Thanksgiving Proclamation: 1864

Thursday, November 27, AD 2014

By the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation

 

It has pleased Almighty God to prolong our national life another year, defending us with His guardian care against unfriendly designs from abroad and vouchsafing to us in His mercy many and signal victories over the enemy, who is of our own household. It has also pleased our Heavenly Father to favor as well our citizens in their homes as our soldiers in their camps and our sailors on the rivers and seas with unusual health. He has largely augmented our free population by emancipation and by immigration, while He has opened to us new sources of wealth and has crowned the labor of our workingmen in every department of industry with abundant rewards. Moreover, He has been pleased to animate and inspire our minds and hearts with fortitude, courage, and resolution sufficient for the great trial of civil war into which we have been brought by our adherence as a nation to the cause of freedom and humanity, and to afford to us reasonable hopes of an ultimate and happy deliverance from all our dangers and afflictions:

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5 Responses to Thanksgiving Proclamation: 1864

  • Tsk, tsk…we cannot have something like this which is so discriminatory towards our atheist comrades.

    Please refrain from publishing such intentionally divisive rhetoric.

    Otherwise, have a contented last Thursday in November.

  • So, WHO do the atheists thank for making the seed germinate and the rain, rain and the sun shine and WHO do the atheists thank for there being seeds that germinate, and the rain that rains and the sun that shines?
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    There was an editorial by, his name was Reva Aslan, I remember, because Aslan was one of C.S. Lewis’ heroes in the Narnia Chronicles. Aslan separated the good atheists from the bad and religiously discriminatory “anti-theists”, those who would destroy the sovereign person’s freedom of religion and belief in God in their choice of free will to believe in God.
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    It made sense up to a point and that point being that as long as atheism is legalized, codified, as a constitutional form of religion, atheism unfounds the founding principles of all freedom, the sovereignty of the American citizen and of the human beings’ soul with his endowed unalienable human rights.
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    The atheist must be tolerated. Atheism is patently unconstitutional. Atheism and freedom of Religion, all freedom and man’s immortal human soul in eternal life cannot be countenanced or forborne.
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    The editorial tried to separate the privately held beliefs of the atheist and the militant anti-theist, except that it was Madalyn Murray O’Hair, the atheist who removed freedom from the public square, the public domain. Yes, Madalyn Murray O’Hair was an atheist and was militantly anti-theist. How does the editor deliver freedom to all Americans when that atheist and the anti-theist violate the very concept of free will from the constitution?

  • Rewrite: “Atheism, as freedom of religion as opposed to constitutional freedom of Religion, all constitutional freedoms and man’s immortal human soul in eternal life cannot be countenanced or forborne.”
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    Atheism is a belief. A belief is not religion. A belief that the world is flat and that man has no soul or that man’s soul has no endowed unalienable human and civil rights of free will and sovereign personhood to discipline himself and remain an innocent citizen, that man is a best of burden to the state, that the state is the grantor of all human rights, when, in fact, the state is constituted by men to guarantee all God-given human rights and freedoms. Without the acknowledgment of almighty God as Creator and endower of all human rights, Truth and Justice will not flourish and “might then makes right”,the greed for power and illegitimate authority ride with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Death, War, Hunger and Pestilence reign supreme.
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    Religion is man’s worship of God in thought, word and deed. Religion is man’s relationship with our almighty Creator and Redeemer and the Love Who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
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    … “or prohibit the free exercise thereof”…
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    The Supreme Court does not have legitimate authority to define what is a “burden to the free exercise of religion” as it has in the past. The burden to “the free exercise of religion” is defined and exercised by the free citizen, the American citizen, the sovereign person in his personal relationship with God. Our relationship with God does not allow for the state to intrude into a personal relationship with God without our personal consent, no more than the state has power to intrude into any love affair or personal relationship. It is non of their business. period.

  • We are in for a rough ride in this country.

  • Assassinating the character of the newly begotten sovereign person by framing him as an invader, a parasite causing the death of the mother and the unwanted pregnancy, Roe v. Wade made a right of privacy to abort and kill the invader, the parasite, the unwanted pregnancy.

    Science has proved that the new individual cell has its own DNA. Metaphysics tells us that the new sovereign person has an immortal human soul endowed with free will, intellect, sovereign personhood, all unalienable human rights and the promise of eternal life.
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    The conjugal act invites the new life, the new individual person, a party to our constitutional posterity. The word “invite” means to offer life to another person. The man and the woman exercise the power of their sex to invite another person into life. When the unborn child is conceived, the parents become a mother and a father. As parents, the father and the mother must host their child, the testimony to and the evidence of their love.

The Pilgrims and Socialism

Thursday, November 27, AD 2014

 

 

 

From  Of Plymouth Plantation, by Governor William Bradford:

All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery. At length, after much debate of things, the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other things to go on in the general way as before. And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance) and ranged all boys and youth under some family. This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.

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  • The history of “property rights” ought and must be repeated again and again…ad infinitum.

  • Socialism will work this time. My socialism professor said so.

  • “And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance)”

    This recalls a distinction drawn in Scots law between the “dominium utile” or ownership of the use and the “dominium directum” or ownership of the land itself.

    Feus were originally granted for life only, which explains the casulty of relief, payable by the heir or singular successor, when he was entered with the superior, for originally he had no right to the feu, unless the superior granted it to him of new.

  • The will to survive in the sovereign person enables him to work miracles, In the Soviet Union when state collective farms were established production fell to a point where the farmers could not feed themselves. The Soviet Union allowed the farmers to own the produce of seven feet around their house foundation. 70% of the farm produce was grown on their seven feet of earth. It exemplifies that acknowledging the freedom of the human person will result in success of whatever job they assume.
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    Working for another without recompense or as a nameless cog in the engine of another’s prosperity is doomed to failure unless the individual wills to give the other his initiative.
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    Communism is doomed to failure because communism rejects the individual human person in favor of the group, the communist party. A group, a communist party cannot be sovereign unless the party counts the sovereignty of every member.

  • T. Shaw: “Socialism will work this time. My socialism professor said so.”
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    I cannot go over Cooch’s Bridge without remembering that you told me about it.T. Shaw. Today, I went over the bridge three times. It would have been four but someone had flattened a polecat on Rt. 72.

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour: ““And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance)””
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    Today, we have, in America, the Homestead Act. To build or improve any parcel of public land within five years will allow the person who improved the land to purchase the land for a miniscule amount of money like $5 per acre.

  • “Communism is doomed to failure because communism rejects the individual human person in favor of the group, the communist party. A group, a communist party cannot be sovereign unless the party counts the sovereignty of every member.”
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    The God Who gave the sovereign individual personhood can and does give the party, the group sovereignty as well, but only under the same laws as govern the sovereignty of the individual and through the sovereignty of the individual. The state is constituted as a group by citizens to serve the individual as stated in the Preamble of our Constitution.

