Vote Fraud? What Vote Fraud?

Tuesday, February 14, AD 2017

 

 

Democrats simultaneously deny that there is any vote fraud, and fight all measures to guarantee the security of the ballot from fraud.  Powerline gives us the latest development in a very old game:

 

Democrats hotly deny there is any vote fraud taking place in American elections. Funny that only Democrats seem sensitive about this charge. The asymmetry of outrage suggests something, I think. Once upon a time, Chicago Democrats justified their shenanigans by charging that downstate Illinois Republicans stole votes, too. And maybe they did.

Consider this note from our friend Roger Beckett, executive director of the Ashbrook Center at Ashland University in Ohio:

I received the letter below from the Department of Elections in the State of Delaware. After a couple phone calls to them, I learned that someone registered me to vote (with my correct Date of Birth and Social Security number) on July 12, 2016 in Wilmington, Delaware. As a Democrat. I have never registered to vote in Delaware. I have only ever registered to vote where I live, in Ohio. I checked my credit report, and this is not full-fledged identity theft. It appears to be just some new-fangled election fraud. 

I was asked by the good people in the Delaware Election Commissioner’s office to send a letter to them that they could forward to the Delaware’s Attorney General, which I will do.

Here is the letter, with Roger’s Social Security suffix and address blocked out (by me):

Beckett Registration

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  • How can the Democrats categorically assert no fraud and then simultaneously accuse Trump and the Russians to have colluded in theft of the election from Livia Caesar?

  • Here in New Hampshire, we wondered at how the federal candidates all won with narrow margins while our state office candidates won handily. It seems simple in retrospect that bussed-in non-residents didn’t care about our local contests but just came to put Clinton in the White House and Democrats in the US Congress.

  • After each of my parents died I informed the county Voter Registrar of his and her deaths. Each time I received letters stating that their names had been taken off the rolls.
    Years ago when I was a resident of a small city, all one had to do to vote was state one’s name and address to a poll worker with the voter rolls in plain view. Reading the rolls upside down I could have self identified as any female on the list. The first time I voted there I handed the poll worker my driver’s license. It was thrown back at me with a snarly, “We don’t need that. We trust you at your word”. That city and its county are known for being the last two to report on election night.

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  • Off topic, but I thought Don would appreciate this:

    Some talking head on MSNBC was discussing FBI counter intelligence when he mentioned the “spy catchers” who “have taken down big names like Aldrich Ames and Victor Davis Hanson.”

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/11/05/msnbc-commentator-fbi-spy-catchers-took-down-victor-davis-hanson/

    In all probability, the commentator meant to refer to Robert Phillip Hanssen, a former FBI agent convicted of spying for the former Soviet Union in 2001. Still, I would consider it a backhanded compliment to Don’s favorite historian that when the talking head tried to think of a notable guy with three two-syllable names ending in Hanson or Hanssen, the Notorious VDH was the first name that came to mind!

  • “the “spy catchers” who “have taken down big names like Aldrich Ames and Victor Davis Hanson.” ”

    🙂

  • Exactly Donald. Brilliant clip as you say. Conclusion: white liberals are stupid about blacks. They mouth the party line. If shown this clip they would become angry and claim it was a lie.

  • The incapable helpless black man or woman is a straw man or woman created by unscrupulous Democrats for the purpose of enabling voter fraud. There is a saying that the “Road to Hell is paved with good intentions”. I think that essentially interprets as ends justifying means which is of course wrong.

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Democrats Trying to Win Election in Traditional Manner

Friday, October 7, AD 2016

 

Democrats never change.  News from the Illinois county to my east:

 

 

Voter ID laws are racist. Asking questions about people during the voter registration process is xenophobia. If you reduce early voting periods you’re suppressing minorities. All in all, Democrats know that voter fraud is essentially an illusion created by Republicans in an effort to ensure that only rich white people get to vote. That’s why I’m sure that this story out of the Land of Lincoln can’t possibly be correct. (USA Politics)

The Kankakee County Attorney’s office is investigating at least three cases of voter fraud where people were offered bribes for voting.

