Pictures of Defeat and Victory

Monday, December 3, AD 2012

Hattip to Ann Althouse.

Obama is the one who won, right?  Considering what the next four years are going to be like, I suspect that most of the country will eventually bitterly regret that Romney lost.  Romney on the other hand may eventually decide that all things being equal, giving Obama an opportunity to reap what he sowed in his first term might not be the worst thing in the world.  The funny thing about politics is that there are no final defeats or final victories.  Sometimes a defeat is a prelude to a great victory next time around, and sometimes a victory is merely a bump in a downward path.  We will see.

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  • Well, “the funny thing” about life…

  • AMERICAN SPIRIT STILL LIVES!

    The true American spirit will always live – I know why.
    Liberty and religious freedom are ever our cry.
    Don’t let a day pass without honor for the God we trust.
    To aspire for salvation must always be our main thrust.

    The hour of visitation must never be forgotten.
    Without trust in God, our nation could not be begotten.
    We must ensure that Christianity again prevails.
    Without the God of Abraham our basic nature fails.

    The liberty bell is silent – freedom we still ensure.
    In the hearts of Americans it will always endure.
    I will fly Old Glory when our nation is again free.
    Socialism leads a nation into ignominy.

    Now, the nation my military career defended,
    has by traitorous American votes been upended.
    A grave sin was committed against unborn human life.
    God’s justice surely demands vengeance and eternal strife.

    When spirit seems at its very worst, patriots heed the call.
    They know what made liberty and freedom refuse to fall.
    The American dream, now in default, we must revive.
    Only with revived trust in God can our nation survive.

    Bob Rowland
    X1/XVIII/MMXII

  • The photograph appears edited. Nevertheless, while the Obamanation’s victory is a curse for the nation, it may be a blessing for Mitt Romney. May God bless Mitt Romney and may God bring Barack Hussein Obama to repentance as He brought King Manasseh before him.

  • The Obama photograph is edited Paul, a projection of what Obama might look like in 2016 when he will be 55.

  • Obama will start looking like Morgan Freeman. 🙂

  • Don, Obama growing old????? Ooooh no!!!!! If he sees this picture, he will tellyou are dead wrong. He will remain in his blooming mid-forties for the next 70 years. And that he believes, that is why he delights in murdering the unborn and the elderly who, according to him, are just a burden to the energetic Eternal, 30s-40s. I wonder how he has managed to make Time Stop for him

Have I Got a Party For Them!

Wednesday, November 14, AD 2012

 

 

After every major Republican defeat the party plays a game of lifeboat which boils down to:  “If we just dump over those rascals I have never agreed with, everything would be hunky dory.”  After a few months of this, the party settles down, learns from its defeats, the Democrats fall on their face, and the party comes roaring back.  In the present period of Republican angst, some commentators have been calling for the social conservatives to go into the deep blue political void.  Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal is typical.

Fellow conservatives, please stop obsessing about what other adults might be doing in their bedrooms, so long as it’s lawful and consensual and doesn’t impinge in some obvious way on you. This obsession is socially uncouth, politically counterproductive and, too often, unwittingly revealing.

Also, if gay people wish to lead conventionally bourgeois lives by getting married, that may be lunacy on their part but it’s a credit to our values. Channeling passions that cannot be repressed toward socially productive ends is the genius of the American way. The alternative is the tapped foot and the wide stance.

Also, please tone down the abortion extremism. Supporting so-called partial-birth abortions, as too many liberals do, is abortion extremism. But so is opposing abortion in cases of rape and incest, to say nothing of the life of the mother. Democrats did better with a president who wanted abortion to be “safe, legal and rare”; Republicans would have done better by adopting former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels’s call for a “truce” on social issues.

I always find the sheer political fantasy land of such proposals amusing.  Social conservatives are  the core of the Republican party.  No one can be involved with the Republican party for long without noticing that most of the volunteers in Republican campaigns are social conservatives.  They are the ones who do the door to door canvassing, put up yard signs, man the phones, etc.  Without them any Republican campaign would be a mere shell.  Yes, it would be a masterstroke for Republicans to alienate their most devoted supporters.

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  • I agree with Don and would note that the Libertarian platform is perfectly fine with polygamy, as will be the Democratic platform eventually.

  • the party plays a game of lifeboat which boils down to: “If we just dump over those rascals I have never agreed with, everything would be hunky dory.

    Not ‘the party’, but a collection of professional word merchants like David Frum.

  • Democrats did better with a president who wanted abortion to be “safe, legal, and rare”.

    That was Bill Clinton’s era. I haven’t heard the current president say “rare” once. The kind of pro-abortion extremism that the Journal correctly derides is sitting in the White House. It’s perfectly legitimate, even by the WSJ article’s standards, to raise the abortion issue in the face of extremism. I agree with Don about the rest, too, but I just had to call out that “safe, legal, and rare” falsehood.

  • Listening to the radio right now I hear Penn Jillette, the comedian/comic, claiming to be a libertarian. He says that he is “as far right as you can go on economics and as far left as you can go on sex.” First of all, note the obsessive linking of all social issues with “sex.” More importantly, it continues to astound me that so-called small government types miss the connection between culture and economics. The massive interventionist state has been created by (and also exacerbates) the breakdown of the family and reliance on the government as a last refuge of charity. Libertarians simply cannot grasp this concept, thus highlighting the problem of viewing liberty as an end rather the means to an end.

  • The massive interventionist state has been created by (and also exacerbates) the breakdown of the family and reliance on the government as a last refuge of charity. Libertarians simply cannot grasp this concept, thus highlighting the problem of viewing liberty as an end rather the means to an end.

    In this country, the elaboration on conventional common provision which began around about 1933 antedated the breakdown in social architecture by more than three decades. The initial experiments toward this end in Hohenzollern Germany were underway five decades earlier.

    Libertarians are commonly discussing a hypothetical society, not the actual world of 1928, and are often in a state in life where the observation that all of us come into this world in a dependent position and most of us leave in the same circumstance is not exactly palpable. Rich Leonardi once said that his departure from the libertarian fold began when he realized that the luminaries thereof were disproportionately drawn from the childless.

    One should draw a distinction between a state which allocates capital beyond the conventional boundaries of common property and public works (through mercantilist measures and economic planning) and a state which re-distributes income. The former is attempting to influence economic decision making at every stage; the latter is not. Friedrich v. Hayek’s brief concerned planning; social insurance was not of much concern to him.

  • The left understands the importance of the social issues, which is why their push for abortion, same sex “marriage”, etc. has always been symbiotic with their push for the welfare nanny state. Obamacare proves that fact in spades.

    For Mitch Daniels of all people to call for a truce on social issues is bizarre in thta he distances himself from his own record as Governor of Indiana in doing so. His record on social issues there was sterling.

  • What’s ironic is that what likely depressed turnout for Romney in places like Ohio is the exact OPPOSITE of what the low-tax liberals at the WSJ would ever admit — namely, this caricature of him as Gordon Gekko.

    while the economic liberal/socially conservative dichotomy when it comes to working-class voters is probably an oversimplification, I seriously doubt all of Obama’s support in the Midwest came from people who are gungho about his cultural liberalism.

  • Mike Petrik wrote, “I agree with Don and would note that the Libertarian platform is perfectly fine with polygamy, as will be the Democratic platform eventually.”

    When will both parties then support leagilized pedophilia and beastiality? After all, if sex between two men or between two women is OK, then why not sex between man and boy, or sex between man and animal? Let me guess: the only behavior the left is outrages at is when a priest is accused, falsely or otherwise, of any sex act. But if a liberal does the exact same act, then it’s OK. In fact, it’s to be praised. Romans 1:32 says that such people deserve to die. Not my words – St. Paul’s and hee was writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Just to be clear, however: anyone who sins deserves to die. We have all sinned. That’s why Christ died on a Cross.

  • Most of the sane libertarians I know are aware that the Libertarian party can’t go anywhere; that’s why they want to take over the Republican party.

    This phenomia is familiar to anyone who has lived near a left wing disaster area, and had floods of people moving out of that area…and making their new home make the same stupid mistakes.

  • The Republicans allowed themselves to be painted as a party of plutocrats, even though their tradition included famous Republicans such as the trust-busting TR who had warned about the concentration of capital in a few hands. They could have handily won the battleground states with swing votes from the Reagan Democrats alone without compromising on any of their core issues. They could not bring out the Evangelicals either which despite Rev Billy Graham’s last minute trick on the Mormon issue, left many unconvinced. Obama was in tears when congratulating his campaign workers, quite realising that they had pulled off an unexpected victory on the back of an ill thought Republican campaign.

204K Swing in Votes and Romney Would Have Been President

Monday, November 12, AD 2012

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  • I have to wonder how many of the votes that Obama did get had been gotten via election fraud.

  • My rule of thumb Paul is that in any state with large cities the margin of fraud for Democrats is around three to five percent of their vote total. There is a reason why Democrats fight tooth and nail voter ID laws. In Illinois Chicago is traditionally very slow to report, presumably so the Democrats can manufacture the votes they need if the election is a squeaker.

  • Fox news reported that more Mormons voted for John McCain than Mitt Romney -is anyone buying that? What’s done is done – it’s just a tragedy for this country. I’m afraid that Obama’s tyranny will begin the collapse of our country. There are already rumbles in Texas about leaving the union. And if Texas moves, watch the southern states. Also Alaska. Nor do I think these are fringe movements. To escape the Federal leviathan, States will begin to take matters into their own hands when they feel they’ve been given no alternative.

  • I have seen no comments on the massive abstention rate – Compare this with the French press, full of dire predictions that the “missing 20%” in their Presidential election threatened the republican compact and the principles of ’89!

  • American turnout at elections MPS has never been that high. The American attitude has always been that people are free to vote, or not vote as they please. In certain Democrat enclaves, usually in urban centers, there does seem to be an ongoing concern for the dead exercising the franchise!

  • “American turnout at elections MPS has never been that high.”

    True, but with what was at stake here, with both sides predicting doom if the other won, to have millions of fewer voters than in 2008 is unbelievable.

  • I hate to burst this bubble. Abraham Lincoln ran the Civil War against the South with the mandate of 40% of the popular vote. Douglas, Breckenridge and Bell earned 60% of the 1860 American people’s votes.

    Obama’s electoral mandate is far superior to Lincoln’s. It empowers him to impose his legacy: the destructions (hyper-regulation and and confiscatory taxation) of both the evil, unjust private, market economy (private property is theft) and the United States of America.

    The red states need to secede. Obama needs to steal their wealth to bail out his base: bankrupt blue states: CA, IL, MI, NJ. NY, et al.

    If you have transferable personal property you need to cash out and emigrate to America, i.e., a red state.

  • Under normal circumstances, I would say we lost by just 204k votes. But given we had a president where every statistic worked against him in addition to his assaults on life, marriage, the Church, etc., the margin should have been much wider.

    Again, focusing on the whats and whys of the presidential race misses why the GOP lost. The losses go beyond Romney vs Obama. Conservatives lost at all levels. Blaming the presidential race loss on voter turnout, computer programs, etc does not explain why people voted for gay marriage, legitimizing marijuana, against government funding of abortion, etc. in addition to the senate losses.

    Some are trying to take comfort in the NYT interactive map that shows America pulling right because most counties voted more Republican than in 2008. I take no comfort in that map because it’s obvious those areas are tilting more right than 2008 because so many voted for Obama in 2008. The vote totals were already heavily weighted blue that by the time 2012 election came around, the most probable movement would be right. The numbers are misrepresenting reality.

    My attitude right now about Election 2012 is more in line with this guy…
    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1112/ahlert.php3

    Also of interest if watching the George Wiegel interview on The World Over. They talk about the election and especially the Catholic vote. There is a part they talk about the impact of the bishops’ letters read from pulpits and the claim we need more and better catechesis. Neither are very effective if the intended audience is either not there to listen or refuse to listen. Why? See my previous link at Jewish World Review.

  • CORRECTION: But given we had a president where every statistic worked against him in addition to his assaults on life, marriage, the Church, etc., the winning margin should have been much wider.

  • “Conservatives lost at all levels.”

    Not in the House races. A wave election like 1994, 2006, 2008 and 2010 would have seen the House flip. This was a base turnout election and the Obama election team did a great job getting their voters to the poll, and the Romney campaign did a very poor job. Lets see how 2014 and 2016 goes before we begin to draw large conclusions from 2012.

  • “I hate to burst this bubble. Abraham Lincoln ran the Civil War against the South with the mandate of 40% of the popular vote. Douglas, Breckenridge and Bell earned 60% of the 1860 American people’s votes.”

    Lincoln had a solid majority in the North. The Republican party was excluded from the ballot in virtually all the Southern states.

    Secession worked so well in 1861-65. No thanks.

  • Before the election, Republicans held 242 seats and Democrats had 193, meaning at the very least, Democrats will gain at least 2 seats. If they win all 6 of the unresolved races, they’ll walk away from the 2012 election with a net gain of 8 seats.

    Democrat gains sounds like a loss to me.

  • Woulda shoulda coulda. If Romney ran as a real conservative, he would have been president. But he didn’t so he isn’t.

  • What of counting by controlled electronic means?

  • “Not in the House races.”

    There is no question that conservatism is alive and well at the congressional district level. Even Akin and Mourdock can operate safely at that level. Where it is having more problems is in the Senate and Presidential races. (NB I’m not stating that all Repubs ran as conservatives just that the voters perceive them that way and given their far left opponents it was true in a relative sense.)

    To repeat, the Senate Repub hopefuls ran well behind Romney in many states. Many people who voted for Romney proceeded to vote for a far left Senator. The disconnect is astounding. Voters in ND voted for a Dem who will support the EPA harassment of oil drilling lifting the state. Romney voters in FL voted for a Senator who is fine with the death panels and would have blocked the repeal of Obamacare. Romney voters in WV voted for a Senator who will support the EPA shutdown of the coal industry. Even the feeble Romney campaign did make an issue about oil, coal and energy independence.

    Will social conservatives turn out to vote when the Repubs rightly or wrongly use Akin and Mourdock as reasons why social conservatives must not be nominees? They didn’t even turn out in 2012 it seems.

  • “Democrat gains sounds like a loss to me.”

    Not really when you consider that the Republicans gained 63 seats in 2010 and thus had a huge number of new seats to defend. Additionally almost all the Dem overall gains are attributable to redistricting in Illinois and California.

  • The vote margins hardly make for any mandate for the Obama agenda.

  • “Lincoln had a solid majority in the North. The Republican party was excluded from the ballot in virtually all the Southern states.”

    Had Lincoln been on a ballot anywhere in the South, he would have received exactly as many votes as would have Lester Maddox in Harlem, NY in 1960.

    The five and six-figure (that’s tens-of and hundreds-of-thousands for liberals and media geniuses) margins of victory in the swing states are well within the fraud range.

    Not in NH. Way more than 40,659 liberals escared from Taxachussets and live tax-free in NH, and apparently vote democrat.

    Likely, the Alinskyites stole the election for Obama and revenge.

  • Ron Paul stated it correctly when, the day before the election, he declared that “regardless of the outcome, the status quo will win”. I was proud that Dr. Paul did not bow to pressure and endorse the war-mongering collectivist Romney over the war-mongering collectivist Obama.

    It is interesting to note that, to use an example, Dr. Paul received over 117K votes in the Florida Republican primary. Obama’s margin of victory in FL was, according to this story, just under 74K. Nearly all Ron Paul voters I know, besides being angry and disillusioned at their treatment by the Republican Party/Romney campaign, would decline to vote for a tried and true statist like Romney.

    Given the numbers, in addition to FL, the “Ron Paul factor” very well may have cost Romney VA, OH, and NH. Do the math and you will see that had Romney won these four states, he would have won the electoral college. Extrapolate this to other close states, add in disillusioned Democrats who would have voted for Ron Paul, and you might have your answer to the question of “Why”.

  • “Had Lincoln been on a ballot anywhere in the South, he would have received exactly as many votes as would have Lester Maddox in Harlem, NY in 1960.”

    We will never know T.Shaw since the powers that be in the South did not trust their own people enough to allow Lincoln’s name to appear on the ballot. Perhaps that also explains why in most Southern states it was a criminal offense to publish abolitionist material. It wasn’t only slaves that had their freedom severely circumscribed in the South prior to the Civil War.

  • “the “Ron Paul factor” very well may have cost Romney VA, OH, and NH.”

    I would be more than happy to extend to Ron Paul (R. Pluto) a fair amount of the blame for the harm that Obama does in the next four years, but I can’t because he simply was not a significant factor in the outcome of the election, just as he was not a significant factor in the outcome of the primaries, Paulite delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.

  • As Stalin once stated, “its not the votes that count, but who is counting the votes”. There are numerous questions in my mind and red flags should be raised when Romney got zero votes in 59 precints in Philadelphia and even more where Romney got one vote? And these irregularities only seemed to have occured in the battleground states. Many voting machines over and over again kept going for Obama when the voter hit Romney. And how is it that in many precincts there were more votes cast than registered voters? Something is fishy in Dodge if you ask me. Did Romney really lose???

  • It’s a strange thing to read through these comments. Lots of blame to go around. Some blame Ron aul (who wasn’t even the ballot.

    But a LOT of people blame voter fraud – despite the fact that the outcome was almost exactly what the polls predicted. I suppose the polls were all biased and skewed, too.

    The fact remains that a majority of Catholic voters went for Obama. To me, this means it’s more complicated than fraud or blame or making the Catholic Church a wing of the Republican Party.

  • “But a LOT of people blame voter fraud”

    Oh that there was an immense amount of fraud I have no doubt. For example the 59 Philadelphia inner precincts that reported not one vote for Romney, or the 11 Philadelphia precincts where court appointed Republican poll watchers were physically tossed out and the same precincts reported 99% for Obama.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/odd-romney-got-zero-votes-in-59-precincts-in-philly-9-in-ohio/

    Without more proof I would not argue that fraud is the reason why Obama was reelected, but the fraud this time around was blatant and widespread.

    “despite the fact that the outcome was almost exactly what the polls predicted.”

    Actually the polls were all over the lot, with a wide divergence among the national polls.

    “The fact remains that a majority of Catholic voters went for Obama.”

    I think the breakdown was 50-48 with most “White” Catholics voting for Romney and most “Hispanic” Catholics voting for Obama. One would have hoped that all Catholics would have voted to toss out the most anti-Catholic administration in the nation’s history, but hope was in short supply last election day as I suspect it will be throughout this nation for the next four years.

  • These people will confiscate or destroy all you have.

    Plan and prepare.

    Do whatever you can to protect your family in the coming financial and societal cataclysm.

    The Mayan December 2012 end time prophesy is explained: The stars foretold the idiots would re-elect Obama.

Beached Killer Whale

Friday, November 9, AD 2012

 

 

Yesterday in my post on how the Republican Party can find its way back from the political wilderness I wrote this:

1.  Professionalism-The Democrats and their campaign staffs approach politics as a business, if not a war.  Republicans have for far too long tolerated well-meaning amateurism as a substitute for professional competence in politics.  Politics is a job like any other, and professional staffs can help take a lot of the ineffectiveness and clumsiness out of our campaigns.

A prime example of what I was referring to is contained in this post mortem by Breitbart of the disastrous Orca get out the vote project of the Romney campaign:

A source within the Romney campaign agreed to share his reflections on Project Orca with Breitbart News:

    It’s easy to point fingers after a loss and I wouldn’t normally do it, but consider what happened.

    Project Orca was supposed to enable poll watchers to record voter names on their smartphones, by listening for names as voters checked in. This would give the campaign real-time turnout data, so they could redirect GOTV resources throughout the day where it was most needed. They recruited 37,000 swing state volunteers for this.

    I worked on the Colorado team, and we were called by hundreds (or more) volunteers who couldn’t use the app or the backup phone system. The usernames and passwords were wrong, but the reset password tool didn’t work, and we couldn’t change phone PINs. We were told the problems were limited and asked to project confidence, have people use pencil and paper, and try to submit again later.

    Then at 6PM they admitted they had issued the wrong PINs to every volunteer in Colorado, and reissued new PINs (which also didn’t work). Meanwhile, counties where we had hundreds of volunteers, such as Denver Colorado, showed zero volunteers in the system all day, but we weren’t allowed to add them. In one area, the head of the Republican Party plus 10 volunteers were all locked out. The system went down for a half hour during peak voting, but for hundreds or more, it never worked all day. Many of the poll watchers I spoke with were very discouraged. Many members of our phone bank got up and left.

    I do not know if the system was totally broken, or if I just saw the worst of it. But I wonder, because they told us all day that most volunteers were submitting just fine, yet admitted at the end that all of Colorado had the wrong PIN’s. They also said the system projected every swing state as pink or red.

    Regardless of the specific difficulties, this idea would only help if executed extremely well. Otherwise, those 37,000 swing state volunteers should have been working on GOTV…

    Somebody messaged me privately after my email and told me that North Carolina had the same problems — every pin was wrong and not fixed until 6PM — and was also told it was localized to North Carolina.

The problems with Orca appear to have been nationwide, and predated Election Day itself. At Ace of Spades, John Ekdahl reported his frustrations as a volunteer in the field:

    From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of “rah-rahs” and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

    Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like “Has this been stress tested?”, “Is there redundancy in place?” and “What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?”, among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success.

Ekdahl describes how volunteers were expected to print their own materials, and were mistakenly not told to bring their poll watching credentials to polling places. Attempts to communicate with the Romney campaign to ask for assistance were unsuccessful:

    By 2PM, I had completely given up. I finally got ahold of someone at around 1PM and I never heard back. From what I understand, the entire system crashed at around 4PM. I’m not sure if that’s true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I decided to wait for my wife to get home from work to vote, which meant going very late (around 6:15PM). Here’s the kicker, I never got a call to go out and vote. So, who the hell knows if that end of it was working either.

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  • Donald, I am sure your analysis is correct. However, too many Americans are either apathetic about who rules them so long as their life style isn’t severely impacted (a situation whichh is becoming worse and worse for more and more), or they simply want the continuation of bread and circuses. Romney was the sane choice. I work with two liberals who are engineers. They are smarter and more knowledgeable than I. They love Obama. Period. No logic, nor reasoning, no facts will convince them otherwise. Did the Romney campaign screw up? Probably. But the real problem is the American people themselves. We get the govt we deserve.

    BTW, no sarcasm intended – I mean this sincerely. Have you tried your hand at politics? You’re articulate, well informed and better yet, a student of history. Additionally, you have the good sense to leave engineering and science issues to people who are real engineers and scientists.

  • I ran back in 1984 in a Democrat district for County Board in Coles County, Illinois against an entrenched incumbent. I fell short although I got more votes from that district than any Republican had in many a moon. My opponent next year was indicted for mail fraud and eventually went to prison. I haven’t run for office since for three reasons:

    1. Raising a family and building a law practice.
    2. I despised going door to door and asking people for their votes.
    3. The party meetings were congealed tedium.

    The Romney campaign Paul fell down on a basic aspect of politics: in an election you need to get your voters to the polls, and that includes the apathetic, those in poor health and those who lack transportation. This alone, as tight as some of the states were, may have cost Romney the election. Obama’s vote total was down ten million votes. With a little bit of Politics 101 competence from the Romney campaign we would now be discussing expectations of the Romney administration.

  • I had not read about this ORCA app. But, I feel that any computerized part of elections is much more prone to hacking than other systems that have no enemies.

    Here in MD, a computer science profesor who also volunteers and an election judge in Balto County, was allowed to used the touchscreen system before the election (2008 or 10, I believe). He assigned his students to break into the system and sabotage the vote. In his review of the results, he stated that he thought it could be done but didn’t realize it would be so quick and easy. Every one of his students accomplished the task within one hour.

    We still use that system, and based on the “results” of the question 4 gerrymandering vote, we will until the collapse of the state.

    I think that ORCA app was sabotaged, possibly from the inside. And I hope that in the future, some human intelligence will reveal a few of the other episodes of this crime.

    Cynical? Why, yes i am.

  • Correction: Question 5 (not 4) was the gerrymandering. Sorry folks.

  • Interesting. The one thing that never made sense to me was the low Republican turn out. I thought people were biting at the bit to go vote against Obama. I was starting to be convinced that the dems hacked key precincts computers and were able to wipe out X amount of Romney votes. Is it possible that the people who set up this “hi-tech” get-out-the-vote project were part of a sting operation?

  • I smell a birth certificate.

    Republicans would be wise not to immediately suspect the other side for their failures. Dems in 2000 and 2004, and Republicans in 2008 ended up looking foolish by doing so.

  • Avi Rubin of Johns Hopkins University…for those that wish to read more. I heard him interviewed on the Ron Smith show.

    But don’t want to belabor that one system. There is plenty more where that came from.

  • Another metaphor: the voters “pulling the wagon” are outnumbered by the voters “riding the wagon.” N.B. most blue states are huge, fiscally bankrupt, and will need Federal bailouts ala Greece.

    Eventually, the system (states and entitlements) will collapse of its own weight.

    It’s not the common good, “least of my brothers”, or KUMBAYA. It’s mathematics and the “gods” of the copy book headings.

    So, eat, drink and be merry as they did before the Flood.

    Those people have four more years, unexpectedly, to ruin everything and confiscate what’s left.

  • My ultra low opinion of Republican political operations has been expressed already so I won’t belabor it. However devoting massive resources to the day Of the vote rather than the days Before the vote is so mindboggling that my expectations have once again been decreased. This is like an Army General training hundreds of soldiers to simultaneously signal how things are going on in their little foxhole in the middle of the battle rather than worrying about the ammunition, supplies and recruitment of the soldiers. If this is true you have just shown Romney to be a fraud at organizational strategy and analysis and as out to lunch as Obama. Just so Repubs know next time, Dems were going door to door around here the days Before the vote to pressure their voters to get to the polls and troubleshooting transportation issues.

  • “Just so Repubs know next time, Dems were going door to door around here the days Before the vote to pressure their voters to get to the polls and troubleshooting transportation issues.”

    Dems always do, because traditionally their voters are less reliable at showing up. That is one of the reasons why they put such an emphasis on early voting and absentee ballots. Republicans usually just need to worry about getting out ten percent or less of their voters on election day, and apparently this year the effort to get out that crucial ten percent was thoroughly fouled up.

  • Have you tried your hand at politics?

    Once was enough.

  • They love Obama. Period. No logic, nor reasoning, no facts will convince them otherwise.

    That is your problem. Political choice has deteriorated into a species of consumer preference or identity statement. Politics degenerates into a series of painstaking negotiations over patronage among social pillars. See Lebanon, ca. 1955.

  • Don,

    The level of organization by the Dems this year was far beyond what I have seen in the past. Despite their voters being extremely unmotivated they turned them out. The Repubs now need to turn out 15% of their voters.

  • Art Deco wrote, “That is your problem. Political choice has deteriorated into a species of consumer preference or identity statement. Politics degenerates into a series of painstaking negotiations over patronage among social pillars. See Lebanon, ca. 1955.”

    We should never compromise with the infanticide of the unborn or the santification of the filth of homosexual sodomy or the stifling of religious freedom. One does not negotiate with either satan or his minions.

