Pennsylvania Bishops Speak Out

Sunday, November 4, AD 2012

On All Saints Day, the bishops of Pennsylania released a statement on the upcoming elections.  Here is the text:

Each year on this day the Catholic Church celebrates “All Saints Day.”  This solemnity remembers those who have fulfilled their earthly vocation and now enjoy eternal happiness in the presence of God.  These saints may be unnamed, but they certainly are not unknown.  Their lives are characterized by steadfast faith and charitable works.  They exemplify what it means to love God and love one’s neighbor.

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  • Nice letter. The Bishops are to be commended. Now let them publicly excommunicate the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage politicians. And yes, with a few exceptions those politicians are Democrat. It is the Democratic Party which is threatening this “democracy” just as it did in the 19th century: today’s abortion is yesterday’s slavery.

  • Wow, really good. As I read this part (wholeheartedly agreeing), I couldn’t help but to think how far we have come. Can you imagine the USCCB/NCCB or any other other association of bishops in the US writing something so sound and so thoroughly Catholic and insightful thirty to forty years ago? We’ve some a long way thanks to the leadership of our last two popes. Deo Gratias.

    Today Catholics face a growing and deeply troubling effort that seeks to extend the reach of government into every aspect of social life. In turn, this generates a demand for exclusive allegiance of individuals and groups to the requirements of the State. This demand denies the primacy of associations that exist prior to the State, such as the family, church or synagogue, and even fraternal and charitable agencies. These groups enjoy a priority both chronologically, in terms of historical development, and practically, inasmuch as they engage the vast majority of activity in our everyday lives.

    As Christians we do owe an appropriate loyalty to the State. We strive to maintain good relations with civil authority. But our primary allegiance must always be to God and to God alone.

  • Good. (The ending could be larger font and bolded for greater impact on attention spans of the anxious.)
    In the Diocese of Springfield, MA, our Bishop wrote a letter to exhort a No vote on Question 2, which asks whether seconal assisted suicide would be something one with a ‘six months to live’ prognosis would find desirable.

    I hope such guiding help for all doesn’t end with the election.

  • Lots and lots and lots of prayers are needed for the next 48 hours and another 24 after that asking for God, Our Father, to sear the consciences of Catholics so that they vote to preserve our Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion in such numbers that the enemy of God can not cheat and steal our Constitutional Rights given to us by our Founding Fathers.

  • I believe it not an exaggeration to say that this battle of worldviews, ideals and beliefs is one of historic proportion. Cardinal Dolan said of the H.H.S. Mandate ; “We did not bring this fight however we will not run from it.”
    The Bishops letters being proclaimed around the parishes this day is a call to HEARTS.
    A formed conscience, that quiet voice inflaming our hearts is our strength and courage to stand fast and defend Liberty.
    Tuesday is landing day on the beachhead.
    Tuesday is our day to reclaim what was given away four years ago.
    Tuesday is our charge with millions of holy souls at our side. Our charge for freedom.

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  • Election results 2012. Catholic Church – 0. Democrat Party – 1.

Bishop David Ricken: “This could put your own soul in jeopardy.”

Monday, October 29, AD 2012

Bishop David Ricken of the Diocese of Green Bay, Wisconsin released a letter to his diocese on October 24 outlining considerations that should be taken into account by Catholics when voting:

I would like to review some of the principles to keep in mind as you approach the voting booth to complete your ballot. The first is the set of non-negotiables. These are areas that are “intrinsically evil” and cannot be supported by anyone who is a believer in God or the common good or the dignity of the human person.   They are:  

1. abortion  

2. euthanasia  

3. embryonic stem cell research  

4. human cloning  

5. homosexual “marriage”  

… Some candidates and one party have even chosen some of these as their party’s or their personal political platform. To vote for someone in favor of these positions means that you could be morally “complicit” with these choices which are intrinsically evil.   This could put your own soul in jeopardy.   The other position to keep in mind is the protection of religious liberty. The recent aggressive moves by the government to impose the HHS mandate, especially the move to redefine religion so that religion is confined more and more to the four walls of the Church, is a dangerous precedent. This will certainly hurt the many health care services to the poor given by our Catholic hospitals. Our Catholic hospitals in the Diocese give millions of dollars per year in donated services to the poor. In the new plan, only Catholic people can be treated by Catholic institutions.

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  • Alas, I think he will be ignored by many. In our state, (my own town actually) a Democrat Catholic publically came out with the Personally Opposed, But… and is running for state office. You know, she just might win too.

  • If the choice is unlimited abuse of the U.S. Constitution or preserving the rights of the people under the Constitution then one shouldn’t have difficulty in making the correct choice. In my opinion the impact of a biased msm is more damaging to our nation than the visible attack of a radical regime. If our Catholic church can not distinguish between the enemy of freedom and it’s supporters then loss is inevitable. I pray the united Bishops effort has been enough to save our freedoms.
    Bahl has too many followers in the world including our church.

  • …..including some of the members of our Holy Church. ( correction added )

  • I preface by stating that I will be pulling a Republican straight ticket this year – the first one of my life.

    That having been said, philip, I pray that the GOP places a return to constitutional principles at the forefront of its plans. Such is not the case now.

    I disagree with many of the specific positions of our Libertarian cousins but the general thrust of their belief that we have deviated far from the principles of the Republic and that the GOP is not committed to restoring our constitution is spot on. It is noticeable that Romney has said not a word about Executive Orders. Obama was lying when he said, as a candidate, that he would not dive down that unconstitutional rabbit hole. Romney is silent.

    Is Romney reserving the power to rule by executive whim? Hopefully he will beat Obama and we will see.

    Even if Romney refrains from running the Executive Branch like his own little private agent and an extension of his party – sins visited upon us in large and small ways for the last three and a half years, it seems clear that GOP Representatives and Senators have no sense of the power vested in the Legislature by our constitution. They follow the executive, whomever he is, like stubborn goats, propelled forward only by an insatiable and gluttonous desire for individual prestige and advantage. They see no more clearly than their Democrat counterparts that the US Constitution places them in the driver’s seat, not the rumble seat of American policymaking.

    Finally, from top to bottom of the federal government and through all three branches, there is an overwhelming sense that Federalism is dead. Would that the states saw it differently but they are too busy making their administration the tool of federal policy to do other than stand, hat in hand, at the doors of Washington, hoping for the crumbs of the bread ripped from the hands of their own people.

    I truly do wish that our Republic was even a shadow of the constitutional government created by the Framers but we have transformed our people into ignorant and servile sheep. Forty years of teaching our children social studies instead of civics and history, doling out government benefits on every class of society without placing any burden to advance ourselves, and litigiousness as a substitute for personal responsibility has ripped the very soul out of America. But for a vanguard, curiously attached to the past, we would have ceased to be ourselves before now.

    So, yes, I will vote for Romney and the slate of Republican candidates on the ballot but it is an act of desperation, not one of optimism.

  • G-Veg-

    Constitutional law.
    Obama can be counted to do the very opposite of what he claims he will do. The game plan he uses is based upon lying as a means to get what he wants.
    I do not blame you at all for your straight line approach this election season.
    May God preserve the republic.

  • It is a curious reality that the majority of the lawyers I know have little respect for the Constitution. Constitutional Law professors have even less. I think this is a result of “thinking like a lawyer” – that terrible corruption of the mind that teaches one to manipulate truth like a sculptor does wood. I would expect no less of Obama than to have no respect for the Constitution and to have such hubris as to assume he could do better if only he had the chance to re-write the rules.

    Our Republic is not advantaged by having so many citizens taught to “think like a lawyer.”

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  • G-Veg-
    Manipulate truth….
    Your right on. The ego and law. Seems the appetite of many lawyers is feeding their unsatisfiable ego.
    I hope you had a safe night riding out the storm. We prayed for you. All of you in harms way.

  • Why is it ok to vote in favor of envy, jealousy and coveting other people’s money.? Why is it ok to vote to put government in the place of God and to encourage people to look to government to meet their needs and solve their problems?
    The party of death and sodomy is also the party of envy, jealousy and covetousness.

  • It isn’t OK.

    The genius of the Framers was that they assumed the worst in those who aspired to be active in politics and used those vices to safeguard the Republic. It is precisely the greed, the hunger for power and influence, the very human inclination to twist and manipulate for one’s own devices that the Constitution uses to prevent tyranny.

    My view is that the Framers assumed those vices would rule many who seek office and pit those vices against one another: the Executive Branch and Judiciary on one side and the Legislative Branch on the other, the States as states on one side and an hamstrung national government on the other, the impulse for unfettered license against the impulse for rigid conformity.

    The US Constitution is a formidable foe for any tyrant, even well-meaning ones. We have come close to abrogating it several times: the Whiskey Rebellion, the Civil War, the Red Scare, and the Obama Administration. Each time though, it has been the jealously guarded rights and greed of men that has preserved us.

    So it is now.

    It is a testimony to the wise compromises of the Framers of our constitution that the President could not get even a fraction of what he wanted through the healthcare debate and has had to resort to limitless Executive Orders to satisfy the diverse factions of his party. He cannot get what he wants lawfully and, so, has to directly abrogate the Constitution.

    What concerns me is that the Legislature, both Republican and Democrat, stand aside and let presidents rule by whim through Executive Orders. I don’t think it is a stretch to assert that Executive Orders represent the greatest danger to American liberties. The Framers counted on a legislature that would jealously guard their legislative prerogatives. Yet, since the second Clinton Administration, we have seen an increasingly fawning and emasculated Congress, begging for leadership and receiving dictates. It is even worse to contemplate that the States as states have lost all sense of themselves, with notable exceptions like Texas and Arizona. The States accept federal dictates without even a murmur of protest and act as though the Framers intended the federal government to dictate the terms and conditions of state powers.

    This issue concerns me greatly and that both parties seem quite comfortable with the degradation of liberties and Federalism, it is difficult to get behind even the GOP.

    I am Republican because there is no viable alternative for a Catholic but the GOP is only a shadow of what it should and could be.

  • G-Veg,
    Can executive orders be rescinded?
    Your explanation to Jared is appreciated.
    I remember in May how Obama almost threatened the Judiciary branch just prior to the announcement of their ruling on obamacares constitutionally. I was outraged at his arrogance toward the system, ( if it didn’t go his way) . Individual mandate…by the way.

  • …constitutionality! Sorry.

  • Executive Orders are controlled by each new Administration. When Obama took office he modified a host of GW’s, he eliminated a few, and added many of his own.

    Scary stuff.

Bishop Jenky: Obama’s Threat to Religious Liberty

Saturday, October 13, AD 2012

My Bishop, Daniel Jenky of the Peoria Diocese, is a big, jovial bear-like guy.  It is hard not to like him, but I have never been prouder of him than I have been this year.  He has been one of the bishops standing up and constantly sounding the alarm posed to our religious liberty by the Obama administration.  Go here to read a speech he gave on the subject earlier this year.

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  • Give your Account in Public.
    Public Witness matters. Hold Fast!

    A few hours from now your fellow defenders of the Faith will be on street corners publicly beckoning Heaven for help. Over 9,000 cities are participating around the globe.

    MSM will ignore, however God will not. This is a battle. Please pick up your rosaries and join us at noon today. The 50 million fallen babies will now support you, encourage you and defend you as you step out into the public square to defend our Religious Freedoms.
    To defend the lives of our future generations.

    Fatima was real. 95 years ago a public miracle happened. Expect miracles. Be a witness.
    Americaneedsfatima.

    Dear AC contributors. Please allow this plea.
    I will not abuse your site. This is a war, and we need each others help.
    Thank you and my God bless you.

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  • Great witness from our shepherd of Peoria. Here’s a Archbishop Gustavo Garcia-Siller of the Archdioces of San Antonio addressing the threats to religiouus liberty as a real and present dangeer. http://www.truthandcharityforum.org/the-threat-to-freedom-of-religion-a-real-and-present-danger/

  • May every American Catholic and all Americans of goodwill hear the Voice of Christ, loud and clear and respond appropriately. Our Prayers are with you at this critical time in the History of our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church as She faces the toughest Persecution of this New Century. May God hear the cries of the massacred unborn babies of this beloved Country and avenge this genocide.

  • Would that all our Wisconsin bishops had the acourage to disect the religious and political spectrums and order the reading of a similar letter. Our Green Bay parish would not, even after specifically asked, create a petition requesting prayer for non-invasion of the freedom of religion portion of the First Amendment. It is apparent that social justice has overtaken common sense; it doesn’t recognize that unless there is freedom there will be no social justice.

  • And the LORD said to Samuel, “Hearken to the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me from being king over them. 1 Samuel 8:7
    Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, “Behold your King!” They cried out, “Away with him, away with him, crucify him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar.” Then he handed him over to them to be crucified. John 19:14 – 16

    Jesus Christ established the Catholic religion. The Church has condemned religious indifferentism. The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereo.” The First Amendment is indifferent to religion. In other words, the Constitution rejects the true faith and Christ the King. The Constitution does not permit Congress to protect individuals from the errors of false religions.

    The bishops’ appeal to the first amendment is misplaced. The Church has an opportunity to explain why contraception is wrong.

  • “The Constitution does not permit Congress to protect individuals from the errors of false religions”

    Praise God it does not! (Can one just imagine Congress critters being relied upon to determine what is a false religion and what is a true religion?) The Church is now four square on the side of religious liberty and I am very happy for it. Coercion in matters of religion has been a flat failure throughout the history of the Church, and the reliance upon the State by the Church has been as misplaced as it has been disastrous. The Church can more than hold her own in the free market of religion that prevails in the United States, which compares quite favorably to the moribund state of the Faith in much of Europe.

  • Donald, AMEN to that. And unless Obama and his evil Government desist from trying to dismantle the Church of Jesus Christ, Ameica will go the way of all the historical world Powers and Empires which rose against the Church and perished into oblivion for ever; never, ever to rise again.

As a Catholic Pro-Abort Woman

Thursday, September 6, AD 2012

Bravo to Bill O’Reilly for taking note of Caroline Kennedy’s phrase “as a Catholic woman” before she attacked pro-life laws passed around the country in legislatures controlled by Republicans.  O’Reilly recognized this as a direct attack on the Catholic Church.  Of course this is all part of the Democrat party’s attempt to promote a de facto schism in the Church in America for political advantage.  As I have noted many times this isn’t merely an election year for American Catholics.  This is an Elijah on Mount Carmel year.  A time of choosing is upon us.

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  • The dear Cardinal will need to hear confessions tonight. There are over a dozen CINO’s who need to be forgiven.

  • the problem being they don’t think they are doing anything wrong..May God’s mercy be upon them!

  • “as a Catholic woman” !!! unbelievable. how could she be so confused.

    I hope others in the media will join Bill O’R in pointing this out.

    this is incoherent thinking! dopey.

  • This Democrat Party is in the face of the Catholic Church. Why? How did this happen? And Catholics make up the single, largest voting block for the pro-abortion party! What makes those Catholics think they are not sinning staying in the Democrat Party just like those who join the Nazi Party or the KKK?

  • In that second clip, she said “you know” so many times, that I’m surprised she had anything to say – if , y’know, we already know.
    What an illitierate – and she thinks she can get into the US Senate? God forbid.

  • “This Democrat Party is in the face of the Catholic Church. Why? How did this happen?”

    Please, allow me to introduce you to the US Catholic Bishops. God have mercy on their souls.

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  • it’s also the nonchalant, zombie-like way she says it. very creepy.

    i have no idea what JFK’s position would’ve been since it wasn’t a national issue when he was president…i tend to think, possibly cynically, he would’ve followed the same trajectory as his brother though i don’t know for sure. maybe his liberalism would’ve superseded his Catholicism. that seems to be the case with most of these folks with very few exceptions.

    as an aside i saw a clip of Crist and had to roll my eyes too at the “GOP left me” canard, where he referred to Reagan’s “optimism.” this is the moderate/liberal revisionism, where the most conservative president in our post-WWII history (who liberals hated with a passion and likely still do but don’t let on as much) is reduced to some generic patriotic symbol. well optimism and “pragmatism” of course. you notice when Democrats die they get lauded for their principles? it’s OK for them to be ideologues cuz it’s the right ideology. Jonah Goldberg’s made some good points on this.

  • A divorce Catholic who remarries cannot receive communion but people like Caroline, Pelosi, Leahy & Biden who believe in any type of abortion can. How is that possible? I am really disgusted with Caroline.

  • “I am personally opposed to abortion, but I cannot impose my morality.”, the schism in the Catholic Church, invented and proposed by Robert Drinan, led the Kennedy family down the treacherous path they now follow, the imposition of immorality.

    Some people were looking for a way to compromise their morality with abortion. Drinan’s slippery slope has led the government to force citizens to fund and subsidize abortion, to which they are morally opposed, and now contraception, infanticide and euthanasia. To silence objectors, Catholics are being disenfranchised and defamed. Catholics are being betrayed by Caroline Kennedy.

    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.—-Thomas Jefferson

  • CAROLINE IS TYPICAL OF THE CAFETERIA CATHOLICS WHO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE IN, SHAME ON CAROLINE

  • I’m not an American Catholic. I’m a Catholic and an American. And the fact that families like the Kennedy’s represent the face of our Church to this nation is very disturbing and shameful.

  • After reading all these comments I am glad I watched the tennis mathes instead of the convention. I do not like to watch a bunch of satanic people speaking against God and his plan for his children. The Kennedy’s have all given their hearts to Satan. Just look at all the tragedys in their families. May God have Mercy on them.

  • It is the TIME to storm heaven with prayers and fasting. For those of you who don’t pray the rosary, pick one up and learn how to do it. We are at a crossroads and the drought in this country and the storms are warnings to us to repent and return to God. Be in a state of grace, go to confession and be prepared.

  • So will her priest give her the Eucharist. Probably, because of whose daughter she is and the money behind that name. I am a Catholic convert, who is seriously considering Orthodoxy now (of the Eastern kind that is.) I cannot believe the spinelessness of the Catholic Bishops.