  • The will to survive, the human will to live becomes the state guarded right to life. Man’s natural will to survive is the natural human right to life.
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    The atheist through atheism refuses to accept, that is, to believe in the reality of the human soul. Atheism refuses to acknowledge “their Creator” of The Declaration of Independence. Atheism denies the immortality of the immortal human soul, the endowed gifts of free will, intellect, sovereign personhood and the promise of eternal life. What else is there for the atheist to believe in except turning his neighbor into a beast of burden to be treated with scorn for having belief in life, free will and freedom?
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    Every newly begotten soul, a new posterity, brings with his immortal human soul the promise of eternal life. A promise atheism rejects and refuses to honor among men.
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    The will to survive begets the will to have the neighbor survive. Man’s will to have the neighbor survive constitutes the state.

  • Mary de Voe wrote, “Today, we have, in America, the Homestead Act. To build or improve any parcel of public land within five years will allow the person who improved the land to purchase the land for a miniscule amount of money like $5 per acre.”
    An excellent system.
    In ancient Rome, a similar system – the Lex Sempronia Agraria – was proposed by the Tribune, Tiberius Gracchus in 133 BC. He proposed any landless citizen could acquire 30 jugera (about 300 acres) of the public land in this way, which would have provided many of the urban masses with a livelihood, increased corn production and also rendered them liable to military service. Many scholars believe that, if adopted, it would have saved the Republic.
    One of his supporters was the jurist, Scævola, many of whose opinions can be found in the Digest of Justinian, from which they have passed into most modern Civil Codes.

Remembrance of Turkeys Past

Wednesday, November 26, AD 2014

As we prepare for Thanksgiving tomorrow, and as we recall our blessings and thank God for each and every one, let us also remember the humble turkey and the various disasters that result when that proud bird is not treated with the care that it deserves, dead or alive.    Oldtimers like myself will recognize the above video as part of the famous “Turkey Drop” episode from WKRP, a sitcom from the Seventies.

 

Of course Turkey Disasters are not, unfortunately, restricted to the realm of fiction.    Deep frying a turkey poses various risks.

Here we have a case of the flaming avian:

 

 

William Shatner warns of the dangers of deep frying turkeys:

 

Of course there are those among us who revel in the destructive possibilities of cooking turkey.

If deep fry a turkey you must, follow these tips:

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  • “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”
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    The second best line ever delivered on a TV show, just behind Carol Burnett’s “Thank you, I saw it in the window and I just couldn’t resist it.”
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    Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

  • Dn

    “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”

    The president commenting on Obamacare.

    Happy thnaks giving to you and yours.

    Hank

Franksgiving

Tuesday, November 25, AD 2014

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Americans used to have the quaint custom of not putting out Christmas decorations until after Thanksgiving. That custom seemed to bode ill for the American economy in 1939 with Thanksgiving falling on November 30. President Lincoln had established the custom of Americans nationally thanking God for His blessings on the last Thursday in November. Now another president was going to make a change in this custom.

1939 was a lackluster year for the American economy, and President Roosevelt made the decision in August that Thanksgiving would be celebrated on the fourth Thursday instead, November 23. Polls indicated that a majority of the American people opposed the change with Republicans most opposed.

Twenty three states used the new date, twenty two states used the old date, and three states had holidays on both dates. The confusion this caused was fodder for comedians with Curly in a Three Stooges short No Census, No Feeling, remarks on the Fourth of July being in October. When Moe is incredulous, Curly responds, “You never can tell. Look what they did to Thanksgiving!”

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  • FDR’s turkey has a buttondown collar.

  • “Americans used to have the quaint custom of not putting out Christmas decorations until after Thanksgiving”

    In France, when I was young I recall old people complaining that Christmas decorations should not go up until O Sapientia (18th December, so called because it is the day on which the first of the O Antiphons are sung at Vespers)

  • Of course, nowadays by Thanksgiving the Christmas decorations have been up so long they’ve got dust on them. I remember when the Christmas shopping season didn’t start until the day after Thanksgiving. Then it started drifting backwards. Interestingly, for a while it began before Halloween, but Halloween has become so commercially successful that it pushed the beginning of the Christmas season back to November 1st.

    It does interest me that the source of our secular holidays is still primarily Catholicism. Valentine’s Day (remember when it was St. Valentine’s Day?), St. Patrick’s Day, Halloween (indirectly); they’re all big secular money-makers. My bet, Mardi Gras is next.

  • I absolutely love Thamksgiving through Epiphany. The only “lump of coal” in my happiness in the season is that they call what could be a fun family day “black Friday”. I know they are talking about making money and getting in the black–but what a downer of a name!

Confederate Thanksgiving

Tuesday, November 25, AD 2014

 

 

 

Once more upon the plains of Manassas have our armies been blessed by the Lord of Hosts with a triumph over our enemies. It is my privilege to invite you once more to His footstool, not now in the garb of fasting and sorrow, but with joy and gladness, to render thanks for the great mercies received at His hand. A few months since, and our enemies poured forth their invading legions upon our soil. They laid waste our fields, polluted our altars and violated the sanctity of our homes. Around our capital they gathered their forces, and with boastful threats, claimed it as already their prize. The brave troops which rallied to its defense have extinguished these vain hopes, and, under the guidance of the same almighty hand, have scattered our enemies and driven them back in dismay. Uniting these defeated forces and the various armies which had been ravaging our coasts with the army of invasion in Northern Virginia, our enemies have renewed their attempt to subjugate us at the very place where their first effort was defeated, and the vengeance of retributive justice has overtaken the entire host in a second and complete overthrow.

To this signal success accorded to our arms in the East has been graciously added another equally brilliant in the West. On the very day on which our forces were led to victory on the Plains of Manassas, in Virginia, the same Almighty arm assisted us to overcome our enemies at Richmond, in Kentucky. Thus, at one and the same time, have two great hostile armies been stricken down, and the wicked designs of their armies been set at naught.

In such circumstances, it is meet and right that, as a people, we should bow down in adoring thankfulness to that gracious God who has been our bulwark and defense, and to offer unto him the tribute of thanksgiving and praise. In his hand is the issue of all events, and to him should we, in an especial manner, ascribe the honor of this great deliverance.

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11 Responses to Confederate Thanksgiving

  • How dare he drag God into the bloodguilt of slavery. He is badly mistaken, having deluded himself.