  • Come on, Paul, no one’s talking about that. The House, Senate, and administration have to work together on some matters; that’s all.

  • Yes, Pinky, I suppose you’re right. Even at my place of employment I work side-by-side with two engineers who are liberal, progressive Democrats and we get along very well so long as the topic is “neutrons ‘R us”. But I avoid every discussion of politics with them. I have nothing in common with them on that topic, and I cannot afford to lose these two as friends and working partners simply because we can’t stand each other’s politics or religion. So yes, I understand. BTW, the majority of engineers with whom I work are conservative, not liberal, and Christian, not pagan.

  • Sure, it’s always easy to talk about neutrons, but conversations about protons and electrons are so charged.

  • Yeah, I actually wrote that. Shame on me. But the more time non-religious people spend with reasonable religious people, the more they realize that a person can be religious and reasonable. Princple and charity on matters of principle; charity on all other matters.

  • Ha! Ha! “Sure, it’s always easy to talk about neutrons, but conversations about protons and electrons are so charged.”

    Since a few days before the election I have been wearing my St. Benedict Crucifix to work – I am in a tie and sweater vest with the Crucifix proudly visible. No one – not even the irreligious – have voiced a problem with it. Even a senior manager from a European country saw it and never said a word.

    I can be religious, and be charitable and reasonable. In fact, doesn’t the religion of Jesus Christ require that? Rhetorical question.

  • First of all, if you have any questions if the democrats view pplitics as a war, you’ve haven’t paid close attention to politics. If we viewd the War on Terror as much a war as the dems view politics as a war, al Qaeda would have run up the white flag long ago.

    Speaking of white flags, with the election hardly over, you have John Boehner already indicating he is ready to cave. When Bush won reelection back in 2004 and the republicans padded their majority in the senate, did then minority leaders Reid and Pelosi run up the white flag? No. They dug their heels in and kept fighting. They took back both the House and Senate two years later.

    Before we even talk about the need for professional campagin organization, we need to come to terms with the fact that the republican leadership, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell needs to be replaced. We need to learn how to fight hard. We don’t have to be dirty, like the left. But we do have to fight hard. As much as I despise the left, I do admire thier willingness to not give up. We need to start emulating thqt, sans the dirty part.

    Any professional restructuring in our campaigns needs to be placed at the service of the grass roots conservative movement, not one that looks down on them like the establishment goons Rove et al. Whatever faults the Tea Party has, and yes they have some faults. After all, they are relatively a neophyte movement and as such they will make neophyte mistakes. BUt if it wasn’t for the Tea Party, there would be no Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, Rob Johnson, or Gov. Scott Walker (why Walker isn’t on more people’s short list as a 2016 presidential candidate is beyond me). They gave us the 2010 midterm victory and all they got in return is crapped on by the “professional” establishment. Oh, I almost forgot to mention what thaat idiot Cardenes who is now the head of the American Conservative Union said about the problem with old white guys. Yeah, parroting La Raza talking points is gonna be a winner for republicans…..ooookkkkaaayyy!

  • you have John Boehner already indicating he is ready to cave

    Re taxes and public sector borrowing, the accounting is fairly unforgiving.

  • Paul, when you have Boehner saying “Obamacare is the law of the land.” and giving up the fight against it on an ABC interview with Diane Sawyer, you get a sense that he is willing to cave on other things. At least he could have played it smart and shut his damned mouth!! You never ever, ever go into a political saying what you are willing to compromise. You go in projecting strength by having high demnds. So whe you compromise, you give up things that you never intended to get anyway. If you shoot for a whole loaf, you stand a better chance to get half the loaf. You shoot for half a loaf, you don’t even get crumbs.

  • Boehner should agree to a tax increase with the following provisos:

    1. The elimination of a mass of agencies and programs, large and small. The Food and Nutrition Service, the Farm Security Agency, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Department of Education, all of three components of the Department of Health and Human Services and all but a residuum of two others, all of the Federal Highway Administration other than the component which builds roads on federal land, about 50 free standing agencies, &c.

    2. The elimination of every kind of grant to local governments other than small indemnities and every kind of grant to state governments other than those for Medicaid, unemployment compensation, Interstate Highway maintenance, and general revenue sharing.

    3. The elimination of every kind of grant to commercial or philanthropic agencies.

    4. The elimination of every kind of deduction, exemption and special credit in the tax code; the inclusion of every kind of receipt in the definition of personal income other than gifts, Medicaid, and Medicare; and the inclusion of real capital gains and real capital losses in that definition.

    5. The institution of a non-discriminatory value added tax to meet extant Social Security obligations and debt service obligations (with automatic rebates to the public at large of any excess collection).

    6. The elimination of payroll taxes bar general income sequestrations to fund private retirement accounts.

    7. The end of collective bargaining for federal employees.

    8. Funding (going forward) of all civil and military pensions and fringes (bar benefits for in theatre war veterans) by clipping federal employees’ stated wages and salaries (with no ’employers’ contribution).

    9. Maintaining Medicare and Medicaid expenditure as a fixed share of domestic product through adding an escalating deductible each year.

    10. Placing the federal retirement age on a cohort-by-cohort escalator so as to attain and maintain a fixed ratio of retirees to workers.

    11. Structuring personal income tax liabilities as follows:

    (Income x common marginal rate) – x$ per household member = due

    People with a negative liability would receive standard contributions to medical and long term savings accounts and (in some cases) a bit of free cash capped at a particular share of earned income.

    12. The placement of all manner of federal assets on the auction bloc (the Postal Service, AmTrak, the Export Import Bank, the Farm Credit System, various and sundry loan portfolios, &c.).

    I doubt you could get the Democratic caucuses to agree to even one of the above.

  • I doubt you could get the Republican caucuses to agree to any of that either other than the Rand Paul caucus.

    Mitt Romney was explicitly against major cuts in spending as opposed to restraining growth which is all that Paul Ryan’s supposedly draconian budget does. I believe Connie Mack had the most draconian plan which was actually reduce spending by 1% each year for 5 or so years. Of course he couldn’t even beat Sen Nelson in FL.

    Given the far left Dems added to the Senate this cycle I think the country is in for a hard landing. And since NV and CA went easily for Obama with double digit unemployment a crash might only raise the Dems totals.

  • You have reconceptualized the Democratic congressional caucus as Nietzchean supermen: anything that does not kill them makes them stronger. George Will thought this way about the Iraqi insurgency. It’s dumb.

  • “1. Professionalism-The Democrats and their campaign staffs approach politics as a business, if not a war. Republicans have for far too long tolerated well-meaning amateurism as a substitute for professional competence in politics. Politics is a job like any other, and professional staffs can help take a lot of the ineffectiveness and clumsiness out of our campaigns.”

    Yes — politics/government IS the business for Democrats — it is how they and their constituents get money and earn a living — public sector jobs and government programs. Republicans are capitalists who are busy running businesses for money. Capitalists can always move their concerns to other countries if doing business in the U.S. hurts their bottom line — ex. the many firms who have relocated to Mexico and China. Republicans don’t necessarily rely on a friendly U.S. government for their paycheck. They have less incentive to get involved in politics and change how this country is run. It is too easy to go elsewhere.

  • No Art I think they are very ordinary people. It’s their organization and zealotry that are making the difference. They repeat the message in a variety of different venues as Mr Zummo noted in another post. The omnipresent saturation of their talking points is evident when I talk to people not particularly political who blindly repeat it. I cited two very specific examples in NV and CA which perfectly illustrated my statement. You missed the chance to respond or dispute it in a specific way. I could have also cited other examples in a number of European countries who support the same destructive policies all the way down and riot for more. Some countries there have pulled back from that spiral such as the Scandinavian countries. It might be worthwhile to see what makes the difference.

  • the person above who mentioned the Democratic tactics post-2004 (when they didn’t have a majority in either house) is apt.

    If there’s one thing I’d advise conservatives to do, it is: do not listen to any of the media talking points on how the GOP must “reform,” or the Beltway squishes who echo it. That isn’t to say certain things don’t need reform, whether we’re talking tactics, policy, candidate choices, etc. Just that the particular reform suggested by the media will obviously get us next to nothing with the intended groups. We cannot out-left the Left.

    i’m sure people on this site understand this, and i hope others don’t fall for it

  • Here’s another side to the election story. In St. Lucie County, Florida, 144% of eligible voters voted and in some districts 99% voted for Obama. In how many swing states was this scenario repeated? This is from the official St. Lucie County website. Take a look: You might find this interesting – vote totals in St Lucie county Florida. 141% turnout! Amazing. A very effective political machine there:

    http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf

George W. Obama?

Friday, November 9, AD 2012

 

 

 

“History may not repeat itself, but it rhymes a lot.”  Attributed to Mark Twain although it cannot be found in his writings.  Looking at the 2012 election I am struck by how much it reminds me of the 2004 election.  The Democrats that year were as confident of victory  as we Republicans were this year.  Bush derangement syndrome was in full bloom among the Democrats as it had been since the battle over Florida’s electoral votes, and the Iraq war, which the Democrats increasingly opposed as the insurgency went on, added to their Bush hatred.  Bush presided over an infinitely better economy than Obama in 2012 but the public was increasingly uneasy about Iraq as the insurgency went on and the casualty lists grew.

Democrat confidence rested upon their erroneous assumption that the wider public largely shared, to some degree, the antipathy they felt for Bush.  Additionally, with Gore having won the popular vote in 2000, it was assumed that Bush would not be that hard to beat.  John F. Kerry, a Massachusetts liberal Senator, was not a particularly inspiring nominee, but he kept close to Bush in the polls, occasionally taking the lead, and performed well in the debates in which Bush seemed somewhat tongue-tied and tired.  Election day closed with the Democrats gleefully examining exit polls which predicted a sweeping Kerry victory.  Alas for the Democrats it was not to be, as Bush, with the assistance of a good GOTV operation in Ohio, amassed a popular vote victory over Kerry by 2.4% and an electoral vote total of 286.  The Republicans padded their Senate majority with a total of 55 Republican senators at the end of the election and gained three seats in the House for a total of 232.

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  • What 2012 has proven to me is that the choice to vote for the lesser evil, just brings more evil

  • What 2012 has proven to me is that those who abstain from the political process on exaggerated moral scruples often help ensure the triumph of the worst candidate.

  • Seeber and all people that think that way: you are responsible for what “unexpectedly” will happen to your country.

  • What it proves to me…the catholic population at best is around 22% in the US. It could be that half maybe less voted for obama…your views and beliefs, although correct, are a big minority in this country…at the moment. Keep working, but stop fighting. Be proactive instead of confrontational…it’s your worse trait.

  • I rather think FD that a worse trait is not to proclaim Truth loudly and tirelessly, whether it be accepted or not.

  • Oh dear, Donald. I don’t want to think that francodrummer believes what he has just written. For his information, I feel bound to humbly remind him that God and Truth do not follow the Popular Vote. They are JUST ETERNAL and nothing can change that. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church does not go by Percentages and Popularity Contests. She just stands for the Truth which Christ brought to the World, the Truth which She has preserved, protected and proclaimed unchanged these 2,000+ years and which She shall continue to do until the End of Time.

  • I am intrigued… What is the difference between “working for” and “fighting on behalf of” our faith? Is it form of expression, venue, substance?

  • And when He had taught this, most of His disciples stopped walking with Him. then He turned to His Apostles and asked them. “Do you also want to Leave?” And Peter answered to Whom shall we go, You have the Words of Eternal Life”.

    Does that paraphrasing ring a bell, G-Veg?. God’s Truth does not fight nor does it CHANGE to please the majority. IT IS and the Author said: “I AM WHO AM”.

I Am Shocked, Shocked!

Thursday, November 8, AD 2012

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  • So,

    Who’s the governor and who controls the legislature? The sad thing is they didn’t need to cheat. I don’t think the Dems had 300k phony ballots although you never know. Do Nothing Casey won by a huge margin. He had the magic letter D by his name. The GOP Senate hopefuls across the country ran far behind Romney. They were about as popular as ants at a picnic.

  • My gut tells me that this election was rigged. If that makes me sound like a nut, that’s ok, I’ll take the hit. I refuse to believe that Romney got less votes than John McCain who was a weak candidate who ran a weak campaign. His votes either went down a rabbit’s hole or they flipped enough votes for Obama to “win.”

  • Siobhan,

    I think many Repubs stayed home. The Dems made many phone calls and mailings calls I believe concerning religious affiliaition and anyway many Repubs were not going to vote for another RINO as they saw it. This was known as a potential issue from last year. It happened. Not discounting massive cheating but a 2.5 million ballot difference is quite a lot.

  • “2.5 million ballot difference is quite a lot.”

    they think big don’t they! I agree with Siobahn. I don’t know how exactly, but that is my gut feeling too.

    Also I have always wondered why the Repub officials in Iowa couldn’t bring themselves to come to a Santorum victory count– what was up with that? I think the R muckety mucks always wanted Romney

  • Folks,

    Sorry but this is just evasion to not grapple with what happened. There is 10% unemployment (really) with another 10% underemployed. There is declining income, a shrinking workforce, an unpopular healthcare bill, EPA attacks on coal and oil, an impending debt crisis and a northeastern Repub moderate can’t obliterate the incumbent in PA, NH, OH, MI, WI and MN?? It should have been a wipeout but not a single poll ever indicated that, even Rasmussen and Gallup. Also how do you explain the even more miserable performance of the Senate candidates? If the national vote difference was a couple hundred thousand I would agree it was stolen. Here in VA I saw how efficient the Dems were in getting out their vote. They were a sullen and morose bunch but they went and pushed the D. The Repubs voter efforts were a joke by comparison.

  • I agree with you Rozin, with Mr McClarey, with the idea that a significant part of the electorate is seriously deficient in critical thinking skills, and with 50 years of liberal media suasion– and with Siobahn. I’m voting “all of the above”.

  • 1. The ‘new MS’ electronic machines that needed rebooting to begin etc.
    2. Where were those machines discovered that wouldn’t read R votes, only D?
    3. The vehement opposition to Voters showing ID’s. (Galls me)
    4. Murals of O in some polling place, I saw a report.
    5. How could the great numbers of people at Mitt Romney rallies compared to the numbers at O rallies have not voted?
    6. The popular vote is not so far off, considering the relationship of the admin to numbers, greed, and honesty.
    7. The admin’s overexercise of influence on media probably happened with areas of voting and incompetent workers.
    8. Nothing honorable or trustworthy about admin as precedent to believe this operation of 11/6 was properly done.
    9. Why aren’t the results more widely published for we the people?

  • Rozin, I hear what you’re saying, but I can’t get pass the fact that Romney and Ryan appeared so confident of victory to the point that Romney didn’t even prepare a concession speech. Maybe they were just good actors and maybe Romney was done in by hubris, but what about Michael Barone – the best analyst in the business. How could he be so off? The polls all showed a tight race, but they also showed that the enthusiasm was clearly with the people who wanted Obama gone. I know it can never be proven, but it just doesn’t add up.

    Here’s something interesting from The Ulsterman Report. Yes, I’m aware that we have to be careful with sites like this, but he does make some interesting points.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/07/data-points-to-a-powerful-romney-campaign-and-yet-he-lost/

  • Siobhan

    Go look at the Drudge Report and the “Romney shellshocked” link. They got the polls saying that Dem turnout would be high but they didn’t believe them. I said that the Dems I saw voting looked totally depressed but they had been pushed to the polls. The Dems didn’t bother pushing them to the rallies. Very smart.

  • Pennsylvania and Ohio have GOP governors. PA Governor Corbett – when he was attorney sought and convicted a LOT of Democrat state legislators. He could have done something about Philly voter fraud. Kasich, the Ohio governor, and a native of the Pittsburgh area (McKees Rocks) could have done something about the Cleveland fraud.

    What did they do? Nothing much.

It’s All The Social Conservatives Fault!

Thursday, November 8, AD 2012

I really, really wish I were joking about the title, but I’ve actually heard several folks seriously suggest this.  (Hugh Hewitt show had a co-host/guest suggest “dropping the abortion issue,” for example—thankfully, Hugh pointed out that was…not a great idea.)

In a campaign where social issues were not focused on, where the SoCon vote was assumed, where the entire point would be “It’s the economy, stupid” and our turnout dropped hugely… we should really ditch these social conservatives entirely and try to peel off some Democrat voters.  I was one of the folks that was saying at the beginning that we could not just assume we’d get our own base and that all we needed was to go after other groups, though I—like many others—thought that things were obviously bad enough that maybe the base could be taken for granted.

We tried the “shut up about social issues, focus on the financial short-term disaster.”   Shock shock, it didn’t work.  The “of course” votes didn’t show up, as best we can tell at this early of a time.  Of course there was fraud and probably voter suppression, but we knew from the start that we’d have to win so big that they couldn’t cheat.

I know the thinking Libertarians believe that Social Issues hurt us, and if we’d just drop them it would improve—but they ignore that if you let people do all the stupid stuff they immaturely desire, they are going to want to be saved by someone else.  (I’m ignoring the sub-group of thinking Libertarians that thinks having children at is a “personal choice” with no serious effect on the future of society, and mostly only something that ‘women want while they leach off men.’  I wish that last part was not a very slight paraphrase.)  Of course, thinking Libertarians think social issues hurt because when thinking Libertarians recognize the cause and effect of libertine personal actions in creating demand for a leech-State, they become at least isolationist conservatives, rather than Libertarians.  But I’m digressing.

So, we tried assuming that the rah rah Abortion!! stuff on Obama’s side would be enough to 1) get half our base out, and 2) get them to vote for Romney.  Clearly, that was wrong.

We focused on the economy.  I think we did pretty well on that, considering that Obama and Co could lie their tails off about what we actually said.  (It’s a given, sadly.)

That makes me think that we maybe should’ve beat on the military side of things a bit more as well.  I  have friends who are still active duty who thought I was blowing smoke up their rears when I told them there was never a protest when the Ambassador was killed, when that was known just days after the attack.  (Power Line linked an interview in a UK paper that included quotes from the guys who were opening a hospital with the Ambassador; they were on the phone when the attack started, and there was no mention of a protest, which would’ve been a pretty big deal.)

So, we need to actually make our own case, try to win the base before we try to peel folks off, and probably improve our communication networks.  I’m going to work even harder on applying this in person—when someone says something incredibly untrue in person, I’m going to politely correct them.  Yes, it’s uncomfortable and socially awkward, but that is what the other side’s tactics depend on.  At some point, the drunk in the party has to be confronted.  We’re there and past.

This is going to be especially hard on religious people.  There are a lot of very nice people who…well… voted for Obama because that’s what “nice” people do.  It’s never easy to stand up to family, no matter how wrong you know they’re being.

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  • You know what, I agree that it is Social Conservative’s fault, but not in the way most people think. We have utterly failed to transform the culture. Jesus gave us the commision to “Go out and make disciples of all nations”. If we had been doing that, this whole debacle would never have happened. It is time to get off the sofa and get out there and evangelize. 50% of Catholics voted for Obama. That is disgusting and needs to change.

  • “Of course, thinking Libertarians think social issues hurt because when thinking Libertarians recognize the cause and effect of libertine personal actions in creating demand for a leech-State, they become at least isolationist conservatives, rather than Libertarians. But I’m digressing.”

    We call ourselves Ron Paul supporters, or as I also like, paleo-libertarians. It’s just the Old Right.

    But to be clear: we are not “isolationist.” 18th century Japan was isolationist. 18th century America under the leadership of the founders was non-interventionist, foreign and domestic. Meaning the federal government stays out of both the lives of people living in other countries and the people living in this one as well. As for diplomacy and free trade, we are all for it, unlike isolationists, who aren’t. Along with Thomas Jefferson and Ron Paul, I also don’t object to the use of military force abroad if it is used to stop aggression against the U.S.

    I just think we’ve had the troops in the wrong parts of the world. They belong in the narco-terror state south of the border.

    It’s all a digression from your main point, though, with which I agree. Good post. We won’t be driven into silence by “libertarians” who fail to understand the connection between strong families and strong economies, or who blindly give into the demands of the totalitarian homosexualist movement.

  • We call ourselves Ron Paul supporters, or as I also like, paleo-libertarians. It’s just the Old Right.

    Roughly what the other Thinking Libertarians say as their evidence for why you’re not Libertarians…probably doesn’t help that they also exile the unthinking type college libertarians?
    (It’s a bit like the issue with children and abortion and such– a sizable chunk of the TLs want the woman to be responsible for their own and the man’s “fun,” with children being non-beings without rights or responsibilities. Yes, it’s all male, that I’ve spoken to. Most annoying thing about Ricochet….)

    Glad you like the broader point, though.

    I wonder what the effect of “GOProud” and those idiots that tried to claim the TEA party was all about ditching social issues had on turn out….

  • Well I suppose all the “smart people” will tell us that Santorum can’t be that guy next time because he has too much baggage. Why we should listen to them I have no idea, but I think building off what he did in the primary would be a big advantage and he’ll have surely learned alot about how to get his message across.

    Again the “Smart People” will tell us that women still hate him, but I can’t see how we can truly get less women than Romney got and Santorum is much more attractive to the base and to middle class and to the hispanic community than Romney was.

    Too bad the Smart People will tell us he can’t win, like they told us Romney could.

  • I would never support Rick Santorum in a GOP primary. If he somehow won a GOP primary to become a presidential candidate, I still wouldn’t vote for him. At that point I would simply not vote or vote 3rd party. He is explicitly pro-war and would bankrupt this country through military adventurism.

  • “He is explicitly pro-war”? Parrot Ron Paul much?

  • Do you think it’s time that the Christian Conservatives just say the heck with both parties and form their own? Perhaps with people like Sarah Palin and Allen West leading the way? They certainly have the charisma to jump start it. In hindsight, during the primaries, Romney was much tougher on Santorum and Gingrich than he was on Obama. There seemed to be a deliberate effort to exclude the socons from political influence which has turned the GOP into democrat lite – so what’s the real difference? The people need to have a party that truely speaks for them and their beliefs with no compromise on the moral/social issues.

  • My only option is Rand Paul. He isn’t completely anti-war (neither am I), but at least he understands that fiscal conservatism is incompatible with Wilsonian idealist adventurism abroad. He is also a social conservative, opposing abortion and “gay marriage.” And of course he is his father’s son and would do as much as he could to dismantle the intrusive federal bureaucracy that is attempting to take total control of our lives.

    Yes, I “parrot” Ron Paul, but only because he parrots the founding fathers as well as the greatest economic minds of the 20th century.

  • There is such a party. It’s called the Constitution Party. Here is its platform: http://www.constitution-party.net/party_platform.php

    BTW, here is a link to Rick Santorum on the issues. He is a hard right Conservative. But he isn’t a war monger.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rick_Santorum.htm

  • Such a party would ensure overwhelming Democrat political domination for the next generation and cause the enactment of social policies in every state diametrically opposed to the beliefs of social conservatives. There are precious few Democrats who are social conservatives who would join such a party and such a party would need to have stands on all the issues which would quickly lead to the same sorts of divisions that currently exist in the Republican party on economic and foreign policy isssues. For myself, I am a plain old conservative: economic, foreign policy and social.

  • Paul P,

    I deleted the offensive portion of my comment and your reply to it. I went too far, I acknowledge that.

  • David Frum was singing the same song – the Republicans need more social diversity – after the 2008 elections, and I am sure his clones would do the same now. Giving them credence will bring death to the Republicans, for at the bottom what animates most of these social libertarians is a hatred of Christianity.

  • Here’s a must-read for conservatives. (Paulists probably don’t need to bother)

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/333010/election-and-right-yuval-levin#

  • I’ve been reading a lot of political sites. Every single ones either has posts calling for dropping the social issues or commenters writing in and saying quit talking about abortion.

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  • Daisy observed the following, “I’ve been reading a lot of political sites. Every single ones either has posts calling for dropping the social issues or commenters writing in and saying quit talking about abortion.”

    If the GOP abandons its support for the life of the unborn child or for traditional marriage between one man and one woman, then I will vote for a third party such as the Constitution Party. We should no longer put our trust in the princes of this world. Furthermore, I do not think that it matters any longer who wins because the culture has become so thoroughly pagan and hedonistic that nothing save utter catastrophe can reverse things. That was the case in ancient Israel and Judah, and we are seeing history repeating itself again.

    Now there are others here at TAC who are far more optimistic than I and believe that we can salvage something using the political process. I pray that those individuals are correct and I incorrect. But after seeing the filthy advertisements on national TV and on the internet that the Democrats ran (a girl saying that voting for the first time is like having sex for the first time, so do it with the right guy – Obama), the general rot and refuse on popular TV, the barbaric body piercings young and old alike sport in public places, and all the other disguting stuff, I am convinced that short of the miracle of God’s grace, we as a nation are headed towards the fall that we so richly deserve. Popular entertainment TV shows like the Mentalist or Castle or Elementary that show dominate women and weak men as a norm to be emulated are merely symptoms of a decay that has long progressed into terminal cancer, except the patient isn’t aware he will die because he is feeling no pain. This exists all over, so when Obama runs his war on women theme, he wins – either people don’t care, or people do care and support him.

    Nope, I won’t support the GOP if it gives up on social conservativism. And if the country goes to hades as Israel and Judah did, then that too is a part of God’s plan. Viva Cristo Rey! The persecution the Cristeros faced will be repeated.

  • I’ve been reading a lot of political sites. Every single ones either has posts calling for dropping the social issues or commenters writing in and saying quit talking about abortion.

    Probably by the same folks that urged the “don’t talk about it” tactic for this election….

    Paul: watch something else! Good heavens, Warehouse 13 manages to have a very masculine guy… he acts like a goofball, and then goes and is utterly awesome nearly every episode. *grin* Need more decent, upbeat goofballs.

    Sure, TV sucks. Seems like it always has…..

  • Love WHSE 13, Foxfier. Usually watch the Science Channel, though, or H2.

  • I know the thinking Libertarians believe that Social Issues hurt us, and if we’d just drop them it would improve…
    –Foxfier

    If only those TLs (thinking Libertarians) could explain why the Libertarian “no social issues here” Party vote didn’t crack 1% of the total vote despite the millions of voters unhappy with Social Issues talk.

    P.S. When I remind TLs that the Democrat party is chock full of its own Social Issues agendas, they suddenly want to change the subject.

  • The Democrats always bring up their social issues. Abortion (strike that, it’s the right to choose, but they never finish the sentence), gay marriage, etc.

    Romney did not get involved in social issues and it is still the social conservatives’ fault Romney lost. Yeah, right. I heard Ann Coulter thinks this. Coulter can pound sand.

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  • If the news outlets would quit pretending the 400,000 marchers in DC didn’t exist…

The Road Back

Thursday, November 8, AD 2012

 

 

About one day of being depressed over the election results is as much as I can stomach.  Here are some practical suggestions for electoral comeback:

1.  Professionalism-The Democrats and their campaign staffs approach politics as a business, if not a war.  Republicans have for far too long tolerated well-meaning amateurism as a substitute for professional competence in politics.  Politics is a job like any other, and professional staffs can help take a lot of the ineffectiveness and clumsiness out of our campaigns.