In addition, State’s Attorney Jamie Boyd said, “several” vote-by-mail applications have been mailed in from people who live outside the county, The Daily Journal is reporting.

“This unprecedented action was taken in response to reports of individuals from Chicago offering gifts to potential voters in exchange for a vote for Kate Cloonen, Hillary Clinton and others,” Boyd said in the news release. “Our office takes seriously the obligation to protect the rights of citizens to vote for the candidate of their choice, and to do so without undue influence from special interest groups.

There was a time (back in the bad old days) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin when unscrupulous politicians would literally drive around and round up homeless people or those who were simply down on their luck and offer them a few bucks to go register to vote and cast a ballot for the politician looking to make the deal. In some cases it wasn’t even cash, but packs of cigarettes. You’re probably thinking that we’re talking about the Great Depression here (and I’m sure that went on, particularly in New York City) but we’re actually talking about two elections ago.

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  • There is the story`that an election was going poorly for the Democrats by late election day. A boss was asked if he was worried. He responded “No, the outlying cemeteries have not reported yet.”

  • As a general rule, almost everything Democrats say they are for, they are actually against. Conversely, almost everything they say they are against, they are actually for. As an example, honesty is not something they are actually for, except in rare circumstances. Listening to a Democrat in one of those brief moments of honesty reminds me of the scene in the original version of Bedazzled where the devil tells Dudley Moore that everything he’s ever said is a lie, including that. Dudley asks, “Including what?” The devil responds: “Including that everything I’ve ever said is a lie. Believe me.”

  • It’s what they do. what are you prepared to do?

  • It’s all part of the fundamental corruption in the Democrat Party. Free stuff and voter fraud is the beginning and end of their strategy. And since most Democrats pay no taxes it is our “privilege” to make this all possible. It is a better racket that the mafia. Just another reason for Trump’s popularity. And to make matters even worse this is the primary party of the Catholic clergy.

  • The problem now is that the intramural culture of the Democratic Party is such that there is no internal resistance to vote fraud. ACORN types can appear at polling places impersonating people they know from their canvassing have moved, can register fictitious individuals, and can mail in absentee ballots for people they know have moved or who are fictitious. Now we’re facing the problem of hacked and rigged tabulations due to the witless application of technology. Years ago, I read an article in an academic journal by a computer science professor making the case that you cannot improve on paper ballots, but his argument was lost on our technofetishist politicians (who also gave you electronic medical records, another problematic application).

    A dozen years ago, I’d have told you that tabulation fraud of the sort Mark Crispin Miller was writing about was nonsense (and John Kerry thought Miller was hawking nonsense). It would require collusion by hundreds of local elected officials in New York, working across party lines. All this (wholly unnecessary) postal voting makes fraud something you can readily accomplish. And the neuralgic reaction of Democratic pols to voter ID laws (replicated by their seals in comboxes) strongly suggests that such would interfere with the modus operandi of street level activists. The reaction has consisted entirely of status games and the impugning of motives, so you know they’ve been up to no good.

  • I meant to say that ACORN types can undertake the fraud, and the media will ignore it or propagate DNC pr. Rank-and-file Democrats will just say it’s the ‘right wing noise machine’ complaining. The culture of the Democratic Party does not admit of fixed rules of competition and impartial referees. What’s ‘fair’ is what gets us what we want.

  • Oh good grief, you are not kidding! My friends in the nursing homes told me they voted for Obama because the “other guy” would take away their social security. I wish I had enough $ to take out a TV ad “Hey senior citizens, the other guy will NOT take away your social security check!!!!”

    And I thought the citizens of NC “voted” for voter ID but it was squashed. I was just asked to verify what was on the books, but not a single request for identification.

  • A friendly reminder to all that the Republican party is banned from doing anything about voter fraud by a consent decree which was upheld in 2013.

    Yeah, think about that.

  • Interesting is the role played by the renowned Knights of Malta (The Sovereign Military and Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta).