  • Mary, when looking at History, if one really wishes to understand it, an ability to put oneself into the shoes of historical figures is essential. Davis was no monster. As slave masters went he was quite enlightened, with his slaves running his plantation and largely governing themselves. He believed that Christianity and education would one day end slavery. He and his wife during the War took in an orphaned black boy and had him freed from slavery. Davis was not a stick villain figure in an historical melodrama but a complicated man living in complicated times. I find slavery the ultimate betrayal of American ideals, hence my admiration for Lincoln and my great joy that the Union prevailed. However, that does not make me blind to the virtues of those who thought otherwise, and it does not prevent me from letting them have their say and stating their views in my posts on historical subjects.

  • “Davis was no monster. As slave masters went he was quite enlightened, with his slaves running his plantation and largely governing themselves. He believed that Christianity and education would one day end slavery. He and his wife during the War took in an orphaned black boy and had him freed from slavery. Davis was not a stick villain figure in an historical melodrama but a complicated man living in complicated times.”

    Real life/people is/are rarely simply black or white.

  • Donald: I appreciate your understanding of Davis and his place in history. I learn much and enjoy your sharing your knowledge of history. I really do. So, it is with much grief that I must disagree with you.
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    Davis called the North “enemies” and to me this means he had no love for our principles. Davis shortchanged himself and perhaps freeing a Negro boy made him feel the better. Most of our Founding Fathers treated their slaves as free men working in their manors. It is humanity.
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    Davis’ problem is that he tried to perpetuate unjust laws. Calling upon God to validate his position showed to me his (Davis’) absence of Justice.

  • “He believed that Christianity and education would one day end slavery.”
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    Davis calls upon almighty God, but nowhere do I read about Jesus Christ. The Civil War begot the Emancipation Proclamation, already inscribed in The Declaration of Independence, already proclaimed in the Gospels of Jesus Christ.
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    Show to me where Davis invokes Jesus Christ and Christianity and I will grant to you the argument.

  • Jefferson Davis’s great error is encapsulated in the sentence “In such circumstances, it is meet and right that, as a people, we should bow down in adoring thankfulness to that gracious God who has been our bulwark and defense, and to offer unto him the tribute of thanksgiving and praise.“. As the events of 1865 would show, this was presumptuous. God ultimately was not the bulwark and defense of the Confederates. All of us, all the time, should remember this as we go about our daily lives and consider the wider events of our day, because without a proper moral formation we too can easily presume that God’s aid to us is God’s validation of us, sins and all.

  • The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South. Lincoln did it for political purposes. Slavery did not end until the 13th Amendment was ratified. General Grant did not free his slaves until 1866. Many free blacks fought willingly in the Confederate Army. The cult of Lincoln as savior must end. Check out the articles on http://www.southernheritage411.com. The website is run by H.K. Edgarton who is a former regional NAACP president. Here are a few articles.

    http://www.southernheritage411.com/truehistory.php?th=011

    http://www.southernheritage411.com/truehistory.php?th=003

    http://www.southernheritage411.com/bc.php?nw=071

    http://www.southernheritage411.com/truehistory.php?th=080

    http://www.southernheritage411.com/truehistory.php?th=070

  • Lincoln made clear that he freed the slaves as a war act. He lacked the power to do so otherwise, hence the Emancipation Proclamation could only have applied to areas controlled by the Confederacy. He also made it clear that he did so in order to save the Union. However, to pretend that Lincoln did not also hate slavery and sought to have it abolished is ludicrous, as Lincoln’s pushing the Thirteenth Amendment through Congress indicates.
    The handful of blacks who may have fought for the Confederacy are dwarfed by their 188,000 brothers who fought in the Union Army and Navy. The Confederacy did not get around to allowing blacks to fight in the Confederate Army until weeks before the Confederate surrender. The attempt to whitewash the history of the Confederacy to suit twenty-first century racial sensibilities is risible.

  • Thank you Donald McClarey for responding to this revisionist history denying to Abraham Lincoln his good will. Lincoln did everything in his power to free all men. Davis did all in his power to keep slavery a way of life. Refusing to give credit where credit is due is not history.

  • Mr. McClarey, let me reassure you that not everyone in the South ascribes anymore to the “Lost Cause” theory of history. The Civil War was probably a necessary war. We don’t care for John Wilkes Booth or his assassination of President Lincoln. We view the killing of 280,000 Confederate soldiers as a tragedy. They were fighting on the wrong side of history, but they’re still our boys.

  • I view them as just as much my boys Mico as the Union soldiers who died. I celebrate their courage against the odds:

    https://almostchosenpeople.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/in-defense-of-those-who-wore-the-gray/

November 24, 1864: Thanksgiving for the Troops

Monday, November 24, AD 2014

In 1864 the Union League decided to raise a fund to supply Thanksgiving dinner on November 24, 1864 for the Union soldiers and sailors fighting in the East.  The reaction of the Northern public to this plan was overwhelming.  over $56,000 in cash was raised, an enormous sum at the time, 250,000 pounds of fowl, and enormous contributions of foodstuffs of every type.  The Union soldiers and sailors loved their feast and the reminder that they had not been forgotten by the folks back home.  For Confederate soldiers, on starvation rations, there was of course no feast, a fact underlining the overwhelming tragedy of the Civil War.  Here is the Union League appeal which was printed in the New York Times on November 8, 1864.  Note that  Theodore Roosevelt, the father of the future president of the same name, is the Treasurer:

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Soldiers In Greasepaint

Friday, November 29, AD 2013

Bob Hope’s NBC radio special “Soldiers in Greasepaint” broadcast on Thanksgiving Day, November 25, 1943.  A salute to millions of brave Americans who were spending Thanksgiving a long way from home seven decades ago.

By the time of World War II Hope was 38 and too old to likely be assigned to a combat area.  He got around that by spending much of his time during the War entertaining troops in combat zones, occasionally coming under fire.  Hope’s genius as a comedian was a rare gift;  a willingness to spend it entertaining American troops was a worthy way of using that gift.

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2 Responses to Soldiers In Greasepaint

  • Thanks for these. What a loving, giving man Bob Hope was!

    Why are you accepting ads from, and promoting, on this otherwise fabulous website, the pro-abortion companies Hilton Hotels (which donates to Planned Parenthood) and from General Mills, which donates a minimum of $1million per year to Susan G Komen Race for the Cure – which we all know donates millions to Planned Parenthood?

  • These are google ads. We have no control over them. The ads that show up are based on searches from the computer that logs in to the site. I make zero from any ad revenue, the revenue being used solely to maintain the site. Any further questions should be directed to Tito since I have absolutely no involvement with the ads that appear on TAC.