2.  The Mainstream Media are an Arm of the Democrat Party-Republicans often react with shock and helplessness when they learn for the millionth time that most of the Mainstream Media owe their entire allegiance to the left-wing of the Democrat party.  It is not a fact to bemoan, but one to accept and to plan for.  Attack the media constantly for its bias and have plans to go over the heads of the members of the media to reach the voters.

3.  Conservative and Proud-Too often conservatives act as if they are ashamed of being conservatives for fear of alienating voters.  This is a mistake.  Confident assertion of what a candidate believes in is the only honest and effective means to win votes.

4.  Leave no Attack Unanswered-Romney left unanswered a constant barrage of attacks against him, husbanding his resources for a media blitz in the final weeks.  The election results demonstrate what a mistake this was.

5.  Outreach to Minorities-The Republicans cannot win national elections when they lose 95% of the Black vote and two out of three Hispanic votes. Conservative groups among Blacks and Hispanics must receive large funding from the Republican party and not just in election years. We have many able Republican members of minority groups who can spearhead this effort.  This is not tokenism or racial spoils, but an effort to engage conservative members of minority groups in forging a movement that can convert and inspire all Americans for the benefit of the entire nation.

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  • Good points. I would like to bring up a thought for discussion about the professional /amateur politicians part.
    The word “amateur” has to do with love. Amateurs are lovers whether they are tennis players or oarents. The laity at church who volunteer to do the weekly reading, lead the Christmas pageants, sit on the school boards, town council– all amateurs.
    Some amateurs are more brilliant than others! George Washington for example, who was not a career politician, but a gentleman farmer who loved.
    if professional means hired hands with degrees and knowledge of marketing as qualifiers–I can see that– but first of all they should be amateurs– who love.

    If the republican party goes to decision makers who do not love the ideals that now signify the GOP they will have lost the most important thing. Those ideals are winning people over.
    Many people just beginning to trust the Republicans left the Democratic party (or it left us) over so called “social” issues. All issues are social. All issues come down to love (Deuteronomy)

  • I was thinking Anzlyne of staffers who actually know the nuts and bolts of politics: how to set up an effective get out the vote campaign for instance. If they are dedicated conservatives all the better, but for too long the Republican party in campaigns has tolerated truly reprehensible shoddy staff work.

  • The Romney Campaign website is a good example of your point Don. When Ryan was selected as his running mate, there was plenty of momentum because Ryan is an articulate and attractive guy… So my wife tells me anyway. However, a search by Ryan’s name didn’t bring you to the official campaign website. The first two pages of a Google search led to blogs and unrelated pages aince his name is common. Not so for the Dems since their official site was always first in search results by “Biden” and “Obama”.

    I looked into this and both of the IT folks I asked told me that a relatively minor expense would move the Romney sit up in the rankings if the campaign paid a provider to “hit on” the site with searches.

    Simple trick, not terribly costly, and not immoral…

    The GOP acts like the campaigns of yesteryear will suffice. They won’t and rewarding “loyal” rank-and-file with influential positions in campaigns is daft. Merit should be the primary consideration.

  • It’s just as important to recognize Trending Blue States as it is Trending Red States. The Repubs are increasingly playing a game of thread the needle. The results are obvious,

  • yes- I am for for efficient and effective! I guess underlying my worry was keeping the raison d’etre. There are no doubt things that can be learned and improved.. but remember why R attracted so many ex D (who after all see themselves as lovers!)

  • #2 – I read an article recently, maybe on Slate, about how the conservative alternate press has lost momentum. It developed in response to the mainstream press – talk radio, MRC, Fox News, et cetera. The left responded to online media critics with Media Matters-type organizations, who are critics of the conservative media. They converted MSNBC into a Fox News-type format. The “mainstream” press looks more mainstream when it’s got critics on the left and right, and the Confirmation Bias Left has a steady stream of material just like their counterparts on the Right.

    #5 – I was listening to Chris Corr’s radio show this morning. He opened it up to only Hispanic callers, asking them what the Republicans need to do to make inroads. The consensus seemed to be: amnesty. Not freebies, not something for nothing, but amnesty for those in the US.

    #8 – Libertarianism is cool among the kids. That’s a problem. At least when liberalism was cool, there was a sense of commitment to the common welfare. Now it’s social liberalism and fiscal conservatism – or, from a religious standpoint, selfishness. I worry that the cultural difference between the average kid and the evangelical kid makes it tough for the traditional moral code to find its way into the mainstream lexicon.

  • I probably have a more dystopian view of the nation now. Many of the items listed are items mentioned before the election, and many followed through on it. Result: Failure.

    My view is dystopian for the following reasons:

    1. A significant portion of the public has under developed critical thinking skills. They accept an argument at face value, e.g. “I have the right to choose,” and are unwilling or unable to delve into the argument any deeper. Too many live lives on the FM dial rather than AM. People laughed at Obama for doing interviews at all those pop culture outlets during a campaign. Turns out that was very wise because the content on those venues exhibits the depth of too many people’s thinking.

    BTW, I think this a challenge for the Church too. Understanding the Catholic position on some issues requires thinking… thinking deeply. I call Catholicism the “thinking man’s Christianity.” The others are very emotion driven, which is a close cousin to the FM society.

    So, for much of the recommended list to work requires a thinking society. And with a broken education system, this isn’t going to happen soon.

    2. The absence of a virtuous society. Much of America is self-serving and obsessed with convenient and expedient solutions. “What’s in it for me? And, don’t bug me about getting it done or its costs.” This runs against the grain of conservatism because it sometimes requires giving up personal gain. It requires evaluating worthiness of solutions, weighing the costs with the benefit. To the FM society, this is selfless, laborious and too time consuming. Just give out free birth control if someone wants it. Done!

    This is a two edge sword for conservatives because while it cuts, it has also served the conservative argument on cutting taxes. The problem is many supported lower taxes because they saw what’s in for them, more money in their wallet. They did not support lower taxes because higher taxes represented a reduction of freedom and rise of government power or because it was a good economic argument that money in the private sector being more productive than money in the government.

    For an additional take on a virtuous society, watch the first 30 minutes of Bill Whittle’s video. I don’t quite get the remaining hour of it. A conservative’s Angies List maybe.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02SypCcYIc&feature=g-user-u

    3. They don’t get “it” until it all comes to a grinding halt. I believe no argument is more persuasive than disaster. For example, no conservative speak enough hours on the dangers of terrorism and radical Islam and be as persuasive as 9/11. People simply don’t want to think about, deal with or having anything to do with issues until they see evidence of a problem that personally affects them. The debt could be $160 trillion, and the general populace will not care at all about it if day to day life is generally unaffected.

    There are more reasons for my view, but those are the top 3. I have personally tried recommended item #4. I have walked liberals through their arguments until it hits a brick wall and under normal conditions, they would have to change their mind. Any sense of reasonableness would cause the mind to change or at least request more time to think on the issue. But, they either go silent with no answer or resort back to their superficial argument, e.g. “People have a right to do what they want with their bodies.” And, they are not going to request more time to think on it. See my point #1 above.

    I think America will continue its re-uniting with Europe socially, politically, intellectually and culturally. American exceptionalism, altruism, personal responsibility and freedom as outlined in the Declaration will be relegated to the list of archaic notions.

  • I thought of my point 4. Still not in top 3, but a serious challenge to conservatives and the Church and a contributing factor to the top 2.

    4. The color of gray. Making good choices requires understanding there is a right and a wrong path. For too many, when they are unable to clearly understand issues fallback on the argument that nothing is really right or wrong. Everything is gray. People maybe get this way out of laziness or they are constantly being fed the hero/anti-hero line in pop culture.

    This spills over into politics. “Both parties are equally corrupt and have basically the same answers which neither will deliver on. No one party offers anything truly better than the other.” This is partially what feeds the third parties, especially with the confused youth of today. They embrace third party as a way to stay in the gray zone. It’s a comfortable place. And when the two major factions rip each other up and achieve nothing, they can say “Well, don’t blame me.” They never have to stick their neck out because the parties never have enough power to be in a position to take that risk.

  • Hogwash. I’m with you on the rest but third parties aren’t the result of looking for an easier intellectual path. Third parties tend to be very specific and directed towards a narrow concern that the major parties won’ address as radically as third party members want.

    Look at the Green Party. They did surprisingly well in local races around the country. (For the record, I don’t see the connection between the state and local entities and between the Greens in the states. They look like individual entities of loosely affiliated groups.) They argue that neither party is serious about environmental causes and they certainly look to have a point. There is no lack of specific proposals or specifically identified evils.

    I’m with you on the rest, but not on this last point.

  • Kyle Miller wrote in part, “A significant portion of the public has under developed critical thinking skills. They accept an argument at face value…”

    This is true not just of members of the general public, but sometimes even an otherwise quite erudite and well-informed blogger or two here at TAC. Example: a blogger wrote in a totally unrelated post something to the effect of the following, “Fukushima continues to threaten all life on Earth.” The statement is ludicrous at face value. Yet without any substantiating web links to reputable nuclear engineering and radiation protection sources, it was made.

    I use this not to get side-tracked about an irrelevant issue to the topic of this post, but to point out that even otherwise well-educated people sometimes lack the ability to apply their critical thinking skills when the topic involves something to which they may have an emotional attachment or on which they lack education, and that criticism which I am making applies very much to my own self (as most of you already know). I am guilty as charged.

    What all of us have to do is engage our brains before our mouths or our keyboards, and again I am guilty all too many times of failing to do that (hence Donald McClarey’s oft repeated warning to back off or calm down). We have to use logic – dispassionate reason – passionately. And we have to get the facts to the last decimal place if need be. That means using history as it is and not as it is re-written (a subject in which Donald is expert and I amm ignorant), and using real science (a subject about which I know a thing a two), not the false scientism of materialistic evolution or the anti-nuclear eco-wacko propaganda from those who haven’t spent a day of their lives working in a nuclear power plant (to refer again to my example).

    Only Truth matters whatever the subject or topic may be, and Truth is NOT a thing but a Person – the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

    OK, enough of my ranting.

  • KM lists 3 points

    1.A significant portion of the public has under developed critical thinking skills.

    When has this statement Not been true. Perhaps in the past people were less insulated from the consequences of bad choices and thus had more common sense. Take the McGovern $1000 grant. Even low info voters back then understood that this was ridiculous. Today they would say why not $10,000?

    The answer has to be figuring out a way to communicate the message (different than changing the message) to the low info voter. The problem is that Repubs have fecklessly allowed their microphone to be taken away and they never tried to get a new one. The Repub establishment really hates the alternative media as well so forget that

    2. The absence of a virtuous society.

    Again this is a relative thing although I think it’s on sounder ground. In such times there’s a feeling “that you have to grab it fast because you know it will not last.” Thus Obama’s advocacy of partial birth abortion is no big deal but some one-off statement from Mourdock or Akin is finis.

    3.They don’t get “it” until it all comes to a grinding halt.

    Again like #1 when has this Not been true. But Dems seem to able to convince voters that Repubs will take away their b/c pills although it never happens.

  • As far as outreach to minorities a couple of things need to be borne in mind. 10 Our appeal to hispanics and other minorities have have an inclusive tone in that we need to appeal to them as Americans, not as whatever hypen they have. All too often repulicans try to pander to Hispanics by defending illegal immigration, thinking that’s gonna get more Hispanic votes. All the while, the Democrats not only defend illegal immigration but also put them on the welfare dole.

    I have believed for a long time that the left will continue to play the race card so long as conservatives allow themselves to be intimidated by it. Conservative response to left race baiting is Pavlovian. I mean the response to Rick Perry owning a piece of property having the word “Niggerhead” written on a rock, should have been “So, what?” All the while it’s the left that are the real racists and need to be called out as such. It’s time to demonize the demons. They need to start running ads on how leftist policies victimize minorities, especially blacks.

    They need to put the correct back in political correctness.

  • Greg M. stated in part, “All the while it’s the left that are the real racists and need to be called out as such. It’s time to demonize the demons.”

    A truer statement has not been made. The left supports abortion that disproportionately murders more black babies percentage-wise. The left supports Planned Parenthood that started as a eugenics program against black people. The left is the Democratic Party which supported slavery 160 years agot. The left supports social welfare programs that keep minorities including black people dependent on the teat of the public treasury instead of being independent and self-supporting. The left is nothing but racist in all that it does.

  • I’m with you on the rest but third parties aren’t the result of looking for an easier intellectual path. Third parties tend to be very specific and directed towards a narrow concern that the major parties won’ address as radically as third party members want.

    I tried to carefully word that point because I knew there were people here with an affiliation with or affection for 3rd parties. So look at what I wrote… “This is partially what feeds the third parties,” I work with youth and every one of them that are third party are there for the reasons I stated. Third party adults are sometimes a different story.

    I realize there are third party members entirely because of other reasons. Addressing some of those reasons is another post.

    The Green Party didn’t do well in Texas. 😀

    We have to use logic – dispassionate reason – passionately. And we have to get the facts to the last decimal place if need be.

    True. But what do you do when someone is faced with every logical argument and there is simply no way out for the receiver to slip away from reason? “So, you see? The sun does rise in the east.” Response: “Yes we can!” (face palm)

    This mental stubbornness, this inability to take in new information and come to new conclusion, is where we are. And why the stubbornness? I used to think it’s a pride problem. It still is, but I think it’s mostly because truth threatens self-interest.

    Rozin,

    1. I mostly agree, but I think on average, America of the past was more reasoned, more rightly skeptical. Maybe I’m a romantic. Back then, information came at a slower pace. Decisions are formed by the intake of information and processed by reason and conscience. Today, there is more information coming at a faster pacer and with lots of noise. Combine this with unnurtured reason and a malformed conscience, and you have the recipe for making a bad decision. That’s what we have today.

    2. Why do you think people get more angry about a bad call by substitute refs vs. a president covering up a Libya debacle or (insert hot topic here)? I’ve seen more people get passionate about the NFL substitute refs than the long list of issues that really matter. These are people I never see show passion about anything. That’s just one example.

    3. I guess I should have specified “it” being truth or the consequences of bad decisions. The public buys propaganda for all the reasons I mentioned above, but that is not evidence of them getting “it.”

  • I largely agree with Rozin’s response. The Catholic emphasis should be on improving the morals of a population. Improving their thinking is more of an Enlightenment approach, and it’s not necessarily a winner.

    Kyle made a great point about tax cuts. It’s a Republican hallucination to think that everyone became a supply-sider in 1980. The truth is, they heard “taxes lower blah blah blah” and it made sense. Now they hear “someone else’s taxes blah blah” and it makes just as much sense. I made a comment earlier equating libertarianism and selfishness. I probably overstated it, but the idea is similar to Kyle’s. Morally, the idea of sexual license and low taxes isn’t much different from the idea of sexual license and raising other people’s taxes, unless the tax argument is grounded in a notion of human freedom. There is a legitimate libertarian instinct that’s compatible with Catholicism, too (nod to Bonchamps), but an immoral libertarianism doesn’t do anyone any good. This goes back to the morals vs. intellect question.

  • Pinky says The Catholic emphasis should be on improving the morals of a population. Improving their thinking is more of an Enlightenment approach, and it’s not necessarily a winner.

    Yes yes yes. Morals come first then critical thinking. Unmoored rationality seems to result in desperation and nihilism.

  • Kyle M. said in part, quoting me at the beginning, “‘We have to use logic – dispassionate reason – passionately. And we have to get the facts to the last decimal place if need be.’ True. But what do you do when someone is faced with every logical argument and there is simply no way out for the receiver to slip away from reason? ‘So, you see? The sun does rise in the east.’ Response: ‘Yes we can!’ (face palm)”

    Perhaps this is crude, cruel and crass, but sometimes people have to suffer and die as a consequence of their decisions and no amount of compassion and reason to the contrary can save them. This is exactly like the alcoholic who knows that he has a terminal disease for which there is no cure, and the only respite is complete abstinence and attendance at 12 Step meetings. To see what our society is like, go to the middle paragraph on PDF page 3 or physical page 32 here:

    http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_bigbook_chapt3.pdf

    Then go to PDF page 6 or physical page 35 and read Jim’s story that lasts until PDF page 8 or physical page 37. Jim is typical of the average person in our society that is drunk with sex and luxury.

    Now the example is alcoholism, but really, how is that any different from the sexual addiction that enslaves far too many people today? This is exactly what St. Paul wrote about in Romans chapter 7 when he was discussing our enslavement to sin and asked rhetorically who would deliver us from such bondage. The answer is Jesus – only God’s grace. That’s always the only answer. And when Bill Wilson wrote AA’s Big Book and used those examples which I cited above, I feel certain that he had St. Paul’s writing in mind.

    One cannot reason with a committed liberal progressive Democrat any more than one can reason with an alcoholic who hasn’t reached his bottom yet. I fear, however, in our case that the bottom will be a lot more painful than what an alcoholic has to reach before he goes into recovery – and some don’t make it that far. They die. My 2nd sponsor told me that some people have to die that others may live. We know that’s true – Deicide, Crucifixion of our Lord. That’s the reality. St. Paul knew that. So did Bill Wilson.

  • KM

    I think points 1 and 3 are converging with the idea of practical knowledge of action and consequence. No question that there was a better sense of that in the past. Maybe it will return in the near future.

  • MT 25:35-26 For I was…a stranger and you welcomed me.

    Full blown immigration welcoming is in order if the Republican Party is to survive. No way around that. As simple as that. Doesn’t Jesus command us to welcome the stranger anyways? And these strangers are practicing catholics to boot! Sheesh it seems like a no-brainer. Is having someone like Barrack Hussein Obama president worth not embracing the stranger wholeheartedly? Really?!? Can people sleep at night better thinking, well we might have Obama president but at least we haven’t given amnesty! Seriously?!

  • The GOP and conservatives DO welcome immigrants. So much so that we wouldn’t find ourselves being absurdly unfair to people who come here legally at great personal expense by turning a blind eye to people who simply cross the border.

    Anyway, you are confusing precepts of personal morality with national policy, and meanness with concern for the cultural, fiscal, and territorial integrity of the United States. Mass illegal immigration is not sustainable, and it isn’t desirable. By all means be kind to the people you meet in your daily life. But as a matter of policy, support the survival of your country and the rule of law. Catholics don’t get a free pass to do whatever they want from other Catholics.

  • I’ve had to delete and rewrite so many times because this is a very educated blog and I didn’t want to go all uneducated on ya’ll but they’re so many things wrong with what you say that I feel the need to reply something, so I’ll just bare bone it:

    Opening Thesis:

    Option A: Godless elite leading America= not good

    Option B: God-fearing servants leading America= very good

    Body:

    Option A will remain if it continues to get elected.

    Option B must take up cross, trust in the LORD, embrace the stranger and get e-l-e-c-t-e-d

    Conclusion:

    The LORD will Bless land with people who trust in him with option B leadership.
    The LORD will have a harder time helping land that falls further into abomination with the help of option A leadership.

    Bonus:

    Legal immigration is a total nightmare to go through. You can’t imagine how hard it is to want to do things right but having the hardest time trying to do so.

  • It IS sustainable to embrace the stranger because the LORD blesses you!

    E.G.; Heartland Draws Hispanics to Help Revive Small Towns
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443696604577645500654098514.html

    Check out this rant by a liberal fearing Rep Governor Susana Martinez in 2016:
    http://frankwu.livejournal.com/384100.html

    Now re-evaluate Susana Martinez’s GOP convention speech:

  • Well, I’m glad you opted for a logical argument.

    I would quibble semantically with “Option B.” I don’t side with the GOP because it is “God fearing.” George W. Bush was supposedly God-fearing, but he did little to solve the deep structural problems of this country. I salute his pro-life efforts, quite a bit was accomplished, but on foreign policy and/or immigration he was as horrendous as any of his Democratic predecessors from Clinton down through LBJ and as far back as Woodrow Wilson.

    On the other hand, Rand Paul doesn’t strike me as particularly “God fearing” though I imagine he is a believer of some kind. He is pro-life and pro-marriage for many of the same reasons I am: reasons that are almost entirely secular. He’s my choice for 2016 and the day he announces his candidacy is the day I join the campaign.

    I reject the notion that you have a pipeline to the LORD, through which he communicates to you his party and policy preferences. Unless you can point out some precept of the natural law or divine law that forbids the establishment of territorial boundaries or laws that regulate the flow of people through those boundaries, you really have no argument to make. “Welcome the stranger” does not necessarily or likely mean “open the borders, dole out billions in welfare and benefits to non-citizens who send most of their income abroad in the form of remittances, and fail to demand linguistic and cultural assimilation.” This punishes the citizen who pays taxes and the legal immigrant who waited in line. I don’t see anything particularly moral about that.

    Just be honest, at least. Stop hiding behind “the LORD” and tell the truth: you want the GOP to radically alter its policies to appease emotional demands for votes. If you think that’s a viable strategy, fine. I think it stinks.

  • “It IS sustainable to embrace the stranger”

    This is semantic B.S. To identify your policy preferences with the moral precept of “embracing the stranger” is illogical and dishonest. I do welcome strangers in my midst. What I don’t embrace are policies that will destroy my country.

  • Long time reader, first time commenter. I have to admit I read sites like this just as people rubberneck after a car crash. The complete lack of self-awareness among you people is fun to read, and many of you would meet Hegel’s definition of a “beautiful soul”: people too caught up with principle to fully engage the world. I don’t believe I have to elaborate, but I think sooner or later the people who pay the bills for your quixotic crusades are going to make all of your change your tune, even so they can just get their money’s worth:

    http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/11/quote-day-americas-billionaires-are-pissed-karl-rove

    And pace what everyone has said here, that is going to mean getting down from your hobby horses and outright lying. After all, that’s what Obama does, which is why I voted Green. It’s all just smoke and mirrors, and until the GOP embraces that, they are going to have their asses handed to them. I can say this because I live in a solid Red State. Trust me, this ain’t the future, and if it is the future, there is no hope for humanity. (There might be no hope anyway, but this path is particularly dismal.)

    Then again, you can double-down on your fundamentalisms on human reproductive parts and natural law theories (basically marrying God and Mammon), but that would only remind me of fellow commie Bertolt Brecht’s poem written after the first anti-Stalinist uprising in 1953:

    After the uprising of the 17th of June
    The Secretary of the Writers Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?

  • Of your Responses I read, few are pointing out the Will of God in what has just happened to your beloved Country. Can someone dig into this and explain what God is telling America. Of special interest to us who have been praying for you is: what is He telling the Bride of Christ in America???? If we can discern His message here, we can begin to know what He wants us all to do. Remember, nothing happens without His Will and Permission, even the Evil things like this Disaster of epic proportions which has just befallen the U.S. of America

  • “Long time reader, first time commenter. I have to admit I read sites like this just as people rubberneck after a car crash. The complete lack of self-awareness among you people is fun to read, and many of you would meet Hegel’s definition of a “beautiful soul”: people too caught up with principle to fully engage the world. I don’t believe I have to elaborate, but I think sooner or later the people who pay the bills for your quixotic crusades are going to make all of your change your tune, even so they can just get their money’s worth:”

    No one gives us a dime. We are all unpaid volunteers, so that means we can engage in our “quixotic crusade” forever.

    “And pace what everyone has said here, that is going to mean getting down from your hobby horses and outright lying.”

    What lying?

    “After all, that’s what Obama does, which is why I voted Green.”

    Well, that means that you are a far left zealot undisguised which gives you a point for honesty if not for judgment.

    “Trust me, this ain’t the future,”
    Leftists have such a charming, albeit completely erroneous, belief in their ability to discern the future as they completely misunderstand and misinterpret both the present and the past.

    “Then again, you can double-down on your fundamentalisms on human reproductive parts”
    The sacredness of innocent human life is a concept as foreign to you as algebra is to an albatross isn’t it?

    “and natural law theories”
    I doubt if you could define natural law if your soul depended upon it and wikipedia is of no assistance whatsoever.

    ” After the uprising of the 17th of June
    The Secretary of the Writers Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?”

    I have always liked that poem. Then I recall that initially Brecht supported the measures to crush the protests implemented by the East German regime, and any disgust he felt thereafter never caused him to give up his status as a “kept intellectual” of the regime. He thought he saw the future in East Germany and thank the God in which Brecht did not believe that he was wrong about that also.

  • “I doubt if you could define natural law if your soul depended upon it”

    Oh, he can. It just makes him all the more culpable.

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    Recall that, through Jeremiah, God twice calls Nebuchadnezzer “My servant” (Jer 27:6, 43:10) and through Isaiah, he calls Cyrus “My servant” and “His anointed” (Isaiah 44:28, 45:1). Whether they knew it or not, they were God’s instruments, fulfilling His hidden purposes.

    St Augustine explains, “But God, just as He is the supremely good Creator of good natures, so He is the most just exploiter of evil wills; so that, while they make an bad use of good natures, He makes a good use even of evil wills.” (my translation – Sed Deus sicut naturarum bonarum optimus creator est, ita malarum uoluntatum iustissimus ordinator; ut, cum illae male utuntur naturis bonis, ipse bene utatur etiam uoluntatibus malis) [De Civ Dei, XI, 17]

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  • I don’t want to have to argue with you people, since it ruins the entertainment value of reading. but my understanding of the natural law flows from the pithy scholastic axiom: operatio esse sequitur. That is: action follows from being. In the sexual realm, one could say that “Tab A enters Slot B”. A thing must act according to its being. Humans’ ultimate end is God (homo capax Dei), but they could only achieve that end through grace, though grace builds on “nature” but doesn’t do violence to it (gratia perficit et non tollit naturam). Theologians, riffing off of Aristotle, thus began to conceive of “natural ends” to human endeavors: natural hierarchies between classes, sexes, races, etc. Ultimately, these ends were accepted in a fallen, unredeemed cosmos as absolute in themselves, and coming directly from the nature of the very individuals in question (thus, Aquinas accepting that a woman was inferior in her nature and thus by that token subordinate to a man). Of course, people like John Paul II updated such conceptions to suit modern tastes (see his theology of the body), and in the political and economic realm, such theorists as Murray Rothbard, Alasdair Macintyre, and others have tried to recuperate the theories with mixed success. In Catholic theology, the voice that perhaps undermined the idea of natural law the most (perhaps not intentionally) was Henri Cardinal de Lubac, in his work on the problem of the supernatural in Catholic theology, at first rejected by Pius XII in his 1950 encyclical Humani Generis, but later widely adopted as having a point in most Catholic circles.

  • Try again. Think of Cicero. Perhaps one of our contributors or commenters could give EML a hand?

  • It is possible that Jesus would count as a racist today. He insulted the Canaanite woman pleading for her daughter’s life, by making an unkind reference to dogs. What I take away from this portion is that it appears alright to put one’s own tribal affiliations above that of outsiders. He did of course cure the woman’s daughter but that is another part of the story.

