But that was in another Country, and besides, the Wench is Dead

Thursday, August 8, AD 2013

28 Responses to But that was in another Country, and besides, the Wench is Dead

  • If he actually were insane, 45 years on 1st generation anti-psychotic medications would likely have left him with a very noticeable case of tardive dyskinesia. Little doubt he conned the jury and the head-shrinkers.

  • I don’t know the specifics of the case, but I don’t think that prior mental health problems should prevent someone from teaching. Am I wrong on this one? It seems so clear to me that I’m worried I’m missing something.

  • “I don’t think that prior mental health problems should prevent someone from teaching”

    I’m thinking it’s a prerequisite at most major universities.

  • “that prior mental health problems”

    When combined with murder I think they should. I have also done enough criminal defense work that I am skeptical that he ever was mentally ill. The airplane glue defense fits right in with the twinkie defense and the devil made me do it defense.

  • I don’t think that prior mental health problems should prevent someone from teaching. Am I wrong on this one?

    No, but heinous crimes should. What’s the contention, that he was hallucinating and thought he was shooting at poltergeists?

  • I can’t see anything wrong here. The law determined him to be insane. He did his treatment. No employer should reasonably expect a person to report every non-conviction that occurred as a minor.

    Based on the facts given, we have no evidence to indicate that he is dangerous other than his name seems “creepy” to some people.

    Should he express sorrow? Probably, but that has nothing to do with his job or profession. Grace is God’s business.

  • “The law determined him to be insane. He did his treatment.”

    He was released from the psych hospital six years after murdering his family. That better have been some superb treatment.

    “No employer should reasonably expect a person to report every non-conviction that occurred as a minor.”

    Non-conviction is a sweet euphemism for not guilty by reason of insanity for murdering his dad, mom and sister. I certainly would want a prospective employee to advise me of that little tidbit.

    “Based on the facts given, we have no evidence to indicate that he is dangerous other than his name seems “creepy” to some people.”

    Other than that whole murdering his family thing. We also have him changing his name and not informing his employer of his blood-stained past. If he is not dangerous currently now, he is certainly cold and calculating.

    “Should he express sorrow?”

    I’ll settle for honesty. I think this bozo is a sociopath and I wouldn’t trust him within a dozen miles of my kids.

  • I’m not saying I’d vote for the guy….

    I would hope that I could come up with a better fake name if I had to, though. James St. James sounds like a member of Spinal Tap.

  • excuse me Mr. Clarey I do not know how you justify your remarks with any type of catholic conscience. I do not know any more about this case than reported in various news releases but the Bible says:

    Though your sins are as scarlet,

    They will be white as snow;

    Though they are red like crimson,

    They will be like wool. It is quite possible he has repented and was actually insane. What do you suggest that he be hounded and not allowed to live with dignity and contribute.

  • Pingback: St. Dominic: The Hound of the Hounds - BigPulpit.com
  • “excuse me Mr. Clarey I do not know how you justify your remarks with any type of catholic conscience.”

    Quite easily actually.

    “Though your sins are as scarlet,

    They will be white as snow;

    Though they are red like crimson,

    They will be like wool. It is quite possible he has repented and was actually insane”

    If he was insane he has no need of repentance. What we do know is that he murdered his family, served six years in a psych hospital, changed his name after he got out, and failed to tell his future employer that he murdered his family. That does not seem to me to be the acts of a repentant man, but rather the acts of a cold, calculating sociopath.

    “What do you suggest that he be hounded and not allowed to live with dignity and contribute.”

    I suggest that we reserve some of our compassion for his victims, a shocking point of view I know, but one I hold to. His sentence worked out to two years for each life he took. If he is suffering some discomfort now, my heart bleeds for him.

  • “suggest that we reserve some of our compassion for his victims”

    Why do you suggest there is not any? Just because there is some respect shown for the law, his youth, his rights to employment, the possibility of his mental illness, or the possibility of redemption? None of those precludes compassion for his victims. For Christians, compassion is not a zero-sum game.

    “His sentence worked out to two years for each life to take . . .”