    Lepanto was fought only 16 years after the Knights had victoriously withstood the sultans’ massive, well-armed, well-supplied armies in the Famous Siege of Malta.

    The knights deployed but three galleys in the action, having recently suffered a grave defeat. Those three galleys (oared warships, the Christians had 212 galleys, six galleasses, and 24 large sail transports; the Turks had 250 galleys) were granted the honor due the Knights by being placed at the extreme right of the Christian formation. They were attacked by a squadron of Turks. One Knight’s ship, after a hard fight, was captured and being towed away when it was recovered in a fierce counterattack. Only three Christians/Knights survived and they were senseless from their wounds. Over 300 dead Turks were on board.
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    The Christians won through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary and their skillful courageous aggressiveness.
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    The combination of the victories at Malta and Lepanto spelled the end of the Muslim threat to the central and western Med. Our Lady of Victory, pray for us.

    The knights’ galleys were always well maintained, well-armed, and manned with knights whose vows caused them to fight to the death the infidel wherever and whenever found. Their courage and efficiency were rightly renowned by both Christians and the ever-expansive Turk.
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    Our Lady of the Rosary pray for us.
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    A prayer (I say) before the Rosary. “O Queen of the Holy Rosary, you have deigned to come to Fatima to reveal to the three shepherd children the treasures of grace hidden in the Rosary. Inspire my heart with a sincere love of this devotion, in order that by meditating on the Mysteries of our Redemption which are recalled in it, I may be enriched with its fruits and obtain peace for the World; the conversion of sinners and of America; and the favor which I ask of you in this Rosary. […] I ask it for the greater glory of God; for your own honor and for the good of souls, especially for my own. Amen.”
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    “O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”

  • T. Shaw.

    Right On!

  • Arghhhh This comment was intended to be for the Lepanto post, and Lepanto was 6 years (not 16) after the famous Siege of Malta, which saved all of Europe from the Turk. If Malta fell, then Sicily fell, then the Turk would invade Italy from the north and the south from Sicily, the gateway to Italy.

  • Well, it’s a good comment, anyway, T. Shaw. Thanks very much.

  • The muslim of Turkish decent who shot up the mall in Washington State was not a citizen, but voted in 3 elections.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/29/accused-washington-mall-shooter-voted-in-3-federal-elections-as-non-citizen/

I am Shocked! Shocked! Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Engaging in Vote Fraud in Primaries!

Saturday, May 21, AD 2016

 

Who could possibly have thought, even in his wildest imaginings, that Hillary Clinton, of all people, married to that paragon of rectitude Bill Clinton, would have engaged in vote fraud?

Most infuriating is the Nevada primary, where Hillary Clinton won by only 700 votes. Among the issues reported there were shortages of ballots as well as ballots already pre-printed with Hillary Clinton’s logo. Also, several Clinton supporters were shown on video walking past poll workers while wearing Clinton T-shirts, which is illegal. One of the voters was heard to say that they weren’t registered, but would do so after they voted, which is also not allowed.

Which brings us to Kentucky, where the Attorney General’s office fielded 76 calls to the election fraud hotline. Fox 19 states that the calls came from 31 different counties and included issues with voting machines, illegal electioneering, buying and selling votes, and poll disruption as well as voter registration issues and procedural and legal questions.

Even more concerning are the discrepancies between the exit polls and the actual results of the elections. According to Money Morning, Edison Reporting is responsible for conducting the exit polls, and they are considered to be incredibly accurate as they are conducted at polling stations on the day of the election. This year, the results have been far beyond the expected margin of error in 17 primaries. Of those, nine had a margin of error of greater than 7 percent. In each case, the margin of error was in Clinton’s favor, and the cases with the highest margin were also the cases where the voting machines were over 10-years-old and therefore susceptible to hacking and other forms of tampering.

One should be able to expect his or her commander-in-chief to act within the bounds of the law and with respect to their constituents. Should Hillary win the presidency, if the primaries are any indication, this will not be the case.