  • Many seem to be stunned that many of these ‘Catholics’ seem to have been improperly Catechised. You are correct in your observations. This unfortunately took place, by the failure of the shepherds to LEAD. Many became wolves and either DEVOURED or allowed the flock to be scattered. This destruction of souls was foretold repeatedly by warnings from heaven. LaSallete! Fatima! Faustina! Because these warnings fell on deaf ears, we will now live out the message of AKITA. Chastisement comes to the whole world. Scoffers, laugh now while you can, seekers of truth, stand and wait, as promised it comes. Pray for mitigation!

  • Can you imagine seeing these Cinos faces on judgement day… Sounds like heaven!!!

  • How can someone be pro-abortion and Catholic? The doctrine of the Catholic Church is “LIFE”. All religious leaders in every church in the USA, are “Obligated” to promote “Life” and tell their congregation,before the November election, to vote in accordance with “Life”, not DEATH>This election is an election which will segregate the goats from the sheep. Let’s vote in accordance with God and His Son and his sheep.

  • Your poor grandmother will roll over in her grave.

  • My, my, what an intelligent, you know, argument, you know, from a, you know, Catholic woman, you know. Jackie (an editor) must be flipping in her grave, you know. And at least we didn’t have to read and see all of this with Jack in office — although we’ve found out he was really just a hypocrite, you know.

  • The Kennedys do not get it. These dead branches are being cut off because they produce nothing but dead fruits. To whom much is given, much is expected.

  • The Pope has recently stated that if you can’t believe what is not debatable in the Catholic Church you should be intellectually honest and leave. This woman is a fraud the same as Biden, Pelosi, etc. It is time for the Bishops to get some backbone and refuse Communion to these people or excommunicate them.

    Silence on the issue generally in law means acquiescence. If they don’t say anything about this then they appear to be agreeing with the person making the statement. This is serous because these individuals get national attention.

    Some quotes from G.K. Chesterton and others:

    “There are an infinite number of ways to fall, but there is only one way to stand.”

    “Be careful not to be so open-minded that your brains fall out.”

    “Take away the supernatural and what remains is the unnatural”

    “When men cease to believe in God they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they believe in anything!”

    “Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine [Ephesians 4:14], seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one’s ego and desires.” — Cardinal Ratzinger (before he became pope)

    Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household. (Matt 10:34-36)

    St. Athanasius is the first recognized Doctor of the Church and has the title “Father of Orthodoxy.” The following quote has been attributed to him “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops.”

  • 2 + 2 = 4 NO MORE NEW MATH! Regardless of your feelings…the above equation is fact.

    Do not call yourself Catholic if you do not follow her teachings….especially The Most Important One of our time….abortion.

    This is it. You can not walk the fence. Your “grey areas” are over. Choose your camp, or be vomited out as Holy Scripture points out. By saying 2 + 3 = 4 doesn’t make it so because the culture says it does. If your Catholic than start acting like it, and go to confession and be free from the popular culture that chooses death over life.

  • When you continue this kind of socialistic logic to its conclusions it is not hard to figure what is in store for us just down liberal lane. In fact it is already here.
    Since college girls are assumed to be entitled to have all the sex they can cram into four years of study and the cost of personally choosing to prevent their bodies from functioning normally to this heightened involvement with the sheer pleasure associated with nature it is now considered to be the obligatory responsibility of taxpayers to pay for their choice of personal physical fantasy and casual sexual pleasure one way or another until they are out on their own looking for work in a jobless market, what is next?
    Well then some other liberal government run system of healthcare like Planned Parenthood can take over the job and gladly kill off any inadvertent normal consequences (Obama calls them punishments) that happen in the anti-natural process. Rest assured by the two fisted combination of government run media and liberal theocracy their choices will be protected from any religious or moral theology.
    After that the plan currently on the medical horizon now is that should they decide to attempt to retrain their bodies to function normally and hopefully produce offspring as their bodies were designed to do they will be allowed to review the net results (about to be defined as a Non-person by liberal lingo) and if they are not satisfied with the appearance, sex, or health of the IT they, with rights of ownership, can request that IT be disposed of BEFORE or (the latest argument) AFTER BIRTH should the owner not be satisfied with her product up to a year or so without penalty, would you believe?
    Socialism touts pleasure without pain or penalty, in practice it is convenience without conscience

  • She tries to exonerate herself and others like her…..she doesn’t have the authority to do so in the first place…..she can only use the laws of the Church thus she is not a Catholic but a “protestant”. By Church law she has personally excommunicated herself. She could be commiting a sin against the Holy Spirit in stating that the Church has no authority from God to tell her that she is in sin by influencing others to evil. Recently Pope Benedict has asked those who try to abuse the Church from within to get out.

  • The Kennedy’s as a whole have practiced the Catholic Faith their way. They would be better off as an Episcopalian rather than damage the Church by their actions. They are hypocritical when they hide behind the Catholic Faith and ignore the teachings of that religion. Personally, I think she and all so-called Catholics should be excommunicated formally.

  • My dear Caroline, how is possible for you to be so confused? It boggles my mind. It is so unbelievable to hear you call yourself a Catholic. Being a Catholic means also being a Christian, meanwhile it is ok for you to kill babies. Do you not know what it means to be a Catholic? Given your comments, sad to say, I believe you are neither a Catholic nor a Christian. May God have mercy on you and your family. Remember…your children and your children’s children will have to bear your sins.

  • Her first drastic error—–saying “as a Catholic woman…”. Roman Catholicism respects and values each and every life, from conception to natural death. Obviously, calling herself Catholic is the epitome of betrayal to the Catholic religion. Where is our church Heirarchy and why aren’t they addressing this type of scandalism, the Carolyn Kennedy’s, Nancy Pelosi’s, etc. ????
    Cardinal Dolan, the wonderful distinguished clergyman from my home state must have had nightmares as a result of being on the same stage after her. May our God bless and forgive her.

  •     This ( public pro abortion Catholics) is an entirely hierarchy matter on which the hierarchy for some reason chooses inaction largely… maybe because they feel acting will not stop one abortion but it will likely deliver dissenters into hell forever. Fraternal correction by laity requires that repentance as being very possible in the other person but it may differ for hierarchy.  Christ rebuked the stubborn while telling disciples not to cast their pearls before swine which He seemed to be doing.  It’s a complex area.
         Abortion is condemned infallibly not in the universal ordinary magisterium which is susceptible to debates but it is manifestly infallible in the extraordinary venue which is beyond debate ( canon 749-3(c)).  Therefore Bishops and the Pope can excommunicate such verbal offenders while only physical participants are excommunicated automatically under canon law.
         Here is the infallible declaration whereby John Paul II polled the world’s Bishops under him and got unanimity which is the alternative to ex cathedra in the extraordinary magisterium:

    Evangelium Vitae, section 62:

         “Given such unanimity in the doctrinal and disciplinary tradition of the Church, Paul VI was able to declare that this tradition is unchanged and unchangeable. Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors, in communion with the Bishops-who on various occasions have condemned abortion and who in the aforementioned consultation, albeit dispersed throughout the world, have shown unanimous agreement concerning this doctrine-I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church’s Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.”

          Catholic laity are frustrated with hierarchy seeming passive but maybe hierarchy see excommunications of pols as stopping virtually no abortions but surely delivering pols into damnation due to the improbability of their repentance.  They can be incorrect in such prudential judgements but they also could be correct.  Now the pols may be damned nonetheless but that might be a smaller number if some gradually change over their lifetime rather than digging in their heels after excommunication.
          One thing’s for sure.  We the laity don’t have as many souls to weigh as to damnation.

  • I just read her speech. There’s not much to say about her Catholicism that hasn’t been said already on this thread.

    The other thing that struck me was how badly the speech was aimed. She was talking to “the youth”, because, you know, she’s a kid, and she knows that kids have fond memories of the early 1960’s. She’s over 50, and she probably doesn’t have clear memories of the early 1960’s, but kids today apparently do. It just doesn’t make sense.

  • Dear Caroline,

    You are a HYPOCRITE and a SCHIZOPHRENIC!
    You cannot be Catholic and pro-abortion.
    How ignorant can you be? Take a basic course in why Catholics believe what they do. Then go to confession and repent. Time is short.
    Your soul is in grave peril. May God have mercy on you.

    catholic carol in canton

  • I understand Niel Diamond song ” Sweet Caroline” was inspired by her. She should read Eleanor of Aquitain’s tomb stone. Like the corpse of Eleanor, Caroline does not smell so sweet. She and those like her are not Catholics. They just have a microphone and a stage And suffer vain egotism too think they represent us and the Catholic church. And who is at fault for that! the Bishops who’s job was to publicly excommunicate them long ago.

  • One thing that should be done for the sake of the immortal souls of such people like Ms Kennedy and the likes of Palosi, Kerry , Biden, etc, is that their bishops should have a conversation with them that by taking a public stand as they are ,they have excommunicated themselves from the Catholic Church. As their chief shepherds it is their obligation to warn them of their precarious spiritual situation. It not have to be done publically. Possibly some have done so and if so you are doing your obligation. To those bishops who are not may you find the grace of getting a backbone.

  • Most Catholic Politicians are a joke, will Paul Ryan follow in their footsteps? Shame on our Bishops for even considering voting for these people. This DNC Convention says it all as to how low they will go to keep in power. The abyss is ever widening for these people. Everytime they put “Catholic” in a sentence I feel ill. This truly is a schism being created by our government via the Catholic Church. God is mercy on all who fall for it.

  • There is no such thing as a proabort catholic! why are these peoples priests and bishops not callng them out on this. You cannot believe in abortion and be a true catholic!!!! these people are crazy! Everyone person who promotes, gives proabort speeches, agrees with this murdering of our own species is just as guilty, with blood on their hands, as the person who
    DOES the actual abortion! These people need to be TOLD that right to their face.Do they believe as they walk to receive communion that JESUS just pats them on their heads and says. “That is ok how you feel, you are still Worthy to receive me!!!!!! Murder is a mortal sin!! Espousing it IS a mortal sin! Teaching young people that abortion is ok ia a SIN! We are called to pray for these misfits , but I cannot respect ANYONE who really believes abortion is ok. I wil never vote for a prochoice politician. Does not anyone see that abortion is our Biggest societal failling!. Our country will Never be restored while half

    of the country is screaming for this so called RIGHT. We will continue to be slammed in all ways, Until we give up this sin!! God will NOT bless us anymore until we STOP!!!!

  • Please do not call her a Catholic: she isn’t, and God have mercy on her soul for the mortal sins she has accumulated in her lifetime as did most of the Kennedy clan: a sham representing catholic politicians…..yu know? (what was that all about?)

  • It is far too late in these social justice debates with outright disobedience and political correctness approaches to today’s perversions of human behavior and betrayal of biblical truth for our hierarchy to simply urge the Laity into action. Our actions are of little consequence within the media and for the most part futile if we do not have the weight of authoritative clerical discipline and/or pronouncements supporting our voices.
    Unless we witness prominent church officials and bishops condemning, defrocking and excommunicating these self styled ruling class individuals who present themselves as equally prominent laymen and/or politicians who openly challenge church law while imposing pain and suffering on the people with ill fated self endowed elitist rhetoric and socially lethal legislation the laity will continue to be recognized and labeled just as our president assumes us to be, uneducated uninformed homophobes clinging to our guns and Bibles.
    It is spiritually inhumane for hierarchy and church leadership to not display promptly and publicly their condemnation of obvious Evil policies and practices by groups and individuals calling them by name defining the consequence of their actions for the discernment of the faithful as we would expect from truly devout shepherds.

  • technically speaking, an excommunication does not have to be public. However; as these people are public people and there crimes against God and humanity are out in the open and
    manifest they cause grave scandal. More than Ms. Kennedy soul is at stake. For the sake of those who fall into hell because of their bad example justice demands that the church publicly excommunicate.
    The talk is private and results are not satisfactory, the rules of repentance demands a public recantation of errors. John the Baptist called Herod out publicly, the early church excommunicated publicly and the modern Church censors and excommunicate in its diocesan publicly. That is correct Bishop’s do publish actions against faithful in the church new papers and bulletins and release prohibitions to local national and international catholic publications.

  • “My people, you cannot fulfil your mission if you live the ways of the world. Those of you who choose to destroy marriages that are blessed by Me will be brought to your knees for any marriage that is destroyed by sin is destroying Me. Each time My chosen sons deny the true teaching of My Church and live their ways instead of Mine are destroying Me.

    “Each time a mother aborts her baby and chooses herself over her unborn child is destroying Me. My people, I suffered My scourging at the pillar, My persecution, and I stood and watched while others spoke false things of Me and yet I did this for you. My agony in the garden was a suffering of the sins that you now pierce Me with. I was sent by My Father to shine My light into a world that had been plagued with darkness and this darkness is soon to be cast into hell for all eternity. Just as I gave My angels in heaven the free will to choose My way or theirs, so you too are given the same opportunity, yet My angels were only given one chance, you are given a lifetime.

    “My people, those of you who choose to step ahead of Me will be sent to your eternal destination of eternal fire. My kingdom does not welcome sinful souls. My kingdom does not welcome the unrepentant sinner. Just as your hands work left to right so does My way or the world’s, there is no in-between. You cannot walk the middle line and claim you are My disciple.”
    Extracted from ‘Words From Jesus, As given to Jennifer by Jesus’, Message of 15th October 2004 8:00 PM

  • Caroline and others who are enmeshed in the culture of death, cannot and should not even hint that they are Catholic. They cannot and should say “. A Catholic is a follower of Jesus Christ, not Jesus Christ except for what I don’t agree with for myself. There is only one truth. The truth of Christ and the Word have not changed.

  • May the blood of Christ’s passion and the blood of all aborted babies stand between Barack Obama and his reelection. Amen.

  • The only ones they are fooling are themselves. There surely isn’t a person on earth who doesn’t know that murdering innocent babies in the womb is the gravest of sins! As the Blessed Mother has referred to abortion – the most egregious of sins – the one most offensive to God! How can anyone with a heart, a soul and a brain justify it? It is beyond arrogance. It is absolutely painful to hear these pro-abortion people describe themselves as Catholics. Please take the Pope’s advice and at least be honest with yourselves and move on.

  • The Kennedy’s were looked upon by other countries before John died to be a model catholic family. They have their own priest, they all go to church. The falling down for me started with few words from John as president when he said, I will never listen to the pope something to this effect. His fame, successes was short lived. He was only the president where the whole world cried and mourned when he died. The other falling away was the separation then Ted getting married while ex wife was still very alive. I am not sure if Chappaquiddick happens first. It seems as if they never got up and gather themselves to show once again that model catholic family I saw when I was 23.

  • She is “catholic” in her mind only, unless she is using the term as “universal” and not as in “Roman Catholic”. Canon Law is very clear…anyone who has, or helps, or encourages in anyway, another person to have an abortion is automatically excommunicated. No formal statement needed from any church authority.
    May God continue to have mercy on all our souls, and bring us all to have right judgment and true charity in our actions!
    PAX

  • Classic example of why it’s better to remain silent and be thought stupid than to speak and remove all doubt. You know?
    No, Caroline, we don’t know how you can be Catholic and a pro-abort Democrat. In fact, we have no idea. You know?

  • Mark,
    No. That’s the loophole in the automatic excommunication. It’s only for those very involved in a real life abortion. Go here:

    http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/abortio2.htm

  • I pray for Caroline, that the Holy Spirit will touch and change her heart with regards TO the SANCTITY OF LIFE FROM CONCEPTION TO NATURAL DEATH as well as TO REALIZE THAT SHE CAN NOT CALL OR IDENTIFY HERSELF AS A CATHOLIC IF SHE IS SERVING THE PRINCE OF LIES, DECEIT AND DARKNESS- SATAN! As a FAITHFUL CATHOLIC deserving a place in Heaven at the end of her temporary earth journey, she MUST OBEY GOD’s WORDS:

    Matthew 6:24  
    No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

    Caroline, may God’s Mercy be upon your soul. Repent, convert your life back to the WAYS God wants us to live our lives, that is towards the LIGHT that will save your soul and experience eternal peace and happiness and not towards DARKNESS where you will experience eternal life of suffering and pain!

  • As i told my wife in 2008, we have passed over to the obama nation of desolation. Just as in ancient times they sacrifice the children and the politicians throw them loaves of bread to keep them content. The schools are terrible and the the people for the most part do not want to follow the Carpenters advice to “take up your cross and come follow me” And while on the subject why do we now worship some “holy” football players who earn millions for working on Sunday?

  • Kennedy is definitely a rabid pro-abort but she is no Catholic! The door of the Catholic Church swings both ways. Kennedy, and her ilk, value cheap liberal politics over the Catholic faith. Fine! Let her be an important Democrat voice but she is no Catholic voice. The Bishops need to make an example. Enforce Canon 915. It is getting late in America and the Democrat pro-aborts are using the Catholic Church to promote more innocent death.

  • I was flaborgasted when I heard the comments from Ms. Kennedy. I believe it will be God that will judge us, but at the same time I have difficulty not outrage from the Local Priests, Bishop, Cardinals and Pope. I understand that we have to be “forgiving and accepting” as Christians, but this goes against the doctrine of the church. If the Church does not actively and with purpose condemn this and stand up for “life” who will? I hope this is not done so we “don’t rock the boat” in our political correct world, or worse yet “loose money” from rejecting this pro-abortion stance from so-called “Catholics”!

  • Jack Kennedy was the first president that I was able to vote for. We were so excited to think of having a Catholic president in the White House, and we grieved at his passing. It was later that we learned of his constant womanizing, his relationship with Marilyn Monroe, his sneaking women into the White House for his pleasure. The bloom started to fade from the Kennedy clan. Teddy and his womanizing. Then their abortion position. Maria Shriver boasting that she was a cafeteria Catholic made me lament that any Kennedy claimed their Catholic roots and religion. Now, Caroline Kennedy continues to make us Catholics, perhaps particularly those of us old enough to have voted for her father and to remember her as a little girl when her father died, weep with shame. I want to tell them to leave the Catholic church and to choose a church more compatible with their thinking. I long to see some bishop with enough courage to denounce the behavior of this clan. No matter how scandalous the actions of some of these high profile Catholic, most of our shepherds don’t seem to be able to deny them the eucharist. There are some, however, who do stand up for the teachings of the church and we applaud them and bless them.