    You are still working under the unproven assumption that he was not insane and, therefore, has to be subject to a “sentence.” Those with more facts of the case than you concluded that he was insane. The legal system agreed. How about a little respect for the law unless we have some definite facts to the contrary?

    And, not telling an employer about an act that was done as a minor and that did not result in a criminal conviction may not have been the best course of action but it does not make one a sociopath.

  • “Why do you suggest there is not any?”

    Because their murderer received virtually no punishment and because people, including you, rush to his defense.

    “For Christians, compassion is not a zero-sum game.”

    Try not to act as if being a Christian requires going around with “Chump” tattooed to your forehead.

    “Those with more facts of the case than you concluded that he was insane.”

    Please. I’ve been doing criminal defense for 31 years. A jury was convinced in 67, when the insanity defense was all the rage, that this parricide, matricide, and fratricide was insane. He goes off to a psych hospital and is miraculously cured of the insanity that caused him to off his mother, father and sister after six, count them, six years. Give me a break.

    “How about a little respect for the law unless we have some definite facts to the contrary?”

    Spend the next three decades dealing with the legal system as I have for the last three decades, and then we will have a little chat.

    “but it does not make one a sociopath.”

    Combined with three murders I think it does. I think this fellow got away with a triple murder and well meaning fools are rushing to his defense.

  • You are still working under the unproven assumption that he was not insane –

    Again, what do you fancy happened?

    1. That he did not know that was his family in front of him and not a set of ghosts; or

    2. He somehow got the idea in this head that his family were auxilliaries of Charles Manson and he had to stop them from butchering pregnant women

    3. He somehow got the idea in this head that shooting people in threes is a perfectly normal recreational activity.

    4. That you can ‘cure’ violent psychopaths with milieux and the sort of talk therapies practiced ca. 1970. Or maybe they tried play therapy.

    http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0345339258

  • ctd, parricide very rightly creates a lifelong social stigma. This man did not merely do something embarrassing, which is the extent of behavior for most people with mental illness. He did something horrifically evil that continues to affect his surviving family members. While I certainly hope he gets into heaven, I wouldn’t feel comfortable if he were teaching my children. That’s a perfectly natural and justified reaction. It’s not uncharitable to show concern about an atrocity that was committed.

  • The idea that we are being compassionate towards someone by overlooking or minimizing their bad behavior is flat out false. And in this case it is just plain twisted.

    Furthermore I find it hard to believe that this university didn’t already know about this guy before the story broke. I am beginning the think that giving a kid a college education is a form of child abuse.

  • I could not help recalling the story of Charles Lamb’s sister, Mary. She stabbed her mother to death, in a fit of insanity. After four years in a private hospital, she lived with her brother for the rest of his life. She became a close friend of Dorothy Wordsworth, the sister of the poet and presided over a literary salon that included Wordsworth and Coleridge.

    She was the co-author, with her brother, of “Lamb’s Tales from Shakespeare,” and there are many touching references to her in his “Essays of Elia,” under the pseudonym of “Bridget.” One is of particular interest, “We are both of us inclined to be a little too positive…But where we have differed upon moral points; upon something proper to be done, or let alone; whatever heat of opposition, or steadiness of conviction, I set out with, I am sure always, in the long run, to be brought over to her way of thinking.”

    The human mind is beyond fathoming.

  • “The human mind is beyond fathoming.”

    How true. She spent the rest of her life in and out of mental institutions whenever her brother decided that her mental illness was too much to handle. He, as a result of his caretaker duties for his sister, decided to never marry, which she never did either. I have no doubt that in her case her mental illness was valid, and she was fortunate that she had a brother willing to care for her until his death in 1834. I read both Tales from Shakespeare and Essays of Elia as a child. My favorite Charles Lamb quotation: “Lawyers, I suppose, were children once.”

  • Donald M McClarey

    There are some charming memoirs of Mary Lamb by Sir Thomas Noon Talfourd (of Talfourd on Copyright, long the leading text-book) A barrister and MP, he became a Justice of the Court of Common Pleas, one of the three superior courts of common law.