    Welcoming the stranger is all very good, but sometimes the stranger is here to take your job or at least drive you to a seventy-hour week in desperation. it happened in the software industry where sometimes one had to train a newbie who would in turn pressurise one’s own wages. How then is one supposed to welcome this stranger whose labour profits only the financiers? Supply and demand dictates wages, but in the topsy-turvy world of finance capitalism this becomes a call to issue H1B visas. Now software programming doesn’t require an Einstein (and there are precious few Einsteins anyway), it can be handled by the locals at the right price. The Americans managed to put man on the moon in what is the greatest technical achievement in history (with some help from old Germans) but somehow cannot find enough programmers to handle routine C++. The moneyed class set their own rewards with what is effectively an old boy’s network – the question is why is labour effectively on a Dutch auction while the wages of say American bankers are set by themselves in the name of outstanding talent? Why don’t they follow the pay scale of Japanese or Germans bankers who run much larger banks? The Catholic Church is out of its depth on this and should stay out. Further isn’t it the duty of Catholics in Mexico to look out for their own poor? Isn’t NAFTA supposed to spread so much prosperity around that Mexicans no longer need to travel outside for work? The American border controls are ridiculous. When a friend of mine was seconded to work in South California for a few months, he faced no end of harassment on his daily commute across to Mexico where he had his lodgings, while all manner of travelers manage to get across through other channels.

    President Reagan amnestied three or four million illegals in 1984. what proportion of them and their children vote Republican? It is a certainty that all the new immigrants will continue with the same shell game over and over again.

  • That all sounds reasonable enough to me, El.

    I just find it unfortunate that you really believe this is about “reproductive parts.” Maybe it is sheer projection, something you just can’t stop thinking about yourself so you assume we do it as well.

    This is about me not wanting to live in a society that can do horrific things to human beings on a mass scale, that can legalize it, sanitize it, sanctify it, obstruct and obscure the truth about it, lie about it, and mouth pleasant, sanctimonious bromides about it. Abortion is an incredibly violent act of aggression against living beings, human beings, that are innocent and defenseless. It has produced over 50 million corpses since its legalization 40 years ago, an entire generation wiped out – workers, taxpayers, citizens, brothers, sisters, etc. We are not better off as a society for it, regardless of what some people say about the crime rate. It has made us a more cruel, callous, and selfish people. It has taught us that human beings are disposable, that parental obligations aren’t inviolable, and that the fundamental questions of life and death can be overridden by nine men in black robes.

    If THAT is the future, I look forward to my own death.

  • I’d try if ELM had a relevant point, so far its only some assertions.

  • Don, I know you think Ron Paul is from Pluto, but he is correct in saying, post-election, that the U.S. is already over the cliff. Paul could have engineered genuine change, but Obama and Romney would govern in a “business-as-usual fashion.” The notion that true conservatives ought to move left to be more like the Democrats is absurd. The reason Romney lost is that he was too much like Obama, as validated by the third debate where there was virtually no difference between the two on foreign policy.

    Paul, who is retiring after 12 terms in the House, said voters rejected Mitt Romney mainly because he had opposed the government bailout of General Motors and Chrysler.

    “The people in the Midwest voted against him: ‘Oh, we have to be taken care of!’ So that vote was sort of like what we are laughing at in Greece,” Mr. Paul said.

    “People do not want anything cut,” he said. “They want all the bailouts to come. They want the Fed to keep printing the money. And they don’t believe that we’ve gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff. They think we can patch it over, that we can somehow come up with some magic solution. But you can’t have a budgetary solution if you don’t change what the role of government should be. As long as you think we have to police the world and run this welfare state, all we are going to argue about is who will get the loot.”

  • I used to think like that but I started to see some basic stuff:
    Rand Paul is republican.
    No republican will ever get into the White House without the Hispanic vote ever again.
    Especially Rand Paul who is willing to modify the constitution to stop citizenship at birth from illegal immigrants.
    He will never get Hispanic vote.
    Again, without that vote no one will ever be able to get into office.
    I repeat, republicans—Hispanic vote = no White House.
    What is the only policy stance that can change on the republican side that can get many votes without going against God?
    That one.
    Blessedly it is one that can be justifiable to God. Softening on abortion or gay marriage or forced contraception all go against God. Embracing stranger doesn’t. I’m not saying that Jesus mandates an open immigration policy, what I’m saying is that somehow we need. To. Get. Votes.

  • “Don, I know you think Ron Paul is from Pluto,”

    And would stand a better chance of being elected President of Pluto than President of the United States. Paul’s analysis is the counsel of despair and ignores the more important factors that contributed to Romney’s defeat, and the lack of political competence, an aspect of which I address in the post linked below, is not the smallest of those factors.

    http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/11/09/beached-killer-whale/

  • Bonchamps @ 7:56 am – well said.

  • Don, always have respect your views, however much I may disagree. At any rate, thanks for allowing me to have a say after being in limbo awhile. As Obama would say, “Forward!”…to the fiscal cliff.

  • “Bonchamps @ 7:56 am – well said.”

    Indeed. Outstanding. Bravo!

  • Mr McClary

    Yes Romney and the Repubs have no operational competence. But you are ignoring the dog that didn’t bark. Repub Senate hopefuls (non incumbents) were mowed down on Nov 6 Despite having many fewer seats to defend they Lost ground. Most of them ran far behind Romney!!! That means millions of people were Voting For Romney and then voting for the Dem in the Senate! You had an absolute Freak Show on the Dem side and now in the Senate. For example ND sent a Dem to the Senate where they can support the EPA to shut down oil drilling! So many voters wanted Romney as President but wanted to saddle him with a loony left Senate that would block anything he wanted to do including repeal Obamacare. Can anyone explain that in a way that doesn’t validate what RP said?

  • North Dakota has a long history of voting for Republicans for President and sending Dems to the Senate. Adkins and Mourdock were victims of hoof and mouth disease. George Allen lost by a whisker in Virginia as did Romney. Tom Smith, although he ran a great campaign, was always a long shot against Casey. Denny Rehberg should have been able to defeat Tester in Montana, although Tester was the incumbent and a former governor. Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin never was able to raise the money to get in the game against his opponent and Josh Mandel, in many ways an attractive candidate, in Ohio ran up against a very successful GOTV campaign by the Democrats in OhIo against Romney with the Democrats, as they usually do, voting a straight ticket.

  • El Mono Liso

    Cardinal Henri de Lubac knew exactly what he was doing

    The Neo-Thomists had developed a theory of Natural Law, based on Suarez’s interpretation, or rather, travesty of St Thomas. They have talked of a “natural order,” governed by Natural Law, consisting of truths accessible to unaided human reason, as something that can be kept separate from the supernatural truths revealed in the Gospel. This “two-tier” account of nature and grace was based on this view that the addition of “grace” was something super-added to a human nature that was already complete and sufficient in itself and apart from any intrinsic human need

    In the memorable exchange in 1910, in Blondel’s publication, L’Annales de philosophie chrétienne, between Maurras’s Jesuit defender, Descoqs and the Oratorian Lucien Laberthonnière, Descoqs, a follower of Suarez’s interpretation of St Thomas had allowed the political sphere a wide degree of political autonomy and he was prepared to detach “political society” from “religious society.” Laberthonnière had retaliated by accusing Descoqs of being influenced by “a false theological notion of some state of pure nature and therefore imagined the state could be self-sufficient in the sense that it could be properly independent of any specifically Christian sense of justice.”

    So far as I know, this exchange has never appeared in English, which is astonishing, as it was what united such disparate thinkers as Blondel, Maréchal, the Dominicans, Chenu and Congar and the Jesuits, Lubac and Daniélou. It was a fundamental moment for the Nouvelle Théologie, much as Keble’s Assize Sermon had been for the Oxford Movement.

    Thus, Maurice Blondel, insisted that we must never forget “that one cannot think or act anywhere as if we do not all have a supernatural destiny. Because, since it concerns the human being such as he is, in concreto, in his living and total reality, not in a simple state of hypothetical nature, nothing is truly complete (boucle), even in the sheerly natural order”

    Jacques Maritain, too, declared that “the knowledge of human actions and of the good conduct of the human State in particular can exist as an integral science, as a complete body of doctrine, only if related to the ultimate end of the human being . . . the rule of conduct governing individual and social life cannot therefore leave the supernatural order out of account”

    What de Lubac denied in his controversy with Neo-Scholasticism was the claim that the natural and the supernatural have utterly separate ends in and of themselves. He spelled this out in two of the most important theological works of the last century, his 1946 work, « Surnaturel » , but then, more decisively, in his 1965 book, « Le Mystère du Surnaturel »

    The Neo-Thomist view of Natural Law is now utterly discredited. The much more modest theory, as propounded by John Finnis at Oxford and Robert George at Princeton shares little with it, except the name and it has, very wisely, no theological pretentions whatsoever.

  • I don’t want to go on and on about this but I will restate my point. Millions of people voted for Romney but then voted for far left Dems in the Senate who would then block whatever Romney tried to do. This is sort of what Ron Paul alluded to. I am Not a Paulbot at ALL. I’m just pointing out that to turn around the country it would have taken more than Romney as President even assuming he was any good. However, people were not remotely on board for whatever reason.(Maybe they were reachable and Repubs blew it.) You can always come up with reasons why this or that candidate lost. I’m just saying that RP’s point that the voters are not going to put enough sensible people in Congress in time seems to have been validated this election.

  • If I get your drift here, Michael Paterson-Seymour, God has just given America Obama as a Whip with which to punish her for the massacre of the unborn, the horrendous immorality and depravity which makes Sodom and Gomorrah Saintly nations and as a wake-up punishment to the American Catholic Church Faithful who have trashed His Faith and Morals’ Edicts and Precepts. Well, if that is what you mean, I totally agree with you.

  • I do not agree. When God punishes, it is dramatic… All Sodom and Gemorrah and Great Flood. God has removed His Grace. Not the same thing.

    When God punishes, only the righteous survive. When He removes His Grace, mankind is given the chance to turn away from sin.

    We are Ninevah, not Sodom. Question is, do we take the lesson from Ninevah or not. God’s love is eternal, His patience is not.

  • Oh, G-Veg. Do you honestly believe God will not punish America for the massacre of the millions of the unborn babies you have annihilated and which annihilation will now be accelerated to horrendous proportions?? And do you surely believe He will just wink at the depravity of homosexuality, lesbianisism, sterilization of teenagers, sniffing out the lives of the aged like this 74 years’old grandmother??? Well, if you do, read the Scriptures again and again. I do pray for your country but by pushing viciously the promotion of these bestialities, your Country shall surely pay, and pay dearly. God’s condemnation of these intrinsic Evils is unambiguous. God is Truth. His Word is Truth. And God does not change. He is the Same yesterday, today and for ever.

What Is To Be Done?

Wednesday, November 7, AD 2012

The narrative game has begun. One of the major memes we can expect to hear now that the GOP lost the presidential race is that “extremism” is to blame. Many of us know that it was absurd to label Mitt Romney “extreme” on anything. Even those on the other side willing to concede this point will say something like “the GOP is being held hostage by the extreme right” and “the Tea Party is to blame for the GOP defeat.” This is all, of course, complete nonsense, but many Republicans will buy it.

I honestly don’t know if it is possible to isolate and eliminate the factors that are ultimately responsible for Barack Obama’s reelection and Mitt Romney’s crushing defeat last night. What I do know is this: in 2004, President Bush was said to have won primarily because of a surge of evangelical voters who stormed the polls to defeat gay marriage initiatives in key swing states. Last night, voters approved gay marriage in three states and defeated two GOP Senate candidates because of remarks they made to the media about rape and abortion. Neither “extremism” in general or the “Tea Party” is to blame; commentators have been quick to point out that Akin was not a Tea Party choice and that perfectly moderate Republicans such as Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin went down in defeat last night.

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25 Responses to What Is To Be Done?

  • I have lived through worse electoral disasters than this: 1964, 1974, 1976 and 1992. The saving grace after each such defeat is that it tends to bring new faces and ideas to the fore and sharpens the party for future victories. That, and the Democrats always overreach, as they will this time. The party actually is in better shape at the state level across the nation than at any time during my life. Quite a bit of potential there.

    A good post Bonchamps and I will be coming up with some other practical suggestions for the way out of the political wilderness tomorrow.

  • Leadership. The country and the conservative cause is in sore need of a strong leader. Back in the Vietnam era while I was a candidate in Officer Candidate School, I’ll never forget the description of what a true leader is; “he can tell you he’s going to take you to hell and back and you look forward to the trip!” Now theologically we as Catholics, have an issue with the details of that, but here is a point to be made by the statement. In my lifetime only one President comes to mind who fills that bill.

    The demographics of the country are rapidly changing. I have never been comfortable with the Republican strident stand on immigration. I’m not advocating amnesty, but we do need to confront reality. There needs to be a documented guest worker program to start with. In a few years, Texas may well be a purple state.

  • . There needs to be a documented guest worker program to start with. :

    Rubbish. Either allow people to settle or send them home. You import indentured servants you are asking for trouble.

  • You know, I will be quite frank about this: I am sick to death of the implications behind criticisms of the GOP’s immigration positions.

    Hispanics who are here legally ought to be in favor of upholding the nation’s immigration laws. If their position is essentially that we ought to not enforce the laws or create new laws that do nothing to address the problems associated with mass immigration, we cannot possibly endorse it. It is criminal and immoral to do so, in fact.

    We are under no obligation to endorse open borders, lax enforcement, and the cultural disintegration of our country. We have other options besides appeasing La Raza and MEChA, you know.

  • This is the kind of stuff, Bonchamps, that you’re really good at analyzing and articulating. I may not agree completely with everything in your post, but you make good sense and your facts seem correct. And since I am a nuclear engineer and not a political scientist, I will defer to your wisdom in such matters.

  • So what is the answer to selling the Conservative position to blacks and latino’s? Enlighten me. How do we get there? Or perhaps you believe it doesn’t matter?

  • I don’t know how we get there. I know what we don’t do to get wherever “there” is, though.

    Ironically, getting tougher on border issues could swing some of the black vote our way. Who do you think takes all of their jobs? Our angle could be, “vote for us – you won’t get as much welfare, but you’ll definitely have greater job opportunities as we send your main competitors packing.”

    It’s one option, anyway. But I certainly will not acquiesce to the notion that we sacrifice our cultural and territorial integrity for the sake of voters in this country who believe that the laws are meaningless and will punish the party that tries to enforce them. If that’s what this country has come to, then no election will change anything.

  • I live in Florida. I quite frankly resent the accomodations to Hispanics with language. You live here, learn the language. Music in Spanish at Mass or diocesan functions drives me nuts. Our parish as a ministry supports the mission that works with the field workers who pick the vegetables and the fruit. Americans will not do the work. They are illegal, but without them the vegetable and fruit industries are not viable. They wouldn’t be able to compete with imports from Mexico and South America. That’s what I mean by a guest worker program. Know who they are and create a record.

    As to the rest of the latino community, we best recognize that their numbers are growing legally. They are becoming an ever growing percentage of the population. They vote. They have issues that need to be respected. They are by and large Catholic and family oriented. They are conservative and should be voting with us, but they are not.

  • And what are those issues, exactly?

    Open borders and handouts. That’s what they want.

  • Family oriented voters are concerned about having enough for living expenses whether or not the funds are earnings. It seems that this concern trumps all others. From Instapundit:

    ‘ “The first day of the ‘next 4 years’ is starting in a very auspicious fashion. First, the market crashes. Then, a major blue chip company, Boeing, just announced it would cut 30% of management jobs from 2010 levels. And finally, the US Treasury just added $24 billion in debt, or enough to fund Greece for over one year, sending the total debt load (the US is now at 103% debt/GDP) ever closer to the debt ceiling breaching $16.4 trillion.”

    Posted at 10:50 pm by Glenn Reynolds

    I QUESTION THE TIMING: A reader who works at Yale emails:

    I found it interesting that this email came out today from Yale benefits:

    Dear Colleagues:

    We would like to make you aware of a significant federally mandated change which will impact Yale’s healthcare flexible spending account benefit. Effective January 1, 2013, as a provision of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the annual contribution limit will be capped at $2,500. Currently, the maximum amount of pre-tax dollars you can set aside in a healthcare flexible spending account is $12,000.

    As a participant who contributed $2,500 or more in 2012, we encourage you to keep this in mind as you begin to plan for your 2013 out-of-pocket medical, dental and vision expenses. You will soon have an opportunity to re-enroll in the flexible spending account benefit plan during Annual Benefits Enrollment (December 3-17). As a reminder, you have until March 15, 2013 to incur expenses against your 2012 contributions, and until April 30, 2013 to submit claims those for reimbursement. We hope that this grace period is helpful for maximizing your flexible spending benefit for 2012.

    If you have any further questions, please contact an Employee Services representative.

    What interesting timing! I did know about this, as a former CPA/tax accountant, but how many did?
    Today my husband came home and told me that his boss informed him today that a layoff is planned. Small aerospace/manufacturing plant.
    We are worried. We were worried before the election that if the direction didn’t change, we’d face an ugly economic future. It may already becoming true for our family.

    I think a lot of stuff will be coming out over the next few weeks and months that was carefully kept off the radar before Election Day. ‘

  • To answer Jerry’s question I think the state Republican parties are a big part of the problem. More than a few seem indolent or dysfunctional (Bob Michel syndrome). They are often exclusionary in orientation. The VA Repubs spend most of their time fighting with the :”non approved” conservative types. Their get out the vote effort in VA this election was pathetic as far as I could tell. I asked them a couple of times since they didn’t want Tea Party types then what voters were they seeking to make up the difference? Never got an answer. I fear the only remedy is to get some disaffected Dem operatives to run the effort. At least they know what they are doing. If the state and local party is doing nothing on outreach a Presidential candidate showing an ad is not very effective. You can’t show up once every four years and expect a warm welcome.

    Obama got his toughest media questions from the Hispanic media over Fast and Furious. Good grief what a missed opportunity for Romney and Ryan. Here the Admin that so loves Hispanics is covering up the murder of many many Mexicans by ATF provided weapons. Except for the first debate I don’t think Romney made much attempt to explain how his policies would be better for voters including Hispanics than the Democrats policies. Most of his ads were just awful. In a 2 party system you always need to remember voters have a choice.

    Bush 43 got plenty of Hispanic support. He spoke some bad Spanish but the Bushes had a Hispanic wife or two in the clan I believe, That kind of acceptance speaks volumes. The Dems co-opt community leaders to vouch for them. They set up media networks to promote the Dem party indirectly. They also try to make association with the Repubs a form of betrayal. That way they neutralize a Hispanic Repub. Did you see any outcry from Hispanics when Bush43’s AG Gonzalez got in trouble?

    Repubs also don’t call enough attention to Dem’s hostility to religion (except Sharia Islam).

  • PM my thoughts and prayers are with you. I’m very sorry for you and many others. This is purely a national self inflicted wound which makes it doubly frustrating. The same post election angst is occurring in Argentina and France who also have voted foolishly.

  • “They are by and large Catholic and family oriented.”

    this means nothing, it’s like saying that well-to-do suburban Democratic family is “conservative.” Conservatives said the same things about blacks during the Bush years, they’re more religious/socially conservative, we can get them to break. it’s not really that simple.

    the GOP will not outbid the Dems on immigration. That doesn’t mean we have to outright antagonize them/that no change is necessary, but we also don’t have to embrace a position that will earn us nothing with Hispanics and lose white working-class votes in the process

  • I think you insult the citizens of this country in your article. Mob rule? Free stuff ? How about the tens of thousands injured in the wars started by presedent bush ? Are those people just wanting free stuff from the gov.? Could it be the mothers fathers sisters brothers of the fallen who just voted the republicans ‘ s out? How about majority rule, as it should be. The country is way , way better off now than 4 years ago. Employment up, home prices up, stock market up, inovative companies, false war in Iraq over, bin laden dead. extremism not to blame for losses ha ? What planet are you on? You might as well say horendous acts against women in Afghanistan are not extreme . And I wouldn’t call a few hundred dollars a month in food stamps, which is literally just barely enogh to eat now and emergency access to a telephone endless entitlment .come on. I thought Christians were supposed to feed the hungry . Lol shrinkage of the base ha ha . Your words betray your fear . Of course its possible to figure out why republicans lost, its all over the news god your in your own little world . Time to grow up , Jesus thought outside his box , maybe you could as well . Sorry excuse for an article bud .

  • With respect, there are many palatable ways to turn the immigration problem on its head, to turn it from a losing to a winning issue for Republicans. However, we can’t respond to every proposal as though what is good for aliens is bad for America. Whether you accept it or not, our future is as tied to theirs as it has ever been.

    For example: the technology non-immigrant visa is, for the most part, the H1B. It is on this visa that most of the IT workers enter the US to underbid US jobs.

    It can get complicated but, at its core, the process entails a company filing a petition for a worker and demonstrating that 1) they have tried to fill the post and couldn’t, 2) they have work for them to do, 3) the company can pay the prevailing wage, and 4) bringing in a worker won’t violate union rules. Sounds reasonable.

    The problem is that the system was established for “brick and mortar” enterprises in the old economy. The underlying assumption is that there is A job at A location, like designing medical equipment at a plant. IT doesn’t work that way and, so, the H1B system has to be twisted to fit this important sector of the economy.

    There is rampant fraud but most is subtle and disastrous for the US economy. A common scheme is for an Indian company to send a few representatives to the US to set up an US corporation. They, in turn, petition for highly skilled computer professionals from their own corporation. They then establish a servicing contract with the foreign corporation to show cash flow. The petitioned-for aliens are then installed at large US corporations to look for work that can be outsourced to the Indian company.

    On paper, everything looks legit… US corporation? Check. Cash flow? Check. Contract requiring a worker? Check. Only it isn’t legit. The worker isn’t a $62,000/year Programmer Analyst, they are a $120,000/year manager, finding work that can be outsourced.

    So, accept for a moment that I am being truthful… That little tale should make your blood boil. It does mine and that it plays out tens of thousands of times a year concerns me greatly.

    We can get mad and insist on wiping out the program altogether but that argument, right or wrong, will never garner more than fringe support. We can impotently rage against the Indians but that is mean and stupid. We can throw up our hands – as Congress does but that just gives legislative consent to the slight of hand.

    The cleverest remedy I’ve heard is also the simplest: eliminate the petition provision so that workers can work wherever they want, for whomever they want and let the market control their wages. I favor this proposal for two reasons: any rule of law that encourages deceit is a bad rule and greed is a sound foundation for market systems.

    Whatever the IT workwr’s loyalty, they know what they can get in the open market. The Indian corporations would have to compensate sufficiently to keep that worker working for them. US corporations, unable to get discounted labor from overseas would have to at least conside hiring US workers and paying them fairly and training in-house. Finally, you wipe out the economic insentive for the dummy corporations that make the fraud work.

    There are lots of changes to immigration systems that yield high economic dividends for the US economy and advance the interests of legitimate immigrants. We won’t reach them though if we on the Right react negatively to immigrants generally and immigration proposals as though they are inherently bad because they benefit immigrants.

  • Ben,

    I approved your pathetic comment just to pick it apart for fun. I wish I didn’t have so much time on my hands.

    “I think you insult the citizens of this country in your article. Mob rule? Free stuff ?”

    Yes, you know, the stuff Obama pays for from his “stash”, i.e. our tax dollars, things like free birth control for Sandra Fluke. Yes, mob rule, the people who threatened to riot and murder if Romney was elected. I know the media outlets you likely frequent don’t bring such things to your attention. Time to leave the MSM bubble perhaps. Google is your friend.

    “How about the tens of thousands injured in the wars started by presedent bush ? Are those people just wanting free stuff from the gov.?”

    Who said anything about that? Let me clue you in: as anyone who frequents TAC will tell you, I am opposed to Bush’s wars and think all troops should be brought home immediately. Sorry to burst your bubble on that one. And veterans are entitled to benefits, because national defense and related matters fall under the Constitutionally legitimate duties of the federal government. I know its hard for you to imagine a consistent political philosophy, but it does exist, I do espouse it, and you should look before you leap and make assumptions about others.

    “Could it be the mothers fathers sisters brothers of the fallen who just voted the republicans ‘ s out?”

    The military usually goes Republican. I know some soldiers. They’re all either GOP supporters or 3rd party. And they all despise Obama.

    “How about majority rule, as it should be.”

    Who said anything against it?

    “The country is way , way better off now than 4 years ago.”

    Excuse me while I finish LMAO.

    “Employment up,”

    Real unemployment is higher than it has been since FDR’s administration – 17% and rising.

    “home prices up,”

    They had nowhere to go but up, and it has nothing to do with Obummer’s policies. They would have gone up under McCain too.

    “stock market up,”

    The stock market tanked as soon as Obama’s reelection was called. So did the dollar, because the rest of the world knows that Obama will print trillions more dollars, creating imaginary money to pay for political fantasies.

    “inovative companies,”

    ::laughs hysterically::

    “false war in Iraq over,”

    Bush began the withdrawal process, and Obama is murdering innocent children with drones in Pakistan. Your president is as much a warmonger as W.

    “bin laden dead.”

    Well, I’m a crazy conspiracy theorist. I think he died in 2002 or sometime shortly thereafter, having already been on kidney dialysis well before that, and that whomever they bagged wasn’t bin Laden. We’ll never know, since Seal Team 6 was, on an entirely unrelated note, placed on a defective, outdated helicopter that blew up and killed them all.

    “extremism not to blame for losses ha ? What planet are you on?”

    No, poor discipline is to blame. Discipline is required to defeat the kind of people who mislead simple people, like yourself.

    “You might as well say horendous acts against women in Afghanistan are not extreme .”

    Huh?

    “And I wouldn’t call a few hundred dollars a month in food stamps, which is literally just barely enogh to eat now and emergency access to a telephone endless entitlment .”

    Its endless when it doesn’t end, when it becomes a way of life sustained by the labor of others.

    “come on. I thought Christians were supposed to feed the hungry .”

    Yeah. We’re supposed to do it as a free act of love, not because men with guns and badges will throw us in prison if we don’t.

    “Lol shrinkage of the base ha ha . Your words betray your fear . Of course its possible to figure out why republicans lost, its all over the news god your in your own little world . Time to grow up , Jesus thought outside his box , maybe you could as well . Sorry excuse for an article bud .”

    Well, given the level of basic grammar and command of the relevant political facts, I don’t think I’m going to take your criticism too poorly.

  • “home prices up,”

    “They had nowhere to go but up, and it has nothing to do with Obummer’s policies. They would have gone up under McCain too.”

    How true. Most homes around the nation during the reign of the Southside Messiah have lost 20 to 30 percent of value. I would wager that Ben does not own a home.

  • Sure he does… If by “own” you mean “borrow” and by “home” you mean “mother’s basement.”

  • Seriously though, “you can’t fix stupid” and the West is becoming increasingly stupid.

    Ignorance can be addressed in individuals. It tend to think of the word in a positive way, as in “I don’t know anything about that. Could you tell me something more so that I am not as ignorant?”

    Stupid strikes me as willful: as iin “I voted for Obama because Romney didn’t have an economic plan.” You see, in this statement, I betray that 1) having an economic plan is not really a requirement or I’d know that Obama didn’t present one and 2) I know that having an economic plan would be a positive thing for a candidatet but I choose to not investigate the matter.