  • As Peter Kreeft has noted, “so many Kennedy Catholics, so few Catholic Kennedys”

  • Just as a slaver would not have identified himself as an abolitionist, so those who oppose the moral authority of the Pope and his bishops in supporting and defending the pro-death agenda (i.e. abortion, euthanasia, sterilization) need to stop calling themselves catholic and using the religion that most of us devout would give our lives to further their own agendas.

  • Maria,

    Not just that, JFK (gasp) cut taxes.

    Maybe some bishop, or all the bishops, will write a memo to the faithful to wit “You cannot be Catholic and pro-abortion.”

    Never happen.

  • So many comments speak about “shame on Carolyn”. Though she is NOT blameless, this is truly the shame of the Bishops, the priests and pastors in the parishes, the vocations directors, the seminaries, the confessors, the contracepting RCIA instructors, the contracepting extraordinary ministers, the openly defiant religous (priests, pastors, deacons, bishops, sisters, and Catholic school teachers who are NOT Catholic – who aren’t even AWARE AND DO NOT AGREE with the accurate ABSOLUTE Magisterial teachings of the APPROVED authority of the Roman Catholic Church. That’s where the shame lies.
    SO many of our “pastors”, FATHERS! have neglected their children, have led them, LED THEM into the pit AND LEFT THEM THERE. Pray, Pray and fast that the biological solution occurs in every diocese. We have SOLID AUTHENTIC priests coming up through the ranks and in seminaries (particularly the religious orders; Norbertines, Fathers of Mercy, Franciscan-Renewal) who are still having to battle their bishops, pastors and the pseudo Catholic, defiant Catholic people in the pews. We all must encourage the solid priests, let them know that there is a MASSIVE ARMY OF FAITHFUL who are praying for them to be strong, be consistent AND LOOK SATAN IN THE EYE and openly, publicly EXPOSE HIM and his FATAL influence within the church. If this situation disturbs you, check out Truly Catholics (on facebook and by email [email protected]) and we can provide you with methods and materials to combat the evil that currently exists WITHIN our church. JOIN US!

  • too much “you know”stuff coming out of her “you know” mouth. Is she excommunicated yet? What a poor soul.

  • I remember what Mother Theresa said: “The downfall of America will be abortion!!!”

  • Sorry, but a Catholic cannot be pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-murder, pro-stealing, pro-lying, etc. Do you know why to be pro-life is to be pro-choice? Because, when one chooses to give birth to a child a near infinite number of choices will be made relative to that child. Choices made by the child in his/her life. Choices made by others in relation to the child. To be pro-abortion is to be for one choice – Murder, and the death of all possible future choices.

  • It is an Honor to be a mother.

    Your Grandmother Rose was Catholic and loved her children. I could not see her participating in any of this.

    Caroline , you have been through way more than J Lo.

    Let’s honor our children and mother’s and give these women a chance to be mothers.

    Your uncle Ted needed a lot of prayers … let’s see some light shine, Caroline for Truth!

  • I can’t make out anything the ditz says but YA KNOW. What an embarrassment those Kennedys are.

  • Must have gotten her genes from Uncle Tedd. The Church should have taken these Kennedys to task a long time ago. The Bishop of Boston was a slacker. The Church has a duty to instruct their members. After all, they’re charged with the very serious job of looking after the souls of their flock. We need to pray for our priests…they are under severe attack by the Evil One in these last days. Our country is at a cross roads as never before in it’s history. Are we going to choose Our Lord, Who suffered and died for us? Or throw His gift back in His Face?

  • Prayer on the 20th of October.
    Please allow me to spread the Rosary campaign here. Last fall over 6,500 cities around the world focused their prayers for the conversion of our Nation. Please become a Rosary Capt. for this Fall.
    Our goal is to end the culture of death through the hands of our Lady. Americaneedsfatima/rosary.com
    Find your city for this years rally. If not listed become a capt.
    Blessings for this Country…not curses.

  • Another scum pond Kennedy. . . She is no Catholic.

  • Some thoughts regarding Caroline Kennedy: I thought, she’s a millionaire and she’s going to hell, and I’m just a regular person and I’m going to Heaven. Who’s the lucky one?

    I’m not trying to be mean but Caroline Kennedy couldn’t even pass a college Public Speaking Class 101. No college professor would pass her with 4 “you know”s in each sentence. I’m really surprised that Teddy (let’s not discuss him) would have corrected her on this.

    Unfortunately, she IS leading other morons like herself into hell. In fact, she’s leading a parade of people there.

    I was also DISGUSTED beyond words that Cardinal Dolan gave a closing prayer at the Democratic National Convention – with all of their satanic positions. I understand the bullcrap about given both parties “equal time”. The problem is that the mindless dopes who watch the Democratic National Convention (who, most likely, didn’t watch the Republican Convention) would think that Cardinal Dolan was putting his stamp of approval, his endorsement on the Democratic presidential ticket. How many votes will be given to Obama because of Cardinal Dolan’s appearance at the Democratic National Convention? The Republicans NEED EVERY SINGLE VOTE THEY CAN GET to get this wannabe Communist tyrant out of the White House. I have a great fear that Cardinal Dolan, this backslapping, gutless wonder will become Pope some day. It’s a real possibility. He’s political enough. Why doesn’t Cardinal Dolan say something to Caroline Kennedy. Where is John Joseph O’Connor when we NEED him!!!!! THERE was a real priest. THERE was a real MAN OF GOD.

    If Obama gets reelected, and he frames things so that the Catholic Church is “unpatriotic”, I wouldn’t be surprised if we could one day soon be arrested for entering a Catholic Church. THAT’S one of the main reasons we have to pray our brains out.

    Caroline Kennedy is absolutely pathetic. Sure, I feel TERRIBLE that her father was shot. Nobody should be shot. However, what’s truly pathetic is that she’s in her fifties and her “career” is still holding on to Daddy’s and Mommy coat tails. Has she done ANYTHING in her life? When the Kennedys were furious that Obama did not push for Caroline Kennedy to be made a Senator (it’s her RIGHT to be Senator, didn’t he know that?), they turned against him. My friend told me at the time that he had heard Caroline Kennedy speak and he said that she was obviously very damaged; he could tell by how she expressed herself. I THOUGHT he was exaggerating. But anyone who says “You know” 1300 times in an interview to the point where it’s PAINFUL to listen to the person – has NO business seeking – or thinking herself entitled – to any public position.

    Caroline Kennedy talks about “public service” and what an honor it is. With the Kennedy’s, it’s all about “self service” and gaining power. How STUPID does she and the rest of the Kennedy clan think we are?

    Lastly, when I heard that that pig, Teddy Kennedy, was dying of brain cancer, I said a Divine Mercy Chaplet for him (please don’t throw rocks at me.) I figured that anyone who had to face Almighty God with Teddy’s record would need all the help you could get. When I learned that he was conspiring with Russia against President Bush and behind President Bush’s back (his communication was found in the Kremlin), I was REALLY SORRY I had said the Divine Mercy Chaplet for him. Well, God will take everything into account – I hope.

    Well, that’s enough time “wasted” on the Kennedy trash on a Friday night.

  • umm no you are NOT, you aren’t a Catholic by ANY stretch of the imagination, other than your own. again WHERE is her bishop to denounce and repudiate! bishops BE MEN OF GOD and not democrapic operatives!

  • you know
    you know
    you know, i am not very intelligent

  • When I first commented on this I said “incoherent thinking” and “dopey” and I still think that. She is not evil, but I would not be surprised if dope doesn’t have something to do with the you knows. I think she is a lost child and I appreciate all the people who will pray for her and her family. Prayers and love are needed. Mercy. Conversion is needed.

  • Note to her bishop: If this is not a full blown scandal, what is? Whatever private discussions you have had with this lost soul has now no good and now this is a major embarrassment to the church. It is not my place to criticize a bishop so I will simply and humbly remind you that you, sir, are responsible to God for the inaction that caused this scandal. This woman should not be able to go on national TV and announce to the world that she, with such blatantly anti-Catholic views, is a Catholic.

  • Part of the confusion among people about the Catholic Church are the highly publicized nature of events in the Kennedy family since 1960 – many of which were set in Catholic churches. Religion was muted by glamor and drama lived vicariously by so many church-goers. The attitude of permissiveness took deeply into their hearts and minds as catechesis for right and wrong.

    So many (around here) still have the lying Republican, dyed in the wool rightness of caring Democrats in their attitude and way of life of permissiveness and nepotism.

    This problem in politics, government and religion, and for our devotion to our Creator, would be well served by statements by Church hierarchy plainly defining how excommunication is a choice of free will, and how and why. They don’t have to name names. Then, people will be able to think within a framework that helps them to discern what they see and hear. Sort of a make-up lesson for the ongoing lost opportunity in catechesis.

    Or, there will forever be those waiting for the shoe to drop from a bishop or priest while they just go along judging all quarters with misconception and foolishness. Like some who snap at me about Republicans, daily Mass, all good coming from and being about who you know not what you know, n’stuff, you know?

  • Obama already snubbed her, refused to meet with her when the obama’s were vacationing in her back yard, never helped her Senate run, all of which infuriated her. Yet she support him and the Democrats over her Church. Weak woman!
    AND WHERE ARE OUR BISHOPS…THE WATCHMEN. WEAK AND TIMID AND LOST. THEY WILL BE LIKE THE KING OF FRANCE. IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR THEM TO STAND UP AND LEAD!

  • Caroline Kennedy’s persistent public acts of defiance towards the Catholic Church especially with respect to the sanctity of life is a major scandal. What is even more scandalous is the fact that the Bishops (especially her Bishop) behave as if it is totally acceptable. Jesus said to Peter and his successors “feed My lamb…feed my sheep” – Our Bishops are derelict in their in their duty – by way of their silence they imply they do not take the sanctity of life very seriously and they (the Bishops) scandalize all Catholics. Caroline Kennedy is not the only one our Bishops give a pass in the area of Truth and Morality – there is Biden, Pelosi amog others. Yes, do pray for the Bishops as well.

  • Obviously her thinking is muddled and confused… the video clip of her interview without a teleprompter is evidence enough of that. And her contention that she is both Catholic and pro-abortion/pro-gay marriage is absurd since they are mutually exclusive… you can’t be Catholic and pro-abortion / pro-same-sex marriage. I still don’t get why so many people who disagree with the Catholic Church’s teachings WANT to identify themselves as Catholic.

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  • Where is her Bishop and what does he have to say about this?

    A couple of quotes from G. K. Chesterton and others:

    “There are an infinite number of ways to fall, but there is only one way to stand.”

    “Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”

    “Be careful not to be so open-minded that your brains fall out.”

    “Take away the supernatural and what remains is the unnatural”

    “Moral issues are always terribly complex for someone without principles.”

    Mother Teresa – “America needs no words from me to see how your decision in “Roe vs Wade” have deformed a great nation.”

    Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household. (Matt 10:34-36)

    Hillaire Belloc stated “It is a nice question whether ignorance or stupidity play the greater part in human affairs.”

    St. Athanasius is the first recognized Doctor of the Church and has the title “Father of Orthodoxy.” The following quote has been attributed to him “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops.”

  • “Reproductive rights”, as Caroline Kennedy used this term in her address to the 2012 Democratic Party Convention, is both an incorrect and very deceptive term. The correct term, the term she should have used, is “Non-Reproductive Rights”. Women of child-bearing age who are sexually active routinely become pregnant at some point and have babies, that is they “reproduce”. This is both quite normal and quite natural. However the very purpose and goal of “reproductive rights”, so-called, is to ensure a woman of child-bearing age who is sexually active woman does not reproduce. This is accomplished by using birth control to avoid pregnancy and, if birth control fails, that is if a woman become pregnant, to abort the unwanted unborn child by taking drugs called abortifacients or by a procedure called an abortion. Aborting the unborn by either means is simply considered a back up form of birth control. To a “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocate the hallmark of a free society is a society that affords “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” to all women, especially the right to abortion. So they want the federal government to require all health insurance to cover the costs of women’s “Non-Reproductive Rights” or, if women have no insurance coverage, to pay for these costs.

    Abortion is legally protected in the United States, though it is never protected enough for “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates. For one thing, they are strongly in favor making late-term abortions legal. A late-term abortion is an abortion later in the pregnancy when the baby is more developed. “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates support late-term abortions even if the “fetus” may be “viable”, that is capable of living on outside the womb of the mother. We should all be aware that an overriding principle that “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates strongly hold and espouse is that no right and no value is greater or more important than a “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights”, in other words “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” trump all other rights and all other values. Because of this overriding principle, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” trump rights of parents to prevent their underage daughters firn having access to birth control and to an abortion. Because of this overriding principle, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates are against any granting unborn children any rights whatsoever, and, if an aborted child miraculously survives an abortion, they strongly support laws giving the attending physician the legal right to put the pesky but unfortunate survivor out of its misery.

    As with the irony that “reproductive rights”, so-called, really means and accurately describes “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights”, the irony that half of aborted babies are female and in “gender selective” abortions, well over half of aborted babies are female is totally lost on “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates. Yet they routinely impugn the motives of those who oppose them frequently accusing their opponents of being anti-women.

  • Michael I would like to see your letter printed in a couple of area papers!~

  • Please feel free to do so. I have reworded it a bit to read as follows:

    “Reproductive rights”, as Caroline Kennedy used this term in her address to the 2012 Democratic Party Convention, is both an incorrect and very deceptive term. The correct term, the term she should have used, is “Non-Reproductive Rights”. Women of child-bearing age who are sexually active routinely become pregnant at some point and have babies, that is they “reproduce”. This is both quite normal and quite natural. However the very purpose and goal of “reproductive rights”, so-called, is to ensure a woman of child-bearing age who is sexually active woman does not reproduce. This is accomplished by using birth control to avoid pregnancy and, if birth control fails, that is if a woman become pregnant, to abort the unwanted unborn child by taking drugs called abortifacients or by a procedure called an abortion. Aborting the unborn by either means is simply considered a back up form of birth control. To a “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocate the hallmark of a free society is a society that affords “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” to all women, especially the right to abortion. So they want the federal government to require all health insurance to cover the costs of women’s “Non-Reproductive Rights” or, if women have no insurance coverage, to pay for these costs.

    Abortion is legally protected in the United States, though it is never protected enough for “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates. For one thing, they are strongly in favor making late-term abortions legal. A late-term abortion is an abortion later in the pregnancy when the baby is more developed. “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates support late-term abortions even if the “fetus” may be “viable”, that is capable of living outside the womb of the mother. We should all be aware that an overriding principle that “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates strongly hold and espouse is that no right and no value is greater or more important than a “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights”, in other words “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” trump all other rights and all other values. Because of this overriding principle, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” trump rights of parents to prevent their underage daughters from having access to birth control and to an abortion. Because of this overriding principle, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” also trump religious rights. Under Obamacare the health insurance that religious employers, such as the Catholic Church, and employers opposed to abortion due to their religious beliefs offer their employees must fund the costs of “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights”. And not to be overlooked, because of this overriding principle, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates are against any granting unborn children any rights whatsoever, and, if an aborted child miraculously survives an abortion, they strongly support laws giving the attending physician the legal right to put the pesky but unfortunate survivor out of its misery.

    As with the irony that “reproductive rights”, so-called, really means and accurately describes “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights”, the irony that half of the estimated 1,500,000 babies aborted in the United States annually are female is totally lost on “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates. Yet though they are at least partially responsible for the destruction of 750,000 unborn females each year, “Women’s Non-Reproductive Rights” advocates not only routinely impugn the motives of those who oppose them frequently accusing their opponents of being anti-woman.

  • Michael NH Lawyer and Anzlyne:

    Every letter or phone call or e-mail is counted as 86 votes by those who are counting.The letter is actually long enough to be a column or an article in the newspaper. Letters are held to about 200 words. If the letter is really good, the editor will contact you and ask you to edit it, but usually, the paper will edit it themselves.

    Nonetheless, the secular editors are a captive audience. Get one editor thinking and his whole readership will learn something he knows.

    I, too, want to write using this comment.
    Thank you both. Michael for the column and Anzlyne for the idea.

    As a lawyer, you Michael, probably have the most chance to be published. It is the way the world works.

  • People should boycott buying that junk jewelry from qvc that is supposed to be reproductions of her mothers jewelry. This woman has made a lucrative career living off her dead parents! Most of these kennedys are trash, case in point that doglas kennedy kicking the nurse while attempting to take his newborn son out for a walk outside the hospital!! who would even think of this! Most of them cannot seem to integrate into society at any meaningful level, one wonders how they were raised.

Declaring War on the Church

Thursday, August 9, AD 2012

Well the above video from the Romney campaign removes all doubt that the HHS Mandate is going to be front and center in the fall campaign.  Obama was campaigning with Sandra Fluke yesterday, as Ed Morrissey at Hot Air details here.  Obama’s war on the Catholic Church, and his attempt to promote schism within the Church, may play a decisive role in the swing states like Ohio that will decide this election.

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  • Someone was there interviewing people as they left the Fluke/Obama rally. It’s an amusing video.

  • Thank you, Donald, for this post!

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  • Actually everything is A-OK.

    President Obama, Archbishop Dolan and very likely Mitt Romney will be attending the annual Al Smith Catholic Charities dinner together. It should be a great photo op and good laughs all around!

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  • The laugh will be on Obama at that dinner I suspect. Carter when he appeared in 1980 was booed while Reagan was received with warmth. We shall see.

  • I’ve got to tune out until election day. News that 2012 is shaping up to be a replay of 2008 is too depressing for words. I can’t begin to imagine why my fellow Americans voted for Mr. Obama to begin with, much less why they’d do so again. Here we are though, again watching a GOP challenger slip in the polls. This time though, it is astounding that we have an utter failure of policy and the President’s lead grows daily. Remind me again how voting for Santorum was foolish because he couldn’t win a General campaign.