  • “given the traumatic experiences of his childhood” made me do some research. To paraphrase the Chicago Sun Times, the small Texas town was divided into the conservative thinking townies and the liberal gowns (academics). James’ father was a biology professor at a local college. The Wolcotts attended the Methodist church and James helped start the church’s camp youth. He had an IQ in the top 1%; was an A student and socially awkward in high school. Being a typical “nerd” in personality in appearance and behavior he was bullied because of it. James became disaffected and turned to the counter culture of the 60s becoming a peacenik. He habitually sniffed airplane glue and had attempted suicide twice. After examining him six doctors and psychiatrists declared him a paranoid schizophrenic. James may have been heavily sedated at his trial.
    I am assuming he may have been tried as a juvenile given that he was hospitalized for six years which would have made him 21when he was released.
    His crime was horrific, but let’s not forget that he was only 15 which makes him a child in my book. Our society is intent on shortening childhood, lowering the age of consent and destroying childhood innocence through the media and entertainment industry. When a tragedy occurs though the child is viewed as an adult.
    I had a late friend who had a schizophrenic son. His mental illness became apparent about the time of puberty. She was a wonderful advocate for her son, but worried that if something happened to her his father might not monitor the young man’s medications. I hope that Dr. James takes medications so he remains stable.

  • “He had an IQ in the top 1%; was an A student and socially awkward in high school. Being a typical “nerd” in personality in appearance and behavior he was bullied because of it.”

    Which pretty well describes my adolescence. Somehow I did not kill my family as a result. Here is the true contradiction: If he was so mentally ill that he killed his parents and sister, there is no way he could have been “cured” in six years.

  • After examining him six doctors and psychiatrists declared him a paranoid schizophrenic.

    Remember Shirley Mason (a.k.a Sybil Isabel Dorsett)? Tens of thousands of people in the United States have been diagnosed with ‘dissociative disorder’ in this country. It is a rare diagnosis in Europe and you can find psychiatrists in this country who will tell you the whole mess is a misbegotten intellectual construct of Cornelia Wilbur, Shirley Mason’s doctor. I know one woman who related she had been told by a corps of psychiatrists (at Bassett Health Care or Benjamin Rush Hospital, I believe – she was a patient at both) that she had 17 different personalities. One of her closer friends had occasion to ask why, if she had that many personalities, I have only ever met one of them.

    Psychiatrists have had a chronic problem with their taxonomies and none more consequentially so than that differentiating schizophrenics from the rest of us. Charles Krauthammer, the lapsed psychiatrist and newspaper columnist explained the reason for this during the ACLU’s misbegotten intervention in the Billy Boggs case two decades ago: identification of schizophrenia is much more reliably done by examining the course of a person’s life rather than at a discrete point in youth. I was told by one mental health tradesman that about 3/4 of the people who were slapped with the label “schizophrenic” ca. 1965 did not merit it. He does not specialize in that phenomenon, so take that with a hunk of rock salt.

    That this fellow Wolcott has the intellectual function to work as a professor strongly suggests he did not suffer a schizophreniform breakdown in 1967 or afterward. As a psychiatric nurse explained to me many years ago: a true schizophrenic breakdown always leaves you damaged in some way. You do not get back to your prelapsarian level of function, even if you are among those who manage to earn a living and build an adult life for yourself (many never do).

    If he were a paranoid schizophrenic able to function sufficiently to hold down a challenging job, it is dollars to doughnuts he has been held together by antipsychotic medications for decades. Long term use of 1st generation anti-psychotics has some very visible effects most of the time.

    The only way this schizo story can be true is if you have serial improbabilities: juvenile schizophrenia, violent schizophrenia, an absence of moral knowledge or crucial factual understanding, recovery without manifest damage to intellectual function, recovery without anti-psychotic use or long-term anti-psychotic use without neurological damage. Not buying it.

    A hypothesis: you had a period of time due in part to the advance of prestige of the medical profession where broad swaths of laymen were willing to accept verbose expositions from psychiatrists (supposedly drawing on the esoterica of their craft) that the personal responsibility we experienced in our daily life did not apply in certain cases (and you need our expert knowledge and sophistication to identify them).