    People are ignorant until they are informed but you can’t inform the stupid.

    The GOP can’t reach the stupid and we shouldn’t try, lest we be dragged down to their inarticulate, carping fom the sidelines of life existence. Don’s post above, forgive me for paraphrasing, calls for the GOP to inform, to correct ignorance. We simply can’t fix the Ben’s of the world; only He who let the blind man see can.

  • The analysis needs to go further. The very conversation itself here is using Liberal Democrat terms and concepts. Class designations are the tools of the left and the GOP cannot win any debate using concepts and descriptions created by the enemy.

    Republicans need to create a brand new paradigm from the ground up, standing on the principle of servant leadership, using the essences of Scriptural wisdom. No more collectivist terminology regarding race, sex, or any other demographic facet. That language must be continually attacked as dehumanizing and insulting to the sanctity of the individual person, from conception to natural death.

    The whole “War on Women” theme could have been wiped off the map, simply by saying “Our mothers, sisters and daughters are, like our fathers, brothers and sons, full and necessary participants in a society whose goals are civil prosperity, secure families and communities, and respect for every individual person regardless of station or circumstance. If all you believe women to be are mobile genitals, then you have that right, but we take a higher view.” Not just once, but time after time after time, from male and female spokespeople, and every variation on the theme should have been based on that principle.

    As well, compartmentalization of issue is a Leftist weapon. It must be recognized that all issues today, from business overregulation to gay marriage, are inter-connected and that by appealing to the commonality that all share – while pointing out the politically-motivated faux issues created by the left to maintain class warfare and societal division – the whole tone of the battle can be changed.

    The media will be the easiest target since they’re the least intellectually nimble of the bunch. All that’s needed are disciplined, principled and consistent answers to any given challenge on any given aspect of the paradigm, and the respondent silence will speak as loudly as any other potential reaction. Akin and Mourdock failed because they were politicians and not principled public servants. The GOP can turn those losses into huge gains by learning and applying the lessons. They must take the example of Edmund Burke, as posted today by Don, of service before office and the nobility of sacrifice of privilege for the sake of principle. This will be the greatest weapon, if in fact the Republicans can find enough principled people to wield it.

  • And THAT, WK Aiken is the best articulation of the issue I’ve seen in years. Thank you!

  • Bonchamps, you overgeneralize the “Hispanic” vote as badly as the Democrats. Hispanics are the single largest demographic in Texas, yet Texas voted red as blood. Ted Cruz is a Tea Party candidate and considered “extreme” right.

    Aiken is right – dump the demographic paradigm. Clinton was right – it is the economy. The GOP did not do enough on calling out the MSM on their lies about the state of the economy. I would have taken EVERY announcement of job cuts over the last four years and put that front and center.

  • Rozin @ 11:56: That comment was only an observation for the demographic discussion, meaning that it seems that living expenses are a basic concern for voters across the differing constituencies, not a personal statement about my preferences. The D campaign used the strength of that interest in a different way from the R campaign. Each side ‘scared’ the other as to income security, so I thought it might be something to look at by campaign planners. That for the good thought though.

  • You know, I will be quite frank about this: I am sick to death of the implications behind criticisms of the GOP’s immigration positions.

    Agreed.

    Bonchamps, you overgeneralize the “Hispanic” vote as badly as the Democrats. Hispanics are the single largest demographic in Texas, yet Texas voted red as blood. Ted Cruz is a Tea Party candidate and considered “extreme” right.

    The “Hispanic” vote means that section that votes on open borders and support for the same. It doesn’t include the folks who vote conservative because that’s the world-view they have, same way that I’m not part of the “women’s vote”– abortion, birth control and single parenthood support– because I am a conservative.
    That is what the terms mean when the Dems use them, and if we talk about taking that group, we’re about the same sub-section.

    The GOP deals with what people think instead of what they were born. Buying into the Dem’s “born that way” mindset is dangerous, and seems to be getting more popular. (followed by those buying in being unable to figure out why they’re not as good at it as the guys they’re copying)

  • There was nothing wrong with Romney. We lost because of turnout – period. The democrats have a great ground game going now. The republicans are still relying on the appeal of common sense. It does not work this way. A community organizer can beat a republican time and time again.

    How do we rebound? We need to get organized and galvanized around a single carefully selected leader. We need to stop thinking of our individual causes and start thinking about whether this country will exist for our children and grandchildren.

50%-48%

Wednesday, November 7, AD 2012

Well, a nation divided down the middle has chosen to re-elect the worst president in our nation’s history while keeping the Republicans firmly in control of the House.  This ensures that no major piece of legislation will get through Congress in the next two years.  So the people collectively have voted for Obama and gridlock.  What lessons should be taken away from this debacle?

1.  The Triumph of Identity Politics -The mainstay of Obama’s victory were groups that he assiduously courted:  Blacks, Hispanics, single women and homosexuals.  That Obama has been a disaster for the nation in his economic and fiscal policies, and presided over a truly lousy economy, mattered not one whit to substantial majorities of these groups.

2.  Divide and Rule-Obama pursued a strategy of winning by getting his supporters to the polls and demonizing his adversaries.  The strategy worked and will no doubt be copied in the years to come, as politicians seek success through division.

3.  Vote for Revenge-Obama and many of his followers will no doubt assume that he has received a mandate to pursue his policies.  That is a mistaken view.  Through the manner of his winning, Obama has ensured that half the nation will be actively working against him and all his works until he leaves office.

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  • OK, so Obama won. Now the Catholic Church has to really energize itself to stand up, light its lamp, gird its loins, and preach and act on Catholic teaching and Catholic values. We have good leaders we can count on: Dolan, George, Fr. Barron among them. Obama does not stand for much besides a godless quasi-European style socialism. This is not true to American values and standards. The USA is greater than Obama and the government teat-sucking secularists who want us to use our tax dollars to pay for their sexual escapades. We are better than this! Obama pandered to the lowest, crassest inclinations people have to be lewd, selfish and self-indulgent. We have to man up and oppose these tendencies in our culture so we can make a decent world for our children. The abuse scandal is behind us. It is the Year of Faith and the New Evangelization. Onward Christian Soldiers!

  • Don – any word on how the Catholics voted? There was a graphic on last night that showed a breakdown that included how weekly Church-goers voted, but I don’t recall the numbers? Have you seen anything yet?

  • This is the fruit of liberal control of our school system and liberal infection within the Body of Christ for 50 years. This will result in persecution of the Church first by economic measures, and then by more severe measures. It will affect all of authenticate Christianity in the US, not just the Roman jurisdiction. If at work you don’t sign statements in company retraining saying you support gay equality and women’s freedom – euphemisms for perversion and murder – then you’ll lose your job. Just last year my company came out with on-line training about gay equality. It will now be govt mandated. And yes, Don, with all due respect, I fully expect blogs like this one to be labelled as hate speech and outlawed. You say no. But you had me even thinking I was wrong that Obama was going to win. I always hope you’re right in predicting these kinds of things. But I saw what my company did last year and is doing now. And one last thing: with Obama’s opposition to both coal and nuclear, we can expect less and less reliable electric supply with higher and higher prices.

  • ” Have you seen anything yet?”

    Not yet Larry.

  • “I fully expect blogs like this one to be labelled as hate speech and outlawed.”

    Don’t get ridiculous Paul. Such a law couldn’t get through the Democrat controlled Senate, let alone the Republican controlled House, and would be flagrantly unconstitutional in any case. I am depressed over the election results also, but there is no need to darken the stink weed with fears that have no chance of coming true. What we and the nation will confront during the next four years will be bad enough without summoning up imaginary fears.

  • I think that Romney was completely blindsided by the power of identity politics. He was running for CEO and presented a good case.

    I also think that the Republicans had a few “own goals” from the likes of Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock. The Republicans overplayed their hand after 2010, especially at the state level, much like the Democrats did after 2008.

    And yes, the media was actively campaigning for Obama.

    I believe Obama lost white Catholics by a significant margin (and won Latino Catholics by an even larger one). But the real story is the collapse of the evangelical right. I know a lot of young people who were raised in evangelical homes who no longer go to any church and voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

  • I hope that I am being ridiculous and you are right, Donald. I really do.

  • Is it possible that the shenanigans in the GOP, in taking too long to choose its nominee, because so many stayed in the race, left little time for the GOP to concentrate on giving the American people an idea of who Romney is, until the first debate? (I say this as someone who followed Paul’s campaign rather than Romney’s).

  • A portion of today’s reading I found especially comforting:

    Do everything without grumbling or questioning,
    that you may be blameless and innocent,
    children of God without blemish
    in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation,
    among whom you shine like lights in the world,
    as you hold on to the word of life,

  • Welcome to Europe! Oh, but without the architecture, art, music, deep historical roots, or religion…

  • I don’t think certain blogs will be outlawed. Democracy is really good at fooling people into thinking they aren’t under secularist dhimmitude. I recall a scene in the final episode of The Prisoner when Number 6 was allowed to approach the podium and speak his mind. Complete freedom of speech, but every time he opened his mouth, the crowd spoke at the same time and drowned him out.

  • Related to the Catholic vote, Deacon Greg @Patheos assembled news stories showing that Catholics supported that guy in greater numbers than the general population, about 52% – 45%.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2012/11/obama-wins-with-the-catholic-vote/

    We have a lot of work to do. Economic concerns were a big factor, and it would seem that many Catholics expect to need federal government assistance in getting a job or getting aid if there is no job. I have not seen stats on social issues and Catholic voting, yet.

  • Another thing we should learn is that you can’t run a candidate that represents the power within the Republican party. That is, those whose only concern is tax rates, deregulation, and bloated defense budgets. The social religious voters, the right to bear arms people, etc, are just along for the ride because there is nowhere else to go. These are the people who bring the numbers to the polls for the Republican party but they are getting sick of doing all the grunt work when the leaders have no real concern over their issues. Santorum could have been just what was needed but he also ran as a war-mongering tax slayer.

  • I’m less shocked or dismayed about the Presidential election (seeing it as a symptom) as watching the three social issue Amendments here in Florida getting defeated by a wide margin. I think some of the Fox analysts were dead on in that this is no longer a center-right country. People are, by and large, more socially liberal and fiscally thoughtless/irresponsible than ever before and the results show that.

  • H.L. Mencken summed it up best: “Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.”

  • Susan: As long as we have you and strong, committed Catholics like you, there’s always a chance. I’ll pray for, and with, you.

    “This is the fruit of liberal control of our school system and liberal infection within the Body of Christ for 50 years.” Amen.

    It is no accident that education, media and government, the three places where morality is sustained in a modern society, are now strongholds of the Godless left. They attacked slowly and stealthily, using deceit, obfuscation and generationalist strategy in true Maoist – Leninist form. Worse yet, those of us who do see it are derided as fools.

    1. 1 Cor. 1:20-25 – ‘Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For indeed Jews ask for signs, the Greeks search for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness, but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”

    Don: “Such a law couldn’t get through the Democrat controlled Senate, let alone the Republican controlled House, and would be flagrantly unconstitutional in any case.”

    Parroting Scott W, legislaive action is the last tactic they’d use, for that very reason. IRS audits and police surveillance are but two non-legislative tools in the fascist box. They don’t have to outlaw anything. Simple allegations and ‘investigations’ that make freedoms too expensive are all that are necessary. Watch your back.

    Solly makes a valid point; the Left does a much better job of Poster Child demagoguery, so the GOP’s belief in honest competition can be a liability, unless a once-in-a-generation Great Communicator or Great Emancipator comes along.

    “I think that Romney was completely blindsided by the power of identity politics.”

    Excellent variation on Solly’s theme. This, unfortunately, is the new normal in a society of video-eaters and slogan-bearers, and the GOP machine will flounder trying to find a conservative fit. Substance and consequence are no longer majority considerations; if something breaks, even if the government causes it, the government will fix it just like Mummy and Dadda always have. May the best Nanny win.

    @Will Leamon: When your ears and heart are open to the voice of The Lord, there are no coincidences. That reading was meant for today.

    Spambot: “We have a lot of work to do.” No kidding. But the Lord gives graces to His people even in adversity. The opportunities for service will be over-plentiful soon and very soon. He does not call us as a nation; He calls us as His individual, created children. Our nation was founded and dependent upon that; as the majority turn from it, it is our duty to remain steadfast so that when the Chastisement comes we will not be found wanting. Observe the Sacraments. Stay reconciled. Pray the Rosary daily (those who don’t, who must number few here.)

    Matthew 25:40 – “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

    Sheep and goats, grain and chaff, all are being sorted now. We know who wins, so let us continue the preparations with renewed vigor, purpose and faith in the Almighty, Eternal One.

    And, two years hence, when The People’s House and a third of the Senate are up for reelection, perhaps The Lord will grace us with an impeachment- and conviction-capable majority. I believe it will come to that, so stay strong in the tribulations that will be necessary for its emergence.

  • I’m sorry but the inevitable “why didn’t we nominate a conservative?” perspective that will likely be all over radio tomorrow is totally wrong. Mitt may very well have ended up a pretty centrist, technocratic president, but the problem is that he was perceived by a good portion of the electorate to be some kind of extremist (or, at least, “captive” to alleged extremists)

    does this mean we gotta go all Jon Hunstman next election (which fortunately sounds almost impossible now given how he’d be mocked as Mitt v2?) no. I think the whole “if the GOP ditched the social issues they’d’ve won” perspective is off too, although that certainly played a role to an extent. i’m thinking the projection of a more populist (which does not have to = leftwing) message next time will be very important.

    Rick Santorum had elements of this but obviously, it wouldn’t be Santorum. who, we’ll eventually find out i guess.

  • The Obama Victory means is that Americans are becoming more like Europeans. Decay of Faith and Morals. Unfortunately. You need a New Evangelization. My country, Brazil also needs very …

    http://algosolido.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/barack-obama-and-the-white-house-in-cube-form-1/

    http://algosolido.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/barack-obama-and-the-white-house-in-cube-form-2/

  • “Its is the fruit of liberal control of our school system”

    Thank you, Paul P.

    But this must also be understood for what it is, which goes far deeper than merely liberal control of the system. Anytime you have state control of education your will inevitably churn out little minds that have been formed and molded in the image and likeness of the state. I have seen no figure or organization call for what needs to be done to restore this nation: the end of government run education on every level.

    No society can remain free which accepts the state as a source of intellectual formation. Its high time for separation of Education and State.

  • I was going to write a separate post on this but instead I will leave this as a comment.

    Here are the silver linings:

    Republican control of the House. If Americans had clearly rejected Republican policies, as some suggested, then the GOP would not have maintained control of the House. Additionally, it seems that the Congressional defeat means that Nancy Pelosi will be out as minority leader, so an election result that means Nancy Pelosi is punted to the sidelines isn’t all bad.

    GOP bench vs. Democratic bench. Republicans should have a field of excellent candidates in 2016. Among the leading candidates for the Democrats, on the other hand, will be Martin O’Malley. Yeah.

    Supreme Court. This isn’t so much a silver lining as a caution against pessimism. I think we can take it to the bank that Ruth Bader Ginsburg will now retire soon and will be replaced by another younger leftist. I’m uncertain about Breyer. However, barring health issues, there is no way Scalia or Thomas will retire over the next four years, and I am somewhat confident that Anthony Kennedy will stick around. Furthermore, it seems as though the Obama presidency has turned AK back into some kind of judicial conservative. I also think that the election results might convince Chief Justice Roberts that his attempts to split the difference judicially are unwise. Of course, that could be naive optimism on my part.

  • Of course there are plenty of reasons for pessimism, and anyone looking at my twitter feed last night knows that I am not exactly feeling great about last night’s results. But sometimes you have to look at the bright side in order to keep from going insane.

  • “But sometimes you have to look at the bright side in order to keep from going insane.”

    There are no final defeats or final victories in American politics. Our adversaries had a good night last night and a bad night in 2010. On to 2014!

  • All recent Presidents have found their second term frought with difficulties or embarrassments (the 1937-38 recession, the Korean War, the 1957-58 recession, the Watergate scandal, the Iran-Contra scandal, Monica Lewinsky, Hurricane Katrina and the breakdown in law & order in Iraq). If Obama is fortunate, his problems will extend no farther than blabbermouth sluts, rogues in the NSC staff, and ordinary business recessions. Somehow I suspect the bond market will see to it his problems are somewhat more consequential and intractable. Congratulations, Mr. President.

  • Republicans should have a field of excellent candidates in 2016.

    I’m sorry, Paul, but who are these excellent candidates? Rubio? Jindal?? Scan their records; has any one of them ever pronounced anything remotely socially conservative? If so, you can forget them as viable candidates… Chris M is right; the Presidential results are a symptom. This country is turning left on social issues quickly, and the media machine will not tolerate anyone who doesn’t come along for the ride. Sure, the R party might be able to get someone into the WH next time around, but it’s going to be someone who is hardly recognizable as a conservative. Apparently, even a horrible economy is not enough for those “moderate” voters to overlook their pet issues of the identity/sexual politices variety.

  • Let’s not go overboard on the gloom and doom J. Christian as tempting as it is this morning. Obama won a narrow popular vote victory and that is hardly a reason to jump to the conclusion that a social conservative never can win. Social conservatives win routinely all the time in this country, but it requires the ability to defend one’s positions forthrightly and articulately.

  • The demonization of any Repub candidate will occur years before the election when they have limited funds to fight back (cf Romney).

  • Social liberals win routinely all the time in this country, and it does Not require the ability to defend one’s positions forthrightly and articulately. A pretty big advantage.

  • I have to agree with donald on the social issues front- I took this election as framed by the Republican Romney side as Economics 101- The Repubs wanted to win based on a prudential judgment re: economic theory and practice and view of federal gov’t oversight and regulatory powers. I think pretty much all eggs were placed in this basket. The narrow loss indicated that as many or a bit more believed that Obama’s economic views are not socialist but rather more along the lines of FDR. I believe that since many conservative traditional values individuals also agree with the Romney et al economic vision- they collapsed the social issues and economic issues into one Big Issue with little or no separation. The fact that Romney spent little or no effort to take the offense on the Big Three (abortion, gay marriage, religious liberty) which were the only real non-negotiables in the the mix- this was the chink in his armour. He tried not to offend on these issues to play to swing indies- but obama did go on the offense with his planned parenthood shout-outs and ads. We really haven’t had a big time Republican national candidate for president go out and try to educate and convert the general public on the social issue fronts- they go behind closed doors to offer some promises but really play it down in public- and that doesn’t work when you are relying on a majority to agree with you on a prudential judgment call of economics and role of the Fed.

    I think that the Pro_life leaders need to be convincing and say to the Republican establishment – give us a chance – put us front and center- let’s get the facts out and debate with relish not embarrassment on these cultural/moral issue fronts. If Republican is just another name for a particular judgment on economic theory- then I don’t see where the passion beyond that ideological base is going to come from- there are many Mark Shea-types out and about in the Catholic universe who want to cheerlead on these issue fronts but need solid trustworthy political leaders who do more than shout “Jobs, Jobs, Jobs” and then expect social issue Catholics to get excited. I would like to point to young bloods in the Party like my old college buddy- Jeff Fortenberry- as the point man for a better vision that hits more non-negotiable territory with passion and intelligence- and is maybe less ideological on the prudential economic front.

  • Then why Rozin does the House have a solid pro-life majority along with most state legislatures?

  • There are no final defeats or final victories in American politics. Our adversaries had a good night last night and a bad night in 2010. On to 2014!

    Agreed.

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  • GOP bench vs. Democratic bench

    Well, the GOP may have a deep bench, but only one can candidate can run.

    With that, whomever we choose, doesn’t stand much of a chance against Hilary Clinton with both the Chicago and Clinton Machine’s united.

  • Don, the answer is gerrymandering. I did not say there is no support for conservatism. But it has trouble now even in most statewide elections, let alone national elections. Akin could speak inarticulately in his district but not in a state that went big for Romney. The Repubs were saved by Obama’s ineptitude in having a blowout in a census year. The Dems will wait it out until 2020 and try to undo it then. Look at what happened in Illinois yesterday where they controlled the gerrymandering. The lesson is that philosophy has to be out front and the results of that policy centered. Far too many empty talking points go unchallenged or even tacitly accepted.

  • How does Barone earn the title of “the most knowledgeable man in American politics” after predicting a Romney landslide? I think Brit Hume was much more salient and accurate when he said Americans reside in the center-left rather than center-right as many so-called pundits claimed.

  • “With that, whomever we choose, doesn’t stand much of a chance against Hilary Clinton with both the Chicago and Clinton Machine’s united.”

    let’s take a breather, we have no idea what things are gonna be like then.

  • Well Donald I agree with you on #6. The rest seems to be result of your lopsided view of American politics. All Christians should be pleased that health care for 30 million Americans, many of the children will not be threatened. Immigration reform will be possible, progress towards alternative energy will not be thwarted and much more.

  • #6 – That is really distressing. The realization what little influence our Church and its shepherds have on society. Lots and lots of stray sheep.

    There is a direct correlation between the lack of defense of religion and the moral morass that’s building. We lost a good number of battles in the culture war this election. Homosexual unions were approved by voters in 2 states for the first time. Pro-life measures, like prohibiting the funding of abortion in FL, lost. Liberalization of controlled substances via legalization is on the fast track. Many cultural warriors lost their races.

  • “All recent Presidents have found their second term frought with difficulties or embarrassments”

    Art, I think that’s been true of all Presidents. Washington had a rebellion on his hands. Jefferson’s former VP was tried for treason. To my knowledge, every second term has been less focused and more scandal-ridden. Part of it is that you bring in your best people at first, but by the second term, a lot of them have retired and you’re stuck with the second-tier or party hacks.

  • “many of the children will not be threatened?”

    Oh, except for the millions who will be butchered in the womb, and even out of it, when they are left on tables to die.

    And the children who are alive will be in serfdom to the federal government for their entire lives to pay for the selfishness and short-sightedness of their elders.

    Under Obamacare, I wouldn’t be surprised if women carrying children with Downs or some other serious birth defect come under increasing social pressure to abort their babies. Carrying such a child to term will not be seen as selfless, but as the opposite. How dare these women burden the national healthcare system with defective offspring. Why, a real patriot would abort!

    I can’t see the bright side of any of this, at least right now. I was initially not enthused about Romney but I came to see him as a good man and capable manager. Ryan is one of the brightest, most able men in the country. We are no longer a country of serious adults, but a nation of Honey Boo Boos.

    I never again want to hear any Obama voters complain about how pols lie to them. Mourdock made the mistake of telling the truth and that doomed him. Lizzie Warren’s lies made her a national joke – and yet she’s the one who got into the Senate.

  • “All recent Presidents have found their second term frought with difficulties or embarrassments”

    And Obama will continue to blame the “obstructionist” GOP House for standing in his way and the MSM will continue to peddle that line.

  • With several times the money, Romney couldn’t get out as many voters as McCain.

    That is a pretty significant lesson, too.

  • Donald, I think it’s telling that on a Catholic blog, the first thing you talked about in the aftermath of this was the economy, religious freedom not until #6, and abortion and gay marriage not at all.

    You were not wrong to do so in the context of a post-mortem of this election–but that is the whole problem. The issues that matter most to the Lord and to us were not even a factor…or more to the point, to the extent that they were a factor, it was because Obama’s people brought them up, because that campaign was the one that stood to gain from them.

    We lost this country long ago on the things that are really important, and have long been reduced to running stealth campaigns that hide behind issues like the economy and hope to sneak in changes that we couldn’t get approved openly.

    That was the source of my deep skepticism of the Republican spin of the polls. Such a defense, rooted in misdirection and even deception, could not stand forever–and with Obama’s re-election locking in the HHS mandate, the preservation of Roe, and likely gay marriage across the land (once the Defense of Marriage Act is struck down without defense from this administration, and the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution is applied) it has now been taken away from us.

    There is no longer any hope of opposing these evils in the political realm. A sinful and unrepentant nation has been delivered into the hands of the leaders it deserves, and for the faithful remnant…

    Gird your loins. To steal a line from John Zmirak just before Obama was elected the first time: “This is not where persecutions end. This is where persecutions begin.

  • “I can’t see the bright side of any of this, at least right now.”

    Catholics don’t have to believe that everything has a bright side. We have to believe that everything has a purpose.

  • “There is no longer any hope of opposing these evils in the political realm. A sinful and unrepentant nation has been delivered into the hands of the leaders it deserves, and for the faithful remnant…”

    Oh really? The almost half of the nation that opposes this gets the leaders it deserves? I think that is bad theology and worse politics.

  • “All Christians should be pleased that health care for 30 million Americans, many of the children will not be threatened. Immigration reform will be possible, progress towards alternative energy will not be thwarted and much more.”

    Go peddle your Junk elsewhere Jay, I am in no mood for brain dead liberalism today.

  • “With several times the money, Romney couldn’t get out as many voters as McCain.

    That is a pretty significant lesson, too.”

    Our vote totals were down by two million and Obama’s vote total was down by ten million. Some of that doubtless was as a result of Sandy but more I suspect of people simply tuning out from political involvement. I suspect we will see more of that in the future, especially if the next four years are as rough as I expect them to be.

  • Pinky, reminds me of the scene in “Fiddler on the Roof” where Tevye receives bad news about a “small demonstration.”

    “Dear God.
    Did you have to send me news like that today of all days?
    I know, I know we are the chosen people.
    But once in a while, can’t you choose someone else?”

    So, Dear God, I know there is a purpose to everything, but couldn’t you choose another election to shows its purpose?

    To all except Jay, Hats off to the many varied points in this thread.

  • Some months ago when I suggested there were only minor differences between Obama and Romney, I was practically run out of TAC. Most of the contributors here have tried to show the contrast between the two but I humbly ask you to consider the following:

    Judge Andrew Napolitano nailed it when he said, “Barack Obama loves Big Labor; Mitt Romney loves Big Business; but they both love Big Government.”

    Steve Baldwin, a former California State legislator and former Executive Director of the Council for National Policy, said:

    “As someone who was asked by one of the presidential candidates to investigate Romney’s gubernatorial record, I can assure you there is little in Romney’s background to suggest he will be a Reagan-type president willing to undertake bold action to save our economy and restore our culture. I know every bill he signed and every statement he made as Governor. I know who his appointees were and the liberal vision that governed his actions. As Massachusetts Governor, he sided with the big government types in every crisis he faced. Indeed, he repeatedly sold out constitutional rights–freedom of religion, the 2nd amendment, etc., every time he had the opportunity to do so.

    “He raised taxes on the private sector, destroyed job creation when he implemented RomneyCare, and came out in support of amnesty for illegal aliens. Most of his judicial appointees were to the left of Obama’s two appointments to the Supreme Court. As governor, he led the country in advancing three of the left’s most sacred issues: Cap and Trade, socialized medicine and gay marriage. Romney even supported Obama’s bailouts and the useless $8 billion stimulus. And he’s hostile to the notion of engaging in serious budget cuts, telling one reporter, ‘I’m not going to cut $1 trillion in the first year.’