    Give some good news guys. I’m sure I’m not the only loyal reader who needs it!

  • Sure, check out Rasmussen. He is the only pollster who polls 15000 people each month in a huge survey to determine party strength. His polls over the past month have usually shown Romney with about a two point lead:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    His party id poll currently shows the Republicans with a slight advantage over the Democrats, which is death for the Democrats in the coming election. Most other election polls that you see floating around are junk with no likely voter screen and usually something like a D6-D9 advantage for the Democrats in the percent of people sampled, which is simply absurd this year. Junk data makes for junk polls.

  • Wow. “Be Not Afraid!” was an eloquent choice for Mitt Romney to quote the Pope. Yes he is trying to appeal to Catholic voters, and I hope Catholic voters listen, stay informed be active and pray. Be Not Afraid.

    We can Not be afraid of what almost seems cataclysmic around us culturally and politically.

    When I hear those words and think of young Karol W lying face down hiding from Nazis – he knew what he was talking about when he said not to be afraid.
    And the brave people of Ukraine, Latvia — saints- who kept their faith in the face of real evil. The little prayer book in my purse is called “Mary Save Us” – smuggled out of Siberia– the author, Adele, a catechism teacher, did die in the camp.. in the 1950’s.

    I hope voters take this war on religion seriously. All you eastern europeans now in heaven pray for us.

  • Don,

    I’ve seen many other polls showing the opposite.

    I still think Obama is going to win in a squeaker, but I hope to be proven dead wrong.

  • Anzlyne: “All you eastern europeans now in heaven pray for us.” All the saints and angels in heaven, pray for us.”

  • Tito, you have to look at the poll internals. Gallup, which is the best poll after Rasmussen, shows Obama with a one or two point lead usually over the past 30 days. Polls which show Obama with a large lead are simply junk with too many Democrats sampled and usually no likely voter screen.

  • The communist government officials raped Lech Walesa’s daughters while he waited in the next room listening to their screams. Only the voters can stop Obama’s rape of little children’s conscience rights. Walesa knows the evil and Walesa is endorsing for Romney.

  • “The communist government officials raped Lech Walesa’s daughters while he waited in the next room listening to their screams.”

    Source Mary? I have never read that.

  • Gallup polls registered voters, not likely voters. Rasmussen is the major which uses a likely voter screen as a matter of course. I think NPR has attempted that as well.

  • Just which is the constituency to whom Sandra Fluke would appeal?

  • Correct Art. Assuming a two point decrease for Obama in a switch to a likely voter screen, Rasmussen and Gallup have been very close in their numbers this cycle.

  • “Just which is the constituency to whom Sandra Fluke would appeal?”

  • I got a call today from a pollster asking a bazillion questions about mainly local and state races, about name recognition for various local/state candidates and whether I had a favorable or unfavorable opinion of them, etc. I wasn’t completely decided about several of the races she asked about, and didn’t really have any opinion on some of the people she mentioned, but when she asked how likely I was to vote, I said “very likely” and when she asked whether I would vote for Romney or Obama I said “definitely Romney.” So maybe I just nudged the polls a tiny fraction of a point in the “red” direction….

  • I am interested in whether there is a poll taking demographic – if that is a correct term for polls about which I agree with G-Veg – that counts people who decline participation.

    A month or so ago, there was a call from someone who said they were from Gallup and I declined participation. Maybe caller ID would be helpful. I’ve seen some very long alpha-numeric ID’s, city-state ID’s, and other generic words (like service) and am wary.

    Just a glimmering hope that many may remain silent in resolve in this intimidating atmosphere, such as when using lawn signs or bumper stickers causes an occasion for sin for someone.

  • Lord Courtney famously remarked that there are lies, damned lies and statistic.

    It is worth noting that the noble lord was not merely an excellent mathematician (he was Senior Wrangler at Cambridge) but a President of the Royal Statistical Society (1897 – 1899)

  • War on the Church?

    Don’t worry about the Church.

    Worry about Obama.

    They declared war on drugs 50 or 60 years. Who won that one?

  • Donald McClarey says: “The communist government officials raped Lech Walesa’s daughters while he waited in the next room listening to their screams.”

    Source Mary? I have never read that.

    Ask Lech Walesa. Walesa is the most reliable source.

  • Link to where you read this Mary. If you do not I will delete the comments referencing this. I have a strong love of history and I will not allow statements like that to remain on this blog if they are not based on fact.

  • I am sorry Donald, I do mean to be rude. I saw Lech Walesa on television weeping, his hands to his eyes, confessing what he had endured, and this is what he confessed: that “the communists took his minor daugters into the next room and he heard them screaming”. This happened when the communists tried to break Walesa and Solidarnocs (sp) the Gdansk shipyard solidarity encouraged by John Paul II, something one does not forget decades later. The fact that Walesa is still alive and can vouch for the truth of this is relevant. Otherwise you may do as needs to be done.

  • That is fine Mary. I am sure you heard what you heard. I can find no reference to the incident but I will let the comments stand based upon what you heard Walesa say.

  • Thank you, Donald. I am thinking too, of Jerzy Popielusko (sp), the Cathoic priest whom the communists beat and drowned, who is now up for canonization. I am going to continue to look as this is very relevant to Obama’s election. Obama is a man who will not permit people the use of their free will and their conscience and I see no difference between a war on God, a war on the Catholic Church and a war on the individual person made in the image and likeness of God. There is a very enlightening episode by Fulton J. Sheen entitled “The Glory of Being an American.” Bishop Sheen says that persons make up “WE, the people”. Communism is made up of “the masses”. When the individual no longer has any value to the party, he ceases to exist. The communist party error in that logic is that the communist party did not give the human being existence and therefore cannot take existence away.

Pro-Abort Democrat Members of Congress Salute Radical Nuns

Thursday, July 5, AD 2012

Hattip to Matt Archbold at Creative Minority Report.  That the pro-abort Democrats in Congress salute the radical nuns of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious should come as no surprise to any sentient Catholic.  First, many members of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious have served as an unpaid resource for the Democrat Party for years, embracing every Leftist fad imaginable while studiously ignoring, or acting against, the fight against abortion waged by the Church.  Second, as I have written here, the Obama administration, as a campaign tactic, is promoting a schism within the Catholic Church. 

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  • What makes you so sure they’re an unpaid resource?

  • LCWR = Lesbian Coven of Witches in Rebellion

    Liberal Progressive Democrat = Murder and Libertine Sexual Pervert

  • Dial it back Paul. Such language does nothing useful to advance our cause.

  • Sorry, Donald. Sometimes I just feel like giving the left what they always give us. But doing that makes me as bad as them. -10 pts for me.

  • Let us thank God for small mercies. The American Ambassador in this our uncertain Kenya did stood for God when he resigned rather than Chair a Meeting of Homosexuals and Lesbians. There, Obama is sure determined to cause an schism in the Catholic Church. Let us wait and see if Jesus will permit him to suceed.

  • Don’t you think it is about time to follow through with the Catholic teaching that said it is a sin to join an organization that denies human rights? If it is a sin to join the Nazi Party and the KKK, isn’t it a sin to join the Democrat Party which denies the right to life of the unborn? Reference Life in Christ – Instructions in the Catholic Faith published in 1958, and Life in Christ – A Catholic Catechism for Adults, 5th Commandment.

  • The last Life in Christ was published 1995.

  • Read Revelation 2 today. This seems appropriate given the nature of the LCWR:

    “18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

    These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze. 19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.

    20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

    24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.’

    26 To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations — 27 that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’[b] —just as I have received authority from my Father. 28 I will also give that one the morning star. 29 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

  • And we have today’s reading from Amos.

    “4 Hear this, you who trample upon the needy, and bring the poor of the land to an end,
    5 saying, “When will the new moon be over, that we may sell grain? And the sabbath, that we may offer wheat for sale, that we may make the ephah small and the shekel great, and deal deceitfully with false balances,
    6 that we may buy the poor for silver and the needy for a pair of sandals, and sell the refuse of the wheat?”
    9 “And on that day,” says the Lord GOD, “I will make the sun go down at noon, and darken the earth in broad daylight.
    10 I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness on every head; I will make it like the mourning for an only son, and the end of it like a bitter day.
    11 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord GOD, “when I will send a famine on the land; not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD.
    12 They shall wander from sea to sea, and from north to east; they shall run to and fro, to seek the word of the LORD, but they shall not find it.”

    Many in the Church have given up teaching the word of God. Instead they seek to buy the poor with a false “social justice” which ultimately is only the “refuse of wheat” of a disordered political ideolgy.

    The true poverty in America today is the poverty of the word of Truth.

  • I hate to say it, but Rep. Walter Jones (NC) is a -cough-Republican, albeit a RINO. Locals call him “Congressman-for-life-Walter-Jones.” He makes a strong case for term limits, despite his “supposed” support for the military.

  • Yeah, I noticed him now that you mention it. Why in the world he agreed to be on the video I have no idea. As for as I know he has always been a solid vote against abortion and gay marriage. He is a Catholic convert. He has taken an anti-war stance so maybe he thought that the video was a tribute to peacenik nuns.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/160950/walter-jones-antiwar-republican-north-carolina#

  • “Love your neighbor as yourself.” The individual citizen, intimately involved with his neighbor, knows intimately the needs and the poverty of his neighbors and the charity of which he is endowed to ameliorate that poverty. The call to charity is a vocation issued by God to the hearts of his servants. Charity is an individual act of the free will and the free man’s conscience. The Virtue of Charity is a citizen’s response to his people. The Freedom of religion is inscribed in our First Constitutional Amendment to preserve one man’s relationship to his neighbor and his neighbor’s needs in response to his vocation to be a servant of God.
    NUNS ON A BUS are a contingent of uninformed, misguided and self-excommunicated, separated individuals who are encouraging communism. These advocate unauthorized use of tax dollars that belong to the citizen even as the taxes are administrated by the administration. In reality, and although these NUNS ON A BUS appear to be magnanimous and freedom loving sisters, their action denies to citizens the use of their own hard earned money, the joy of charity to be shared and the building of community.
    The NUNS ON A BUS need to get a hard earned job that does not promote communism.

  • I like what Mary DeVoe just wrote.

  • Paul: One Hail Mary in Latin. I am having trouble with Greek.

  • Amazing that the “separation of church and state” crowd isn’t hooting and hollering about this. I’m shocked.. shocked I tell you!

Fortnight For Freedom Day 3: Chester

Saturday, June 23, AD 2012

 

Their blood flowed as freely (in proportion to their numbers) to cement the fabric of independence as that of any of their fellow-citizens: They concurred with perhaps greater unanimity than any other body of men, in recommending and promoting that government, from whose influence America anticipates all the blessings of justice, peace, plenty, good order and civil and religious liberty.

John Carroll, first American bishop, on American Catholics in the Revolution

Something for the weekend.  Chester,  America’s unofficial national anthem during the American Revolution.   This fits in well with the Fortnight of Freedom proclaimed by our Bishops in resistance to encroachments by government on our religious liberty.

Written by William Billings in 1770, he added new lyrics to the song in 1778 and transformed it into a battle hymn for the Patriots in their war for independence.  The song reveals the strong religious element that was ever-present on the American side of the conflict, with most Patriots viewing the war as a crusade.

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  • Amen!

    Our Finding principles (Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Gettysburg Address, etc.) are not perfect. It’s just that they are the most perfect governing principles yet devised by fallen man.

    I received an email from a close friend giving the inspirational story of a school trip at the Iwo Jima Memorial. John Bradley’s son happened to be there and he explained what it means.

    The following says it all.

    Six young Marines raised our flag amid terrible combat, with (as always) an extra hand.

    “One thing I learned . . . look at the statue and count the number of ‘hands’ raising the flag, there are 13. When the man who made the statue was asked why there were 13, he simply said the 13th hand was the hand of God.”

    One Nation Under God.

  • That’s beautiful. But I can honestly say that I’ve never heard it or heard of it before, except for a dim reminiscence of some references to the phrase “New England’s God.”

    Thank you.

  • One of my goals in blogging, other than my main goal which is to have fun, is to remind Catholics and Americans of their history and their heritage. In the past 45 years much of it has been sent down a memory hole, and I play a small role in retrieving it.

  • I have never heard of this before. It is wonderful “and praise His name on every cord”

  • I had a trouble understanding Abigail.
    It sounded like “what men are not wont to do, they ought not to do, they know not what.” ??? or was it
    “when men know not what to do, they ought not to do, they know not what”

We Are Catholics And We Will Be Heard

Thursday, June 21, AD 2012

 

Bravo to The Catholic Association for the fine video above to help us kick off Fortnight For Freedom.  People don’t truly appreciate their freedom until it is threatened.  I think that is also true for many Catholics in regard to the Church.  Time to stand up.  A time for choosing is here.

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  • I just discovered your website and I live in Australia. Be great if there was a FFF campaign down here.
    A big issue for us (and I assume in your country) is the campaign against same sex marriage. There is a por SSM campaign at the moment that is cringeworthy in the way it has become trendy and a lot of celebrities have become involved. It is the “hula hoop” concept the latest fad. Roman Catholics (i like to put the Roman in front for extra emphasis as I strongly believe in the traditions of the Church) around the world need to fight this. I especially resent the way that “Marriage Equality” is the term used as opposed to same sex marriage. Talk about Newspeak!

  • Welcome Oz! We are all in this fight together, faithful Roman Catholics the world round!

  • One man and one fake wife or one woman and one fake husband has got to be perjury in a court of law. Perjury cannot be codified, sanctioned or legalized anynore than gay-marriage, as gay-marriage is assault and battery of the other. Religiously though, gay-marriage denies the human beings’ immortal soul.

  • Must Jehovah Witnesses employers include blood transfusions in coverage for Catholic employees? Can Muslim employers insist on Sharia law in the workplace? Must Christian Scientist employers provide health insurance?

    This slippery slope is coated with ice.

Fortnight For Freedom Day 1: Freedom is Not Just a Big Word

Thursday, June 21, AD 2012

 

Beginning for two weeks, up to Independence Day, the Bishops are having a Fortnight For Freedom:

On April 12, the Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty of the U.S.  Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issued a document, “Our First,  Most Cherished Liberty,” outlining the bishops’ concerns over threats to religious freedom, both at home and abroad. The bishops called for a “Fortnight for Freedom,” a 14-day period of prayer, education and action in support of religious freedom, from June 21-July 4.

Bishops in their own dioceses are encouraged to arrange special events to  highlight the importance of defending religious freedom. Catholic  institutions are encouraged to do the same, especially in cooperation  with other Christians, Jews, people of other faiths and all who wish to  defend our most cherished freedom.

The fourteen days from June  21—the vigil of the Feasts of St. John Fisher and St. Thomas More—to  July 4, Independence Day, are dedicated to this “fortnight for  freedom”—a great hymn of prayer for our country. Our liturgical calendar celebrates a series of great martyrs who remained faithful in the face  of persecution by political power—St. John Fisher and St. Thomas More,  St. John the Baptist, SS. Peter and Paul, and the First Martyrs of the  Church of Rome.  Culminating on Independence Day, this special period of prayer, study, catechesis, and public action would emphasize both our  Christian and American heritage of liberty. Dioceses and parishes around the country could choose a date in that period for special events that  would constitute a great national campaign of teaching and witness for  religious liberty.

We here at The American Catholic are participating in the Fortnight For Freedom with special blog posts on each day.  This is the first of these blog posts.

The video at the top of this post is a scene from the classic movie, The Devil and Daniel Webster (1941), based upon the short story by Stephen Vincent Benet, in which Daniel Webster bests Satan in a jury trial to save the soul of New Hampshireman Jabez Stone.   In this scene Daniel Webster addresses a jury of the damned, all villains of American history.  I have always thought this speech one of the most eloquent statements of what it means to be an American.

In regard to Freedom it reminds us that it is just not a word:  Freedom is not just a big word — it is the bread and the   morning and the risen sun. It was for freedom we came in boats and ships to these shores.  It has been a long journey, a hard one, a bitter one. There is sadness in being a man, but it is a proud thing, too.  Out of the suffering and the starvation, the wrong and the right, a new thing has come, a free man. When the whips of   the oppressors are broken, and their names forgotten and destroyed, free men will be walking and talking under a free star. Yes, we   have planted freedom here in this earth like wheat.  This is the priceless treasure that Goverment encroachments like the HHS Mandate begin to take away from us.

Go here to read the passage in the Stephen Vincet Benet’s short story.  Below is the scene as written in the screenplay:

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  • Defend Religious Liberty.

    Stop Tyranny.

    Defeat Obama.

  • Isn’t it ironic that Democrats are the most anti-freedom people around, from their support of slavery in the 1800s to their support of baby-murdering in the late 1900s and early 2000s? Having sold their souls to Satan, I suppose they have no other choice.

  • Freedom of religion lets us live by conscience.
    Freedom of worship is within ‘church’ walls, not the law. Until … such as places in the eastern world.
    Two weeks for special prayer for Christianity, whether or not locales have any plans to get people together to understand.

  • I will be saying the St. Michael Prayer, which Pope Leo XIII wrote after seeing a horrific vision of demons and St. Michael. Our country, the Catholic Church and the world certainly needs his intercession. We all need to be warriors now!

    Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

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  • Satan has no soul. Satan is a person as he testifies for himself, but Satan has no soul. Saint Michael, appearing to the children of Fatima, brought to them Holy Communion. Saint Michael bowed to the earth in their presence and confessed that he could not receive the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ. Satan, the Destroyer, liar and murderer, cannot be a citizen as he claims in the story The Devil and Daniel Webster, because a citizen constitutes a nation. Just being there as he claims, when the slaves were enslaved, does not constitute citizenship. Constituting the nation constitutes citizenship. Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, has a human, rational soul. Jesus Christ is Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. Because Jesus Christ is the Son of God, perfect innocence, perfect charity, the standard of Justice and mercy, Jesus Christ constitutes all nations, all sovereignty, and therefore, is a citizen of all nations, all people. Jesus Christ, as citizen of the universe, nation and the USA, cannot be denied access to the public square, the public square, Jesus’ God and Father created.
    When the Person of God, the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit, the Trinity of Persons, the first family, the community of LOVE, is returned to the public square, all freedom will reign. Viva Christo Rey
    The moral order is established by God. Jesus Christ lives the moral order.