    Why not read Shana Alexander’s account of Patricia Hearst’s odyssey in the legal system (Anyone’s Daughter) or some of Scott Peck’s books published prior to 1985 to get a sense of the kultursmog of the time? Alexander interviewed the jurors who convicted Patricia Hearst and discovered this: they were quite impressed with the three top-of-the-trade academic psychiatrists that testified for her (L.J. West, Martin Orne, and Robert jay LIfton). It is just that after two weeks of trial, their testimony collapsed of its own weight. If you believed them, you had to give this woman a blank check for everything that happened over a 20 month period, and they could not do that.

    As for Scott Peck, he went so far as to attribute a woman’s catastrophic bout of lunacy to her mother’s banal self-centeredness. What was your mother like, Dr. Peck? This was not some case he had read about, but a patient of his and he was relating his conversations with her and her mother. Be the optimal parent or your kid is heading to the asylum (and pay us a great deal of money to show you in an indirect and obscure way how you are doing it wrong, it will only take five to seven years worth of weekly 50 minute sessions. Ninety dollars please). You have to ask how we all functioned before psychiatric office practice came to be so common.

    That’s a taste of the cultural matrix in which those psychiatrists and that jury were operating.

  • “He had an IQ in the top 1%; was an A student and socially awkward in high school. Being a typical “nerd” in personality in appearance and behavior he was bullied because of it.”

    Lower the percentile some, and that is Rod Dreher’s biography. Lower the percentile and change ‘high school’ to ‘elementary school’ and it’s mine. My first degree relatives sort neatly into those still alive and those who have died in bed. Same with Dreher. Just how did we get from there to here?

  • The prosecutor apparently did not even attempt to refute the shrinks’ diagnoses.

    My point is that IF he was tried as a juvenile and released from the system because he was 21, and IF he was really schizophrenic then he should have been followed with treatment and medications to this day. I suppose because of the right to privacy the public will never have that information (safe bet that the all seeing government has it).
    Would I want a child of mine to be on the same campus? No.
    Signed,
    Former nerdette or Ugly Duckling now a Swan

  • The prosecutor apparently did not even attempt to refute the shrinks’ diagnoses

    If he threw the case, was given generally to incompetence, or was taken in by their expertise, that may explain the acquittal. Prosecutors are not immune to the kultursmog.

    Cannot say about Texas in 1967. In New York when I had to know about these things (the better part of a generation later), homicides were allocated to County Courts (outside New York City) and the criminal part of the state Supreme Court (inside the five boroughs) provided the defendant had reached the age of 13. Family Courts do examine juvenile crimes, but not this sort of crime.

    The medical profession acquired by the early 20th century an authority and prestige it does not have anymore and psychiatrists, trained as they were in medical schools, were beneficiaries of that.

    Maybe this guy is a neuro-psychiatric phenom or maybe a sextet drawn from a corps of professionals with a long history of trafficking in speculation and intellectual fad was successfully played.

  • Pinky: Insane people do not murder. Murderers murder. Does the university have authentic authority to expose their minor students to an unrepentant murderer? I think on some level the university is afraid that if they fire James St. James, they too will become the recipients of his wrath. The university has hired a potential school shooter with a past history to support their fears.
    About this time too, psychiatrists said that they could cure pedophilia and reassigned pedophiles to public ministry using physician patient privilege .

  • Mary – Insane people do not murder. Insane people kill.

  • Pinky

    You are right. If a person is killed by a lunatic, that is death by misadventure (per infortunam as our old writers say) just as much as if they were killed by a bull or a falling tree.

Dr. Mengele Can Empathize

Wednesday, February 29, AD 2012

 

“After birth abortion” sounds like a catchy substitute for words like “infanticide” and “murder” doesn’t it?

Alberto Giubilini with Monash University in Melbourne and Francesca Minerva at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at the University of Melbourne write that in “circumstances occur[ing] after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible.”