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  • Madame Gross Negligence is shocked!(?)

    “Who cares?” Or, “What difference does it make?” Hillary Clinton.

    To see these scummy bottom feeders preying on each other isn’t funny to me, because they are just practicing for the main event when their refined unlawfulness will be commonplace at ballot stations across Amerika. What then?
    Who Cares? What difference does it make?
    These same words will dribble out of the Medusa’s mouth and her heartless soul-less followers will claim Madame Gross Negligence as their above the law Goddess.

    What do I really think of Hillary Clinton?

    Nearly sixty million corpses, rotted and mutilated, with a stench that bleeds through the clouds will reach the throne of God.
    As it does, Hillary Clinton will be called to give testimony. Final testimony.

    After the facts are gathered and denial is no longer a resting place, the woman who asked, “what difference does it make?,” will find her answer…

    The filthy tricks of the left expand the number of future inhabitants of the lake of fire. These tricks will be looked upon as a resource. A roadmap for victory at all cost. Lie. Cheat.
    False testimony. Deceive. Undermine. Sell your soul.

    Hillary Clinton?
    Another minion.
    Another looser with fake countenance.
    Another reason to pray for the conversion of sinners.

  • I think we can see why the Democrats are so very resistant to the idea that
    one should present a photo ID to vote. They maintain that requiring ID
    disenfranchises poor people and amounts to “vote suppression”, but they’ve
    never explained how these off-the-grid poor people with no ID manage to
    apply for government assistance or cash the resulting checks.

  • Seen in the Joke-isphere:

    Hillary: It,s time we had a woman in the Oval Office.

    Bill ( smugly): Been there, done that.

  • The Dems have been dancing with the devil in the form of Marxist reactionaries for years, using them as the foot soldiers in their war against everything traditional and foundational in Western culture. As Machiavelli warned, any mercenaries worth their salt will eventually turn on the Prince that employs them.

    This is that moment for the Dems. The convention will erupt in violence as the foot soldiers turn. They have been given every permission and afforded every excuse over the last few decades for all manner of violent and disruptive behavior, all in the name of advancing the Progressive (Marxist) agenda. They have been trained in the art of revolution.

    Hillary’s normal scummy way of doing business seems to be the spark that will ignite the blaze. And Sanders seems to be piling up all the kindling and firewood he can to make sure the fire burns with the intensity of his Marxist ambitions.

    Buckle up.

  • I’m waiting to see what happens in Philadelphia in the November general election. In 2012, in 57 precincts in that town, Romney did garner one single vote. Oblo got 100 percent. I’m not sure there were even any votes for third, fourth, and so on party candidates. Statistically, I am told, that is a virtual impossibility. The Democrat party has become the Communist party!

How Many Elections Will the Democrats Steal Next Week?

Wednesday, October 29, AD 2014

 

Steven Hayward over at Power Line reminds us of why Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail:  because they benefit from vote fraud:

 

 

How extensive is voter-fraud, especially among non-citizens? Just bring up the question, or suggest we need to have voter-ID at the polls like every other advanced democracy, and the answer will be instantly supplied: You’re a racist. But as Dan McLaughlin points out over at The Federalist, Democrats seem to win a suspiciously high number of close elections, well beyond what a random statistical trial would suggest.

There’s a bombshell academic study out on this issue right now that the media is mostly ignoring (the only exception being the Washington Post’s very fine wonky MonkeyCage blog), in part because it appears in an obscure academic journal, Electoral Studies, that is behind an expensive subscription paywall, and in part because any reporter who does a story about it will be called a racist. Since I’m an academic these days, I’ve got access to the article, “Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?”, by Jesse T. Richman and Gulshan A. Chattha of Old Dominion University and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

The conclusion of the abstract alone ought to set off alarm bells:

We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.