  • Our US bishops have exercised, for the most part, silence regarding the Church’s truth, though hard sayings, regarding artificial contraception and abortion. The bishops, the USCCB, have not for many years exercised their so called American “freedom” and “freedom of conscience” regarding the Church’s doctrines. They have been afraid to speak the truth in love to Catholics or they have sold their souls to the liberal, often Judaized, philosophies. Fear and silence do not go together with truth and true freedom. Pope Gregory the Great famously said .. “If people are scandalized at the truth, it is better to allow the birth of scandal, than to abandon the truth” Here is what Saint Catherine of Siena said about silence. “I’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.” A follower of Christ is to be a bondslave of Christ.

    Now we are supposed to be rallying and considering “civil disobedience” in this “Fortnight of Freedom”, when the Americanist bishops and “American Catholics” for the cause of “freedom”, which is NOT the cause of Christ, and is NOT first obedience to God.

    Read what Pope Pius X said about Americanism and the Americanists. The founding of the USA was by those who believed in the principles of the Enlightenment. The principles of the Englightenment are anti-Christ and anti Christ toward Christ’s Catholic Church.

    Thomas Payne and Thomas Jefferson spoke of “freedom” not in Christ’s definition of “freedom” (the glorious freedom of the children of God) but in this worldly Englightenment ideas of freedom, and that is the way this Fortnight of Freedom is promoting “freedom.” This is not freedom under God. This is freedom above God.

    Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!

  • In a word, Jeannon, baloney. Try reading this passage from Leo XIII:

    ” Nor, perchance did the fact which We now recall take place without some design of divine Providence. Precisely at the epoch when the American colonies, having, with Catholic aid, achieved liberty and independence, coalesced into a constitutional Republic the ecclesiastical hierarchy was happily established amongst you; and at the very time when the popular suffrage placed the great Washington at the helm of the Republic, the first bishop was set by apostolic authority over the American Church. The well-known friendship and familiar intercourse which subsisted between these two men seems to be an evidence that the United States ought to be conjoined in concord and amity with the Catholic Church. And not without cause; for without morality the State cannot endure-a truth which that illustrious citizen of yours, whom We have just mentioned, with a keenness of insight worthy of his genius and statesmanship perceived and proclaimed. But the best and strongest support of morality is religion. She, by her very nature, guards and defends all the principles on which duties are founded, and setting before us the motives most powerful to influence us, commands us to live virtuously and forbids us to transgress. Now what is the Church other than a legitimate society, founded by the will and ordinance of Jesus Christ for the preservation of morality and the defence of religion? For this reason have We repeatedly endeavored, from the summit of the pontifical dignity, to inculcate that the Church, whilst directly and immediately aiming at the salvation of souls and the beatitude which is to be attained in heaven, is yet, even in the order of temporal things, the fountain of blessings so numerous and great that they could not have been greater or more numerous had the original purpose of her institution been the pursuit of happiness during the life which is spent on earth.

    5. That your Republic is .progressing and developing by giant strides is patent to all; and this holds good in religious matters also. For even as your cities, in the course of one century, have made a marvellous increase in wealth and power, so do we behold the Church, from scant and slender beginnings, grown with rapidity to be great and exceedingly flourishing. Now if, on the one hand, the increased riches and resources of your cities are justly attributed to the talents and active industry of the American people, on the other hand, the prosperous condition of Catholicity must be ascribed, first indeed, to the virtue, the ability, and the prudence of the bishops and clergy; but in so slight measure also, to the faith and generosity of the Catholic laity. Thus, while the different classes exerted their best energies, you were enabled to erect unnumbered religious and useful institutions, sacred edifices, schools for the instruction of youth, colleges for the higher branches, homes for the poor, hospitals for the sick, and convents and monasteries. As for what more closely touches spiritual interests, which are based upon the exercise of Christian virtues, many facts have been brought to Our notice, whereby We are animated with hope and filled with joy, namely, that the numbers of the secular and regular clergy are steadily augmenting, that pious sodalities and confraternities are held in esteem, that the Catholic parochial schools, the Sunday-schools for imparting Christian doctrine, and summer schools are in a flourishing condition; moreover, associations for mutual aid, for the relief of the indigent, for the promotion of temperate living, add to all this the many evidences of popular piety.

    6. The main factor, no doubt, in bringing things into this happy state were the ordinances and decrees of your synods, especially of those which in more recent times were convened and confirmed by the authority of the Apostolic See. But, moreover (a fact which it gives pleasure to acknowledge), thanks are due to the equity of the laws which obtain in America and to the customs of the well-ordered Republic. For the Church amongst you, unopposed by the Constitution and government of your nation, fettered by no hostile legislation, protected against violence by the common laws and the impartiality of the tribunals, is free to live and act without hindrance.”

    The hatred that some trad Catholics have for their own nation and our heritage of freedom as Americans is simply bizarre and has nothing to do with Catholicism.

  • Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, Pope Leo XIII wasn’t so much critical of the Republican system of secular government over these United States, as he was of installing such a system of government for the Church in these United States. Indeed, one might rightly argue that it is the liberals who want Church matters decided on by popular vote, as though the Church ought to be ruled by the “peepul”.

    Establishing Americanism as the Church government in America is obviously wrong. But having a Constitutional Republican government for secular society is exactly what has prevented secular government from telling the Church what to do or not do, and thus has enabled (or at least allowed) the Successors to the Apostles act like the Successors to the Apostles.

  • In a word, Mr. McClareey, baloney. Try reading this passage from Leo XIII Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae (1899).

    “Pope Leo identified three major erroneous views that served to dilute Catholicism in America. The first is the belief that “in order to more easily attract those who differ from her, the Church should shape her teachings more in accord with the spirit of the age and relax some of her ancient severity and make some concessions to new opinions.”

    And further, Mr. Baloney, your statement “The hatred that some trad Catholics have for their own nation and our heritage of freedom as Americans is simply bizarre and has nothing to do with Catholicism.” is bizaare and has nothing to do with Catholic conduct.

    “The second error condemned by Pope Leo was “that opinion of the lovers of novelty, according to which they hold such liberty should be allowed in the Church, that…allowance be granted the faithful, each one to follow out more freely the leading of his own mind and the trend of his own proper activity.” The pope was condemning the idea of private judgment being the supreme guide as to how one should live, and he was rejecting the idea that the Church should have no say over the consciences of men. The source of this error was the constitutional, enlightenment states that were growing up in the 1800s, and according to American history professor, author and Pulitzer prize winner, Joseph Ellis, the USA is an Enlightenment state. We see the Enlightenment’s imprint on the US in Thomas Jefferson’s famous quote inscribed in the Jefferson Memorial that “I have sworn on the alter of god, eternal hostility to every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

    “The Third error condemned was “an unwarranted importance to the natural virtues as though they better responded to the customs and necessities of the times.” The late Fr. John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary, states “In general, active virtues correspond to what is commonly associated with American activism.” The great Dominican Thomist, Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, explained in his monumental work, The Three Ages of the Interior Life, that Americanism was the revival of the spirit of “practical naturalism” which is “the negation of the spirit of faith in the conduct of life”. (Tan Books, 1989, vol 1. P. 275) He teaches that Americanism says that the passions are neither good nor bad, but that they “become so according to the intention of our will. They are forces to be utilized; they must not be mortified, but regulated and modulated.” (p. 276) Americanism resists efforts to “combat private judgment, self-will…[because to do so] is to place oneself in a state of servitude which destroys all initiative and makes a person lose contact with the world, which one ought not to scorn, but to ameliorate.” (p. 276).

    The above summarization of Testem

    At the root of Americanism is pride, a pride that says America is not only unique and special but that it is also the greatest. A pride that corrupts doctrine and says that America knows better than the Church and that the Church should learn from America. A pride that places loyalty to America and the USA before loyalty to the Church and the Holy Father. A pride that places being American before being Roman Catholic. This is what we may draw from Leo’s indication that Americanism is a rejection of the words and spirit of St. Jerome who speaking to Pope St. Damasus said “I acknowledge no other leader than Christ, am bound in fellowship with your Holiness; that is with the chair of Peter. I know that the church was built upon him as its rock, and that whosever gathereth not with you, scattereth.” It is the primacy of Christ and his Church, as well of the authority of the Holy Father, that is needed in the hearts of believers to keep unity. For, as Leo XIII continued, the “true church is one, as by unity of doctrine, so by unity of government.”

    The summarization of Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae is taken from a speech of David Wemhoff, “THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT AND THE NEW AMERICANISM”

    http://www.romancatholicreport.com/id172.html

  • Jeannon Kralj,

    Everything you quoted from Pope Leo XIII’s Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae confirms what I wrote: the Pope wasn’t criticizing the Constitutional Repubic that was the United States, but the application of “peepul” rule and popular opinion for Church government.

    Look at the statements in your comment:

    (1) “…The first is the belief that ‘in order to more easily attract those who differ from her, the Church should shape her teachings more in accord with the spirit of the age…'”

    (2) “The second error condemned by Pope Leo was ‘that opinion of the lovers of novelty, according to which they hold such liberty should be allowed in the Church…'”

    (3) “The Third error condemned was ‘an unwarranted importance to the natural virtues as though they better responded to the customs and necessities of the times…'”

    The Pope never criticized the United States herself as a Constitutional Republic. Rather, he criticized trying to apply a system of voting, popular opinion and relativism in place of the Church government that Jesus established.

    BTW, I love my country, but I love God first. So I take exception to these statements:

    “At the root of Americanism is pride, a pride that says America is not only unique and special but that it is also the greatest. A pride that corrupts doctrine and says that America knows better than the Church and that the Church should learn from America.”

    That’s not the Americanism I have or profess. Rather, the Americanism I have and profess is one where God is honored first, where Holy Mother Church occupies a central place in the public square, where free exercise of religion is sacrosanct, and where the country I love is restored to being the Christian Consitutional Republic that she once was. We can never be best or greatest except that God be first.

  • BTW, one other thing Jeannon. You correctly wrote incriticism of this idea: “America knows better than the Church and that the Church should learn from America.” The whole idea of of this fortnight for freedom prayer time is to combat this very notion.

    America does NOT know better than the Church, the indefectible Bride of Christ (though Barack Hussein Obama and Kathleen Sebelius think otherwise), and the Church, the indefectible Bride of Christ, ought NOT to learn anything from America (though LCWR and the other liberal Katholyks think otherwise) except perhaps what NOT to do.

  • Jeannon, when you quote papal documents actually quote them, and not glosses. There is nothing in Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae which supports the wacked out argument you are making.

    Here is what the Pope actually said:

    “From the foregoing it is manifest, beloved son, that we are not able to give approval to those views which, in their collective sense, are called by some “Americanism.” But if by this name are to be understood certain endowments of mind which belong to the American people, just as other characteristics belong to various other nations, and if, moreover, by it is designated your political condition and the laws and customs by which you are governed, there is no reason to take exception to the name. But if this is to be so understood that the doctrines which have been adverted to above are not only indicated, but exalted, there can be no manner of doubt that our venerable brethren, the bishops of America, would be the first to repudiate and condemn it as being most injurious to themselves and to their country. For it would give rise to the suspicion that there are among you some who conceive and would have the Church in America to be different from what it is in the rest of the world.”
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13teste.htm

    Paul, the Church teaches us how to go to Heaven, it teaches us very little about a wide range of subjects outside that sphere. The Church has never claimed to have all wisdom in secular matters, and Catholics who pretend otherwise, and I do not place you in that group, are very much mistaken.

  • Oh, and Jeannon, David Wemhoff who you quote seems to hold some nutty theories including that Pope Benedict is a tool of the United States:

    “But that is what conquerors do — they destroy the conquered and themselves if their conquest is not in the name of Jesus Christ and with the sign of the Cross. Munoz’ mind is enslaved by the Americans just as is the mind of Joseph Ratzinger. Benedict’s many speeches praising America are a, if not the, critical factor for the darkening of Munoz’ mind so as to accept error. Benedict, as leader of the Catholics, has been conditioned to be an American and to serve America, and so Catholics are bound to follow their leader into captivity. Ratzinger, now pope, as a type of Manchurian Candidate, is a symbol of America’s occupation of the Catholic Church.

    One of the great causes for hope and miracles of the day, in addition to the numbers of people entering the Church and growing it around the world even while its prelates are suffering through their American and Jewish captivity, is that the Holy Spirit still speaks through the papal encyclicals, such as Deus Caritas Est, which calls Catholics, and all people, to the truth and liberation from error. For error leads to sin, and the wages of sin is death. One need only consult antiquity and societies of the modern era grown too engrossed in serving wealth to see where it all leads. The unfortunate part is that many who consider themselves Catholic will go down with the sinking ship known as America. And, most importantly, many are in danger of the fires of hell because of the American ideas that come from the man who is pope.

    [1] “American(s)” refers to those who hold to the liberal, Enlightenment principles that created the country known as the USA which, with its Constitution and Declaration of Independence in large measure, shape the society known as America. One can be a citizen of the USA (that is, CUSA) and be a Catholic, and most CUSAs are Americans. One cannot be a Catholic and an American. To be an American is to believe in American principles before the teachings of the Church, or in other words to accept the Enlightenment ideals as superior to the teachings of the Faith.”

    http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3445145.0.html

    Rad Trads can be just as nutty as leftist Catholics.

  • I agree with your statement, Donald: “…the Church teaches us how to go to Heaven, it teaches us very little about a wide range of subjects outside that sphere. The Church has never claimed to have all wisdom in secular matters…” (e.g., US NRC oversight of reactor plant safety – clearly a non-spiritual issue.)

    As you correctly noted: “…I do not place you in that group…”

    I should have been more precise in my statements. It’s difficult getting all the nuances right. I did not intend to confuse rightful authority in secular matters that would devolve onto government with authority in spiritual matters that would devolve onto the Church.

  • “the Church teaches us how to go to Heaven, it teaches us very little about a wide range of subjects outside that sphere.”

    I believe the Church’s social teachings, which are founded on caring for “the common good” teach us much about a wide range of subjects outside the sphere of how to go to heaven. For example, the Church used rightly to teach us about usury and how wrong it is. Dante put sodomites and usurers in the same circle of hell. Usury seems to be the basis of the “capitalism” that we have in America. The basics of economics falls within the Church’s social teachings. Another example, the Church cares about just wages for the worker and just prices. It looks to me like the Left and the Right of all parties have been rewarding corporations for moving their industrial operations and jobs for Americans overseas, and they have been doing this for at least 40 years, possibly much longer.

    I do not consider myself a “Rad Trad” and I do not know what the terms “liberal” and “conservative” mean anymore.

    The one thing the Church as been way too silent about is that there have been dark forces and people for centuries, if not millennia, who have in stealth manipulated unjust wars and other deceptions for the purpose of forming a world government, which will nothing other than a death and slavery system for all. We know that one world government will come about from reading the Apocalypse. Who can make war with the beast? But we are to expose it, oppose it, and work to establish Christ the King’s rule on this earth as best we can.

    America was founded as a Protestant country. You say America is a Christian country. When I read the words of Christ, I simply cannot see that.

  • “You say America is a Christian country. When I read the words of Christ, I simply cannot see that.”

    No, I say that America was founded as a country of religious liberty, a concept that the Church has fully embraced.

    “For example, the Church used rightly to teach us about usury and how wrong it is.”

    Yep, and history moved on and the Church came to terms with interest and banks. The world is not static and neither is the teaching of the Church in areas not directly connected to dogma or revelation.

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm
    “basics of economics falls within the Church’s social teachings. ”

    Not really. Ecclesiastics tend to be as poor at economics as economists tend to be at theology. A recent example in support of this proposition:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2011/10/27/a-fisk-of-towards-reforming-the-international-financial-and-monetary-systems-in-the-context-of-global-public-authority/

    “It looks to me like the Left and the Right of all parties have been rewarding corporations for moving their industrial operations and jobs for Americans overseas, and they have been doing this for at least 40 years, possibly much longer.”

    Actually it is the law of production costs. Corporations tend to go where the work force is cheapest, other things being equal. The Chinese now are losing factories along their coast due to rising labor costs. Assuming that government fiat can alter the laws of economics has been a pleasing superstition for too many government officials and clerics down through the centuries.

  • Must Jehovah Witnesses employers include blood transfusions in coverage for Catholic employees? Can Muslim employers insist on Sharia law in the workplace? Must Christian Scientist employers provide health insurance?

    This slippery slope is coated with ice.

  • “the Church teaches us how to go to Heaven, it teaches us very little about a wide range of subjects outside that sphere”.

    I don’t think that is right. I see really no subjects outside that sphere. There is no part of me or my life than I can keep separate from the quest for Heaven. I can’t put my religion in my back pocket when I am thinking about nuclear reactors or anything else.

  • “I can’t put my religion in my back pocket when I am thinking about nuclear reactors or anything else.”

    You will find precious little in Church teaching as to how to construct nuclear reactors Anzlyne, or as to what the Hearsay Rule is, how best to utilize grazing fire in a fire fight, how to fill out the Estate Tax Return that will be one of my duties today or myriads of other topics. The confusion of religion with secular knowledge is never a good idea. Religion of course gives us our guide in morality, but too often clerics pretend to expertise in secular matters that they sadly lack, and not infrequently prove themselves buffoons in such areas to the same extent that non-clerics frequently do when they pontificate on matters of religion.