    “Let’s not also forget that Romney’s advisors actually met with Obama’s advisors on a dozen occasions to assist them with designing ObamaCare! It’s no surprise that Romney is refusing to call ObamaCare a tax, even though it’s the largest middle class tax hike in American history. The reason for this is because, while governor, his RomneyCare plan–the model for ObamaCare–was attacked as a tax and he argued it wasn’t.

    “In other words, ObamaCare has been taken off the table as a campaign issue because Romney is afraid of being portrayed as a hypocrite for his past statements on this issue. This is reason number 167 why Romney should never have become our nominee.

    “I don’t care how his campaign portrays him today, his record as Governor is far more indicative of how he will govern than his campaign sound bites. If you’re not familiar with what I am disclosing about Romney, it’s because the truth about Romney was kept from Republican voters. Yes, the conservative movement sold out to Romney. Starting in 2004, Romney created a slew of PACS and foundations that funneled thousands of dollars to hundreds of conservative groups, think tanks, grass roots leaders and GOP entities.

    “In return, many of these entities that normally would have attacked Romney during the presidential primary went silent or even promoted him. I’ve tracked all of Romney contributions to conservative and GOP groups and it’s disgusting. It means that the leadership of our own conservative movement is up for the highest bidder and cannot be trusted to do the right thing. Even National Review, the nation’s leading conservative publication, took money from Romney and for the last six years blocked all articles critical of Romney. Instead, they published a slew of articles portraying him to be a conservative superstar. It was all phony and I can prove it.”

    As Chuck Baldwin (no relation to Steve), a columnist put it, “Even though Romney will promote at least 85% of the Obama agenda, conservatives have no fear or trepidation of Romney because he is a Republican, whereas Obama scares the pants off of them because he is a Democrat. Ah, don’t you just love partisan politics?”

  • I feel so sad for USA. We Indian Christians had been praying that America will vote for a Government that respects religion, protects human life from conception, honors marriage and supports family. As GK Chesterton said humanity has become a people without chest. Our mind and heart has ceased to guide us, sad to say, we are guided by our loins.
    America beware! You will soon be overtaken by societies – Indians, Chinese and Muslim nations – which respects God (China already has the biggest population of born-again Christians) and are founded on cohesive families. Remember America was great because America was good. America will cease to be great when America ceases to be good.
    But let us pray. Let America return to God and godly values. May God bless America.

  • “Oh really? The almost half of the nation that opposes this gets the leaders it deserves? I think that is bad theology and worse politics.”

    Abortion, gay marriage, and (to a lesser extent) religious freedom were buried deep in Romney’s campaign where it was hoped that they wouldn’t be spotted except by those looking for them, and you’re assuming that everyone who voted for Romney–less than half the nation to begin with–agreed on those issues?

    Even after this debacle, you’re still indulging in wishful thinking.

    So yes, Donald, I do think that. All power is granted from above–that’s explicit Scripture. Sin is its own reward, in this life just as surely as after death, and America has been sowing this harvest for a very long time.

  • One recalls the scathing words of the abbé Laberthonnière, written a hundred years ago to those French Catholics, who hoped that L’Action française would lead to “the triumph of the Church in society.”

    “The triumph of the Church in society? That would be excellent. However, it would be necessary to examine by what means our religion permits us to pursue it. Moreover, it has not been promised us. And then, it is not, perhaps, the most pressing of our tasks…

    Her power does not consist in giving orders, to which external obedience is required, backed up by threats or favours. Her power is to raise souls to the life above. It is to give birth to and to cultivate in consciences the supernaturalising obligation to live for God and for others, through Christ, and to pass through temporal defeats to a triumph that is timeless.

    Do not indulge in childish dreams, when you have in your grasp eternal realities that invite you. Understand, all you who would triumph and reign on earth – Et nunc, reges, intellegite.”

  • Jay Junk stated in part, “…progress towards alternative energy will not be thwarted…”

    This is correct, but is no source for rejoicing. Alternative energy such as wind and solar are exceedingly ephemeral, having capacity factors of 20 to 30% at most. This is obvious in observing that on windless days, there is no wind energy, and on days too windy, wind turbines are locked down.

    Likewise with solar energy: at night there is no solar energy, on cloudy days it is much reduced, peaking only happens when the sun is positioned at maximum, and fall and winter months give shorter than 12 hour days.

    Geothermal energy is constrained by availability, and releases far more radioactivity to the environment from naturally occurring radionuclides such as Radium, Radon, Thorium and Uranium that occur naturally at subterranean levels.

    Tidal energy is constrained by location availability of good tidal areas, and by the non-constant level of tides.

    Renewable energy has a devastating environmental impact. Wind turbines are known to kill a great deal of raptor and bat populations, and are notorious for leaking lubricating oil. Solar cells have longevities of typically five years before replacement must be made, and their manufacture requires rare earth metals. Additionally, the manufacturing process uses very hazardous chemicals and invariably results in a great deal of land pollution. Solar thermal units use heat transport chemicals other than water because of an inability to maintain the high temperatures necessary for steam turbine operation. Often these chemicals are explosive and constitute excessive environmental hazards. And when the sun sets, the heat source is lost.

    All forms of renewable energy except geothermal require a large footprint because of low energy density. For example, a 1000 MW wind turbine farm can take up scores of square miles of land area, and still produce only an average of 300 MW, and that is only when the wind is blowing at optimum velocity. A similar thing is true with solar photovoltaics or solar thermal plants that use mirrors for concentrating sunlight.

    In a word, renewable or alternative energy is a joke, and the bankrupcy of Obama-financed Solyndra demonstrates an example of that. Yes, alternative energy if planned carefully could supply 20% of the electric grid, but no more than that due to instabilities caused by unavoidable and unrepeventable variations in energy source, whether wind, solar or tidal is irrelevant. 80% of the grid has to come from stable sources of electrical generation such as coal, natural gas, oil or nuclear.

    Of these choices, only nuclear can safely generate the energy we need for as long as we need it, Fukushima, Chernobyl, TMI and Windscale notwithstanding. The new reactor designs use passive cooling systems that obviate the conditions at those plants which resulted in accidents.

    The Fukushima BWRs never upgraded their designs the way US BWRs did, and the plants were built right on the seacost so when a tsunami happened, the diesel intakes got flooded and electricity for core cooling was lost. Neverthless, only six people died – plant worker volunteers; no member of the p[ublic died, contrasted with a renewable energy hydro-electric dam the cracked because of the Sendai earthquake and killed thousands by flooding.

    Chernobyl was a graphite moderated, light water cooled reactor with a positive void coefficient of reactivity designed to be a plutonium weapons breeder; this type of government design was always “outlawed” in the West, and US light water cooled and moderated reactors cannot by the laws of physics undergo a Chernobyl event.

    TMI unit 2 was a Combustion Engineering once through steam generator PWR; even so, when the worst happened, the radioactivity was contained in containment and no member of the publc was injured.

    was a British graphite moderated reactor whose graphite blocks caught fire; no such plant is licensed in the US.

    And as for spent fuel, that is an energy resource – NOT waste – whose long-lived actinides can be consumed in fast neutron reactors or Carlo Rubbia energy amplifiers, leaving behind only short lived radionuclides that decay in mere hundreds of years contrasted with the never-decay of the mercury released by coal fired power plants.

    All these things can be done with Westinghouse’s AP1000 design, GE’s ESBWR design or PRISM design, or a myriad others, but Barack Hussein Obama opposes these. He appointed anti-nuclear activist Gregory Jackzo as NRC Chairman and when Jackzo began abusing women on the job, he replaced him with geologist Allison MacFarlane who has not an ounce of nuclear or engineering experience or training and whose husband is an anthropologists of anti-nuclear activists. Obama’s DOE Secretary, Stephen Chu set up loan guarruntees for a new plant at Constellation Energy’s Calvert Cliff’s site in Maryland, and the terms oof the agreement would have bankrupt the company. Yet useless solar cell and wind turbine companies get hundreds of millions of dollars, often borrowed from communist China.

    Now how do I know these things? 30+ years of training and experience starting as a submarine reactor operator and continuing in the commercial nuclear power industry. A small pellet of uranium the size of a pencil eraser contains as much energy as 17,000 cubic feet of natural gas, or 1,780 pounds of coal, or 149 gallons of oil, and this pellet weighs approximately 7 grams. And all the “waste” (really just used fuel waiting to be recycled / reprocessed) is completely contained and sequestered, unlike coal and oil and gas whose refuse is dumped into the environment by 100s of millions of tons per year, and that refuse contains carcinogens which never ever decay away.

    Too many people mouth the liberal lie of renewable energy because public schools controlled by liberals teach neither critical thinking skills nor any real science (yet we conservatives are called anti-science – go figure!). It’s all physics – a 7 gram pellet or uranium or thorium or plutonium has the energy of almost a ton of coal, and when that ton is burned, where does its waste go (which still weighs a ton)?

  • Of course, I’m very disappointed by the outcome, but surprising I feel at peace. Maybe it’s because I now have clarity. There’s no more false hope of a political solution to what is a deep spiritual sickness. In the spiritual realm, I believe that Our Lord is dividing the sheep from the goats and preparing us for a purifying chastisement of some kind. I just hope and pray that I and everyone here, remain faithful to Him despite everything that will come. Another thing, the schism that took place in the American Catholic Church over Humanae Vitae will come out officially and the establishment of an American Patriotic Catholic Church loyal to the state (Obama), and not Rome is a real possibility. When I hear discussions from liberal catholics, especially at my place of employment, believe me, they would welcome it. “Gird your loins” indeed! We on the Christian right are up against a Marxist Left who has made common cause with Islam, and a ruling class that constantly stabs us in the back. Plus, “Vichy” catholics within the Church who may collaborate in that persecution. We may very well be reduced to a Gideon’s Army, but will ultimately become the corner stone of the new America that will rise out of the ashes

  • Sorry, Donald, that I got carried away w/ myself again in that response to Jay Junk. It isn’t possible to “sound-bite” a complex topic like energy and liberal mis-management thereof. An understanding of physics and engineering is required along with an accurate history what the politicians did. An ability in logical reasoning is also required. Too many are subject to the disinformation of the media and don’t know the facts, or have never been taught to actually think critically.

    That said, I do believe there is hope – Faith, Hope and Love. I do not know if the Republic can be saved, but I for one will not surrender. I won’t just give up on what I know to be best and truest of America. And while I may loathe and detest Obama, the right thing to do is shower him with prayer, not hate him. I was thinking about that at lunch time as I was limping along in my leg brace for exercise and praying my Rosary. How often have I prayed the Rosary for our elected leaders? Maybe I shouldn’t complain. Maybe I should pray the Serenity Prayer a lot more than I have been.

    BTW, today is the Glorious Mysteries. The victory was already won on Calvary, and all we are seeing is the Devil squirming. He lost back then, and while this battle didn’t go for us as we would like, God has been good to each of us, so I need to put some gratitude in my attitude. Please remind me of that in the next post comment when I go off the deep end – again! My short term memory sucks.

  • With several times the money, Romney couldn’t get out as many voters as McCain. That is a pretty significant lesson, too.

    I am not sure what the lesson is. It looks as if voter turnout is returning to historical norms, having been quite elevated in 2004 and 2008.

  • Art,

    The lesson is that unless the money goes right into the pocket of the voter, campaign spending doesn’t increase turnout among people disinclined to vote. The only other way that it might have an effect is if someone personally cajoled each such person and offered to stand in line for them until they got to the check in table. I predict the Dems will have email voting by 2020.

  • Maybe, Art. But it may also point out a structural flaw in the GOP’s organization–it can raise gobs of cash, but it can’t get out the vote.

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  • The GOP largely relies on volunteers to get out the vote while the Democrats largely rely on paid staffers. I think the days of relying on volunteer ad hoc organizations to get out the vote may have reached its shelf life. The Democrats actually stood in awe of the Republican get out the vote effort in 2004 in Ohio which was quite successful. They copied it and have improved upon it.

  • @Paul Primavera
    Thank you for your post. As a female, Catholic, chemist, I get tired of the “liberals love science”/”conservatives are knuckle dragging morons” narrative. It is government regulation that keeps us from building the new nuclear reactors. It is liberal government that perpetuates the “green energy” canard.
    When the “green energy” folks start talking, I want to tell them: “Until you can tell me the ideal gas law equation and do a simple calculation using this equation, don’t talk to me about science.”

  • The GOP largely relies on volunteers to get out the vote while the Democrats largely rely on paid staffers. I think the days of relying on volunteer ad hoc organizations to get out the vote may have reached its shelf life.

    When I volunteered outside the polling place yesterday, I had to bring my own table. I had no banner or any other means to identify that I was affiliated with the GOP. The Democrats had a large tent, and at least three groups of people rotating – one handing out a Democrat sample ballot, one advocating on behalf of question 6 (gay marriage), and one pair of volunteers advocating for all the ballot initiatives.

    Now this is the bluest part of a blue state, so it’s probably not really fair to compare. I’m sure there was some poor Democrat equivalent to me in west Texas (though noticeably warmer). But, there is definitely a lack of a solid organization that could at least put the state more in play.

  • Thanks, Deb!

    Ideal Gas Law Equation: PV = nRT

    Hour 1 of day 1 in Heat Transfer and Fluid Flow in US Naval Nuclear Power School, circa 1977.

    But I am a knuckle dragging, Bible believing, Mass attending Christian conservative.

  • “The GOP largely relies on volunteers to get out the vote while the Democrats largely rely on paid staffers. I think the days of relying on volunteer ad hoc organizations to get out the vote may have reached its shelf life.”

    Money in the pocket is a consistent motivator. not the best motivator or a noble motivator but the most consistent. My experiences in VA echo Mr Zummo’s. No contest in the “on the ground” organization. The Dems also knocked on doors of registered voters or maybe voters who had recently voted to pressure them to vote.

  • Paul Primavera, I always enjoy your posts.

    The logic of what you say gets overwhelmed by the nonsense of things like The China Syndrome and half-baked attempts at reporting what goes on in nuclear power. Just like coal, radical envoirnmentalists hate nuclear power and that is that.

    I have worked doing financial and regulatory reporting in health insurance since 1989. Obamacare likely means the end of my job and career sometime in the future. The lamestream media has long blamed health insurance companies for all if the ills in health care.

    What we have in the majority of the electorate consist of the multiple pierced and tattooed, with ear plugs, the faithful readers of the supermarket magazines who swoon over all things Kardashian, Hollywood – who shapes culture now, and I could go on but I won’t.

  • Paul W. Primavera, your posts concerning the pros and cons of various energy sources have always and will continue to fascinate me. I’m not scientific, just endlessly curious. Thanks!

    America may not seem at all like the same country many of us were born into (i.e. pre-Roe vs. Wade) but I don’t feel like giving up on my homeland quite yet. Hard not to be afraid, though, afraid of what comes after this unnerving election. Padre Pio, pray for us worriers.

  • Paul Z – You were the first one to point out what a lackluster campaign both Senate candidates in VA were running. That really did stand out to me. The best lacked all conviction, while the worst kind of lacked conviction too. I think the power has been shifting toward Northern VA for a while now. Also, the Democratic Party didn’t really suffer the same devastation as in other Southern states through the 1970’s to 2000’s. Part of that probably has to do with the one-term governorship, which has required both parties to push new talent forward. Though “talent” may not be the right word.

    I can’t shake the feeling that the VA Republicans just wanted to sit this one out. I think the same thing happened in FL, where they’ve been on the wrong end of a national co-dependent relationship, always being asked to carry an extra burden. They seemed exhausted after getting Rubio in office.

  • Maybe, Art. But it may also point out a structural flaw in the GOP’s organization–it can raise gobs of cash, but it can’t get out the vote.

    OK. The thing is, campaign techniques come to matter because these elections are so closely contested.

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    Just to re-iterate: the U.S. Senate has not passed a budget in three years and the majority caucus increases in size. Masses of young people are unemployed, and they vote for the incumbent party by a large majority. There does appear to be a durable shift toward the Democratic Party in presidential contests in recent years in spite of flagrant fiscal mismanagement and in spite of imposing on the public a medical insurance scheme that that public dislikes. (And, yet, the Republican Party had its best back-to-back performance in contests for the House of Representatives since 1928, go figure). Making sense of this would tax just about anyone’s skills.

    A while back, Donald Douglas said we had developed a terrible problem of collective action. I think we can see this comes not only from institutional defects which have been manifest for at least a generation, but from cultural ones as well. People disagree about whether the restructuring of the political economy during the years running from 1933 to 1947 was wise, but the people who undertook this restructuring could at least keep simple accounts and organize common activities. Public sector borrowing was kept within bounds prior to the war and national mobilization and demobilization were expeditious. Imagine that now.

    Elite positions are occupied by creatures such as Harry Reid, who has no sense of stewardship, and nothing they do persuades a decisive segment of the electorate to get rid of them. One might say we will learn the hard way that this is no way to run a government, but our problem may be less tractable than that. It may be that the way people process experience robs it of its power to teach. We saw what this looked like in the Southern Cone of South America a generation ago: a long period of relative economic decline and intense political contention before exasperated military officers put worthless politicians and their clueless constituents on a half-generation long time out. If we are fortunate, our junta will be run by officers like those in Chile and not those in Argentina.

  • Art says “And, yet, the Republican Party had its best back-to-back performance in contests for the House of Representatives since 1928, go figure)”

    Its due to an off year landslide coupled with census based gerrymandering. That will work only to 2020.

    “The U.S. Senate has not passed a budget in three years and the majority caucus increases in size. ”

    From the standpoint of the public a budget is passed every year. They don’t understand the difference between a regular budget and a continuing resolution. A CR technically hamstrings new spending but Obama operates the Executive without much financial oversight so he moves money around and redefines legislation to suit the Dems. The budget is so bloated that there’s enough money sloshing around to keep everyone quiet.

  • As I have stated before, help is on the way in the Church via younger priests, nun, seminarians and novices who actually believe what the Church teachers. Unfortunately, they are having to combat 50 years of societal indoctrination by the Far Left. Historically, we have been through this before and we will eventually prevail, though I hate to count the cost.

    In the meantime, we need to pray that our country doesn’t go the way of past world powers, disappearing into the mists of history.

  • “Its due to an off year landslide coupled with census based gerrymandering. That will work only to 2020.”

    In 2010 the Republicans won in districts that had often been gerrymandered against them. Your argument also does not explain 2006 and 2008 where the Republicans suffered huge losses in the House.

  • “The budget is so bloated that there’s enough money sloshing around to keep everyone quiet.”

    People did not keep quiet in 2009 and 2010 and I doubt if they will keep quiet in 2013 and 2014. Pessimism should always be tempered by reality.

  • “OK, so Obama won. Now the Catholic Church has to really energize itself to stand up, light its lamp, gird its loins, and preach and act on Catholic teaching and Catholic values. We have good leaders we can count on: Dolan, George, Fr. Barron among them”

    ROTFL – if anyone thinks that the Bishop who sits and laughs with the abortionist in chief, or the Bishop who allows “Fr. Phleger” a continuing pulpit (and that is only one of many errant priest – I know because I live in this diocese) are going to lead anyone into battle for the sake of Catholic principles they are kidding themselves. I also have had the opportunity to watch a few of Fr. Barron’s “Catholicism” series and can not believe that someone who make the religious equivalent of Obama’s apology tour is likely to take up the cause either.

    We have been assured that the Church will prevail in the end – surely God alone will gain the glory as he seems to have no one to fight for him and for his children save himself.

  • Sigh. Harry Reid.

    You know, I was aware that Romney might not win. It was no sure thing. But the Senate is what really knocked the wind out of me today. The Republicans were supposed to pick up 7 seats this year. They ended up losing two. Every close race broke the other way.

    I know. At least we kept the House. But there aren’t many sentences that begin with “at least” that can describe this election. Maybe I’m feeling it worse, as a Marylander, where we apporved gay marriage, a ridiculous redistricting (seriously, you’ve got to look up the map for it, it’s unbelievable), and that horrible casino expansion. But two other states went for gay marriage too, and a few states expanded the use of marijuana. At least we kept the House. And at least Joe Donnelly is good on the issues. And at least Deb Fischer isn’t Bob Kerrey. But that’s about it.

  • Donald, I was referring to the people or various special interest groups taking the money as being quiet about the lack of a budget, not conservatives. Conservatives have been pretty even handed about criticizing Repub and Dem administrations on this, agreed.

    As for the House, obviously a landslide can’t occur without some overrunning of established district preferences. Even gerrymandered districts differ in degree with some more tenuous. We have had an unusual string of Congressional landslides in a short period. My point is that absent a landslide the gerrymandering will prevail. There was no landslide in 2012 obviously so the gerrymandering was effective. I specifically noted the counterexample of Illinois which the Dems gerrymandered in 2010. Lo and behold Repubs lost most of their seats there this cycle. I just want to caution folks about reading too much from a policy standpoint in the Repubs doing so well in the House. The landslide of 2010 was particularly well timed because it came in a census year. This also affected the state legislatures. I do not expect the Repubs to lose the House until 2020 at the earliest. You see what happened with the Dems when they had a landslide but couldn’t re -gerrymander the districts as well. They were swept out rather easily in 2010.

    Unfortunately with an autocratic President control of the House means less than it otherwise would, particularly where the Repubs won’t refuse to pass a CR.

  • “Sigh. Harry Reid.”

    I believe that Dingy Harry will be very effective at electing Republicans in 2014. This election was a disaster and there is no way to sugar coat it. It is especially disturbing because it comes after a disastrous first term for Obama and the expectation of victory. However, the vote totals were closer than in 2008 and I do not think this was an ideological election, but rather that the Republicans got taken to the cleaners by a superb get out the vote machine of the Democrats. One advantage of being beaten is that it can be a great learning experience, and there is much to learn from yesterday.

  • Sorry I meant 2022 at the earliest. Gerrymandering is becoming more of an exact science than it was in the past so the Repubs should be fairly safe for this decade.

  • It was a good election result in many ways. No amount of money swung the votes in Romney’s favour which shows that a substantial proportion of the Republican pool are a principled lot. He was unlikely to have gone against the various oligarchies – http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html. I hope this marks the end of the elusive “values bloc” with Latinos and migrants from Asia, who supposedly put family values above their sectarian interests. When the beans are counted it is their votes which were decisive in putting Obama over the top. The Republicans need a bruiser like Richard Nixon, but whether such a character can rise up through the crybaby primaries remains to be seen.

  • “It was a good election result in many ways. No amount of money swung the votes in Romney’s favour which shows that a substantial proportion of the Republican pool are a principled lot.”

    Rubbish. Almost all Republicans greatly preferred Romney to Obama.

    “The Republicans need a bruiser like Richard Nixon,”

    Nixon was a crook Ivan and a big government man. Wage and price controls ring a bell? He set the party up for one if its biggest electoral losses in its history in 1974.

  • “The Republicans need a bruiser like Richard Nixon,”

    For what? Political patronage? Mr. Nixon had his virtues, but they found little expression in public life.

    1. The man was a wretched administrator. Read the accounts of John Dean and Richard Nathan about how business got done in the Nixon Administration. There was little mind given to political appointments. They could not trust their own patronage recipients to actually implement (much less design) Administration policy and not to be captured by the permanent government and then attempted to supervise them by manufacturing a hypertrophied White House Staff.

    2. An aspect of that was Nixon’s wretched inner life. He could deal with only a few people one-on-one without a prepared script in hand and found it nearly impossible to fire anyone. Read Ron Nessen’s memoir of the Ford Administration. Henry Kissinger was always a difficult man, but he never attempted to jerk Ford around in the manner that was routine with Nixon.

    3. Nixon was about Nixon. He had little in the way of an ideological or programmatic center of gravity and went to and fro according to the kultursmog of the political establishment and calculations of electoral advantage. Much to the exasperation of pols like Robert Dole, he manifested little committment to building the Republican Party as an institution. Dole recalled the 1972 election as an abnormal opportunity “and we spent it all on the presidential race”.

    4. A consequence of factors 1 & 2 was the Watergate scandal. Behind all that were men whose deficit of scruple finally caught up with them (John Mitchell, H.R. Haldeman), a whole crew of people who had no business holding responsible positions (the young Charles Colson, John Dean, Howard Hunt, Gordon Liddy, John Ehrlichman), men lost in their own apparatchikiness (Jeb Magruder, Dwight Chapin, Egil Krough), and various rogues who just needed the work (Donald Segretti, Anthony Ulaszewicz, Bernard Barker &co.). They were pursuing (among other) a mess of others who had no business holding responsible positions (Morton Halperin, Daniel Ellsburg) or were just plain rogues (Jack Anderson). It was not until the Clinton years you had such a collection of non-talent in one place.

  • “The Republicans need a bruiser like Richard Nixon,”

    Nixon was a crook Ivan and a big government man. Wage and price controls ring a bell? He set the party up for one if its biggest electoral losses in its history in 1974.

    But at least Nixon won the presidency twice.. Romney couldn’t even beat a man who made Jimmy Carter look like George Washington.

  • Some Catholic bloggers give up blogging for Lent. I’m going to have to give it up during election and immediate post-election season because all the gloom and doom and handwringing is beginning to drive me barking mad to the point that my husband and daughter are noticing it, which is not good. I spent literally all night in front of the computer last night and was an emotional wreck this morning thinking about all this. Of course when I get like this my husband cites it as evidence that I “take religion and politics much too seriously” and should be doing something more useful like cleaning house… grrr… but maybe he’s right. Anyway, in order not to spend the next few months getting ready for the men in white coats, I’m going to have to take a hiatus from visiting this site until we all get the election out of our system. In the meantime I will just say extra prayers every day for you all and concentrate on serving my family and the public well and treating everyone with respect and kindness. Blessings to all.

  • Obama did not win the INFORMED AND FAITHFUL Catholic vote. Only uninformed and/or unfaithful secularists who claim to be “Catholic” voted for Obama. There’s a Pacific-sized difference between those two demographics as in opposite ends of the spectrum.

    We have a lot of education work to do in the New Evangelization.

  • The main thing that makes me so sad about this is how so many people here are so sad about this. Forget whether four years of Mr. Weathervane, hardly the local favorite back during the primaries, would have really turned the game around given that everyone knew the election was going to be close. Forget the fact that rejoicing when gay marriage loses by only a few points and wailing when it wins by the same amount is a tragic example of simply not getting it. One would still hope that Catholics, of all people, could be more far-sighted and circumspect regarding how our plight compares with *real* setbacks over the last two millennia. To take just one example, it took about five centuries of heroic effort, diluted by incessant Christian infighting and betrayals, to drive the Ottomans out of Europe. Granted, it wasn’t Don John or Jan Sobieski who did as much to knock them out as it was the Mongols, and come to think of it, another half century of socialist multikulti might put an ironic epilogue to that particular saga, but my point remains. Why would anyone expect socialism to be a less intransigent foe than were the Ottomans?

    Get a spine, people. Leave the hyperventilating to the liberals.