Using data from the Cooperate Congressional Election Study, which sampled 32,000 voters in 2008 and over 50,000 voters in 2010, the authors conclude that as many as 14 percent of non-citizens—potentially as high as 2.8 million—are registered to vote. The authors conclude that a mid-point estimate of 1.2 million non-citizens cast votes in 2008:

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  • Their voting machines notably in Wi and MD are “set” to count GOP votes as Dem votes. And, some dem voters are 125 years old.
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    You know the “fix is in” in WI when Obama showes up to push the commie candidate against Governor Walker. FYI 99% of the voters in that precinct voted for the zero in 2012.
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    Poor, black people have voted Dem for at least 50 years. They are poorer for it.
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    It’s the dawn of the idiotocracy: Scientific detachment and the free exchange of ideas are dead.
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    “A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” – George Bernard Shaw
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    At some point, these and other (judicuial overreach, exec orders, regulations, politicized government agnecies, etc.) deprivations/overrides of Constitutional mechanisms will lead to . . . Of course, cynicism. Conspiracies? Rebellion? I think it’s why they are intent on confiscating the people’s (Second Amendment) arms.

  • What if the Dems remain in control of the Senate and take the House next week? What if the game is already so rigged that nothing can stop it except the very thing none of us want? Personally, being a pessimist, I think the game is already rigged. And we’ll see Hillary in 2016. God have mercy!

  • Paul Primavera said: “Personally being a pessimist, I think the game is already rigged.”

    Isn’t that what “they” want?
    …why even vote then?
    I was having dinner with my eldest brother Sunday evening. He said exactly the same thing as Mr. Primavera.

    Never give up, or better yet never cave into defeatism. If the Liar’s Party gets their bitch into office it might be due to good people throwing their hands up and saying “game over.”

    T. Shaw said in earlier posts days ago; “Stock up on ammo…”

    If it was said in sarcasm or not, the reality is the future of a free America is slipping away. I for one will not sit idle as the traitor’s work feverishly to erode our Constitutional rights.

    Never give up. Never.

  • Philip,

    Just don’t let anybody know you have them.

    I have a sufficient number of .223 cal and 5.56 mm FMJ cartridges to commence a minor insurrection.

    And, it is not merely for a fight for liberty. When the economy and government simultaneously collapse, it will be valuable for both for protection and for barter.

  • I’m currently packing my gear for deer camp. Nov. 15th opener. Many associates have been making it difficult for the consumer to purchase ammo.
    They are hording bricks of ammo.
    It’s not difficult to understand when Homeland Security (oxymoron) has purchased millions of rounds for..wink wink nod nod “target practice.”

    Many Americans are hoping for the best yet preparing for the worse.

    Concealed weapons licenced Americans may be putting the fear of God into liberal traitors…so be it.

  • philip!

    Small world.
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    We go into Adirondack deer camp the morning after Election Day! Northern zone NY is way earlier than southern zone big game opener, November 15.
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    The great escape!

  • There is a different standard of morality operating now for liberal ideologues… the ends justify the means, and if someone in their party gets a little twinge of conscience, he can be brought to his senses knowing that this (questionable) action is not about him but about the ultimate greater good for Humanity. After all they are fighting the Big Evils of the world- defending the helpless: women and (other different genders) all the races, and all the poor and even Mother Earth against the evil conservatives. Truth in elections can be expendable.

  • T. Shaw.

    Good Luck & Good Hunting!

    I live on a peninsula where my great great grand parents made a new home, persecuted by religious indifference. How time is ever changing ever the same.
    Anyway, it’s been a tradition in our clan to gather the boys, young & old, and learn the beauty of silence / woods / hunting. My great grandfather who help to build the first Catholic Church with his dad in the area, St. Josephs, tells the story of walking through the woods on the way to Mass carrying guns to bag a deer for subsistence. They would be successful on the way back home….how providential.

  • We can’t place our ultimate trust in politics or particular people.

    But we still ought to fight like hell to keep Dems. and Rinos OUT.

  • T. Shaw and Philip, you might be interested in the story of how Cornell University tried to solve their deer problem? http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/10/cornell-gives-deer-tubal-ligations-everything-goes-wrong/
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    “Bambi is a rat with long legs and good P.R.”