Thanksgiving For Small Blessings

Thursday, November 28, AD 2013

 

 

 

Each Thanksgiving I say grace for my family and thank God for His major blessings in our life, but what about the small blessings?  Here I make up for the lack:

1.    That William Shatner has not directed another Star Trek film.

2.    That the Pope has not yet condemned blogging as a complete waste of time.

3.    That I have never tasted tofu turkey.

4.    That President Obama did not attempt to do for car insurance what he has done for health insurance.

5.    That my bride likes my snoring.

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Lincoln and the Creation of Thanksgiving

Thursday, November 28, AD 2013

In the midst of this, however, He, from Whom all blessings flow, must not be forgotten. A call for a national thanksgiving is being prepared, and will be duly promulgated.

Abraham Lincoln, from his last public address, April 11, 1865

Abraham Lincoln frequently throughout the Civil War called for Thanksgiving for Union victories and for prayers and repentance for national sins.  The idea however of an annual Thanksgiving did not spring from him but from Sarah Josepha Hale, a noted literary figure who, among other accomplishments wrote the child’s poem Mary Had a Little Lamb.  Born in 1788, for years she had led a movement for a national day of Thanksgiving to be observed annually.

Sir.–

Permit me, as Editress of the “Lady’s Book”, to request a few minutes of your precious time, while laying before you a subject of deep interest to myself and — as I trust — even to the President of our Republic, of some importance. This subject is to have the day of our annual Thanksgiving made a National and fixed Union Festival.

You may have observed that, for some years past, there has been an increasing interest felt in our land to have the Thanksgiving held on the same day, in all the States; it now needs National recognition and authoritive fixation, only, to become permanently, an American custom and institution.

Enclosed are three papers (being printed these are easily read) which will make the idea and its progress clear and show also the popularity of the plan.

For the last fifteen years I have set forth this idea in the “Lady’s Book”, and placed the papers before the Governors of all the States and Territories — also I have sent these to our Ministers abroad, and our Missionaries to the heathen — and commanders in the Navy. From the recipients I have received, uniformly the most kind approval. Two of these letters, one from Governor (now General) Banks and one from Governor Morgan are enclosed; both gentlemen as you will see, have nobly aided to bring about the desired Thanksgiving Union.

But I find there are obstacles not possible to be overcome without legislative aid — that each State should, by statute, make it obligatory on the Governor to appoint the last Thursday of November, annually, as Thanksgiving Day; — or, as this way would require years to be realized, it has ocurred to me that a proclamation from the President of the United States would be the best, surest and most fitting method of National appointment.

I have written to my friend, Hon. Wm. H. Seward, and requested him to confer with President Lincoln on this subject As the President of the United States has the power of appointments for the District of Columbia and the Territories; also for the Army and Navy and all American citizens abroad who claim protection from the U. S. Flag — could he not, with right as well as duty, issue his proclamation for a Day of National Thanksgiving for all the above classes of persons? And would it not be fitting and

patriotic for him to appeal to the Governors of all the States, inviting and commending these to unite in issuing proclamations for the last Thursday in November as the Day of Thanksgiving for the people of each State? Thus the great Union Festival of America would be established.

Now the purpose of this letter is to entreat President Lincoln to put forth his Proclamation, appointing the last Thursday in November (which falls this year on the 26th) as the National Thanksgiving for all those classes of people who are under the National Government particularly, and commending this Union Thanksgiving to each State Executive: thus, by the noble example and action of the President of the United States, the permanency and unity of our Great American Festival of Thanksgiving would be forever secured.

An immediate proclamation would be necessary, so as to reach all the States in season for State appointments, also to anticipate the early appointments by Governors.

Excuse the liberty I have taken

With profound respect

Yrs truly

Sarah Josepha Hale,

Editress of the “Ladys Book”

There is no evidence that Lincoln’s Thanksgiving Proclamation was issued in response to this letter, but it is probable.  Here is the proclamation on October 3, 1863 by President Lincoln that established Thanksgiving as an annual event:

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Thanksgiving Day Lesson: Socialism Never Works

Thursday, November 28, AD 2013

 

 

 

From  Of Plymouth Plantation, by Governor William Bradford:

All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery. At length, after much debate of things, the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other things to go on in the general way as before. And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance) and ranged all boys and youth under some family. This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.

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6 Responses to Thanksgiving Day Lesson: Socialism Never Works

  • Every human relationship without God breeds contempt. The individual forms the community; the community must provide for the individual. Unless the community provides for the individual, the community will become a prison. The acknowledgement of property rights was and is a public acknowledgement of fundamental human rights.

  • Someone seems to have conveniently forgotten that the central tenet of Jesus’s teachings were socialistic.

  • Someone seems to be unable to read the Gospels without red colored specs. They have about as much to do with socialism as they do with interior design. Holding goods in common was a stupidity that some of the early Christians came up with on their own and abandoned, outside of monasteries, quite quickly because it didn’t work, as it always does not work. Saint Paul and his admonition that those who do not work should not eat is an indication just how quickly the experiment in common goods came to a screeching end.

    Pope Leo XIII in his great encyclical against socialism put paid to the attempt by socialists to appropriate Christ for their cause:

    “For, indeed, although the socialists, stealing the very Gospel itself with a view to deceive more easily the unwary, have been accustomed to distort it so as to suit their own purposes, nevertheless so great is the difference between their depraved teachings and the most pure doctrine of Christ that none greater could exist: “for what participation hath justice with injustice or what fellowship hath light with darkness?”7 Their habit, as we have intimated, is always to maintain that nature has made all men equal, and that, therefore, neither honor nor respect is due to majesty, nor obedience to laws, unless, perhaps, to those sanctioned by their own good pleasure. But, on the contrary, in accordance with the teachings of the Gospel, the equality of men consists in this: that all, having inherited the same nature, are called to the same most high dignity of the sons of God, and that, as one and the same end is set before all, each one is to be judged by the same law and will receive punishment or reward according to his deserts. The inequality of rights and of power proceeds from the very Author of nature, “from whom all paternity in heaven and earth is named.”8 But the minds of princes and their subjects are, according to Catholic doctrine and precepts, bound up one with the other in such a manner, by mutual duties and rights, that the thirst for power is restrained and the rational ground of obedience made easy, firm, and noble.”

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/L13APOST.HTM

  • Socialism cannot work. Socialism abandons the dignity of the human person who constitutes government and worships the herd, the group, the government. Government so distorted cannot function as servant of the people as it imposes its own agenda to survive without its constituents.

  • “Someone seems to be unable to read the Gospels without red colored specs. They have about as much to do with socialism as they do with interior design.”
    The dignity of the person invokes the virtue of charity. Involuntary charity, that virtue defined by someone else, denies free will, the dignity of the sovereign person and is extortion.

  • No! I am Spartacus!