  • On the subject of “alternative energy,” it is interesting that, in France, the whole green agenda has come under attack from the Hard Left, particularly the Anarcho-Sydicalists, Anti-Globalist and Anti-Capitalist groups, who see it as a pretext for state control:

    “Without ecology, nothing would have enough authority to gag any and all objections to the exorbitant progress of control.

    Tracking, transparency, certification, eco-taxes, environmental excellence, and the policing of water, all give us an idea of the coming state of ecological emergency. Everything is permitted to a power structure that bases its authority in Nature, in health and in well-being.”

  • [T]he inevitable “why didn’t we nominate a conservative?” perspective that will likely be all over radio tomorrow is totally wrong. …the problem is that he was perceived by a good portion of the electorate to be some kind of extremist (or, at least, “captive” to alleged extremists).
    JDP

    Mitt was perceived that way because he was painted that way by the Establishmen Media.

    Here’s something extra to think about: if another person had won the Republican nomination, what other charges of “extremist!” could the Establishment Media have pinned on him? Speaker Gingrich has been married 3 times? Santorum is — ewww — Catholic? Rick Perry is from Texas and owns a gun?

    [D]oes this mean we gotta go all Jon Hunstman next election…? no.

    I agree, JDP. The Obama campaign and its Establishment Media bylined operatives threw about all the nasty and invented charges they could throw at any conservative Republican at Romney. Nominating Milquetoast Mitt, former governor of Massachusetts (hardly friendly to hard-core conservatives!), didn’t cause the leftists to hold back any of their vitriol, cheap shots, and dirty media tricks. So I ask, next election why not go with a real conservative who’ll stand up for America’s core Judeo-Christian values?

    I think the whole “if the GOP ditched the social issues they’d’ve won” perspective is off too, although that certainly played a role to an extent.

    I agree with you on that too, JDP.

    If there was anything to be gained by “ditch(ing) the social issues” the Libertarian Party candidate would have – in my opinion – climbed to double digit percentages of the total vote, a record. (Even 1.1% would have been an all-time LP high.) Didn’t happen.

    I do expect to see talk on the social issues to increasingly become talk about fiscal responsibility. The effort to defund Planned Parenthood is a prototypical example of such a move. In a welfare state all social pathologies cost the public treasury money so there’s lots of opportunity to curb social pathologies by turning off the cash spigots that directly and indirectly pay to enable them.

  • “But at least Nixon won the presidency twice.”

    Nixon lost the presidency in 1960, almost lost the presidency in 1968 at a time when the Democrats were engaging in self-immolation, won a landslide victory in 1972 when a ham sandwich running on the Republican line could have done the same, and then immediately threw his victory away by refusing to immediately come clean on the Watergate mess.

  • “Blessings to all.”

    Blessings to you Elaine. Politics is always a business of, as Kipling said, “If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;”. The victories are never final and the defeats are never lasting. The important thing is to learn from both and to use that knowledge next time around to advance the causes you believe in.

  • If 50% of Catholics voted for a pro-abort candidate, how will the Church be persecuted? They obviously don’t adhere to its teachings preferred to betray her Savior than to change their evil ways.

    Kyrie Eleison.

  • Donald,
    RM Nixon in comparison with the men of his time was no great crook. He did not have an extended and powerful family like Kennedy to handle the skullduggery, hence the presence of unsavory characters in his kitchen cabinet. The man was subjected to a constant stream of villification and had to defend himself with no help from the press. A personal hobglobin in the form of Jack Anderson pursued him throughout his career and the East Coast set hated him from his HUAC days.

    He was a pragmatist in taking the US out of the unsustainable Gold Standard and imposed a temporary wage and price freeze based on sound advice. The effect of going from trust based on gold to one based on government fiat is different from the “oil shock ” which came during the Yom Kippur War during his term. In the former, there is no reason for relative prices to change drastically unless the US government itself collapses in which case some caudillo would have already made out with the gold in Fort Knox; in the latter there is real inflation based on the drastic rise in the price of a basic input. The EPA which came in his term was necessary for ensuring a clean environment, a task that no private sector company would have undertaken since there is no money in it. Government is a neccesary evil when it comes to safeguarding the commons. The problem is that in the US it is often captured by the incompetent and corrupt.

    Dr Kissinger was often taunted as a court Jew and had to show his mettle by embellishing his record. His account does not comport with the Nixon who saved Israel by ordering the massive airlift over Kissinger’s timidity. Nixon didn’t allow Israel which had at that time no great friends in the US after Liberty to “twist slowly in the wind”. In the middle of a war against a ruthless enemy in Vietnam, the press was going full court in undermining his efforts, his defects pale in comparison to their treachery. It wasn’t just to save his hide that tried to salvage Watergate, I surmise that he suspected correctly that the press and the anitwar faction were going to blow it up out of all proportion, in order to destroy his war effort. Sun-Tzu the military theorist who seem to have distilled all the wisdom of village crones advised tha “the one who betrays a secret must be put to death along with the one he told it to.” Now there is little doubt that the Vietnamese and Chinese for whom this would be mother’s milk, understood that when Nixon could not stop Ellsburg from publishing the Pentagon Papers, that he had lost control, his mojo even for while the Vietnamese had no hope of defeating the US in battle they knew that they could rely on their friends in the US to deliver victory to them.

  • MPS wrote in part, ““Without ecology, nothing would have enough authority to gag any and all objections to the exorbitant progress of control….”

    Progress – economic, industrial and technological – can only be safely pursued by access to low cost, reliable energy. Dr. Bernard Cohen, Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Pittsburgh, tells us how, particularly in his work, The Nuclear Energy Option (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/BOOK.html):

    http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/

    Just scroll down the wbe page for all the various links to his papers. Kindly read what a real scientist has to say:

    Test of the linear-no threshold theory …. (8.8 MB PDF)
    Update of test of the linear-no threshold theory …. (4.0 MB PDF)
    Cancer Risk from Low-Level Radiation
    Catalog of risks (17.0 MB PDF)
    Risk Analysis of Buried Wastes from Electricity Generation (5.0 MB PDF)
    Discounting in Assessment of Future Radiation Risks (5.1 MB PDF)
    Treatment of Confounding Factors in a Test of the Linear-No Threshold Theory, or Test of Linear-No Threshold Theory: Rationale for Procedures (186 kB HTML)
    Test of the Linear-no Threshold Theory-Recent Semi-popular (71 kB HTML)
    The Cancer Risk from Low Level Radiation (601 kB PDF)
    Probabilistic risk analysis of a high level radioactive waste repository (37 kB HTML)
    Perspectives on the risks from buried high level waste (98 kB HTML)
    Book-The Nuclear Energy Option (1.5 MB HTML)
    Instruction for accessing data file (6 kB HTML)
    Response to The potential for bias in Cohen’s ecological analysis of lung cancer and residential radon (23 kB HTML)
    Response to suggestion by Puskin of an alternative explanation of my data
    Response to Mossman Letter to Editor, Health Physics News, July 2003
    Understanding the Toxicity of Buried Radioactive Waste and Its Impacts

    —–

    God has provided enough thorium and uranium in Earth’s crust to power human civilization at the energy consumption level of the average American for tens of thousands of years without polluting the environment. That is no exaggeration. We don’t do it for the same reasons that Obama got re-elected: sin – the sin of greed, the sin of liberal-ISM: I-Self-Me.

  • “RM Nixon in comparison with the men of his time was no great crook.”

    Oh yes he was Ivan. The fact that other politicians of his time, LBJ comes to mind, were also great crooks does not negate this reality.

    “The man was subjected to a constant stream of villification and had to defend himself with no help from the press.”

    Poor baby! Such villification is a common fact of life for most Republican politicians. Reagan got just as much without engaging in the criminal and stupid actions that Nixon did.

    “imposed a temporary wage and price freeze based on sound advice.”
    The advice was foolishness and did nothing to curb inflation. Even a cursory look at history would have shown him that such a move was self-defeating, but for all his self-vaunted intellect Nixon never did give much evidence of learning from history.

    “The EPA which came in his term was necessary for ensuring a clean environment,”

    Absolutely not, and it has been a curse on this country ever since.

    “Government is a neccesary evil when it comes to safeguarding the commons.”

    Government is often a cure that is worse than the illness it seeks to correct. Nixon was one of the prime builders of the modern US welfare state.

    “Nixon didn’t allow Israel which had at that time no great friends in the US after Liberty to “twist slowly in the wind”.”

    Actually Israel was overwhelmingly popular on both sides of the aisle in Nixon’s time.

    “I surmise that he suspected correctly that the press and the anitwar faction were going to blow it up out of all proportion, in order to destroy his war effort.”

    Nixon was always a paranoid fruit loop and that destroyed him. McGovern was absolutely no threat to him politically. A 15 minute speech denouncing aides who went too far would have solved the whole mess for him, and the idiot instead destroyed himself with a futile coverup.

  • A 15 minute speech denouncing aides who went too far would have solved the whole mess for him, and the idiot instead destroyed himself with a futile coverup.

    It would not have worked. The ‘aides’ in question included his campaign director, (who was also the former Attorney-General), the deputy campaign director, and the general counsel to the Committee to Re-elect the President. The treasurer of the CRP and one of H.R. Haldeman’s secretaries also had some knowledge of what was up, though they were not implicated. The whole business was an extension of the Plumbers operation, so coming clean meant taking out anyone implicated in that (John Ehrlichman, for one). Given that the chief of security at his campaign headquarters was among those arrested (walking around with phony identification), it is amazing the whole mess took as long as it did to unravel. Nixon’s personal relationship with John Mitchell precluded coming clean.

  • Ivan,

    Again, I refer you to Ron Nessen. Gerald Ford maintained a cold contempt for Richard Nixon and took years to forgive him. The reason for that was that Nixon had violated codes that politicians observe amongst themselves. Barry Goldwater’s views were similar. Read some of George Will’s early columns to get a sense of what Gordon Allott and his staff thought of Nixon. The Kennedys were godawful (and treated with kid gloves by the press) and Lyndon Johnson was thorough in his absence of scruple. Nixon was not the singular figure that hackademics and hack journalists claimed he was. Doesn’t make him kosher. We could have done better (and did, before 1961 and after 1974).

  • Government is often a cure that is worse than the illness it seeks to correct. Nixon was one of the prime builders of the modern US welfare state.

    Ivan has a point. Common property resources and externalities are market failures. The EPA’s methods and specific policy decisions can be criticized, but an appratus like the EPA is legitimate and useful at all levels. We need a better EPA, not no EPA.

  • Nixon was one of the prime builders of the modern US welfare state.

    He wasn’t. Nixon, with the assistance of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, made a failed attempt to rationalize federal welfare programs and grants to the states generally. He did succeed in arranging for the dismantling of the Office of Economic Opportunity, the Great Society’s most misbegotten agency.

  • Everybody knows that Kennedy stole the election in 1960, which was razor close. In any event, it can be safe to say Nixon waw far better at winning presidential elections than Romney, who, let me repeat, lost to the man who made Jimmy Carter look like George Washington. Donald, as one who studies military history, you know that when fight to not lose instead of fighting to win, you usually lose. And Romney fought to not lose. Oh, can we now say that Michael Barone was wrong…again?

    Another thing, listening to pundits like Karl Rove Charles Krauthammer make asses of themselves post election would be funny if it wasn’t so painful. Krauthammer’s “He won, biut he doesn’t have a mandate.” was a classic for the ages. Since when has that stopped Obama? Did he have a mandate to inmpose Obamacare on an American public that anoverwhelming majority of Americans did not want? If the Consitition doesn’t stop him from making recess appointments while the Senate is not in recess or imposing this HHS mandate, what’s a lack of a mandate.

  • Everybody knows that Kennedy stole the election in 1960, which was razor close.

    Umm, no. There is a reasonable inference that the electoral votes of Illinois were stolen. Illinois would not have sufficed for Nixon.

  • The Kennedy myth may or may not be true. Historians differ, arguing over the facts in IL, TX and MO. After reading many of the arguments, I’m inclined to think that Kennedy did steal it, but I’m not remotely certain — and no reasonable person can be.

  • “Nixon’s personal relationship with John Mitchell precluded coming clean.”

    Mitchell would have gladly taken the fall for Nixon and John Ehrlichman, if he had been assured of a pardon down the road, would have also. Haldeman would have gladly died for Nixon.

  • “Everybody knows that Kennedy stole the election in 1960”

    It was LBJ who did the stealing in Texas. Daley stole elections in Illinois as a matter of course.

  • “it can be safe to say Nixon was far better at winning presidential elections than Romney, who, let me repeat, lost to the man who made Jimmy Carter look like George Washington.”

    Nixon did not have the demographic problems confronting Romney, and Obama is a far abler politician than Humphrey or McGovern, both of whom were leading the Democrats at a time when the party was falling apart. Nixon in both 68 and 72 had a cakewalk compared to Romney this year. Not that Romney is a great politician, but Nixon was a truly miserable one, at least in his post Veep career. I do enjoy viewing his Checkers Speech however which amply displays Nixon’s talent for prevarication, schmaltz and self-pity. It saved his neck however, and in some ways Obama reminds me of Nixon but with much greater political skill.

Election Day and Night Live Blog

Tuesday, November 6, AD 2012

So the day has arrived at last.  Our political adversaries are not orcs, but I must say I have been waiting for this day through four long years, and I am as eager to vote against Obama and his party as the Rohirrim were eager to smash the army of Sauron at Minas Tirith.  This is our live blog for this election day and night.  All contributors to TAC are welcome to post on it.  Passions no doubt will be running rather high today, and I will be attempting to keep these words of Abraham Lincoln in mind:

I thank you, in common with all others, who have thought fit, by their votes, to indorse the Republican cause. I rejoice with you in the success which has, so far, attended that cause. Yet in all our rejoicing let us neither express, nor cherish, any harsh feeling towards any citizen who, by his vote, has differed with us. Let us at all times remember that all American citizens are brothers of a common country, and should dwell together in the bonds of fraternal feeling.

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  • From the 1928 BCP:

    ALMIGHTY God, who hast given us this good land for our heritage; We humbly beseech thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of thy favour and glad to do thy will. Bless our land with honourable industry, sound learning, and pure manners. Save us from violence, discord, and confusion; from pride and arrogancy, and from every evil way. Defend our liberties, and fashion into one united people the multitudes brought hither out of many kindreds and tongues. Endue with the spirit of wisdom those to whom in thy Name we entrust the authority of government, that there may be justice and peace at home, and that, through obedience to thy law, we may show forth thy praise among the nations of the earth. In the time of prosperity, fill our hearts with thankfulness, and in the day of trouble, suffer not our trust in thee to fail; all which we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

  • In keeping with President Lincolns suggestion I
    walk with purpose to the poll. An envelope filled with voter guides. May brotherly love still my heart which so longs for an Obama defeat. If you want, I will give you an update from the parking lot of the polling center.
    Just a comparison of 08′ temperament vs. today.

  • May God bless America.

  • I’ll be going to the polling place in about 30 minutes. I’ll come back and give my impression of the mood and description of the turnout.

  • Thank you Larry. That is precisely the type of report I want to see in the comboxes all day.

  • Hey, who knows? If it’s exciting and raucous and overrun with Union thugs, I might even have accompanying video!

  • That’s what I’m counting on! 🙂

  • I was at my precinct as it opened today at 6:30. There were nearly 100 people lined up. I live in Delaware County, Ohio, just north of Columbus, which is a GOP stronghold. Here’s hoping we election day voters are enough to swamp the Democrats early balloting electioneering.

  • I think this will be a Pauline Kael election for the media Darwin!

  • An American’s Prayer for Forgiveness
    Heavenly Father, we as Americans have lost our way, we have forsaken your love and gone our own way into self indulgence through our desire for personal gratification in every aspect of our lives.
    We have lost our grip on your eternal truth. We have chosen comfort over compassion; want over worship, pleasure over perseverance, personal satisfaction over eternal salvation, and now entitlements over personal efforts or sacrifice. Many now depend on the words, power, and promises of “Caesar” more than your eternal word.
    We want to come home to you as prodigal sons and daughters seeking your mercy upon us and our nation that we may be forgiven for our many offenses marked by our willingness to permit evil intent and false doctrines espoused by our own leaders to creep into our lives and society.
    We have not been vigilant, we have hidden our lamps under the bushel, and we have often remained silent as your tenants were judged unworthy by our authorities. As your word and laws were being removed from public buildings and our schools within the sight of our children we mumbled to ourselves rather than witness our faith to those who deny you. We’ve allowed evil to infiltrate our culture one “benefit” or “right” at a time.
    We seek through your mercy and forgiveness that within our nation your truth may at last be saved from corruption by those evil forces that care not for your law or love.
    We ask through this prayerful petition that for the sake of all the faithful here and in heaven that you might come to us as did the prodigal’s father and lead us back into your graces and grant that our beloved America may yet be returned to the one nation under God it once was and our founders intended it to be.
    Amen

  • Hamilton County, Indiana: In line at 5:30 for 6:00 open. The polls opened promptly at 6, at which time the voting machines equally promptly refused to accept the initialization cards of the poll volunteers. For 10 minutes there was panic and stress, until somebody theorized they might be Microsoft products. So they rebooted, and viola, a-voting we did go. This is evidently a county-wide issue, so hopefully the light shone through everywhere else, although I’ve heard tell already of hour-long delays.

    Overwhelmingly Republican area, and easily 150 people in line at 6AM.

  • Rasmussen has party id R 5.8 which is unprecedented.

    I think that is an indication that Rasmussen’s polling should be regarded with reserve. The Roper Center has some historical statistics available on the self-identification of exit poll respondents. Democratic respondents have generally exceeded in number Republican respondents, by a median of 11.5%. As for non-aligned voters, the median figure is 26% of the electorate. One’s single best guess concerning the composition of the electorate would be 39% Democratic, 35% Republican, and 26% non-aligned. The implication of the polls we have seen, which have the number of Democratic respondents exceeding Republican respondents by 20%, 30%, or (in one case) 80% imply a durable shift in the composition of the presidential electorate, which is interesting considering that the Republican caucus in the House of Representatives is almost as large as it ever has been in the last 80-odd years. Usually, a candidate’s support among non-aligned voters does not run more than about 16% ahead or behind his support in the general electorate. I just saw a poll reported in the New York Post which had Romney’s support among non-aligned voters exceeded that in the general electorate by 49%. That is very peculiar and certainly unprecedented in the set of nine elections Roper has polled.

    Something very peculiar is happening with this election. Either the relationship among these variables has undergone a phase shift or the samples are junk.

  • “Something very peculiar is happening with this election. Either the relationship among these variables has undergone a phase shift or the samples are junk.”

    Rasmussen couldn’t believe his own data Art, and today he predicted a D-2 election which, if correct, is bad for Obama. At this point I am sceptical of all the Presidential polls. I think technology has largely passed telephone polls by, with the number of people that can wall themselves off from unwanted calls, and the breakdown of stable party allegiances among various groups.

  • OK, here’s the report from SE Michigan, Oakland County, Small Town. From the moment I got in line until I cast my ballot to fire the Marxist by electing the 45th President of the US: about 20 minutes. I was ballot #188. Mood was light, and there were no ruffians at the gate. Which is typical for my town.

    Looking forward to watching the results this evening – with adult beverages and unhealthy snacks on hand…

  • “Mood was light, and there were no ruffians at the gate. Which is typical for my town.”

    I was hoping Larry for a tale of how you had to battle your way through a cordon of Obama Youth in order to cast your ballot! 🙂

  • I was hoping Larry for a tale of how you had to battle your way through a cordon of Obama Youth in order to cast your ballot!

    Sorry to disappoint, Don. There wasn’t even broken glass to crawl over!

  • Went to the polling place and voted. Same mood as the Wisconsin recall election. Long lines and everyone in a hurry. Seemed like most people were are on mission.

  • and the breakdown of stable party allegiances among various groups.

    Actually, it looks to me as if party allegiances are set in marble (in comparison with election cycles prior to 2000). The thing is, phase shifts in party allegiance have occurred in the past. You can see that in the Roper data for 1976, 1980, and 1984. Most self-identified Democrats given to cross-over voting decamped elsewhere and about 40% of the non-aligned voters chose a side (with Republicans garnering the bulk). This particular phase shift was unsurprising and part of a social process that was ongoing and visible for three decades prior. If we are looking at a phase shift now, it certainly was not manifest in any measure six or seven years ago.

  • Update from NW Michigan-

    In two hours very positive response from public vs. last year this time. Guides were happily received.

  • “Actually, it looks to me as if party allegiances are set in marble ”

    I don’t think so Art. The suburbs for example. For a very long time they were Republican bastions. Then they began to lean Democrat. Now, who knows?

    Another example is Catholics. For ages a solid Democrat group. This began to change with McGovern in 1972. Now, who knows?

    I think it is much harder to make accurate demographic and geographic assumptions than it was previously for pollsters.

  • Voting place was packed. Stood in line 45 minhutes. Never seen it like than on an election year, even in an “on year”. Some people definately on a mission, a few jokes here and there. Others afraid.

  • I went to vote in the northeastern part of Charlotte, NC at about 0920 hours. Turnout was light. There were the usual Democratic supporters – almost all black – right outside the voting place. People inside were nice and cordial regardless of the accident of skin color. One of the record-keeping ladies wanted to assist me when she saw my cane and leg brace for my quadraceps – patella injury. I told her I was OK and then proceeded to where I could cast my vote. I used a cheat sheet from the Mecklenburg GOP. One of the overseers – a black gentleman whose duty it was to activate each electronic voting console prior to each vote – apparently saw it but said nothing. When I was done, he was very kind to give me directions on which exit to use, and I thanked him. It was different than the entrance, and I consdered nothing of it, thinking that perhaps the gentleman wanted to keep ingress and egress traffic separated. But the exit led directly to the large trash bins outside the facility and no one else used the exit after my departure. I was truly most amused. This is indeed quite laughable. That is the best that the Democratic opposition can do – to direct me to the trash. Ha! Ha! I wish that that black man knew that the person whom he apparently favors (a) supports the legal infanticide of the unborn which disproportionately impacts percentage-wise more of those of his own race, and (b) those policies and programs which keep such people – in fact, any people regardless of the accident of skin color – enslaved to the teat of the public treasury. Sad. Very sad. I hope for the best for that man and everyone else: the defeat of Barack Hussein Obama.

  • (Don’s wife Cathy here): I voted @ approx. 8:30AM local time (roughly 1 1/2 hrs. after Don did). The polling place for all 4 precincts in our town is the parish hall at our local Catholic church. Fairly busy parking lot, but not packed (I’ve seen it much more crowded for a Lenten fish fry, f.ex.); cars entering & leaving throughout. Short line to check in at my precinct’s table, but no line to wait for a voting booth. Livingston County overall is a heavily Republican area, with typically no Democrats bothering to run for local races or the state legislature (as was the case today). Our oldest son voted down at his college town (couldn’t find his voter registration card from when he registered up here, so registered down there).

  • I trust that the Lord God remains in control, that the world proceeds according to the will of Divine Providence, and that UPS will deliver the extra 10,000 rounds of .223 that I ordered before the polls close this evening…

  • I also voted at about 8:30 a.m local time, in a downtown Springfield polling place. There was no line and no waiting and I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. However, when I tried to vote early last Friday (at the Sangamon County Courthouse) there was a long line of people (I’d say at least 30 people) waiting to get in so I gave up and decided to go on Election Day. I suspect that a lot of people, at least in this area, voted early which reduced Election Day turnout.

  • Headed out to vote soon in the People’s Republic of Montgomery County, and will be spending most of the rest of the day at my polling location handing out literature and manning a table. I just drove by to put up signs, and the Democrats have an entire team in place, naturally. Not too busy right now, though it sounded as though it were fairly crowded this morning. As I mentioned in a tweet, I drove by a polling place in central DC at 10 and there was a line down the block. So this is looking like a high turnout election on both sides, and it will come down to who turns out the most.

  • For what’s its worth. Newsmax reporting that Michigan is tied thus far in early morning vote tabulation. Could be a great sign of things to come.

  • And by the way Don, I am feeling much better and didn’t need a barf bag.

  • If, God forbid, Obama gets four more years, he can blame himself for the mess he inherits.

    Mike,

    When the unsustainable inevitably collapses of its own evil you can use the ammo for barter.

    I too am stocking up: Scotch Whisky (purely for medicinal purposes). I’m looking at building a home distillery, too.

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  • Prince George’s County, Maryland – About one and a half hours. Roughly the same wait as in 2008. The ballot initiative that’s gotten the most attention is casino expansion, but there’s also gay marraige and the DREAM Act on the ballot.

  • Pinky – there was a ballot question about casinos? Do tell. 😉

    For those outside the Maryland area, we probably were inundated with as many ads on the casino as those in swing states were with presidential ads. The capper was Lavarr Arrington, the former Redskin, showing up in advertisements to shill for the casinos to urge folks to vote for question 7.

    I did get a robocall from Mike Huckabee to vote against question 6 (in other words to vote against gay marriage).

  • Report from the western suburbs of Denver, Colorado, ImportantSwingState.

    Arrived at my polling place shortly before the 7 am MST opening, and was 13th in line. Was able to vote against every incumbent, and election judge even correctly pronounced my last name correctly when she announced my ballot cast. Went to my children’s elementary school, which is also a polling place and they had a line out the door, for the 45 minutes I was there for “donuts with dad” Our neighborhood is in the competitive 7th CD, but with a long history of Democrats in the statehouse.

    “O beautiful for heroes proved
    In liberating strife.
    Who more than self their country loved
    And mercy more than life!
    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine
    Till all success be nobleness
    And every gain divine!”

  • Out of curiosity, what are peoples voting method preferences, paper or plastic (electronic cards)?

  • The “No on 7” ads were funded from OUT OF STATE! They don’t have Maryland’s best interests at heart! The “Yes” ads, I’m sure were funded by well-meaning plain folk who don’t think about things like money. I’ve always wondered, with all the ad time taken up by campaigns, does the movie industry see a drop in revenue for movies released during late-October / early-November? There hasn’t been a spare 10 seconds on DC television that didn’t have a Question 7 ad.

  • Paul D – I’m not worried about the security of electronic voting. I’m more concerned about a paper ballot being read and lost/damaged/disputed if the election official doesn’t like my choices.

  • I’m a paper guy. I was in and out in 20 minutes this morning…just spoke to a co-worker who votes electonically-it took her 3 hours to vote. Some of that can obviously be disparite populations, but some of it is systems needing to be rebooted and user confusion.

    Plus at my election site, the person who gives me a ballot gets confirmation from a second judge that my ballot is cast to insure that no ballots disappear. I’d assume it’s easy enough to check, then, that the number of votes cast are close to the number of ballots received…

  • We’ve always used paper in our area. Not sure when we will get electronic voting, since I think they only recently ungraded (within last ten years) our machines to be the “scantron” ballot type as opposed to “hanging chad” ballot type.

    Waiting in line was the longest part. Once I actually got my ballot, I was out in less than 10.

  • Paul D – I’m not worried about the security of electronic voting.

    I am. Just another case of introduction of technology for the hell of it.

