Japan and the US

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John L Flaherty
John L Flaherty
Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 2:07am

That’s a pretty cynical take on America on Mr. Schaffer’s part. I can’t help but consider that many parts of the US still remember the 10 Commandments and the Golden Rule.

Ezabelle
Ezabelle
Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 5:01am

Every culture/society is better than the Western Christian civilised culture…until one day it’s not there anymore because you took it for granted…the grass is not always greener

Art Deco
Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 6:12am

Mr. Schaffer is full of it.

MikeS
MikeS
Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 6:46am

Example #833 of how little city dwellers understand small town America.

Art Deco
Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 6:57am

It’s not just that. Those Youtube videos showing feral youths ransacking a convenience store are the subject of horrid fascination because it is so rare. Even in a city, you’re not going to see a half-dozen ordinary people stealing a man’s property as he’s lying there in eyeshot having slipped and fallen. You might see ordinary people stealing what has the appearance of abandoned property. (IIRC, James Q. Wilson and Richard Herrnstein had accounts of social-psychology experiments of what happens when a parked car with its hood propped open is left unattended). As a rule, young people are a problem, slum dwellers are a problem, and crowds are a problem. Ordinary people going about their business are not a problem.

That tiresome fraud, William Ryan (Blaming the Victim) claimed that ordinary people commit serious crimes all the time without being punished. It’s indicative of the mentality of the time that he could make such an utterance without adducing any evidence and without being ridiculed by book reviewers. An aspect of reliving the 1970s will be the appearance of this generation’s William Ryan.

Foxfier
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Wednesday, March 29, AD 2023 1:03pm

In the case of Japan, it’s not exactly culture.

In the 50s and 60s–I’m not sure exactly, the Navy wife that was tehre at the time has since passed so I can’t double check– they had a very bad crime problem.

That is why they have seriously draconian laws.

They recognized a problem, and took steps to correct it; some of the steps they took are not ones that would be acceptable in American culture, such as the assumption that if you pick up someone’s lost wallet, you are guilty of stealing it and will be charged accordingly.

There are places in the US where the inverse experiment was conducted.
The enforcement experiment, that is.
https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1638635929618219008?t=gW440tMJOxnGqPyzq0-Paw&s=19

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