  • Either “as many as they can get away with” or “Enough.” Perhaps both even.

  • Tamsin-
    I wouldn’t of believed it, but then again it is 2014. The age of sophisticated politically correct hooligans waisting money.
    I’m shocked that they didn’t try to fit condoms on bucks or transport the doe’s to Planned Parenthood for a free abortion.

    The story in your link should of been out of the Onion…unfortunately it’s not.
    Unreal!

    Thanks for the laugh.

  • …btw; free abortion because of Obambicare.

  • Voter fraud is a direct attack on the American way, and on me as an American citizen. Those who commit such crimes should be stripped of their United States citizenship, be deported, and never be allowed back into the United States again.

  • “suggest we need to have voter-ID at the polls like every other advanced democracy…”

    Not in the UK, where we rely on the Electoral Register, compiled annually.

  • James,
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    Far too much “red tape.”

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    With apologies to Shakespeare, First thing we do is kill all the liberals.
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  • If memory serves me correctly, the first time Osama won the office of president, there was an almost state wide late mailing of military absentee ballots to military personnel from Virginia. The county clerks (most of whom were Democrats) of that state did not follow time requirements in the law–thereby making it impossible for military personnel to complete & return the ballots to VA for proper counting. Basically, their votes were simply not counted b/c of arriving to late to their home precincts to be counted. It was in the news at the time & was never addressed in any proper or legal manner. IMHO the county clerks should have been criminally charged –however WE KNOW prosecutors would not do that. Then folks were amazed that Osama won the state of VA. Well, duh! Osama would not have won that race without states like VA. And the state was stolen.

    There have been so many different types of election fraud in my home state that I could write a book about it.

Revelations from a Twitter Exchange

Friday, August 17, AD 2012

It has always been incomprehensible to me that we don’t require photo identification for voting. The idea that you can just go up to an election official, simply state your name, and then receive your ballot is mind boggling. We require identification for so many other important functions, yet we’re basically leaving it up to the honor system when it comes to voting. It’s simply a matter of fairness. It’s bad enough that my vote gets cancelled out by idiots – you know, people like Joe Biden – but it is even more unfair to have it cancelled out by someone who does not have a legal right to vote in that particular election. Requiring identification certainly wouldn’t eliminate all incidents of voter fraud, but they would go a long way in ensuring that everyone who votes has a legal right to do so.

Well, the major argument against these laws is that we are somehow disenfranchising people. This is utter nonsense. No one who has a legal right to vote would be barred from voting because of a photo i.d. law. Sure, there are people who do not possess photo identification, particularly the elderly. How they function without identification is a mystery to me, but most of the proposed laws have provisions to help these people get identification.

Yet that is not how some people on the left claim to see it. To them, evil Republicans just want to make sure the poor and the elderly are forced to stay home on election day. Today I had a twitter exchange that typified the attitude of many anti-i.d. folks. It hammered home a few things about their attitude that is frankly quite scary.

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  • Well, yeah. The amazing thing is how much support the laws have, as Byron York pointed out on Wednesday.

  • Honestly, I just think it comes down to common sense, Pauli.

  • So the very government that they want implementing Obamacare which is magnitudes greater in complexity, they believe is incompetent to issue photo id. What happen to their unshakable belief in the power of the state to make all things right and just?

  • It is now standard procedure to ask people to produce ID as well as an insurance card at hospitals and doctor’s offices (of course, they’ll make an exception if you show up at the ER bleeding, but it is required for all non-emergent procedures). The Catholic hospital I work at does a lot of charity care, but the ID requirement is enforced. So those poor and elderly people I pass in the hallways every day showed ID at the registration desk.

    Similiarly, I was carded when I bought a bottle of wine the other day, although I don’t flatter myself that I look like I’m under 21. Liquor stores abound in the inner cities. Do they not card poor people?

    Honestly, I don’t believe the issue is whether or not the poor have ID. Unless you are living completely off the grid, you MUST have ID in today’s world. Of course they have it.