The two are quick to note that they prefer the term “after-birth abortion“ as opposed to ”infanticide.” Why? Because it “[emphasizes] that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus (on which ‘abortions’ in the traditional sense are performed) rather than to that of a child.” The authors also do not agree with the term euthanasia for this practice as the best interest of the person who would be killed is not necessarily the primary reason his or her life is being terminated. In other words, it may be in the parents’ best interest to terminate the life, not the newborns.

The circumstances, the authors state, where after-birth abortion should be considered acceptable include instances where the newborn would be putting the well-being of the family at risk, even if it had the potential for an “acceptable” life. The authors cite Downs Syndrome as an example, stating that while the quality of life of individuals with Downs is often reported as happy, “such children might be an unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the state economically provides for their care.”

This means a newborn whose family (or society) that could be socially, economically or psychologically burdened or damaged by the newborn should have the ability to seek out an after-birth abortion. They state that after-birth abortions are not preferable over early-term abortions of fetuses but should circumstances change with the family or the fetus in the womb, then they advocate that this option should be made available.

Continue reading...

12 Responses to Dr. Mengele Can Empathize

  • There are not enough bullets for the huge numbers of late-term, after birth abortions we must perform.

  • I read this and wonder why people who propose after birth abortions feel themselves immune to the procedure. I shouldn’t think that way, but this is beyond infuriating.

  • These ethicists should be on Obama’s health care team. At least that’s what it will take to get (some) lib Catholics to finally oppose the oncoming evil.

  • A humorous meme floating around the intrawebz these days is “Godwin’s Law,” wherein anybody comparing an opponent in a debate to Nazis, or invokes Hitler, automatically loses. It is applied in arguments where such comparisons are obviously extreme.

    I doubt Dr. Godwin himself would disapprove of the comparison here.

    I cite this: Aktion T4 as a reference. There is a poster on the page that states, roughly, “60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from a hereditary defect costs the People’s community during his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too.”

    What other evidence does one need to see the source of the unmitigated evil these “ethicists” put out? The publication is as culpable as the authors for even considering to publish such shit (pardon my French but that’s what it is.) This is Satanic, purley and simply. There could be no other source for the inhumanity there contained.

  • It’s a well know fact that Mengele worked as an abortionist in Buenos Aries when he fled there after the war. A few years back, there was an article in the Washington Post magazine about a young female med student, very ‘pro-choice’ who thought about becoming an abortionist and did an internship at an abortion clinic. She didn’t become pro-life exactly afterwords, but did decide she didn’t want to be an abortionist. There must be something essential missing from ethicists, scientist, abortionist, etc who hold such views.

  • Understand this: there is no scrap of Christian morality that these people are not determined to destroy. They believe they are doing the right thing by initiating such actions. In their world view – which can only be described as wholly alienated from God – it is a requirement that an intellectual elite control human life for what they view as the betterment of all. A “defective” child does, indeed, cost money and can be a burden – so, get rid of the child.

    A revolution is required – and it may have to come non-peaceful in the by and by.

  • We are well down the slippery slope.

    It is terribly frightening and bewildering that very few know of this monstrous “logic” or see how insidiously this manner of thought is pervasively strangling our society and setting the stage for a truly horrific future. Large numbers of people are naive to what is really going on. The cleverness of those in league with such “intellectuals” at maintaining a facade of
    sincerity, while with complete foreknowledge, manipulating their “prey” so masterfully, is, to me, the imprimatur of the Evil One.

    I cannot believe THIS has occurred in my lifetime.

  • Pingback: THURSDAY EXTRA: GLOBAL CULTURE WARS | ThePulp.it
  • Once again, children with Down syndrome are singled out as a ‘worst case scenario’. This is inexcusable, if the couple doesn’t want to raise a child with Trisomy 21, just sign him or her over, pack up and leave the hospital!
    Why must mothers who have carried the child, and given birth kill them?
    We are becoming monsters.

  • How disgusting!!!!! How dare they presume to play God! I wonder if the mother’s of these two so called “intellectuals” would have chosen after birth abortion (ie murder) if they had known their offspring were going to end up being so evil? You don’t have to be a zealot to know this is soooooo wrong. Pray for them.

  • They do have a point, so let’s start with Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva, the first candidates for after birth abortions..