  • Hi Mr. Mc. I think we are coming from different angles here–both correct I think in what we mean.
    I think we agree that knowledge is not always wisdom, but that wisdom includes knowledge– and morality. Morality requires judgments (distinctions, decisions) based on something– and that “something” is found our religion- the foundational plank to base our lives’ actions and choices on.
    Like you, I don’t think the Bible, Tradition or the Teaching Authority of the Church try to teach us how to build a nuclear reactor. There are lots of things we can know HOW to do with or without revealed religion.
    I do think the wisdom of our religion can help us do what we can morally choose to do, better, having considered the ends, and the means to the ends. Consideration of our religion colors all of our decisions, even though it does not directly supply the ‘how to”

  • “Consideration of our religion colors all of our decisions, even though it does not directly supply the ‘how to””

    Writ large enough on big issues perhaps. My Catholicism however really does not impact my decision on how to apply the Hearsay Rule in court, or whether the Deadman’s Act is a good piece of public policy. On the other hand I think my Catholicism clearly impacts on my view of the sanctity of an oath taken in Court to tell the truth.

  • Yes. and I might add from your quote above:
    …”And not without cause; for without morality the State cannot endure- …. But the best and strongest support of morality is religion. She, by her very nature, guards and defends all the principles on which duties are founded, and setting before us the motives most powerful to influence us, commands us to live virtuously and forbids us to transgress.”

    Thank you so much- I thoroughly enjoy the discussion

  • Even the pagans can see the myth of America was founded as a Christian country on Christian principles.

    Note this article on a “secular humanist” site secularhumanism.org

    http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=fi&page=walters_32_4

    Once and for All, Is America a Christian Nation?
    The Myth of America’s Christian Heritage
    Kerry Walters

    Do not agree with Professor Walters completely, but he does provide us a much clearer picture of history. Note, in reading the article, that Catholics are not part of the early American “evangelicalism.”

    Catholics were allowed into the New World but were barely tolerated.

  • Hmm, Kerry Walters or Alexis De Tocqueville? I’m really having a hard time determining who might have a firmer grasp on America’s founding.

    In all seriousness, Walters’s grasp of history is almost as poor as David Barton, whom I critiqued here the other day. He cherrypicks select quotes and pretend that he has stockpiled evidence in his defense. If Walters had stopped at Jefferson and Franklin in his litany of heterodox Christians, he would have perhaps had a point. But just as Barton overstates his case with regards to Jefferson’s orthodoxy, Walters overstates his case with regards to the heterodoxy of the rest.

  • From Waller’s linked to article. “But the big players in the founding of the United States—such men as Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams, and probably Alexander Hamilton—weren’t.”

    Thomas Paine, the “filthy little atheist” as Teddy Roosevelt called him, was a bit player in the Revolution. Benjamin Franklin was a deist who had doubts about the divinity of Christ, but lacked evidence sufficient for him to venture a verdict. George Washington was a conventional Christian. Thomas Jefferson was a deist. James Madison really doesn’t give enough evidence from his writings to say whether he was a Deist or a Christian. John Adams was a Christian most of his life and had Unitarian leanings by the time of his death. Hamilton dabbled with deism as a young man but was an orthodox Christian by the time of his death.

Fortnight For Freedom

Sunday, May 27, AD 2012

 

 

 

The fight over the HHS Mandate is about to come to a boil.  In June the Bishops are going to have this document inserted in Mass bulletins throughout the nation which mentions the necessity of disobeying immoral laws in certain situations.

Some unjust laws impose such injustices on individuals and organizations that disobeying the laws may be justified.  Every effort must be made to repeal them.  When fundamental human goods, such as the right of conscience, are at stake, we may need witness to the truth by resisting the law and incurring its penalties.

I am almost thankful to President Obama.  Due to his blind hubris, his willingness to ride roughshod over American liberties for cheap perceived political advantage, he has awakened the Church in this country from her slumber, and reminded Catholics that they are part of the Church Militant here on Earth. 

Beginning for two weeks, up to Independence Day, the Bishops are having a Fortnight For Freedom:

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  • Donald,

    “I am almost thankful to President Obama.”

    I have thought the same thing many times, God’s timing is not our timing, his presidency was a much needed wake-up call for many lukewarm people. But OH! I’d vote for a ham sandwich before I’d vote for Obama.

    And I love how you tip-toe’d around your point in the next sentence — NOT! 😀

  • Fortnight4freedom.org

    Uplifting and renewing as Easter season closes and Ordinary Time returns.

    Your ‘Elijah on Mount Carmel Year’ has to be reality, after the Rip Van Winkle one.

  • “God’s timing is not our timing”

    Or in the words of Richard Hovey, greatest poet of Illinois,( sorry Mr. Sandburgh!):

    Unmanifest Destiny

    To what new fates, my country, far
    And unforeseen of foe or friend,
    Beneath what unexpected star
    Compelled to what unchosen end.

    Across the sea that knows no beach,
    The Admiral of Nations guides
    Thy blind obedient keels to reach
    The harbor where thy future rides!

    The guns that spoke at Lexington
    Knew not that God was planning then
    The trumpet word of Jefferson
    To bugle forth the rights of men.

    To them that wept and cursed Bull Run,
    What was it but despair and shame?
    Who saw behind the cloud the sun?
    Who knew that God was in the flame?

    Had not defeat upon defeat,
    Disaster on disaster come,
    The slave’s emancipated feet
    Had never marched behind the drum.

    There is a Hand that bends our deeds
    To mightier issues than we planned;
    Each son that triumphs, each that bleeds,
    My country, serves It’s dark command.

    I do not know beneath what sky
    Nor on what seas shall be thy fate;
    I only know it shall he high,
    I only know it shall be great.

    Richard Hovey

  • What is the response of that pseudo-group, Catholics United? Will their liberal members have the hubris to balk about balking?

  • A THING IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED SINCE THE ELDER DAYS…
    …THE ENTS ARE GOING TO WAKE UP, AND FIND THAT THEY ARE STRONG.

  • Religious freedom has been under attack for some time, though the attackers claim that this is not their aim.

    People need to wake up and speak out about what is going on. I hope everyone will get the courage to speak out, through blog posts or Facebook shares, every day up to and including July Fourth.

  • It appears as though the liberal agenda, in the name of evolving society, is attempting to slide their Europeanizing mindset into place under the many smokescreen guises, all the while abolishing our GREAT CONSTITUTION

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For Greater Glory: God’s Timing

Sunday, May 27, AD 2012

 

The film, For Greater Glory, the heroic story of the Cristeros who fought for the Church and religious liberty in the twenties of the last century in Mexico, is opening on June 1.  Go here  to read my post on the film.  The National Catholic Register’s Tim Drake has an interview with the producer of the film, Pablo Jose Barroso.  Note what the producer says about the timing of the film in regard to the struggle for religious liberty the Church is waging today in our country:

Tell me about the film.

It’s a great experience because it takes you to that period and beautiful  country, with its art and settings. It’s a story of hope, of freedom and of  heroism. The film tells the story of the pacifist movement, a group of people  who were trying to change things in Congress peacefully, as well as the story of  a former general who is recruited to organize the Cristeros into an army. You  also see several of the martyrs, including Blessed Jose Sanchez del Rio. In the  end, it’s about people standing up against oppression and dying for Christ. My  hope is that it will give viewers great hope.

What do you hope viewers take away from the film?

I think that, culturally, we’re not being congruent with our religious  beliefs. We are not standing up for our faith. We’ve been tolerating things that  are wrong. It seems as if it’s easier for people to be against God than to claim  him as their Creator. In this Year of Faith [to begin in October], the Holy  Spirit can help people to be more faithful. If only one person who doesn’t  believe in God sees this film and reflects on him, that is my best hope.

Given the current fight for religious freedom going on in the U.S., do  you see the release of the film as God’s timing?

Yes, it was frustrating and difficult not to have the film released when I  wanted it, but the Lord’s time is not our time. The movie is about conscience.  No one ever wins when religion is oppressed. As believers we need to band  together. This is the perfect time for this film. Hopefully, it will help wake  people up to the things that are taking us from God. In the end, this will harm  us. We have to be faithful.

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  • I have met Mexican Catholics who never heard of this event. It’s not taught in their schools. When I took History of Latin America in college, the class had a Marxist bent, and the nature of this war was misrepresented and downplayed. I didn’t know about it until much later. When one abandons the truth, it’s still there, and so it must be hidden lest it become a reminder of the falsehood one has embraced.

Georgetown: the Anti-Catholic Catholic University

Monday, May 21, AD 2012

William Peter Blatty, well-known novelist, author of the Exorcist, a Georgetown graduate, class of 1950, is spearheading an effort to force Georgetown to reform, or to cease to call itself Catholic.  Here is his letter:

Dear Friends,

I invite you today to join me in The Father King Society to Make Georgetown Honest, Catholic, and Better by signing on to a very special effort here. I ask you also to curtail your donations to Georgetown University for one year.

The late Jesuit Father Thomas M. King was a good friend. I had the privilege of lecturing his theology class, which started the rumor that he had inspired my priestly character in The Exorcist. Father King inspired many other things; and our effort now.

On May 5, 2012, in a speech to American bishops, Pope Benedict XVI called on America’s Catholic universities to reaffirm their Catholic identity. The Pope noted the failure of many Catholic universities to comply with Blessed John Paul II’s apostolic constitution Ex corde Ecclesiae. The Pope said that preservation of a university’s Catholic identity “entails much more than the teaching of religion or the mere presence of a chaplaincy on campus.”

For 21 years now. Georgetown University has refused to comply with Ex corde Ecclesiaie (“From The Heart of the Church”), and, therefore, with canon law. And, it seems as if every month GU gives another scandal to the faithful! The most recent is Georgetown’s obtuse invitation to Secretary Sebelius to be a commencement speaker.

Each of these scandals is proof of Georgetown’s non-compliance with Ex corde Ecclesiae and canon law. They are each inconsistent with a Catholic identity, and we all know it. A university in solidarity with the Church would not do these prideful things that do so much harm to our communion. (You can pen a heartfelt letter to the Cardinal Archbishop of Washington and the Holy Father offering your own experience here.)

In the months to come, The Father King Society will ask Georgetown and the Church for explanations and decisions. In 1991, in an effort led by courageous Georgetown students, my dearly missed classmate, GU Law Center Prof. Richard Alan Gordon, took the awesome step of submitting a canon law petition asking the Church to remove Georgetown’s right to call itself Catholic. Then Dean of Students John J. DeGioia had authorized the funding of a pro-abortion student advocacy group. A contemporaneous secret memorandum from the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities to the presidents of all Jesuit institutions showed us that Dr. DeGioia’s decision was part of a larger scheme: GU was to be the dissident leader for others to follow. Dean Gordon’s effort was provocative and drastic, but within months of the filing, Rome required Georgetown to reverse itself, and Georgetown did.

Father Tom King was actively involved and submitted an essay to be used in support of the canon law action. (We post it here.) Soon after the 1991 “GU Choice” funding, a meeting took place on campus that collected the students, teachers, alumni and parents who had reacted to the University’s scandal in diverse ways. Fr. King listened intently, and then the mild-speaking priest told us of a call the night before from his brother, also a priest. His brother had said, “Tom, you have to choose sometimes — either you fish or cut bait.” Father King told us that he had decided to fish. And now, at long last, so have I. I ask you to join us!

For almost two decades, The Cardinal Newman Society has pursued with true inspiration and devotion its unique ministry to strengthen Catholic higher education in America. CNS has agreed to help us. Likewise, the St. Joseph’s Foundation, a Texas charity that focuses on canon law, has been a source of valuable information. We appreciate the help of both apostolates.

We may choose to file a canon action again, one much larger in scale and seeking alternative forms of relief that will include, among others, that Georgetown’s right to call itself Catholic and Jesuit be revoked or suspended for a time. We will ask for lesser relief as well. Of course, what we truly seek is for Georgetown to have the vision and courage to be Catholic but clearly the slow pastoral approach has not worked. I invite you to sign the “Mandate of Procurator” on this website so that I, and other alumni, parents, teachers and students, may represent you in this special and historic Church petition.

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  • This is a sad article for me. I didn’t realize that Father King had passed away. He was a good priest. He was one of those old people who can relate to the young in a natural way. He had a taste for Teilhard that I never understood, but he was as orthodox as the day is long.

    I remember one day when I and three other guys were the only attendees at a Mass of his. There was a point in the text where he was supposed to make a reference to “brothers and sisters”. He said “brothers”. I got such a kick out of that.

    For so long it’s been a truism that most Jesuits are unimpressive, but the good ones are fantastic. I hope the order has seen an influx of new, devout priests the way some other institutions have. It’d be a tremendous loss if the last pillars of Jesuit greatness disappear and go unreplaced.

  • It is sad how at a so called catholic university you get kicked out of a room for calling out a tyrant murderer. It is a lot more like the fake catholic church in China which is in accord with the government and calls itself catholic but is not in accordance with the Vicar of Christ. Liars need to be pointed out and cleared from the ranks.

  • As a member of the class of ’62 I just skipped my 50th Reunion for all of the reasons stated by Mr. Blatty. I believed that I would have been a hypocrite to attend and appear by my presence to be tacitly condoning Georgetown’s steady march to the ‘dark side’. My only comment to my friends is that “Georgetown has lost its soul”

Notre Dame Faculty Attacks Bishop Jenky

Wednesday, April 25, AD 2012

 

In a prior post, which may be read here, I detailed a speech by Bishop Daniel Jenky of the Peoria Diocese, my Bishop,  in which he blasted the attack of the Obama administration on religious liberty.  Bishop Jenky is a graduate of Notre Dame and was ordained as a priest of the Congregation of Holy Cross, the Catholic religious order which runs Notre Dame.  Bishop Jenky is quite fond of Notre Dame and often speaks of his days there.  He serves on the Board of Fellows of Notre Dame.  Professor Charles E. Rice, Law School Professor Emeritus at Notre Dame, details what happened at Notre Dame after Bishop Jenky’s speech:

On April 14, Bishop Daniel R. Jenky, C.S.C., of Peoria, Illinois, delivered a courageous homily at Mass during “A Call to Catholic Men of Faith.”  Bishop Jenky said, “This fall, every practicing Catholic must vote, and must vote their Catholic consciences, or by the following fall our Catholic schools, our Catholic hospitals, our Catholic Newman Centers, all our public ministries—only excepting our church buildings—could easily be shut down.  Because no Catholic institution, under any circumstance, can ever cooperate with the intrinsic evil of killing innocent human life in the womb.”

Forty-nine members of the Notre Dame faculty denounced Bishop Jenky in a Letter to the  University President, Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees, Richard C. Notebaert.  The Letter called on them to “definitively distance Notre Dame from Bishop Jenky’s incendiary statement.”  The signers, said the Letter, “feel” that Bishop Jenky should resign from the University’s Board of Fellows.

The faculty Letter claims that Bishop Jenky “described President Obama as ‘seem[ing] intent on following a similar path’ to Hitler and Stalin.”  They accuse Bishop Jenky of “ ignorance of history, insensitivity to victims of genocide, and absence of judgment.”  The astonishingly simplistic and defamatory character of those accusations can be appreciated only by looking at what Bishop Jenky actually said:

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  • If I were Jenky, I would distance myself from Notre Dame…weren’t they the “Catholic” university that invited Obama to speak? Their Catholicity is questionable in my mind.

  • As in my mind Sister Colleen. In 2009 Notre Dame awarded an honorary degree to Obama and had him speak at commencement, in direct defiance of the Bishops:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/03/20/notre-dame-honors-pro-abort/

  • Notre Dame faculty and the American people condemn Bishop Jenky because of his hate speech. Name calling is not a positive or helpful method of communication. Think of all the terrible things the Bishop,the Pope and other Catholics have and can be called and you will realize the error of his ways.

  • “Notre Dame faculty and the American people condemn Bishop Jenky because of his hate speech”

    Don, nice of you to speak for all of the Notre Dame faculty and all of the American people. Hate speech is not defined as speech that Don Morgn opposes. The only thing that Bishop Jenky was guilty of was “speaking truth to power” in the trite pc phrase.

  • It is NOT hate speech to condemn abortion, contraception, fornication, adultery, and homosexual activity. This is essentially what St. Paul did in 1st Corinthians 6:9-10. For his efforts the Romans beheaded him. Who really was hateful?

  • So, Don-who-needs-to-buy-a-vowel, by that same logic, you’d say Jesus was crucified for His “hate speech.”

    ‘Nuff said, I think.

  • I hope the good Bishop tells these folks to pound sand.

  • Jesus did engage in hate speech – against idolatry, depravity, perversion and every sort of sinful wickedness. He was quite pointed with all the “right thinking people” of his day – Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, etc. – who thought just like today’s well educated liberals that they “knew” what was good for everybody. Indeed, those who love sin cannot stand the kind of talk that Jesus gave.

  • Notre Dame, along with Georgetown and a few other “Catholic” schools, have long since strayed by taking a more secular path, promoting “diversity” and supporting social issues that are anathema to the Church. Jenky would do well to quit ND altogether. I hope the rest of the bishops rally around him.

    In the words of Chesterton:

    “From all that terror teaches, from lies of tongue and pen,
    From all the easy speeches that comfort cruel men,
    From sale and profanation of honor and the sword
    From sleep and from damnation, deliver us, good Lord.”

  • Of course Obama is nothing like Hitler or Stalin.

    He’s more like Otto von Bismarck.

  • I wasn’t aware of Bismarck’s Kulturkampf against the Catholic Church. Why is none of this taught in the history classes of public schools?