    No, what the Left is objecting to is having to PRODUCE ID at a polling place. Because it interferes with voter fraud and voter fraud favors Democrats. That is the only reason to oppose voter ID.

    Voter ID at the polls still doesn’t solve the issue of the dearly departed voting. Our first Republican president is buried in Illinois. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to learn that Honest Abe has been a faithful Democrat voter at least Boss Daley’s time.

  • Similiarly, I was carded when I bought a bottle of wine the other day, although I don’t flatter myself that I look like I’m under 21. Liquor stores abound in the inner cities. Do they not card poor people?

    A lot of places say they card anyone who looks under 40….and I’m only nearly 30… and still don’t get carded.
    That said, I’ve got a three year old in the cart, a toddling baby on my hip, look like I haven’t slept in a few days and am buying a cheap box of wine or a bottle of Jaeger and/or Fireball. Not exactly “teen sneaking in to drink” material.

  • “What this told me is that this guy was walking around with a driver’s licence, a social security card, and a birth certificate, because he was waiting to obtain these documents.”

    I have a driver’s license which I always carry with me, and a Social Security card which is kept in a fireproof box at home. (It’s my understanding that you SHOULD NOT carry around your Social Security card routinely due to the risk of loss and subsequent identity theft.) I do not, however, currently have a birth certificate because I’ve never yet been asked to produce one for myself; but I know how to obtain one — contact the county clerk’s office in the county where I was born and request a certified copy. There is a fee for this service, might be as much as $10, but if someone were desperately poor and couldn’t afford the fee I’d think one of these organizations would help pay it for them.

  • It is apparent to me why the Democrats do not want a photo ID requirement for voting. If you want to initiate a seismic shift from the current representative republic form of US government towards a communist state, the last thing you want is a photo ID requirement for voting. You stack the deck with illegal voters whom you promise everything to (for now) and then when the tide turned, poof! Instant banana republic. Can you say “President Daniel Ortega”?

  • Sorry, that should read “without a driver’s license . . . “

  • I didn’t have a copy of my birth certificate. It took me about a month to get one. I haven’t had a Social Security card in years. It’s a pain to get government forms, and I can sympathize with the idea that some people won’t register to vote because of the effort.

    In theory, the anti voter ID people have a point. I’ve been involved in voter registration drives. They’d shock you. The default assumption that most of us live our lives with, that other people are sufficiently competent to take care of themselves, goes out the window. Should these people have the vote? Well, that’s a toughie. I don’t know how I’d answer that other than to say that I haven’t participated in a voter registration drive in a long time.

    And if someone registers and doesn’t vote, there’s no harm in that, according to their argument. But that assumes that excess names on the lists won’t lead to voter fraud. The two things that the voter ID side has to demonstrate are that voter fraud is a real problem, and that they’re not racists. The beauty of the other side’s position is that, if you argue that voter fraud is a problem, that automatically makes you a racist. It’s a Catch-22.

  • The same logic goes for illegal immigration. If the Left thought that those folks were Rush Limbaugh dittoheads they would be planting mines at the border. The problem is getting more urgent because the Left is increasingly arrogant (and fearful) so they are going to try for more wholesale fraud in future elections. I think where they are headed is mandatory voting on the reasonable theory that the stay at homes are more Dem supporting than Repub. The increasing window to vote ahead of time is a major step in that direction. A bit more attention and energy from the Repubs to combat it would be welcome but I am not holding my breath. They are probably more scared of the Tea Party.

  • ID’s with pictures at the voting places would be good for what’s become of this nation in the area of virtue and logic.

    Wondering how absentee ballots are monitored and whether they are proliferating.

    Without showing a picture identification issued by state or federal gov. at the table with the lists and ballots, there are no guarantees of honesty.

    Do the new batches of aliens get ID’s? How are they identified as ‘illegal’?

    Then comes the question of by whom and how the ID’s would be produced. Could the money granted to community organizers be better spent on this as project?