Friday, April 19, AD 2024 6:20pm

Star Trek Lincoln

 

What a charming Negress. Oh, forgive me, my dear. I know that in my time some used that term as a description of property.
But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century we’ve learned not to fear words.

Conversation between Lincoln and Uhura, The Savage Curtain

 

 

 

 

Not fearing words would be a useful lesson for Star Trek to teach our own word obsessed time.  Originally broadcast on March 7, 1969, The Savage Curtain is, like most of the final season of Star Trek, not a fan favorite.   I dissent both as to the episode and the Season.  I found the Third Season to have usually highly imaginative episodes, some swings and misses but mostly solid hits and a few home runs.  This was in the aftermath of the Civil War Centennial and interest in Lincoln was strong.  Actor Lee Bergere gives a  convincing performance as a simulation of Lincoln, capturing the man’s nobility, common sense and, yes, ruthlessness in the service of a just cause.  Bergere passed away in 2007 at 88,

Barry Atwater was superb in the same episode of as Surak, founder of the Vulcan philosophy of pure logic:

 

A nice, and subtle, look at good and evil, evil being personified by the founder of Klingon civilization, Kahless the Unforgettable, Zora of Tiburon, Genghis Khan and Colonel Phillip Green, the leader of eco terrorists in the 21rst century who euthanized hundreds of thousands of irradiated people in the wake of World War III.  (An all too plausible villain for our century.)  Green’s uniform, such is the cheapness of television series, would serve as the uniform, with a white triangle added, for Mork of Mork and Mindy infamy!

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T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 5:28am

In other news, William Shatner/Capt. Kirk is 90 years old.

And, environmentalists are truly evil people. They want to make our lives worse. The environment is simply the excuse.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 6:13am

It is interesting in the Fandom to debate over who Kahless is. After all he seems like a noble and decent chap when cloned back to life in TNG. Was the alien that bad or was it just the beliefs of the starfleet officers who made such an assumption about a foe at the time?

Then again, Klingons are a rowdy and stiff necked people. Their own Abraham Lincoln uniting the empire might seem harsh to us, but on the Klingon scale, was a noble and magnanimous fellow. In the books, Kahless was the guy who gave Klingons their code of honor, making him their equivalent of Surak.

Which means this episode instead of good vs evil could have been a meeting of historical minds to examine the heart and souls of their people.

Fun things to meditate on.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 11:42am

Oh quite. A lot of the Klingon details were begun in the TOS movies then ironed out over the next two series.

Don’t forget the Dominion though. They were pretty evil too.

(Though some of us have had fun with the thought exercise on if the Borg are the logical extremist endpoint of the Federation’s ideals.)

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 12:22pm

Also I like that clip of Spock and Surak. It reminds me of this popular TNG clip:

As MANY have complained about, it’s amazing to go and watch drama as acted by adults, where you can have conflict with soft spoken words instead of DRAMA(tm) all over the screen.

Give me a hundred like that more than….

Ugh. Makes me sick every time.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 12:51pm

This of course was caused by the surrender of territory to the Cardassians who were pretty evil until their conflict with the Dominion. Sometimes watching Star Trek I am reminded of the beginning of Serenity:

Oh I love Serenity (it was my introduction to firefly) and it is entertaining as a rebuttal to the Federation.

Of course Foxfier and I have an ongoing debate about the cardassians as I argue that they are, in fact, the alien species meant to represent the “new soviet man.” A true fascist “species” (“nothing outside the state”, etc) which brings up a lot of interesting questions. I like them as a parable of how even if the new soviet man could be achieved, there would still be plenty of conflict of visions within the state.

And I quite believe that if the radicals had their way, Cardassia on earth is exactly what we’d get.

Foxfier
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Reply to  Nate Winchester
Tuesday, March 23, AD 2021 1:54pm

Soviet Japan.

There’s a REASON that “THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS” is such a popular meme the last few years.

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Wednesday, March 24, AD 2021 8:58am

“Soviet Japan” . . . I like that!

Hm. Guess our debate is over then. Fun times! What should we argue over next?

Foxfier
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Reply to  Nate Winchester
Wednesday, March 24, AD 2021 11:53am

Better to keep chewing it over for a bit, you might find something I missed.

There’s always “Garak: Threat or Menace, both is an acceptable answer.”

Nate Winchester
Nate Winchester
Wednesday, March 24, AD 2021 1:48pm

lol the fun that argument is:

“Garak himself claims he is a threat or menace.
Garak also admits he lies.”

😉

Foxfier
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Reply to  Nate Winchester
Wednesday, March 24, AD 2021 2:03pm

Garak has also bragged about how he’ll tell people not to trust him, and it makes them trust him all the more.
Thus, it is logical to assume that he lies when it will get the effect he wants– which, notably, includes amusement.

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