Thanksgiving Proclamation: 1789

Wednesday, November 27, AD 2013

Throughout the American Revolution Congress had set aside days of Thanksgiving to God for American victories.  After the surrender of Burgoyne in 1777 Congress authorized General Washington to proclaim a national day of Thanksgiving, which he did, designating it to be observed on December 18, 1777.  Thus, President Washington readily agreed when the new federal Congress authorized him to issue a Thanksgiving Proclamation, establishing the first American Thanksgiving to be held on the last Thursday in November.  Washington observed the day by attending church at Saint Paul Chapel and donating beer and food to imprisoned debtors in New York City.  Here is the text of the proclamation:

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Remembrance of Turkeys Past

Wednesday, November 27, AD 2013

As we prepare for Thanksgiving tomorrow, and as we recall our blessings and thank God for each and every one, let us also remember the humble turkey and the various disasters that result when that proud bird is not treated with the care that it deserves, dead or alive.    Oldtimers like myself will recognize the above video as part of the famous “Turkey Drop” episode from WKRP, a sitcom from the Seventies.

 

Of course Turkey Disasters are not, unfortunately, restricted to the realm of fiction.    Deep frying a turkey poses various risks.

Here we have a case of the flaming avian:

 

 

William Shatner warns of the dangers of deep frying turkeys:

 

Of course there are those among us who revel in the destructive possibilities of cooking turkey.

If deep fry a turkey you must, follow these tips:

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One More Thing to Thank God For This Thursday

Tuesday, November 26, AD 2013

 

 

Michael Totten reminds us why we might wish to thank God this Thursday that we were not born in Cuba:

Private Internet is banned. You can only get online in hotels, Internet cafes, and government offices. Regular citizens are effectively prohibited from accessing the Web by the price. It cost me seven dollars an hour to use a dial-up connection. The government caps Cuban salaries at 20 dollars a month, so it costs a citizen ten days of income just to get online for an hour. Once they do get online, the connection will be so slow that surfing around is impossible. It took me the better part of my hour to get connected, to open my inbox, and to send a single email to my wife telling her I had arrived safely and without incident.

The government strangles the Internet because it fears free information. There can be no other reason. That’s also why they vet journalists in advance and require special visas. Information can barely get in and barely get out. There can be no Twitter or Facebook revolution in Cuba’s near future.

And there are apparently no real newspapers or magazines, at least none that I saw. No International Herald Tribune. No Newsweek and Time in the dentist’s office. No Google News since there is no Google. Certainly not the Wall Street Journal or The Economist.

I hadn’t even been there a full day and I already felt umbilically severed from the rest of the planet. My awareness of the world narrowed to what I could see right in front of me. I felt as though I had lost one of my senses. I had no real access to the Internet. No CNN, no New York Times. No blogs, not even my own. Nothing at all. I could not use my iPhone. I may as well have been at the bottom of the ocean.

The only newspaper I saw was Granma, the official organ of the Communist Party. Juventud Rebelde supposedly exists somewhere, as well, but I didn’t see any copies.

That, by the way, is the most outrageously named newspaper I know of. The English translation of Juventud Rebelde is Rebel Youth—as if it’s Cuba’s version of Rolling Stone. But God, no. It’s not that at all. Rebel Youth indoctrinates young people with the zombie ideology of walking dead men. Youthful and rebellious it ain’t. It is the most tired, stale, old, and establishment “newspaper” in the hemisphere.

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  • Cuba sounds like the perfect home for Michelle, Barry, Nancy and on and on.

    I am grateful for our freedoms.
    To all contributors and frequent visitors of TAC….Happy Thanksgiving and Blessings to you and your loved ones.
    Thank God for all of you.
    Your insights and deep Faith help me to go on proclaiming the Great News in my daily affairs. Thanks be to God.

  • Obama must wish he was Castro.

  • But, free healthcare!

  • By far the scariest part I found was:

    French philosopher Michel Foucault assailed it as a cruel, ingenious cage. “The panoptic schema makes any apparatus of power more intense,” he wrote. “It’s strength is that it never intervenes, it is exercised spontaneously and without noise.”

    Prisoners collaborate in their own surveillance because their heads are haunted by the thought of an all-seeing eye.

    No prison was ever designed to all of Benthem’s specifications, but dozens were constructed around the world that met most of them. The one that most closely resembles Benthem’s Panoptic regime is in Cuba.

    I have something to add to it, but quite frankly it chills me too much to say anything.

  • Nate, I think today’s society of surveillance is primarily a product of increasing crime. When morality breaks down, people are less likely to self-govern. Resources are limited, and security personnel cannot be placed everywhere. But cameras can be placed almost everywhere.

  • Be careful what you wish for. The way Obama’s going, you’re headed right down that path.
    But I suspect that’ll change next November.

  • What continues to astonish me is just how committed some peopel remain to theory. They are willing to forego all sorts of things, mistreat others, and deny reality fro the sake of a marxist dream. It’s incredible. Cuba and North Korea are dinosaurs. What’s really scary is that many people in free countries continue to believe in marxism.

  • Don the Kiwi-
    “…but I expect that will change next Nov.”

    How I wish!!
    In 2016 the Dems will go with Cult hit Hillary. As the mindless dweebs thought it cool and “historic” to vote for the 1st Afro-sudo-American you can bet your 4X beer that they’ll vote Hell er eee.

  • “But I suspect that’ll change next November.”
    Right now the Dems are in full melt down mode over ObamaCare and it will only get worse by election day next year. In 2016 I think the public will be more than ready to make the customary swing to the opposing party after a two term presidency.

  • “When morality breaks down, people are less likely to self-govern. Resources are limited, and security personnel cannot be placed everywhere.”
    When morality breaks down? Did morality self implode” The person of God was forcibly removed from the public square by atheism which denies the immortal rational human soul and eternal destiny. When nobody was looking our unalienable civil rights went to hell in a hand basket. Human sacrifice, pornography and every other vile, evil vice became our women’s home companion. Men never bothered to grow up. So, we got sodomy. Legalized, codified atheism begot every demon in hell and you say morality broke down. Well, it had a lot of help.
    As far as Hillary, Hillary was more than willing to put innocent men in prison for two years for healing a patient without her healthcare. Hillary is the matron of the gulag. Wait and see if Obamacare isn’t willing to imprison citizens for practicing freedom. Obamacare has a clause which states that Obama may change anything at any time, even Congress cannot do that. Obama can order a conscience clause if he cared about his constituents. “…or prohibit the free exercise thereof.”

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING

  • Obama offering a “conscience clause” is akin to Hitler offering a Kosher catalog to the “vacationers of Auschwitz.”