  • This is the utterly logical progression of the contraceptive mindset: children are a disease, man is a disease and must be eliminated. It is Cain killing his brother and thereby himself.

Funeral and Repast for Father Hinds Today

Saturday, October 31, AD 2009

Father Edward Hinds

The funeral for Father Edward “Ed” Hinds will be celebrated today, Saturday, October 31,  A.D. 2009 at  10:00am.  The Mass will be the Rite of Christian Burial and simulcast live int he Saint Patrick Parish Center Gym, East/West Rooms, and Cafeteria.  Additional audio will be provided outside.

This will be followed by a private burial.

The Repast will be at 11:30am at the Corpus Christi Parish Center, 234 Southern Boulevard, Chatham, New Jersey.

_._

Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli of the Diocese of Paterson where Saint Patrick’s at Chatham is located had these moving words to say concerning the death of Fr. Hinds titled, A Life Cut Short: The Mystery of Evil:

Continue reading...

3 Responses to Funeral and Repast for Father Hinds Today

Father Hinds Planned To Lay Off Suspect

Tuesday, October 27, AD 2009

Father Edward “Ed” Hinds was found dead in the rectory kitchen of 32 stab wounds late last week in the Diocese of

Father Edward Hines

Fr. Ed Hinds

Paterson located in the area of Chatham, New Jersey.  A suspect has been found who is the church janitor, Jose Feliciano.  He is currently in a hospital because of an undisclosed ailment and has bail set on him of $1 million.

Details are emerging concerning the case.  Mr. Feliciano has had financial and health-related worries.  He was recently laid off his second job earlier in the year.  Additionally The Star-Ledger (New Jersey) reports:

In addition, Hinds intended to lay off Feliciano because of money problems at St. Patrick Church, said Ken Mullaney, the attorney for the Diocese of Paterson.

Jose Feliciano

Suspect, Jose Feliciano

Many parishioners are calling this a double tragedy since Mr. Feliciano was also part of the close Chatham community as well as with the parish of Saint Patrick.

_._

For the previous article by the American Catholic click here.

For the most current article by The Star-Ledger as of this posting click here.

For a compilation of the latest news concerning the murder of Fr. Ed Hines click here. (The link may become inactive as time passes.)

_._

Update I: I misspelled Father Edward Hinds name.  It is Fr. Hinds, not Fr. Hines.

Update II: Information about Fr. Hinds funeral and more click here.

Continue reading...

8 Responses to Father Hinds Planned To Lay Off Suspect

  • I hope Jose Feliciano is happier now and his money worries have ceased. What a bum.

  • I could see stress and anxiety as causing Mr. Feliciano to be upset about the possibility of losing his job, but to the extent of extinguishing a life…

    I just can’t figure out why? Why go that far?

    From the article I read, he is known for a cool temperament and not known for losing his temper at all.

  • I can commiserate with Mr Feliciano as it is likely that he was under unrelieved financial pressure. The correct way for a man in his position to handle it though is to declare bankcruptcy and ride around in a bicycle. There is no way for a man his age and position to pay off a mortgage of close to $145,000. One simply has to swallow one’s pride and relax. Millionaires and billionaires do the same. There is no shame once one has tried his best.

  • Hmmm. The alleged murderer could have applied for unemployment, looked for work, entered into a forebearance program on his mortagage with his bank, explored bankruptcy with an attorney, etc. No doubt some nuts will now attempt to use the fact that he was having a hard time as excusing his alleged murder of a priest. I deal with people who are hard pressed financially each and every day and none of them think the solution to their problems is murder.

  • How sad but I figured as much. Well, he has no more money worries. Taking Father’s life wasn’t the answer and whatever he was doing to get Father’s attention wasn’t the answer either.

  • I knew Father Hines as a pastor, a man but moreover as a true friend. He graced me with his presence officiating my marriage and was a true inspiration to many and a leader of the faithful in Boonton and Chester.

    When these things happen, I often am reminded what is at the center of the bible: “It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man”. It is the exact center of his word (594 chapters before Psalms 118 and 594 chapters after). If you add 594+594 = 1188 – Psalms 118:8 is the center of his word.