    From wikipedia:

    Bismarck launched an anti-Catholic Kulturkampf (“culture struggle”) in Prussia in 1871. In its course all the Prussian bishops and many priests were imprisoned or exiled.[26] Prussia’s population greatly expanded in the 1860s and now was one-third Catholic. Bismarck believed that the Catholic Church held too much political power; he was further concerned about the emergence of the Catholic Centre Party (organised in 1870). With support from the anticlerical National Liberal Party, which had become Bismarck’s chief ally in the Reichstag, he abolished the Catholic Department of the Prussian Ministry of Culture. That left the Catholics without a voice in high circles. In 1872, the Jesuits were expelled from Germany. More severe anti-Roman Catholic laws of 1873 allowed the Prussian government to supervise the education of the Roman Catholic clergy, and curtailed the disciplinary powers of the Church. In 1875, civil ceremonies were required for weddings, which could hitherto be performed in churches. The Catholics reacted by organizing themselves; they strengthened the Centre Party. Bismarck, a devout pietistic Protestant, was alarmed that secularists and socialists were using the Kulturkampf to attack all religion. He abandoned the Kulturkampf in 1878 to preserve his remaining political capital; indeed, he needed the Centre Party votes in his new battle against socialism. Pius IX died that same year, replaced by a more pragmatic Pope Leo XIII who negotiated away most of the anti-Catholic laws.[27][page needed][28][page needed]

  • I remember Bishop Jenky, before he became bishop, while still rector of Sacred Heart ( I think he was anyway). He was full of joy and radiated Christ like no other. My kids loved him ( which was no easy feat as they were naturally resistant to clergy as teenagers). I also observed his homilies were Christ oriented, not the usual pc stuff given by some of the other csc priest. Praise God for him and others who are willing to shine the light of truth!

  • We have seen it over and over again: Gallicanism, conciliarism, Josephism, laicism, Kulturkampf, Cristeros War, communism, sexual revolution.

    I’d like to say the Church bounces back stronger every time. In reality, each one of these episodes takes a piece out of her. That is why Christ must come again.

  • The only question I have is, “What took them so long?”

    Apparently, the progressive propaganda glossary has evolved – There’s that word, again!

    In 2012, the drones term preaching the Gospel: “incendiary.” Formerly, Clinton’s press secretary, Joe Lockhart, used the phrase “ancient religious hatred.”

    One lesson learned. I knew the clueless college profs teach their minions what to think, not how to think. Now, I see that credentialed cretins themselves don’t know how to think, either.

  • Ignatius of Antioch, whose life covered the second half of the first century, wrote “”Follow the Bishop, all of you, as Jesus Christ follows his Father, and the presbyterium as the Apostles. As for the deacons, respect them as the Law of God. Let no one do anything with reference to the Church without the Bishop. Only that Eucharist may be regarded as legitimate which is celebrated with the bishop or his delegate presiding. Where the Bishop is, there let the community be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” Epis Smyrn 8,1-2″ and the same teaching can be gathered from all the old holy fathers and catholic doctors, from the apostles’ time down to our own day.

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  • Those who get worked up about comparing Obama to Hitler and call his talk hate speech ought to think before they write. The analogy does not compare Mr Obama’s policies to the genocide of Hitler it compare their policies towards religion. That is a valid comparison. If the good bishop would have compared validly Obama’s religious policy to that of the leaders of the French Revolution that would have worked also but it is somehow off limits to compare policies to those of Hitler.

  • I think what made them angrier than anything else was the fact that Bishop Jenky unashamedly proclaimed the Gospel of Jesus Christ by stating that Jesus Christ rose from the dead and is therefore the Son of God He claimed to be. Just try saying that to a few liberals if you want to see their heads start spinning and green vomit start to come out of their mouths.

  • Don

    A modest proposal.

    The Congegation of the Holy Cross could suggest to Rome that that their borther Daniel Jenky Be amde a titular Archbishop and appointed President the University of Notre Dame. It may take him a few years but no one would doubt the School is Our Ladies.

  • I like it Hank, except that he would no longer be my Bishop and I would hate to see him go!

  • Readers of this thread may find interest in the short book: How Do You Kill 11 Million People? by Andy Andrews. It’s a recent NYT best seller available on Amazon, et al. In the book Andrew succinctly explains tactics employed by the Nazis to lull an ostensibly God-fearing and altruistic German populace into a mass state of apathy and denial as freedoms were stripped-away, the Holocaust was engineered and a world war ensued. His premise is that without vigilant and informed citizens demanding integrity and accountability from their leaders, a similar loss of freedom may one day happen here or anywhere. Perhaps that day is already here, and instances such as this-with the reactions imbued-are proof.

  • Fire the Forty-Nine!

  • What did Bishop Jenky say?

    “Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.
    In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, Barack Obama—with his radical, pro abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path”.

    Hitler and Stalin do NOT belong in the same speech or in any comparison with President Obama! If he or anyone else do not understand why, they should return to school and study the political and military history of the 20th century. Sorry if you do not understand that.

  • Don Maswell,

    You don’t get it. Obama is just like Hitler – supporting baby murdering to the tune of 1 million per year.

    Hilter, Stalin, Robespierre, Obama – they are all antichrists.

  • Dial it back Paul. Don, here is the entire quote:

    “Remember that in past history other governments have tried to force Christians to huddle and hide only within the confines of their churches like the first disciples locked up in the Upper Room.

    In the late 19th century, Bismark waged his “Kultur Kamp,” a Culture War, against the Roman Catholic Church, closing down every Catholic school and hospital, convent and monastery in Imperial Germany.

    Clemenceau, nicknamed “the priest eater,” tried the same thing in France in the first decade of the 20th Century.

    Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.

    In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, Barack Obama – with his radical, pro abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path.”

    The statement of the Bishop is completely accurate. Under the vision of the Obama administration the Catholic Church, and all churches which oppose him, are to be restricted to conducting services and submitting themselves to government control in all other matters. The point that the Bishop was making is that this type of “religious freedom” was granted to some churches by both Hitler and Stalin, which is also completely accurate. Of course critics of this part of the Bishop’s speech conveniently overlook the references to Bismark and Clemenceau since those references make clear the point the Bishop was making and spoil the fake outrage of critics to the mention of Hitler and Stalin.

  • Vincednt: Obama is not done with us yet. Hitler and Stalin started by taking power over the church and ended by killing millions of people.
    Don: Good thinking.

  • Vincent: I am sorry I fumbled your name

  • I used to be proud of the many ND graduates from our family, but I am so disillusioned by recent ND anti-Catholic positions, that we will no longer fund ND. Also, are actively encouraging other alumni and family members to do the same.

    Pray for those in leadership positions at ND. Ask our Lady’s intersession with Jesus Christ, her son, to redeem their minds, their hearts and their souls.

    God forgive them for they know not what they do!

    Aloha ke Akua
    Malia

  • “Under the vision of the Obama administration the Catholic Church, and all churches which oppose him, are to be restricted to conducting services and submitting themselves to government control in all other matters”.

    Trash talk like the big Nazi lie! PROVE IT.

    If you really believe this, I pity you and will pray that you come to your senses.

  • Don, argument is so much more convincing when one uses facts rather than bluster. Go to the link below where the Bishops cite chapter and verse:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/04/13/our-most-cherished-freedom/

    Go to the link below to read an address by Pope Benedict where he cites his concerns about religious freedom in the US:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/01/20/pope-benedict-religious-freedom-under-threat-in-america/

    Go here for an explanation of the distinction between freedom of religion and freedom of worship:

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/02/20/father-barron-explains-what-the-obama-administration-means-by-freedom-of-worship/

  • Don Maswell, you are wrong, The Obama Administration’s understanding of the First Amendment’s free exercise clause is that it affords no protection against the application of general laws outside of the performance of religious rituals. This means, of course, that all churches are subject to government control in all other matters. Sadly, this is not an idiosyncratic view of the free exercise clause, whose reach has long confused liberal jurists mindful of the establishment clause. The words of the free exercise clause plainly suggest a fairly broad application, but the Left’s expansive misunderstanding of the establishment clause has caused it to have a neutered understanding of the free exercise clause. This is not trash talk. This is a fact.

  • The word catholic (little c) means universal, as in diverse, or encompassing many points of view. Having one Church means we are united in the core, and welcome all in the non-essentials, which are many. Catholics are Republican and Democrat, members of Pax Christi and of the armed forces, high tax people, free marketers, etc.

    It is puzzling that the very same academics that claim diversity and a variety of philosophies reject a traditional Catholic point of view. Or are they modernists that believe that their role is “creative destruction of the status quo” to implement a totalitarian vision based on the bold quest for power alone? Who is the uber-mench (Nietzche’s over-man)? Is the only crime left to oppose him?

  • Where’s Jenkins?

  • Don’t abandon Notre Dame. Fight for her.

  • “Or are they modernists that believe that their role is “creative destruction of the status quo” to implement a totalitarian vision based on the bold quest for power alone? Who is the uber-mench (Nietzche’s over-man)? Is the only crime left to oppose him?”

    Here is their god and the efforts this god will make to retain power:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304723304577368280604524916.html

  • More idiocy:

    http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/bishop-jenkys-assessment-of-religious-liberty-battle-raises-question-about

    The whole progression if Obamacare, from one-party rule, in-paarty bullying and bribery and obvious vioation of long-sacred rights, is a repeat of the Reichstag 1930-31. the only thing missing is Ludendorff (although Jimmy Carter would make a good stand-in if we could find a funny hat.)

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  • Marie, we WILL fight for ND with our prayers, but we will NOT contribute our $$$ to an anti-Catholic faculty. If ND allows their faculty to oppose the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Church, then we feel obligated to withdraw our support of ND’s anti-Catholic faculty by ending our alumni funding. Sorry, but our conscience demands that we fight this anti-Catholic movement with everything we have, i.e. prayers AND $$$.

    Malia

  • The Pastor at my church St Michael the Archangel (Society of St Pius X) Farmingville NY read Bishop Jenky words today. Hopefully the Catholics are starting to wake up with whats happening in our country and do something. Vote Vote Vote!

  • Bravo Don. My priest at Saint Pats in Dwight, Illinois defended the Bishop today. I have almost doubled my annual diocesan contribution as a sign of support for the Bishop. We have a long way to go, but some of the steel of the old Church Militant is beginning to come back. Nothing like a whiff of persecution to remind Catholics what a treasure we have in Holy Mother Church.

  • Take a look at the actual titles of those ND professors who chose to sign the letter. There are only three that have anything to do with Theology or Philosophy. The rest are simply malcontents who prefer to push their secular agenda. There are absolutely phenomenal, pious, and devout students and faculty at ND but they often are not heard from.

    By contrast, look at the heavy hitters from ND that signed this strong condemnation of Obama’s assault on religious liberty: (names follow the article)
    UNACCEPTABLE
    FEBRUARY 21, 2012

    The Obama administration has offered what it has styled as an “accommodation” for religious institutions in the dispute over the HHS mandate for coverage (without cost sharing) of abortion-inducing drugs, sterilization, and contraception. The administration will now require that all insurance plans cover (“cost free”) these same products and services. Once a religiously-affiliated (or believing individual) employer purchases insurance (as it must, by law), the insurance company will then contact the insured employees to advise them that the terms of the policy include coverage for these objectionable things.
    This so-called “accommodation” changes nothing of moral substance and fails to remove the assault on religious liberty and the rights of conscience which gave rise to the controversy. It is certainly no compromise. The reason for the original bipartisan uproar was the administration’s insistence that religious employers, be they institutions or individuals, provide insurance that covered services they regard as gravely immoral and unjust. Under the new rule, the government still coerces religious institutions and individuals to purchase insurance policies that include the very same services.
    It is no answer to respond that the religious employers are not “paying” for this aspect of the insurance coverage. For one thing, it is unrealistic to suggest that insurance companies will not pass the costs of these additional services on to the purchasers. More importantly, abortion-drugs, sterilizations, and contraceptives are a necessary feature of the policy purchased by the religious institution or believing individual. They will only be made available to those who are insured under such policy, by virtue of the terms of the policy.
    It is morally obtuse for the administration to suggest (as it does) that this is a meaningful accommodation of religious liberty because the insurance company will be the one to inform the employee that she is entitled to the embryo-destroying “five day after pill” pursuant to the insurance contract purchased by the religious employer. It does not matter who explains the terms of the policy purchased by the religiously affiliated or observant employer. What matters is what services the policy covers.
    The simple fact is that the Obama administration is compelling religious people and institutions who are employers to purchase a health insurance contract that provides abortion-inducing drugs, contraception, and sterilization. This is a grave violation of religious freedom and cannot stand. It is an insult to the intelligence of Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith and conscience to imagine that they will accept an assault on their religious liberty if only it is covered up by a cheap accounting trick.
    Finally, it bears noting that by sustaining the original narrow exemptions for churches, auxiliaries, and religious orders, the administration has effectively admitted that the new policy (like the old one) amounts to a grave infringement on religious liberty. The administration still fails to understand that institutions that employ and serve others of different or no faith are still engaged in a religious mission and, as such, enjoy the protections of the First Amendment.

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    Fritz Duda Family Chair in Law Notre Dame Law School
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    Bettex Chair Professor Emeritus
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Remember Rome, Mr. Obama!

Tuesday, April 24, AD 2012

 

 

Hattip to Patrick Archbold at Creative Minority Report.   A fiery speech delivered by Archbishop Robert J. Carlson of the Saint Louis Archdiocese at the Missouri State Capitol on March 27, 2012, calling for defiance of the HHS Mandate, and a superb ringing defense of religious liberty:

 

So Jesus said to them: “Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God.” (Mt 22:21/Mk 12:17/Lk 20:25)

My brothers and sisters, we stand here today because of an alarming and serious matter that strikes at our fundamental right to religious freedom. The federal government – which was formed to be “of the people, by the people, and for the people” – has decided to tell some of those people that we are free to hold our faith, but we will be required to deny it in practice. We are here to let the government know that we will render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, but we will NOT render unto Caesar what belongs to God!

In late January, the Department of Health and Human Services announced that almost all employers — including Catholic employers – would be forced to offer their employees health coverage that includes contraception, sterilization and potentially abortion-inducing drugs. This is in direct contradiction to the teachings of the Catholic faith.

 Recognizing this as a grave threat to religious liberty, many people spoke out against the Mandate.

In response to this reaction, President Obama’s Administration announced a so-called “compromise” in early February. Now, instead of the Catholic Church being required to pay for contraception, sterilization and potentially abortion-inducing drugs, the insurance companies will be required to provide those services free of charge.

We need to say loud and clear: Mr. President, there’s no such thing as a free lunch! Contraception, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs aren’t free. Someone has to pay for them. If the insurance company has to provide them, the cost will be passed on to the consumer one way or another –that’s how the economy works!

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  • “and WE are ready to march”. Ave Maria in English and in Latin

  • Too many Catholics have embraced a false notion of the relationship between religion and politics. Basing themselves on Suarez’s interpretation of St Thomas, they have talked of a “natural order,” governed by Natural Law, consisting of truths accessible to unaided human reason, as something that can be kept separate from the supernatural truths revealed in the Gospel. “Under such circumstances, the supernatural is no longer properly speaking another order, something unprecedented, overwhelming and transfiguring” (Henri de Lubac)

    It was this that led Laberthonnière, a hundred years ago now, to accuse the Neo-Thomists of his day of ““a false theological notion of some state of pure nature and therefore imagined the state could be self-sufficient in the sense that it could be properly independent of any specifically Christian sense of justice.”

    It led his friend and contemporary, Maurice Blondel, to insist that we must never forget “that one cannot think or act anywhere as if we do not all have a supernatural destiny. Because, since it concerns the human being such as he is, in concreto, in his living and total reality, not in a simple state of hypothetical nature, nothing is truly complete (boucle), even in the sheerly natural order”

    Jacques Maritain, too, declared that “the knowledge of human actions and of the good conduct of the human State in particular can exist as an integral science, as a complete body of doctrine, only if related to the ultimate end of the human being. . . the rule of conduct governing individual and social life cannot therefore leave the supernatural order out of account”

    Unless we insist, in Blondel’s words, that we can “find only in the spirit of the gospel the supreme and decisive guarantee of justice and of the moral conditions of peace, stability, and social prosperity,” we shall inevitable acquiesce in practice in the Liberal privatisation of religion.

  • “‘and WE are ready to march’. Ave Maria in English and in Latin”

    Av? Mar?a, gr?ti? pl?na,
    Dominus t?cum.
    Benedicta t? in mulieribus,
    et benedictus fr?ctus ventris tu?, I?sus.
    S?ncta Mar?a, M?ter De?,
    ?r? pr? n?b?s pecc?t?ribus,
    nunc et in h?r? mortis nostrae.
    ?m?n.

    Hail Mary, full of grace,
    the Lord is with thee;
    blessed art thou amongst women,
    and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
    Holy Mary, Mother of God,
    pray for us sinners,
    now and at the hour of our death.
    Amen.

    And for good measure, the ancient Greek version as well (which reads a little differently) (hope the Greek letters come out OK):

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    ? ?????? ???? ???. ?????????? ?? ?? ???????,
    ??? ??????????? ? ?????? ??? ??????? ???,
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  • Thank you, Archbishop Carleson! You put into words what I believe. Mr. Obama has thrown down the gauntlet. Let us pick it up and fight!

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  • “Remember Rome, Mr. Obama! Remember Rome!”

    Not to mention Tudor England, France’s Reign of Terror, Bismarck’s Kulturkampf, the Know Nothing Party, and other movements/parties/regimes now residing in the “Where Are They Now” file….

  • True Elaine! It would be a wearying task to attempt to list all of the enemies Holy Mother Church has outlasted. A few more: Cromwell, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Garibaldi, Robespierre, Frederick II (Stupor Mundi), Julian the Apostate, etc. One of the iron laws of history: Don’t bet against the Catholic Church!

  • Archbishop Robert Carlson of St. Louis.
    Men of God, Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and the Pope are with us in the here and now; teaching and shedding light on the realities of the world. I think we are being blessed with ways to see the Truth and how to follow. I cannot imagine what developments would be without them to lead and inform us, and I include the men of this and other blogs making such as the above accessible and want to say thanks. We have Church fathers to read, but would we?
    The alternative catholics that have a voice in media and officialdom as the only spokesmen is frightening.

  • I already have the speech prepared that I plan to read aloud to the helmeted and shield-wielding law enforcement officers who we will face when they come to arrest the administration of our local Catholic hospital, should it come to that.

    It has to do with “Just Following Orders.” Slaying the dragon may have to happen tooth by tooth.

  • The Church will lose this fight – now or later in public opinion.

    None of us has the right to say, “I will not pay this tax or obey that law”. We cannot pick and choose. You either obey the law or you pay the penalty.