    In the end the two sweet ideologists will have an eternity to pat each other on the back at their “social justice practices.”

  • Jon,

    I must apologize for heading into the wind with guns blazing with my last comment. All these happenings are no act of God. They are calculated and diabolical man made travesties of Justice. I do not apologize for speaking what they are. I apologize for saying it to an inocent person.
    Do forgive me and celebrate a Happy Thanksgiving. At our home some Thanksgiving Days we have a WHOBEAST…one roast beef with eight chiken legs attached. Domesticated WHOBEASTS can’t fly any more than domesticated turkeys.

  • Philip: “Obama offering a “conscience clause” is akin to Hitler offering a Kosher catalog to the “vacationers of Auschwitz.”
    True. Enjoy your domesticated turkey and remember grace before meals.

  • This to shall pass Mary DeVoe…
    domesticated turkey & the reign of a false presidency.
    Peace.

  • Mary De Voe, I was speaking metaphorically when I said morality has broken down. It’s kind of like saying America hates itself or our society is committing suicide.
    What is a Whobeast and what does it taste like? Where can i get one?
    Happy Thanksgiving!

  • On November 27th in 1095, Pope Urban II (declared Blessed by Leo XIII) called upon the Franks to defend Eastern Christians and liberate Jerusalem for the glory of God. Give thanks to God for the crusaders.

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  • Finally found what it was that was unnerving me.

    http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/12/this-is-just-beginning.html

    Prisoners collaborate in their own surveillance because their heads are haunted by the thought of an all-seeing eye.

    That’s what’s happening. Society is being turned into a Foucault cage as a whole, and we citizens are collaborating in our own surveillance.

    If anything, the cage proves we don’t need the “all-seeing eye” everywhere. Just enough places at random times to convince us it’s everywhere.

    And we’ll construct our own cages.

Thanksgiving: Time to Discuss ObamaCare?

Tuesday, November 26, AD 2013

 

 

ObamaCare Propaganda Sheet

And you all think that Thanksgiving is about thanking Almighty God and having a great meal!  Allahpundit at Hot Air sets us straight:

Believe it or not, these soulless robots have prepared an actual talking-points memo for the occasion replete with tips on how to plan your “talk.” My favorite: “Integrate the talk into family time.” Good advice — and for my money, the more dramatic the integration, the better. When your cousin pulls out baby pictures of her newborn and tries to pass them around, grab her arm gently but firmly and say, “Hey — isn’t there something more important we should be discussing?”

Don’t be fazed by the stunned silence that follows. That’s your opening to grab your iPad and start the Powerpoint on enrollment that you’ve prepared.

I like the idea that you, by dint of having donated to Obama and happily swallowed endless lies about keeping your plan and your provider network, are necessarily the “voice of reason” at the dinner table this year. In the unlikely event that you find yourself seated across from one of these benighted schmucks, you can play it three ways: One: Deflect. Change the subject. Bring up “The Walking Dead” or how boring the NFL is this year or whether maybe Orwell had a point about statism’s insidious power to dehumanize people by reducing them to cogs in a government propaganda machine. Two: Engage. Ace has prepared a helpful talking-points memo of his own in case you find yourself at a loss upon being pitched on O-Care by the same arrogant little sh*t who called you ignorant for doubting that the program would work at Thanksgiving dinners past. (If Ezra Klein has any conservative relatives, he or she is about to have the best Thanksgiving ever.) Three: If there are people at the table considering buying a plan on the exchange, wait patiently until they’re done cursing Obama for having forced their insurer to cancel their old coverage and then prepare them for how to shop on the exchange.

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  • This has got to be the best idea since the suggestion of some self-appointed health experts a couple of years back, that the holidays were a great time to remind your overweight relatives about the dangers of obesity…

    If you read the letter carefully, though, it does NOT say that the reader should initiate dinner table discussions of Obamacare, it simply offers talking points for responding if one is asked about it (“when people turn to you”), or for joining in a discussion that has already begun (“Sometimes it’s easier to just let all those rants go without getting involved”).

    The best line in this letter has to be “Chances are, folks at the dinner table probably look to you mostly as a voice of reason on the subject.” Really? They’re going to look to a hardcore Obama supporter who signed up to be on the Organizing for Action mail/e-mail list as a “voice of reason?”

  • Ha! I beat them too it, and with a stranger (two actually). Insurance and what not came up naturally in conversation. . .on the tennis court of all places. We all agree ObamaCare is a disaster, and I’m likely to lose my insurance next year during the second round of health insurance cancellations.

  • “I beat them TO it . . .” I know where the boys get their dyslexia.

  • I don’t engage in conversation with people for whose opinions I have no respect. So, I can’t ask, “For what are you thankful this year?”

    It’s all lies. Lies. All lies.

    Here’s my coined response to my relative Obama-worshiping idiots: “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame in me. Fool me for five years, I’m an obama voter.”

  • Should I keep the talking points folded in my pocket for easy reference to spring my enlighten superior intellect on my unwitting, ignorant, hate filled, racist, parochial, gun clinging family members? Oh what burden we, the best and brightest, have to bear being saddled with uncles (and other family members) such as we have. I like the idea of the PowerPoint – can someone feed me that too so I do not have to think too hard or do any work. With a PowerPoint , I can do a much better job of talking down to my family. Do not think I am not thankful for anything . . . I thank god or gods or goddess or spirits or force or whatever. . . that I only have to sit with the unintellectual masses once a year! Now, where is my tobacco pipe and tweed jacket with patches on the elbows, I want to sit down and read the new issue of the Occupy America magazine.

    I enjoy how patronizing they are about those silly old uncles spouting off at the dinner table. It is making assumptions about the “family” that does not exist in the modern liberal idea of family. (A family is any group that decides it is a family.)

    It just oozes with condescension, clichés, paternalism, and oversimplification.

    And with that I wish Happy Thanksgiving to all and to all a good night . . . or something like that.

  • Yup. I guarantee you, more people are going to be sharing their health insurance stories this year than any Thanksgiving before. At some tables, that’s all they’re going to talk about.

  • “uncles everywhere feel the need to spout off about Obamacare.”

    I read that first sentence and thought the rest of the letter was going to be a parody about uncles who want to tell you how wonderful America will be when everyone “gets covered.”

  • What I have to say to Obama about his Obamacare and all of his legions of doom is quite unprintable. Godless, iniquitous, diabolical man of sin and depravity.

  • It is reasonable, from the standpoint of a secularist mindset, that Thanksgiving dinner would be an opportune and effective setting for healthcare discussion. To someone who reads the holiday in a religious light, it is irreverent. It comes down to how we value our priorities. Christians will probably feel Thanksgiving is a time to focus upon God and the debt of gratitude we owe him. To discuss health insurance matters during that time would be inappropriate.

