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It will be interesting to see how Trump does in Illinois Ben. He won’t take the state, but it looks like the Tax Amendment is going down and that should bring out a lot of Trump voters who might not otherwise bother to vote in blue Illinois.
I’m sure there will be a ton of red counties all surrounding a few blue ones mostly in the NE part of the state. I always find the result map by county disturbing…
Sooner or later the State will divide in two and I see that coming for a fair amount of the states.
Struggling Catholic
Sunday, October 25, AD 2020 12:41am
“Sooner or later the State will divide in two and I see that coming for a fair amount of the states”
I certainly see it for Virginia, a state I am familiar with and love. The true Virginians will not put up with rule from Fairfax County, which is filled with government bureaucrats who will never, ever consent to having their power reduced.
West Virginia broke off from Virginia because of the Civil War. I predict rural downstate VA will join with West Virginia, people they have culturally and politically more in common with than the ultra-libs in Northern VA.
Struggling Catholic
Sunday, October 25, AD 2020 12:47am
The cases of IL, NY and CA make me glad I live in WI, because Milwaukee and Madison are not large enough to automatically drag the rest of the state with them. We elect Dems when turnout is poor in the rural parts of the state. When they turn out and vote they are capable of overruling the two most populous counties in WI. That’s not possible when Chicagoland or Manhattan or LA and San Francisco are determined to drag you down with them.
“Milwaukee and Madison are not large enough to automatically drag the rest of the state with them.”
A similar situation exists in Missouri — Dems dominate St Louis and KC but that’s not enough to overcome GOP turnout elsewhere in the state, hence it’s been solidly red in POTUS elections since the early 2000s and solidly red at the state level for about the past decade.
As for IL, I’m old enough to remember when it was a critical swing state that could go either way in a POTUS election. IL went for the GOP candidate in every election from ’68 through ’88 (including Ford in ’76). We also had GOP governors for 26 straight years (1977 to 2003). The population of the City of Chicago was at its peak around 1970 (over 3 million); it’s been shrinking ever since. I don’t think it’s Chicago or Cook County alone that made IL solid blue, but the shift from red to blue in the suburban/collar counties that did it. The ‘burbs, particularly Du Page County, used to be a GOP stronghold from which came well known conservative figures such as Reps. Henry Hyde and Philip Crane.
I still say a Trump upset in IL is remotely possible if Biden fails to get 80% of the vote in Cook County and GOP turnout downstate is significantly higher than usual. That is how our most recent GOP governor, Bruce Rauner, got elected in 2014.
I still say a Trump upset in IL is remotely possible
Agreed Elaine. I have never seen an Illinois politician more hated in my life than Governor Pritzker. Since he is not on the ballot, a vote for Trump is the next best thing as a vote against him.
“Since he is not on the ballot, a vote for Trump is the next best thing as a vote against him”
The same would apply to Gov. Whitmer in Michigan, Gov. Evers in Wisconsin, and maybe even Gov. Cuomo in New York and Gov. Newsom in California. Most governors nowadays are elected in the midterm years.
Excellent point Elaine. A lot of frustration boiling over in regard to Covid restrictions and much of it aimed at governors. Trump wants to open up and with Biden we can see lockdowns into the indefinite future.
T. Shaw
Sunday, October 25, AD 2020 7:31am
He and Brett Kavanaugh showed ‘them’ how to deal with Democrat dirty tricks.
In 2016, I voted Trump b/c he was not corrupt, incompetent Hillary nor a loser establishment GOP quisling. Now, I’d walk through a mine field to vote for Donald John Trump.
NY opened early voting yesterday. All the police (active and retired) I know are voting Trump.
Each evening, my Rosary is offered for the blessing of a divine and miraculous re-election of Donald John Trump.
Before China willfully spread the Wuhan flu [bio warfare or massive election interference?] to us, DJT’s first term was, by most measures, among the most successful in US History.
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That makes two of us for the state of IL Don 😉
It will be interesting to see how Trump does in Illinois Ben. He won’t take the state, but it looks like the Tax Amendment is going down and that should bring out a lot of Trump voters who might not otherwise bother to vote in blue Illinois.
I’m sure there will be a ton of red counties all surrounding a few blue ones mostly in the NE part of the state. I always find the result map by county disturbing…
Sooner or later the State will divide in two and I see that coming for a fair amount of the states.
“Sooner or later the State will divide in two and I see that coming for a fair amount of the states”
I certainly see it for Virginia, a state I am familiar with and love. The true Virginians will not put up with rule from Fairfax County, which is filled with government bureaucrats who will never, ever consent to having their power reduced.
West Virginia broke off from Virginia because of the Civil War. I predict rural downstate VA will join with West Virginia, people they have culturally and politically more in common with than the ultra-libs in Northern VA.
The cases of IL, NY and CA make me glad I live in WI, because Milwaukee and Madison are not large enough to automatically drag the rest of the state with them. We elect Dems when turnout is poor in the rural parts of the state. When they turn out and vote they are capable of overruling the two most populous counties in WI. That’s not possible when Chicagoland or Manhattan or LA and San Francisco are determined to drag you down with them.
“Milwaukee and Madison are not large enough to automatically drag the rest of the state with them.”
A similar situation exists in Missouri — Dems dominate St Louis and KC but that’s not enough to overcome GOP turnout elsewhere in the state, hence it’s been solidly red in POTUS elections since the early 2000s and solidly red at the state level for about the past decade.
As for IL, I’m old enough to remember when it was a critical swing state that could go either way in a POTUS election. IL went for the GOP candidate in every election from ’68 through ’88 (including Ford in ’76). We also had GOP governors for 26 straight years (1977 to 2003). The population of the City of Chicago was at its peak around 1970 (over 3 million); it’s been shrinking ever since. I don’t think it’s Chicago or Cook County alone that made IL solid blue, but the shift from red to blue in the suburban/collar counties that did it. The ‘burbs, particularly Du Page County, used to be a GOP stronghold from which came well known conservative figures such as Reps. Henry Hyde and Philip Crane.
I still say a Trump upset in IL is remotely possible if Biden fails to get 80% of the vote in Cook County and GOP turnout downstate is significantly higher than usual. That is how our most recent GOP governor, Bruce Rauner, got elected in 2014.
I still say a Trump upset in IL is remotely possible
Agreed Elaine. I have never seen an Illinois politician more hated in my life than Governor Pritzker. Since he is not on the ballot, a vote for Trump is the next best thing as a vote against him.
“Since he is not on the ballot, a vote for Trump is the next best thing as a vote against him”
The same would apply to Gov. Whitmer in Michigan, Gov. Evers in Wisconsin, and maybe even Gov. Cuomo in New York and Gov. Newsom in California. Most governors nowadays are elected in the midterm years.
Excellent point Elaine. A lot of frustration boiling over in regard to Covid restrictions and much of it aimed at governors. Trump wants to open up and with Biden we can see lockdowns into the indefinite future.
He and Brett Kavanaugh showed ‘them’ how to deal with Democrat dirty tricks.
In 2016, I voted Trump b/c he was not corrupt, incompetent Hillary nor a loser establishment GOP quisling. Now, I’d walk through a mine field to vote for Donald John Trump.
NY opened early voting yesterday. All the police (active and retired) I know are voting Trump.
Each evening, my Rosary is offered for the blessing of a divine and miraculous re-election of Donald John Trump.
Before China willfully spread the Wuhan flu [bio warfare or massive election interference?] to us, DJT’s first term was, by most measures, among the most successful in US History.