    Let us be clear about this: No one is requiring the Catholic Church or its institutions to pay for abortions or contraceptives. No one is restricting religious freedom. The Church wants special privileges and treatment which is unconstitutional.

    Why do we not see this fight in European countries where there are Catholics and government health insurance coverage for birth control? There are even legal abortions in such Catholic countries as Poland.

  • No, Don Maswell, the Church will win this fight because Jesus will win this fight. Oh, the Church may lose a battle here and there (Roberpierre’s Reign of Terror, Bismarck’s Kulturkampf, etc.) But in the end godless tyrannts always follow Roberpierre to the guillotine or Hitler with a bullet in his head.

    And here is another thing: I shall NOT ever obey your godless laws of sin and depravity. EVER! The only alternative is what Rome offered St. Ignatius of Antioch. I pray for courage to do as he did. But in the end, though he died, Christianity won. Obama will NOT win. Will NOT! His name will go down in history as the evil man that Hitler and Caligula were.

  • And PS, Jesus Christ cares not one fig for public opinion.

  • “You either obey the law or you pay the penalty.”

    Better vastly increase the federal budget for prisons Don, because if our Bishops go to jail quite a few other Catholics will be going to jail with them. The Church has prevailed over much tougher adversaries than Obama and his coterie of Chicago thugs.

  • Don M., I pray your blindness will be cured. Don’t be stubborn as I was in my youth, insisting I knew the truth. Now I deeply regreat the many I hurt and led astray because of my extreme liberal views. Pray with humility “Lord, that I may see!”

  • You are correct, Mr. Maswell, when you say “You either obey the law or you pay the penalty.” Martin Luther King did just that. And look what happened!

    You are also correct when you say “None of us has the right to say, “I will not. . . obey that law”. We cannot pick and choose.” So why are we supposed to disobey the one that says “Thou shalt not kill”?

    “What does it profit a man that he gain the whole world, but lose his soul?” We cannot give to Caesar what belongs to God. If public opinion is against us, it was against us back in the days of the Roman Empire. Yes, we may lose this battle, but we are confident, we are assured, we KNOW that we will win the war!

    I shall not call Obama evil for I cannot see into his heart. It is for God to judge him. But I WILL call his “law” evil, for it is. It is based on the premise that human life, before birth, is worthless. If he were truly worried about the results of the sexual act on women, he would include treatment for the many diseases you can contract from the sexual act: various cancers (not just the one they have a vaccine for), gonorrhea, syphilis, and other STDs.

  • “Better vastly increase the federal budget for prisons Don, because if our Bishops go to jail quite a few other Catholics will be going to jail with them.”

    This may seem like a stupid question to which I should know the answer, but just to make sure we’re clear, if the HHS mandate goes through EXACTLY as written right now and Catholic institutions fail to comply, who, exactly, would be going to jail? The bishops? The institutional administrators (hospital CEOs, Catholic school superintendents/principals, etc.)? Everyone who worked there? And by “going to jail” do they mean directly because of non-compliance or as the result of some kind of protest action like a sit-in or blockade?

  • My guess is none of the above Elaine, unless the Obama administration has a death wish. However, if he manages to be re-elected, Obama might be foolish enough to force a showdown, although I doubt it.

  • Mr. Obama, Jesus Christ has spoken. You are deaf to Him, of course, but you will NEVER, EVER DEFEAT HIM. Christus Vincit, Christus Regnat, Christus unci imperant. Christ is Victory, Christ for ever Reigns, Christ Lives Eternally. Mr. Obama you are fighting God and you HAVE ALREADY LOST THE WAR. And my country, Kenya, joining the Church Triumphant, rejoices at your imminent CRASHING DEFEAT.

Christus Vincit! Christus Regnat! Christus Imperat!

Wednesday, April 18, AD 2012

 

May God have mercy on the souls of those politicians who pretend to be Catholic in church, but in their public lives, rather like Judas Iscariot, betray Jesus Christ by how they vote and how they willingly cooperate with intrinsic evil.

                                                           Bishop Daniel Jenky

 

 

My bishop, Daniel Jenky, of the Peoria Diocese, speaks truth about Caesar on April 14 of this year:

There is only one basic reason why Christianity exists and that is the fact that Jesus Christ truly rose from the grave.

The disciples never expected the resurrection. The unanimous testimony of all four Gospels is that the terrible death of Jesus on the cross entirely dashed all their hopes about Jesus and about his message. He was dead, and that was the end of it. They looked for nothing more, and they expected nothing more.

So as much as they had loved him, in their eyes Jesus was a failed messiah. His dying seemed to entirely rob both his teaching and even his miracles of any lasting significance.

And they were clearly terrified that his awful fate, at the hands of the Sanhedrin and the Romans, could easily become their awful fate. So they hid, trembling with terror, behind shuttered windows and locked doors.

When the Risen Christ suddenly appeared in their midst, their reaction was shocked incredulity. They simply could not believe their own eyes.

Reality only very slowly began to penetrate their consciousness when Jesus offers proof of his resurrection. He shows them the wounds on his hands, his feet, and his side. Jesus even allowed them to touch him. He breaks bread with them and eats with them. And only then could they admit to themselves what had seemed absolutely impossible – the one who had truly died had truly risen! The Crucified now stood before them as their Risen, glorious, triumphant Lord.

His rising from the grave was every bit as real as his dying on the cross. The resurrection was the manifest proof of the invincible power of Almighty God. The inescapable fact of the resurrection confirmed every word Jesus had ever spoken and every work Jesus had ever done.

The Gospel was the truth. Jesus was the Christ, the promised Messiah of Israel. Jesus was the Savior of the world. Jesus was the very Son of God.

There is no other explanation for Christianity. It should have died out and entirely disappeared when Christ died and was buried, except for the fact that Christ was truly risen, and that during the 40 days before his Ascension, he interacted with his Apostles and disciples, and on one occasion even with hundreds of his followers.

Today’s appointed Gospel reading for this Saturday in the Octave of Easter is taken from the 16th Chapter of Mark. It concludes with a command from the lips of Jesus, given to his disciples, given to the whole Church, given to you and me assembled here today: “Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature.”

We heard in today’s Second Reading from the Acts of the Apostles that the same Sanhedrin that had condemned Jesus was amazed at the boldness of Peter and John. Perceiving them to be uneducated, ordinary men, they recognized them as companions of Jesus. They warned them never again to teach, or speak to anyone, in the name of Jesus.

But the elders and the scribes might as well have tried to turn back the tide, or hold back an avalanche. Peter and John had seen the Risen Christ with their own eyes. Peter and John were filled with the Holy Spirit. They asked whether it is right “in the sight of God for us to obey you rather than God. It is impossible for us not to speak about what we have seen and heard.”

And Peter and John and all the Apostles, starting first in Jerusalem in Judea and Galilee and then to the very ends of the earth, announced the Resurrection and the Good News to everyone they encountered.

According to the clear testimony of the Scriptures, these Apostles had once been rather ordinary men – like you and me. Their faith hadn’t always been strong. They made mistakes. They committed sins. They were often afraid and confused.

But meeting the Risen Lord had changed everything about these first disciples, and knowing the Risen Lord should also change everything about us.

You know, it has never been easy to be a Christian and it’s not supposed to be easy! The world, the flesh, and the devil will always love their own, and will always hate us. As Jesus once predicted, they hated me, they will certainly hate you.

But our Faith, when it is fully lived, is a fighting faith and a fearless faith. Grounded in the power of the resurrection, there is nothing in this world, and nothing in hell, that can ultimately defeat God’s one, true, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

For 2,000 years the enemies of Christ have certainly tried their best. But think about it. The Church survived and even flourished during centuries of terrible persecution, during the days of the Roman Empire.

The Church survived barbarian invasions. The Church survived wave after wave of Jihads. The Church survived the age of revolution. The Church survived Nazism and Communism.

And in the power of the resurrection, the Church will survive the hatred of Hollywood, the malice of the media, and the mendacious wickedness of the abortion industry.

The Church will survive the entrenched corruption and sheer incompetence of our Illinois state government, and even the calculated disdain of the President of the United States, his appointed bureaucrats in HHS, and of the current majority of the federal Senate.

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  • Amen!

    ” . . . for the country folk to be up and to arm, . . . ” Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.

    This night in 1775, Paul Revere . . .

  • Incompetence in the exercise of charity or malicious evildoing?
    Peaceably assembly in every public place owned, in joint and common tenancy by every person ever created, those persons who now are alive, our ancestors and those being aborted today, and all future generations, our constitutional posterity, is being redefined by the HHS mandate to usurp all public property to those in government and impose moratoriums on freedom, speech, assembly and our unalienable rights. Our unalienable rights are being proscribed by an incompetent and malicious evildoer. The TRUTH returned to the public square will announce that freedom of religion is man’s response to the gift of Faith from God and if God tells us that charity is man’s vision for a better world, government may not redefine charity as something with a price tag to be extorted from the people. If those people in public service do not like religious freedom, they are very, very, free to leave their office, their citizenship and their country to find what suits them. Remember that when Madalyn Murray O’Hair, the woman atheist who removed prayer from the public place came to the atheistic nation of the USSR, The United Soviet Socialist Republic, the USSR refuse to admit her. So, Obama and his HHS can go wherever anybody will admit them but not in my country. FREEDOM and one rosary in Latin, maybe two.

  • “the USSR refused to admit her.(the atheist)” I see my Russian, Jewish ancestor is at work again. Mary De Voe

  • “…one rosary in Latin, maybe two.”

    One in Latin during my lunch time walk and one tonight after Bible Study.

    😉

  • – those people who bravely came here for religious freedom continued coming all through our history…. puritans, French, Irish also came looking for life and religious freedom, Germans who came during the years of Bismarck, the Czech, defectors from communism in Asia and the soviet bloc, Jews from Europe… no wonder we are an Exceptional country, we are populated by people who take their religion seriously

  • Makes you want to move to Peoria just to be under his excellency. Any chance he might get transferred to DC?

  • The interesting thing c matt is that although Bishop Jenky has always been forthright, he has never been a fire brand. That he is speaking out now in this manner indicates just how dangerous our situation is becoming in this country as to religious liberty. This issue is ready to explode and the professional politicians are largely clueless as to what is about to happen. Yamamoto could clue them in:

  • SSPX (whose reconciliation with the Vatican seems likely) has a very different take on the topic of religious liberty:

    http://www.sspx.org/news/our_first_cherished.htm

    Basically, SSPX says no one has the right to choose the wrong and choosing faiths other than the Catholic one is wrong. Maybe I oversimplify. My view (for whatever it’s worth, which may not be much) is that we do have freedom of choice and religious liberty, and then we have to bear the consequences of our choices, whether right or wrong. It’s called responsibility and accountability.

  • in Peoria? maybe Fulton Sheen has inspired him

  • Bishop Jenky, as one might expect, has been a strong promoter of the sainthood cause for Peoria’s favorite son.

  • “Basically, SSPX says no one has the right to choose the wrong and choosing faiths other than the Catholic one is wrong. Maybe I oversimplify.

    Nope. This screed is as much a condemnation of all things non-Catholic, including the Constitution, as the HHS mandate is a declaration of war on all things non-secular.

    Does SSPX believe or desire that such a redefinition should be enforced by law? To say that “Americanist religious liberty” is an error is to condemn a keystone of The Constitution. There’s scant other conclusion to be had, so the question is begged, “If the Constitution itself is wrong, by what then shall it be replaced?”

    This?

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  • ““If the Constitution itself is wrong, by what then shall it be replaced?”

    Ummmm, It is to be replaced by a Catholic monarchy.

  • “Basically, SSPX says no one has the right to choose the wrong and choosing faiths other than the Catholic one is wrong.”

    They can believe anything they please, thanks to the Constitution they abhor, but their stand simply does not accord with current Church teaching on religious liberty. I might note that this discussion is far afield from the topic of this post and everyone from here on in will stay on topic on this thread.

  • “I might note that this discussion is far afield from the topic of this post and everyone from here on in will stay on topic on this thread.”

    How is that so if we are discussing political leadership? If we are to chose correctly and within the traditions of the Catholic faith, then no, there is no right, in the true sense of the word, to chose any other faith than Christianity in in fullness (i.e. Catholicism). This gets at the heart of what Bishop Jenky and all the bishops should be about, choosing, or am i wrong? Are we such “American” Catholics that we place the Constitution above the Magisterium? The right to religious liberty in the Constitution, which must and should be upheld by all citizens, is a compromise because so many abandoned the True Faith. They basically had to say “We agree to disagree” in order to stop killing one another, but that does not change the fact that Christ is very precise in where his Church is. And if we are to follow him truly, then how do we have a “right” to choose differently. That is still the teaching of the Church and not just the SSPX.

  • Dignitas Humanae from the Magisterium of the Church supports and provides the foundation for Bishop Jenky’s position.

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html

    One can’t claim to be more Catholic than the Pope while dissenting from what the Magisterium and the Pope teach.

    That’s what SSPX does.

  • “How is that so if we are discussing political leadership? If we are to chose correctly and within the traditions of the Catholic faith, then no, there is no right, in the true sense of the word, to chose any other faith than Christianity in in fullness (i.e. Catholicism).”

    Because this is all a distraction courtesy of the idiots of SSPX who would reduce the Church to a cranky cult and make Catholics anathema to their non-Catholic fellow Americans. Believing that Catholicism is the True Faith and also believing that all humans have a right to religious liberty is the current teaching of the Church, all blather to the contrary not-withstanding. Further attempts to hijack this thread into discussions other than the Church’s stand for religious liberty will be deleted by me.

  • Well, this is perhaps my fault for having posted the link to SSPX’s thoughts on the religious liberty matter. The irony truly struck me as weird: claiming to be Catholic but denying the truth thereof. Personally, I think that the attitude of absolutism with respect to the Roman Catholic Church is as dangerous and wrong as the attitude of absolutism with respect to secular atheism that the Government is trying to force down our throats. Many religious denominations – Southern Baptist, Assemblies of God Pentecostal, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran Missouri Synod, etc. – are uniting with us against Obamania. If we can’t get along with our separated brethren here on Earth, then how shall we in an eternity in Heaven? And yes, I fully expect that my Pentecostal Mom and Dad are going to Heaven (if only because they put up with me for 18 long years of purgation).

    😉

    If they don’t make it in, then there is scant chance for me. Indeed, being a member of the Church that has the fulness of grace and truth (as we oft hear proclaimed) isn’t a cause for pride and self-satisfaction. It’s rather a cause for humility – I have received what I don’t deserve (which is grace) and I am not receiving what I truly do deserve (which is mercy). This “ain’t no cause” for insufferable pride.

  • OK, let us stay focused on the religious liberty fight the Church is engaged in today. This is far too important to get bogged down in side issues.

  • BRAVO Bishop Jenky

  • I love how the media is spinning this as some kind of unfair comparison to Hitler. The bishop isn’t comparing Obama to Hitler, but to every fanatically anti-Catholic statesman who ever tried to destroy the Church only to fail miserably. Silly liberals.

  • This issue is NOT about Catholics but every Christian. This is NOT about the Constitution. If one is a TRUE Christian, their faith will not let them enjoy the right to vote for anyone that believes, and promotes, abortion; the killing of unborn children. And if our government refuses to address the unborn, then why did they when Scott Peterson was charged with 2 murders. That of his wife AND unborn child. Our government wants to pick and choose but a TRUE Christian has only one response/belief….no killing of unborn and no voting for those that believe and promote that killing.

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Our Most Cherished Freedom

Friday, April 13, AD 2012

Judging from this statement on religious liberty issued yesterday, the Bishops understand that the stakes are very high indeed this year:

 

A Statement on Religious Liberty

 

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Ad Hoc Committee for Religious Liberty

We are Catholics. We are Americans. We are proud to be both, grateful for the gift of faith which is ours as Christian disciples, and grateful for the gift of liberty which is ours as American citizens. To be Catholic and American should mean not having to choose one over the other. Our allegiances are distinct, but they need not be contradictory, and should instead be complementary. That is the teaching of our Catholic faith, which obliges us to work together with fellow citizens for the common good of all who live in this land. That is the vision of our founding and our Constitution, which guarantees citizens of all religious faiths the right to contribute to our common life together.   Freedom is not only for Americans, but we think of it as something of our special inheritance, fought for at a great price, and a heritage to be guarded now. We are stewards of this gift, not only for ourselves but for all nations and peoples who yearn to be free. Catholics in America have discharged this duty of guarding freedom admirably for many generations.   In 1887, when the archbishop of Baltimore, James Gibbons, was made the second American cardinal, he defended the American heritage of religious liberty during his visit to Rome to receive the red hat. Speaking of the great progress the Catholic Church had made in the United States, he attributed it to the “civil liberty we enjoy in our enlightened republic.” Indeed, he made a bolder claim, namely that “in the genial atmosphere of liberty [the Church] blossoms like a rose.”1   From well before Cardinal Gibbons, Catholics in America have been advocates for religious liberty, and the landmark teaching of the Second Vatican Council on religious liberty was influenced by the American experience. It is among the proudest boasts of the Church on these shores. We have been staunch defenders of religious liberty in the past. We have a solemn duty to discharge that duty today.   We need, therefore, to speak frankly with each other when our freedoms are threatened. Now is such a time. As Catholic bishops and American citizens, we address an urgent summons to our fellow Catholics and fellow Americans to be on guard, for religious liberty is under attack, both at home and abroad.   This has been noticed both near and far. Pope Benedict XVI recently spoke about his worry that religious liberty in the United States is being weakened. He called it the “most cherished of American freedoms”—and indeed it is. All the more reason to heed the warning of the Holy Father, a friend of America and an ally in the defense of freedom, in his recent address to American bishops:  

Of particular concern are certain attempts being made to limit that most cherished of American freedoms, the freedom of religion. Many of you have pointed out that concerted efforts have been made to deny the right of conscientious objection on the part of Catholic individuals and institutions with regard to cooperation in intrinsically evil practices. Others have spoken to me of a worrying tendency to reduce religious freedom to mere freedom of worship without guarantees of respect for freedom of conscience.  

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