  • It is reasonable from the stand point of a political opportunist to view every disaster as an opportunity to advance their cause – it does not in actuality make is so . . . our society may be so harden as not to view it as such but bad manners are still bad manners. (See “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.” – Rahm Emanuel). Thanksgiving is a time to be thankful for what we have and reestablish family connections. It is not a time to advance your political position. I am not saying it does not happen but I tend to agree with Miss Manners on this topic:
    But to be polite — and for that matter, to be effective — those with opposing views must be respectful and fair. That requires listening to the other’s argument and conceding when convinced. And it means confining the discussion to the subject matter, eschewing personal criticism.
    Miss Manners’ Guide to the Turn-of-the-Millennium” that discussing financial matters is generally considered in poor taste, whether the financial matters are yours or someone else’s. Other taboo topics are religion, sex and politics, according to Martin. Although these topics are fascinating to many, they can cause emotions to run high, resulting in major disagreements among guests and a ruined dinner party.

  • Crises are indeed moments of opoportunity. Revolutionaries have sometimes hoped to create them in order to usher in change. Thanks for your comments.
    While Miss Manners may have an issue with discussing religion during a holiday dinner, I certainly don’t. As a Christian, I have to disagree with her on that. In the case of Thanksgiving, it’s hard to imagine giving thanks if no Creator exists, and the Christian God is the inspiration for this yearly thanksgiving.
    It is unfortunate that people attribute their success to themselves oftentimes. If one reflects properly, they’ll see they are part of a vast, intricate web of interdependency with the Almighty God orchestrating all things. It is also a terrible thing when Thanksgiving is equated wtih eating a well-cooked turkey with sides. Happy Turkey-Day simply isn’t adequate–it indicates profound ignorance and reduces the day to one of gluttony. That simply won’t do.

  • Honestly, I hate Thanksgiving for personal, childhood-wound reasons, but I guess I should be thanking God Almighty that my parents & sister are conservative, and cannot stand anything having to do with Obama. While I think the phrase, “It could be worse,” is extremely mean to say to people who are suffering, I do think can fit in well this Thanksgiving, in light of the propaganda going around.

  • Ace of Spades’ Turkey Day tip: “Hey remember when you said that ObamaCare was going to work great, and then, when people asked you how it actually worked, you sort of implied they were stupid for not knowing, and yet you never provided any evidence that you had any idea of how it was supposed to work yourself? Yeah, you were wrong then, too.”

    People want to discuss ObamaCare on Thanksgiving Day because it’s the largest turkey in America.

    Missy: Das dicke ende kommt noch. Which is very bad for the worldies, not so much for people of Faith: God fits the back for the burden: offer it up.

  • Jon, I agree with you in that my family thanks God for his blessings on Thanksgiving . . . if I have guests over I do not brow beat them with the Bible instead I try evangelize by example. It is a slower process but one I am more comfortable with. As an aside, I have found over time that confrontation is not the most effective form of changing someone’s opinion or views. Telling someone they are wrong or an idiot is not an effective method to win someone over. Pointing out flaws in their logic and then letting them come to their own conclusion is more effective. As for crisis, you seem to be agreeing with liberals that you can do anything you want as long as it advances your cause. I am sorry but I do not believe that the end justifies the means. It may be effective in the short run to get where you are going but how many wrong acts end in a just society? Is it better to lose your soul in your rush to an ends or is it better to lose the fight but keep your soul? I know my choice but God gives us free will so you can make yours. Please understand that I am a highly flawed man but with God grace I shall be healed.

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Winston Churchill: Thanksgiving 1944

Friday, November 23, AD 2012

We must never cease to proclaim in fearless tones the great principles of freedom and the rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the English-speaking world and which through Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, the Habeas Corpus, trial by jury, and the English common law find their most famous expression in the American Declaration of Independence.

Sir Winston Churchill

America has had fewer firmer friends among foreign leaders than the Great Commoner, Winston Churchill, the Prime Minister who heroically led Great Britain to victory in World War II.  Half American courtesy of his mother, Churchill was often regarded as having a brash American style according to more staid English politicians.   The first person to be granted honorary American citizenship by an Act of Congress, Churchill had a life long fondness for his maternal native land.  During World War II he was ever grateful for America as an ally which saved Great Britain.  Here is what he wrote about his reaction to the news of Pearl Harbor:

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  • I wish Sir Winston Churchill’s last paragraph were still true.

  • Would that Sir Winston’s love of country had extended to Ireland . . .

  • Considering that Ireland wasn’t his country I don’t know why it should have. Further considering that he and Michael Collins negotiated the peace that brought about an independent Ireland, I think he did the Irish a fairly good turn on that occasion, as did Collins. In 1929 Churchill wrote this about Collins:

    “Successor to a sinister inheritance, reared among fierce conditions and moving through ferocious times, he supplied those qualities of action and personality without which the foundation of Irish nationhood would not have been re-established.”

  • I would have thought what Sandy did, not knowing history myself. Glad to learn about how Chuchill regarded Ireland, Donald! Whether it’s history or nuclear energy (or any topic, for that matter), it’s important to always get the facts (something I do poorly outside of my field of expertise). I know little about the former, so thanks!

  • Thank you for that Churchill speech. I’ve long had a keen interest in all things about WWII, but I know little about Churchill and England’s part in it. I wonder, would you have any book recommendations about him and/or England in the war? I know there’s so much out there to pick from but would rather have a recommendation or two from someone like you!

    Thanks for a great site.

    God bless.

  • It is good and edifying to read about the powerful speeches of Winston Churchill during the Second World War. At every turn of events in human history, God appoints someone to be His instrument of saving humankind from physical annihilation, coupled with freeing humans from Satan-instigated bondage. Winston Churchill was the person at that time; and he appropriately enlisted the support of Roosevelt. Thank Heavens that Satan and his Axis of Evil were defeated in that war. But Satan continues to try! Satan’s present try is to employ and mobilize Islam to unleash another Armageddon. It appears that the West and other members of the free world are taking Islam’s threat with levity. History abounds on how Islam had tried to annihilate the free world and spread the horrible horrors of the Islamic religion on humankind. If the rest of the world thinks it could stand behind the rules of human rights to allow Islam to continue gaining its spread in those places, then the world would hold itself to blame. Islam must be made to exist only in countries it holds sway over at the moment. The conduct of different Islamic sects all over the world must warn other nations to beware in allowing this religion to have any foothold in their territories. Islam cannot cohabit with any other religion. This is just the truth. This is just the rational and objective truth. Don’t bother about the rules of human rights for Islam itself is no respecter of human rights.