    He was an inspiration and he will be truely missed by all that love him dearly. God will love him as he loves and protects us…

  • Robert J. Abate,

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings.

    That is truly a wonderful and heart warming passage. I often go back to God knowing that His plan is best for all of us and this relieves many of my anxieties.

    In Jesus, Mary, & Joseph,

    Tito

  • Pingback: Funeral and Repast for Father Hinds Today « The American Catholic

Father Edward Hinds Found Slain In Rectory

Saturday, October 24, AD 2009

Father Edward “Ed” Hinds, the pastor of Saint Patrick Church in Chatham, New Jersey, was found slain early Friday Fr. Edward Hinesmorning by parishioners in the rectory when he failed to celebrate the 8:00am Mass.

This morning there was a congregation of roughly 300 parishioners that attended the 8:00 am Mass the day after the slaying.  It was a somber and quiet mood as the parish remembered their dear priest who was the only pastor at the church and he also worked at the parish school.

Continue reading...

11 Responses to Father Edward Hinds Found Slain In Rectory

  • May he now be enjoying the Beatific Vision.

  • When I heard this I was saddenned. Still puzzled as to why.

  • I’m puzzled as well, but I’m sure the details will come out.

    For whatever reason, the grisly death of Fr. Hines, even though I don’t know him, bothers me greatly.

  • Why? I’ll tell you why: because our society is hosed, that’s why! How many generations of children have been raised in Liberal relativism? How many millions of children have grown into adults that have no sense of “right” and “wrong”, let alone enough self-control to *not* throw a hissy fit whenever they don’t get their way??

    Sadly these hissy fits can end with the blade of a knife!

    I’m not one bit surprised that some dude hacked Father to death over an argument. Just look at how people behave at checkout counters and while driving!! We live in a society filled with adult spoiled brats! We can’t even have a grownup liturgy at Mass ~ what makes us think we can have grownup responses to “No” ???

  • Whatever the circumstances, this is very sad; perhaps a commentary on our society.
    In any event, may our God have mercy on Fr. Hinds and grant him the fulness of His salvation, acornding to the promises of Christ.

  • I think of the murderer’s children in these sins. Murder by career criminals is not as depressing as murder by a family man (two young children)who held one job at the parish for 17 years straight where his daughter still attends elementary school. The priest was there 6 years. This could have been a complex rather than simple temptation from the devil involving a slowly growing sinful temper over differences between the two men. And a wife and two children now have a family disgraced for the rest of their lives even though they are innocent. And they have sudden economic trouble combined with the responsibility of visiting the father in jail forever. The children will question their own goodness for years to come; they will suspect their own tempers as murderous even in normal moments. Very awful. Satan is a billiard player who is never just sinking one ball at a time.

  • This is diabolical – meaning to divide.

    When we allow Satan to attack unity everyone is a victim – the murderer, the victim, the family, the parish, all of us.

    We need to reclaim the moral high ground. The only question is are we prepared for the carnage that always results when taking a hill, or are we more comfortable in lazy tyranny?

    The Pope has been warning us of the dictatorship of relativism and many of us are not listening.

    May God have mercy on all who are touched by this, especially Fr. Hines, the janitor who murdered him and the murderer’s family.

    This story just sucks.

  • How sad. I suppose a lot will come out about the janitor in the next few days.

  • Coffee Catholic,

    Your post is deeply disturbing. You know nothing of either of these men or what happened to make the janitor snap and perform the vicious, horrendous act that has ruined so many lives.

    This “dude” is a father, a husband, and -was- a respected and loved member of the church, the school and the community for over 17 years. Tragedy is not reconciled by blame or a biting, uninformed analysis. This murder is something everyone is painfully trying to make sense of. Both of these men were loved.

    All human beings can not be lumped into one compact ball that is then cut down the middle, dividing good and evil into two neat sections. God has nothing to do with this.

  • Pingback: Father Hines Planned To Lay Off Suspect « The American Catholic
  • Pingback: Funeral and Repast for Father Hinds Today « The American Catholic