  • We must never cease to proclaim in fearless tones the great principles of freedom and the rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the English-speaking world and which through Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, (the HHS Mandate: no freedom of conscience, laws inveighing against the virtue of CHARITY, the spiritual and corporal works of mercy, imposition of cruel and unusual punishment, crushing penalties) the Habeas Corpus, trial by jury, (NDAA National Defense Authorization Act: no trial by jury, indefinite imprisonment without charges, no Habeas Corpus for American citizens), and the English common law find their most famous expression in the American Declaration of Independence.

    Sir Winston Churchill

    [“The TRUTH is whatever I say the TRUTH is”
    President Barak Obama

    The American citizen is a sovereign person confirmed in self-control, created and endowed by “their Creator” with unalienable rights.
    parentheses added]

  • @Chi,
    Not sure Islam was Mr. McClarey’s topic, but you may find comfort in study of the ejection of Islam from Europe. There was a reason for it. Spain, for example, threw out every Muslim they could find, and this after 700+ years of Muslims in Spain. There was a reason for that, too. All this is well-documented, although not widely known or taught in the US.

    @ Elizabeth,
    Churchill wrote an excellent 6-volume history of WWII from his central position. If you want to go easier on yourself, there is an abridged version in a single volume. That would allow you to read the 6 volumes of you so choose.

  • Donald, Of course, Ireland was not his country, although he lived there for a time as a youth. Nor was America his country. Your comment that his negotiation with Collins led to an independent Ireland ignores the 1916 Rising, the Irish Civil War, the manner of the creation of Eire, and the fact that Ireland is still today not united. I have great admiration for Winston Churchill as one of the brightest lights of our lifetime, whose leadership in WWII is unquestionable, remarkable and astounding. He is a giant of western history. However, the fact that he is a giant in leading England in WWII does not mean that he was right in everything he did. Mr.Churchill’s policy on Ireland was a part of the overall English policy of oppression that led to a partitioned Ireland and, eventually, to the Troubles. See Black and Tans, for an example. I don’t think anyone can seriously dispute England’s tyranny and subjugation of Ireland for centuries. Churchill was in the flow of this policy and he was unhelpful, to say the least, in the cause of Irish freedom.

    Respectfully,

    Sandy

  • Well Sandy, anyone who runs a search on this blog in regard to Ireland will quickly learn what I think about the subjugation of Ireland over the centuries by the English! However, I think it is clearly a historical fact that the peace negotiations led by Collins and Churchill did lead to the creation of an Independent Irish state. All of Ireland? No. With the Ulster Protestant population that would not have happened without an enormous civil war that the Republican forces simply lacked the military strength to win. Collins got the best deal that he could get under the circumstances and Churchill was smart enough to realize that the time had come for the English to stop pretending that they could hold onto most of Ireland forever. Prior to World War I Churchill was a vigorous supporter of Home Rule for Ireland, one of the few times he turned his back on a political principle, anti-Home Rule, espoused by his late father Lord Randolph Churchill.

  • John2: Thanks for the recommendation! Looking at reviews on Amazon of both the 6-volume set and the abridged, I’ll be honest and say that I’ll start with the abridged.

  • A good companion volume is David Reynolds’ In Command of History which is a masterful look at Churchill’s writing of his history of the Second Wordl War:

    http://www.amazon.com/In-Command-History-Churchill-Fighting/dp/0465003303/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353721459&sr=8-1&keywords=in+command+of+history

  • Thanks, Donald! Added to my WishList.

  • Sir Winston, for all his failings and what we would now call bigotry was essentially a chivalric gentleman; a quality that shines through from his earliest writings in The River War (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4943/4943-h/4943-h.htm) . Unlike other leaders of his era, he had little of their guile or calculating deviousness (I exclude Hitler and Stalin from consideration as they clearly were of the Devil). For these reasons, it is always possible to have affection for him whatever criticisms we have of particular actions or policies he undertook or espoused.

  • Churchill is not a popular figure with the Northern Ireland Unionists. In the first place, when in 1913 there was a threat of armed Protestant resistance to Home Rule, he (as First Lord of the Admiralty) threatened naval action – “If Belfast shows fight I will reduce it to rubble in twenty-four hours”. In the Second World War he considered giving NI to deValera in return for use of the southern ports (which had been given up only a few years previously).

    Britain and the USA were not the easiest of allies in WW II, and there was fault on both sides. Churchill was rightly suspicious of FDR’s naive trust of Stalin and his (to us incomprehensible) belief that the greatest threat to world peace in the post-war years would be the British Empire. Having pooled our resources in the Manhattan project the Brits were understandably miffed when Congress passed the McMahon Act, which meant that the UK was on its own in developing a nuclear capability. In those cash-strapped years we did pretty well, producing the A-bomb in 1952 and the H-bomb in 1957.

    However, the US underpinning of NATO and the eventual defeat of the ‘evil empire’ was the greatest achievement of the Pax Americana. Had Churchill lived to see it, he would have felt both gratified and vindicated.

  • That video clip was great. So inspiring ~ they all seemed to love him. Can you tell me who the men are sitting around and above him?

  • This was an address to a joint session of Congress. The two men seated above Churchill were Speaker of the House Sam Rayburn (D.TX) and Vice President Henry Wallace (D. Moscow). I am not sure of the identities of the men seated beside Churchill.

  • …Henry Wallace (D.Moscow)…, now that’s funny.

  • Ivan it’s true. Wallace was almost a Communist. Churchill was mystified and baffled at FDR’s thoughts, words and deeds vis a vis Stalin.

    Another facet of Churchill was his adept and skilled use of the English language. I can think of none who were better.

  • Churchill’s almost instinctive resonance with history is exemplified in his most famous speech, when he was confident “that the New World, with all its power and might, will step forth for the liberation of the Old”. This echoes George Canning’s speech as Foreign Secretary in 1826 when he endorsed the Monroe Doctrine: “I called the New World into existence to redress the balance of the Old”.

  • Penguin Fan, I agree. The US President scrapes through as a fool instead of a knave when it came to Stalin. His close associates on the other hand seem to have been willing dupes. What I know of Henry Wallace, I read from http://www.amazon.com/The-Forsaken-American-Tragedy-Stalins/dp/0143115421/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top by Tim Tzouliadis, which builds around the terrible fate of thousand of naive Americans who went to the Soviet Union in search of work in the 1930s, a compelling narative of the inner workings of Stalinism.

Thanksgiving Day Lesson: Socialism Never Works

Thursday, November 22, AD 2012

 

 

 

From  Of Plymouth Plantation, by Governor William Bradford:

All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery. At length, after much debate of things, the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other things to go on in the general way as before. And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance) and ranged all boys and youth under some family. This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.

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