  • The capper was Lavarr Arrington, the former Redskin, showing up in advertisements to shill for the casinos to urge folks to vote for question 7.

    Why can’t they leave it on the bloody Indian reservations?

  • As an aside, I’m off work today because Election Day is a holiday for Illinois state employees in even-numbered years (presidential years plus the gubernatorial/statewide office years). Apparently this is a holdover from the bad old days when most state employment was political patronage related (Democrat in Chicago but Republican in many downstate communities) and vast numbers of state employees, aware of which side their bread was buttered on, eagerly volunteered to participate in GOTV drives or serve as election judges, poll watchers, etc.

    However, now that most state employment is covered by the Supreme Court Rutan decision barring political patronage for positions that are not directly involved in policy making, and especially now that Illinois has early voting, I don’t see why the Election Day holiday is really necessary.

  • At townhall.com 29,000 + have taken exit polls. 76% voted R 21% for O and 3% Third party.

  • On Battlestar Galactica, they used paper. And these people had Faster Than Light drives.

  • Voted in Virginia in the pre-afternoon rush. About a 35 minute wait, which the poll attendants said was the shortest all day. (I presume it will pick up in the late hours.)

    I wish everyone peace no matter how this turns out.

  • Art says Why can’t they leave [casinos] on the bloody Indian reservations?

    Perhaps you haven’t noticed but Leftists love to regressively tax and gouge their low end (and info) voters. (Rich people pay less income tax in socialist and bankrupt Europe than they do here.) They relieve them of income tax but hit them with far more other kinds of taxes fees and desperation come-ons.

  • As for paper ballots, they have electronic readers for them too in VA and I assume other states. VA offers a choice between regular voting machine and a paper ballot which may also be optically read by a small test scoring machine.

  • I voted around 2:15pm. Took me the better part of 45 minutes to get to vote. I have never voted in this precinct before, so I don’t know what it signifies. At least part of the wait is the excessively long ballot for Michigan, with a ridiculous number of ridiculous constitutional proposals.

  • “Another example is Catholics. For ages a solid Democrat group. This began to change with McGovern in 1972. Now, who knows?”

    Is there really any such thing as the “Catholic vote” anymore? Catholic pundits like George Weigel would say no. I would be inclined to agree with him.

    Donald, voting against Obama in Illinois, is really nothing more than a statement. I am in the same postion here in CA. But it’s a statement worth making.

  • “On Battlestar Galactica, they used paper.”

    The first or second edition?

  • Seldom a line where my family votes, and no waiting at all today. LOTS of good cheer around the volunteers’ table, happy folks coming in, many smiles in this tiny patch of red rural NY. Maybe our votes don’t count for much up here, but hopefully our prayers are heard. Our Lady of All Graces, pray for us!

  • By the way what ever happened to the much awaited October or November surprise?? Was the Gloria Allred fiasco supposed to be the gambit? Or maybe Hurricane Sandy (smile)?? With this bunch I was certain they would pull something. What gives??

  • Suz,

    “It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.”

    I’m about to pack it in at work and toddle over to the LIRR to go home and vote.

    If nothing else, we have done our duty as we saw it.

    T.

    “O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”

  • Grr just watched two videos at FOX news with both of the campaigns’ managers or publicists or something like that. Romney’s talked about how turnout was great and they were very optimistic and Obama’s spent half her time saying how she wishes the people will call Romney’s bluff and his last failed attempt to win voters and so on… I guess since there’s nothing good to say about Obama this wast the best way to user her time

  • @ Phillip

    I am referring to the second. I don’t recall if they had a presidential election in the first.

  • (Don’s wife Cathy here): Anything computerized in Battlestar Galactica was assumed to be vulnerable to infiltration/hacking by the Cylons, which is why (in the remake series, at least) they not only used paper ballots for elections, but wired telephones for internal ship communications.
    Kind of like the suspicions raised over electronic voting machines showing a vote for Obama after Romney was selected . . . ;(

  • LOTS of good cheer around the volunteers’ table, happy folks coming in, many smiles in this tiny patch of red rural NY.

    Where you be? I will be voting in New York for the last time this year.

  • Just got back from taking communion to oldies in a couple of rest homes. Off in an hour to Holy Hour for Marian Movement for Priests, then off to my mate Chas Kiriham’s place to watch the results of your election. It’ s currently 11.40 am. here (on Wednesday). We’ll have a coffee first, then about 3.30 pm. I’m sure a goodly bottle of Nelson’s Blood will emerge, with the appropriate mixer, and we’ll relax to watch Romney bury Obama. (That’s the plan, anyway) 🙂

  • T. Shaw: exactly. A duty, and a pleasure, if only because of the bigger picture.
    Art Deco: a four-corners between Syracuse and Rochester; okay it’s the middle of nowhere. Green fields & red voters. Sigh. I wish you happiness wherever you happen to vote next time around.

  • “voting against Obama in Illinois, is really nothing more than a statement.”

    Maybe so, but I think it’s a pretty significant statement. If Obama loses downstate (likely) AND the Chicago suburbs (possible) to Romney, and wins Illinois only or primarily on the strength of Cook County it will be a very strong indicator of how badly he has alienated the voters who got him into office in the first place. And maybe it will put the fear of God, so to speak, into the Democratic Party, just a little.

  • @Rozin: A facebook friend sent this link on why no October surprises. Basic premise–Romney is uber boring, Obama is one “surprise” after another, and we are all tired.

    http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/11/02/why-was-there-no-october-surprise/

  • “Maybe so, but I think it’s a pretty significant statement. If Obama loses downstate (likely) AND the Chicago suburbs (possible) to Romney, and wins Illinois only or primarily on the strength of Cook County it will be a very strong indicator of how badly he has alienated the voters who got him into office in the first place. And maybe it will put the fear of God, so to speak, into the Democratic Party, just a little.”

    Agreed Elaine!

  • DJ: “A facebook friend sent this link on why no October surprises. Basic premise–Romney is uber boring, Obama is one “surprise” after another, and we are all tired.”

    Sorry, that is not convincing. The only thing I can see that would remotely make sense is that the Obama campaign thought they had the race won by a mile. Or that they were silly enough to think Allred was going to do magic for them. Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t think they are worried if we are tired. The Leftists are never tired about winning.

  • I’m not american, so would someone care to explain why Obama appears as the winner in Vermont even though both candidates have a 0% ?

  • It’s a combination of exit polls and just common sense. Vermont is a very liberal state, and there is no expectation that Romney can win there. The opposite is true in states like Kentucky and Indiana, where Romney is certain to win.

  • Thank you 🙂 Though I would’ve expect them to wait until they had atleast some sort of percentage.

  • (Don’s wife Cathy here): Laura, the issue of states being called for one or the other candidate VERY early was even worse in past years, f.ex. the one fellow who congratulated “President” Kerry in 2004 based on exit polls, the networks calling Florida for Gore and then having to retract that call in 2000, and the famous 1948 “Dewey Defeats Truman!” newspaper headline, proudly brandished by President Truman after he won reelection.

  • There were parking places at the precinct, as always, but steady with cars entering and exiting the horseshoe of my old elementary school.
    The ‘in’ table of four said they’ve never been so busy, although there was no line for 2 pg. paper ballot to put into electronic reader.
    I had occasion to drive by three times today, finding the scene the same. What was amazing to me was that there were only two people holding a sign for someone running for the Massachusetts House. Usually the street is lined for local elections.
    51% Romney – 47% O just ran by on the NECN reporting at the bottom of the screen.
    54% Warren – 46% Scott Brown w/0% reporting.
    … and electoral count is Romney 88 and O 64.
    Changed to 51 R – 48 O just now with no amount in percent reporting.
    Comment made that R will lose this state.

  • Well Don, it definitely ain’t going to be 1980 all over again….

  • “Well Don, it definitely ain’t going to be 1980 all over again”

    No Elaine, much to my regret and surprise it is not.

  • Donald, this should be no surprise. There are too many liberals in this country. Academia / public school has been propagandizing students for 40+ years in liberal leftism. Obama may very well win. More paths to a Romney victory are being closed. But I am a pessimist by nature.

  • Did my voting in NY. ’bout ready to hit the sack. Four AM is my rise and shine time. I am going off to bed with Romney slightly in the lead but my guess is the fairy tale will be over upon my rising and we will have four more years of the big O.

    Sorry Don, I hope my pessimism is unfounded.

  • Barone’s most recent article nails it. The country is splitting in two. Unfortunately for us the other side is not content to run their half. They want to expunge our half too. The media is giving the Dems at least a 5 point spot in elections I would estimate. That’s simply too much to give away and win consistently. The Repubs acting like Dem lites has been a big issue and not knocking down Leftist tripe is also a big problem. Even those few times they do that in a halfhearted fashion it still knocks the Left back on their heels. How Scott Brown and Connie Mack can lose with Obamacare every bit the issue today it was in 2010 is unsettling. Maybe close observers of those campaigns can explain what happened and why they couldn’t put weak or loony Dems on defense better

  • MA:
    Barney Frank House Dist. #4 is replaced by Joe Kennedy of the MA family, it seems.
    29% of precincts show Scott Brown 48% to Warren 52%.
    Comment that the strength for EW is the D tie to O.
    Also, she had college age foot soldiers with clip boards around the neighborhoods for the past few weekends. I noticed several while voting this a.m. when young people are not usually sighted.

  • Looking at the map from an immigration perspective, it seems clear that the unconstitutional slight of hand called Defered Action for Child Arrivals (DACA) had the desired effect.

    I take back something I wrote last night. Demographics matter and pretending to grant amnesty derived big benefits to the Obama campaign.

    It isn’t right to use government agencies as extensions of political parties but the GOp decided not to fight the Administration over unconstitutional Executive Orders. This is part of the explanation for this electoral map.

  • Suppose Obama wins and then all hell breaks loose over Benghazi… could we be looking at the second coming of Nixon’s 2nd term?

  • Obama holds a slim lead in Florida, with two heavily democratic districts yet to count the majority of their votes cast. The rest of the state has pretty much been counted.

    If there is a miracle, tonight, Romney needs it.

    It doesn’t look good, but if Obama wins Florida, which is pointing that way even in best case scenarios for Romney, the election is over.

    Over.

    Game over.

  • Looking like pretty much the only remaining good scenario for Romney is sweeping OH, VA, FL and CO. Some of those are looking difficult, though.

    Edging more towards depressing than a nail biter.

  • G Veg

    You are right but there is nothing that speaks for optimism in these results. A majority of Americans are unhappy with the direction of the country and know we are headed for fiscal calamity. They see religious and personal freedom on the decline. However they voted just like Greeks and French to not only continue the unsustainable gravy train but increase it. Yes the Repubs are feckless and Romney has never been a good politician. But most of the voters saw Romney and Ryan had a plan to fix things but they didn’t care. They saw Obama and Biden were angry and petulant and in Biden’s case loony and they didn’t care. The voters have shown themselves to be more feckless than the Repubs, no mean feat.

  • I see the optimism of a week ago vanishing.

  • What’s happening is what I feared – the “fix was in” – this is being stolen. This explains why the media came up with all those polls to give cover for the fraud taking place. This is what Putin and Chavez did in their nations. God help this poor country!

  • “Suppose Obama wins and then all hell breaks loose over Benghazi… could we be looking at the second coming of Nixon’s 2nd term?”

    The Dems controlled the House and the Senate and had the media behind them in 1973. The Admin will stonewall and the media will celebrate and move on to making Catholic hospitals perform abortions. Bye bye Supreme Court. We are looking at Jimmy Carter’s third term and Hugo Chavez’s first (here).

  • Looks my lovely (hopefully soon to be former) home state just approved of gay marriage. It’s 51-49 favor so far.

    I’m moving to Texas.

  • You can’t escape liberals in Texas. Or anywhere. The infestation is a disease like cancer that keeps growing and growing. I think Siobhan is right. Indeed, perhaps this country needs to be punished with another 4 years of Obama, persecution of the Church, and military defeats. Sodomy marriage and vivisection of the unborn! What a depraved society we are!

  • Come on down, Paul. We’re happy to have you.

  • It’s official: the deciding voting block isn’t women or Latinos. It’s morons.

  • So where are all these “values” voters among the non-whites, those who care about the separation between Church and State, original intentions of the Founding Fathers and so on? I include Asians among them. it is demonstrably true that only whites care to a large extent for such things, all other groups put for their class and tribal interests first and foremost. Demographics count. And next time don’t be too quick to jump on people like Ron Paul merely to appease phantom voters.

  • Siobham says What’s happening is what I feared – the “fix was in” – this is being stolen. ”

    It was already stolen years ago. PWP is right. You can’t have an entire generation grow up with lies and false history and expect them to wake up at election time and see through the cant. Take a look at the UK. Take a look at our inner cities. People who are ignorant or despairing will ride the death spiral all the way down. And Mr Zummo PWP is also right about Texas. Once the SCOTUS gears up they, in combination with the Fed alphabet soup, will deconstruct every state that voted Repub. Obamacare, EPA, DOE etc etc. If you were a senior citizen with ten years to go you might see it through in TX. Otherwise the only remedy will be to get rich. This is a corrupt govt and society so money will buy you protection.

  • Paul,

    Houston baby, you don’t want to go to Yankee city like Dallas, or those libs in Austin!

  • It’s looking a little better in Florida.

    IF we lose the popular vote, but the margin is less thatn 1/2%, there’s an automatic recount.

    That means all those dead people’s votes and multiple voters will be discounted and Romney may just win it!

  • If Obama wins, there is one way it could be a blessing in disguise: the “fiscal cliff” and all the economic and military crises of the next 4 years, not to mention the full impact of Obamacare taxes, will take place on his watch instead of Romney’s, and he and the Democratic Party will have to wear the jacket for them. Come to think of it, wasn’t Obamacare passed back when Obama claimed he didn’t mind being only a one-term president?

  • This is getting really ugly. Obama seems to have solid leads in CO and OH, have pulled ahead in WI and be closing on a near tie in VA and FL. It’s not 2008 by any stretch, but it’s not good.

  • If Obama wins, he’ll be the worst two-term president ever, right off the bat.

  • Darwin,

    I don’t see that in Ohio and Fox News called Wisconsin for Obama about an hour ago or so.

  • I’ve been primarily online: RCP and the Google election center (which is really good — allows you to click in and see by county). Up until a few minutes ago Romney was ahead in counted votes in WI, but I think that was mostly a function of which counties had reported.

  • They preferred Barabbas over Christ.
    They would rather have the murderer than the healer.
    If this goes O we very well are living in a chastisement of our own doing. Forty years of dishonor to Life.
    We won’t stop working for justice in the name of the unborn.
    Our fight continues.

    Earlier today I made some poor assumptions, and was eager to see a righteous outcome.
    Please forgive me.
    The foot of the Cross is going to be our home for many years. The good news is that Easter Sunday follows the Good Friday. If a miracle is needed for R to pull this out, then Father Almighty grant one for the sake of the womb dwellers.

  • What Philip said – did anyone notice that today being Tuesday is the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Holy Rosary?

    Barabbas: Bar-Abbas. Son of the father in Aramaic. The crowd preferred the son of their father the devil over the son of God. Lesson for our times. Democracy in action: Crucifige Eum! Crucifige Eum! I am now going to bed and leaving this mess in God’s hands where it belongs.

  • And Fox calls it for Obama. This is a bad night.

  • Darwin’s right, it’s a bad night.

    What now, after praying of course?

  • “If Obama wins, there is one way it could be a blessing in disguise: the “fiscal cliff” and all the economic and military crises of the next 4 years, not to mention the full impact of Obamacare taxes, will take place on his watch instead of Romney’s, and he and the Democratic Party will have to wear the jacket for them.”

    True Elaine. I expect the 2014 mid-terms to be good for the GOP and 2016, when I suspect Rubio might be the standard bearer, might well cause us to forget tonight. However the next four years will not be amusing as we see how bad an Obama second term, after a disastrous first term, is.

  • @Tito: go to bed. Tomorrow’s a new day.

  • “Darwin’s right, it’s a bad night.

    What now, after praying of course?”

    Thinking, planning and acting to limit the harm that Obama can do in the next four years.

  • Donald,

    That’s true, maybe play hard-ball on the fiscal cliff?

    Religious freedom means nothing in this country, catacombs as Madrid is saying?

  • “catacombs as Madrid is saying?”

    Only if our adversaries end up in the catacombs Tito! Tonight we have lost a battle but not the war. All of this will look clearer with a bit of sleep and time for thought.

  • …meaning get a good sleep tonight, and leave this in Gods hands.

  • Time to let go of the lie that America is basically center-right. If squishy Romney can’t even win against the incompetent in the WH, who can? Somewhere along the way America took a left turn, and it’s hiding behind the self-reported “I’m a moderate” BS.

  • Our great consolation is that we trust in God, not in man.

    Good night everyone, tomorrow’s another day. Let the culture of death celebrate their victory, we will celebrate eternity!

  • Time to let go of the lie that America is basically center-right.

    OTOH, GOP retains House majority, with possible pickups. So this ain’t exactly a center-left country.

  • Whew, wonder where the millions of prayers are headed.

  • Susana Martinez 2016

  • Romney and Ryan looked so confident and everyone associated with them were so sure of victory. The country with the rise of the Tea Party and after the 2010 elections did take a right turn and that momentum should have carried Romney to victory. I just feel that something is very, very wrong here with this election. I’m sure Michael Barone is sitting down right now wondering how he got it so wrong and how the hard numbers and this vote just don’t add up. Another thing, here’s a recent statement from Valerie Jarret that should alarm us about what is coming:

    “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.” Pray for yourselves and all you love. It’s gonna get very bad.

  • “If squishy Romney can’t even win against the incompetent in the WH, who can?”

    Well, if even a “squishy” GOP candidate came thisclose to beating Obama, and the GOP has expanded its gains in the House despite self-destructing in several critical Senate races, imagine what could a truly top-rate GOP ticket could have done. Maybe now that the GOP has gotten Romney out of its system the next tier of candidates (Rubio, Martinez, Jindal, Ryan again perhaps, maybe even Rand Paul) could stand a better chance in 2016.

  • I can’t sleep. I tried but I just don’t understand. How can so many good people, people whom I love and respect, be so startlingly wrong?

    America is dying. That is the reality and, like the folks who lived through the dying of other civilizations, all we can do is impotently rage. So it was as the Roman Republic died, swept quickly away by hedonism and sloth. So it was as the British Empire breathed her last.

    There will be an “America” for my grandchildren in the sense that there will be territorial integrity and a government to represent it but it will have no more meaning that Canada or Mexico. The 21st Century belongs to the East, not the West.

    I didn’t want to believe this truth. I believed that there was an America to fight for but she is dead. We took her pulse tonight and it is time to accept what is clearly true.

    What the do we do?

    We cannot breathe life into this corpse. All we can do is go on.

    How my friends? How do we live without her?

    God, there is bile in my throat.

  • Imagine if Obama softens on hhs mandate, misguided catholics will fall deeper into their misguidance.

  • Last I looked, Romney was still ahead by 23,000 votes in the overall national popular vote. He could still win Virginia and Florida and could also still “win” the popular vote. I know that doesn’t change the outcome, but it does provide some consolation. For one thing, it means the ENTIRE country hasn’t gone barking mad! It might also mean that a lot of those popular votes came from people like me, Don and Paul — red people living in blue states, whose votes weren’t enough to change the outcome but did make the margin of victory a bit narrower than it would otherwise have been. I suppose if we really want our votes to count we should all move to Ohio or Florida before the next election!

  • “True Elaine. I expect the 2014 mid-terms to be good for the GOP and 2016, when I suspect Rubio might be the standard bearer, might well cause us to forget tonight. However the next four years will not be amusing as we see how bad an Obama second term, after a disastrous first term, is.”

    Actually, I think either JIndal, Kasich (who happens to be a personal friend of my brother-in-law, they sat on the board of directors at Invacare), or Walker stand a better chance of being the standard bearer in 2016 than Rubio. All three are solid governors (especially Jindal and Walker) and proven leaders whereas Rubio hasn’t proven himself as a leader…yet.

  • Oh, by the way, I think we can safely say Michael Barone was wrong about his predicting a Romney elctoral college landslide.

  • I shouldn’t have said that about misguided Catholics I’m sorry. God can cut through any obstacle as he is great indeed

  • For all of this mess…I do not blame Mitt Romney. Romney was not my first choice for the GOP candidate, but I do not fault him or Paul Ryan for the loss. I don’t think anyone could have beaten Obumbler. Not Ron Paul, not Rick Santorum, not Newt Gingrich.

    Eighty years ago, Franklin Roosevelt won the Presidency and the electorate blamed the GOP for the Great Depression even though FDR made it worse..and left the country badly unprepared for World War II. FDR was carried out of office feet first. FDR was the first US dictator.

    Look at my pitiful Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Once again, the city of Philadelphia, its suburbs, and Allegheny County carry the Commonwealth for the Democrat Party…and this with a GOP governor, a GOP senator, and a GOP controlled state legislature. Ohio did the same thing as Pennsylvania.

    I wonder if the South will rise up against the coming onslaught of awful politics that will emanate from Washington.

    I blame the country itself. The USA has gone soft, at least a majority of the voting public has done so. Young people get their news from Comedy Central. Single women care about abortion and free birth control. Latinos seem to despise the GOP. Abortion was made the law of the land nearly 40 years ago and finally, this year, the Catholic bishops speak up against government policy. Well, gentlemen, it was too little, too late. The president can party down with entertainers and that makes him cool. Who cares about Bengazi, the $6 trillion increase in the national debt, the death panels, the coming financial cliff…..

    I fear this country will destroy itself. I am considering moving to Australia, Chile or Poland. Obumbler and company will NOT ruin my sons’ lives.

  • Don’t apologize for speaking the truth. Our fellow Catholics have segmented their lives, reserving for God what costs them nothing and accepting Man’s precepts for all else.

    They vote for a man who believes late-term abortions are a Right, religious liberty a concession from the State, and government control of resources the only way to structure an economy. So long as his tyranny is “soft” they will go like lambs led to slaughter.

  • Initially, after the coffee and the semblance of Romney in the lead, Chas and I after our first couple of rum and cokes, started to watch the rise of Obama’s numbers – the last R & C was a commiseration.
    We feel for you folks in the USA, and we feel for the world – the leading world power and economy will remain a socialist state, spending all the money they don’t have, and join PIIGS – unless thers is a major U turn in policy.
    The saving grace for O’Bumbler could be the coming on stream of the recently discovered oil and gas reserves. If O’Bumbler changes his policy to allow “Drill baby,Drill”, then the Dem dynasty could reap an undeserved benefit.
    Don’t despair – “spera in Deo.” There will be life after Obama.

  • I told you Obama would win. I know Don the Kiwi says don’t despair, but the Republic is over. There will be persecution of the Church. Mark my words.

  • Look on the bright side. They retain their hope of worldly happiness. If it went the other way, your tolerant, progressive friends and relatives (who have no concern for the reward of eternal life) would be suicidal.

    I have been in crisis mode for four-plus years. This means apocalyptic investing, and plan possible relocation to a red state or Canada/Chile.

    You can manage risk. Uncertainty is a much tougher problem. If Mitt had won, I would have become highly uncertain as to my courses of action.

    Upcoming: the fiscal cliff; Obamacare wrecking health care and killing employment; four more years of consistent, “unexpected” bad economic news; and, four years of telling your tolerant, progressive friends and relatives, “I told you so.”

    Of course, the Lord, in His Infinite Wisdom, doesn’t answer all our prayers. I have been inundated with unmerited blessings and graces. Praise the Lord.

  • T Shaw, the Lord answers all prayer. Sometimes he says no.

  • Maybe it’s a separation of wheat from chaff, and forebearance from the opposite temptations. Somewhere, yesterday, I read ‘lights kept under bushels’.

Minnesota Game Changer?

Monday, November 5, AD 2012

George Will, not a fan of Romney, yesterday predicted a Romney landslide.  Go here to view the video. Will brought up a point in regard to Minnesota that I have failed to consider.  Marriage is on the ballot there.  The attempt to pass an amendment banning same sex marriage, according to the most recent poll,  is ahead by one, 48-47 according to the latest Star Tribune poll.  The amendment needs to reach 50 to pass.  The Star Tribune tends to underestimate conservative and Republican strength, and historically amendments banning same sex marriage do several points better on election day than the polls indicate. This could bring out enough pro-Romney voters to put Minnesota into the Republican column for President for the first time in four decades.  If it does, Romney, assuming he wins Virginia, Florida and Colorado,  only needs New Hampshire, Iowa or Nevada to be the next president.  Interesting.

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  • Betting is legal here, so I accepted a bet from my physician for me to bet on Romney and separately I bet with PADDY POWERS on Romney – this morning they already paid out on Obama backers which to me is insane. My argument all along is the Holy Spirit factor. If we rolled back ISLAM at Lepanto, and JP 11 cracked the iron Curtain, aided by FATIMA’s rosary and sacrifice appeal, we will win tomorrow. The Coalition of Catholic-Evangelical and others around the First Amendment HHS Mandate, and against the Obama anti-NATURAL LAW record, apart from his economy gambling, I see the landslide that the famous Las Vegas odds-maker predicted, he was right ahead of time in 2010.

  • Your not alone in your thinking.
    Holy Spirit sweep.

  • Thanks Philip. I have said that ever since the Evangelicals and others joined on the HHS Mandate. Next task, if R-R win is to convert the nation and Congress to a closer match-up with the totally Consistent Ethic of Life for every aspect of the economy and perhaps a PEACE ACADEMY since the military ones are not getting the PEACE of the Natural LAW accomplished since the war to end all wars -WWI ended and we have the world at war ever since.

  • With God all things are possible.
    Todays local newspaper had a full pg. ad with Rev. Billy Graham. Great touch since this paper is so left.

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  • I clicked on the link, thinking “No way, that’s too good to be true!” And it is indeed. I think you misunderstand the amendment- it defines marriage as being between a man and a woman. Because it’s an amendment it needs at least 50% to vote in favor, so, for example, a 49-47% “win” is no win at all. This poll is claiming that opponents of the amendment are at 52% currently.
    However, I don’t believe anything from PPP, so I have hope for tomorrow.

  • Thank you Steve for correcting my error. However, a Star Tribune poll shows poll proponents ahead by one, 48-47.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/176121921.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y&refer=y

    Historically such amendments do several points better than the polls indicate. Your instincts regarding PPP are absolutely correct!

    I have amended the post to reflect your correction.

  • Off topic but VERY interesting news regarding another important referendum: Ted Kennedy’s widow, Victoria Reggie Kennedy, has spoken out AGAINST legalising doctor-assisted suicide in Massachusetts:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2012/11/ted-kennedys-widow-comes-out-against-euthanasia-in-massachusetts/

    Although I have been down with a stomach bug of some kind all day long, I’m going to get to the polls tomorrow even if I have to bring a barf bag along. Not so much because of the presidential race — this is, after all, Illinois and we all know who’s going to win it even if by not as much as last time — but because the Democratic candidate for Congress in my new district wrote a letter to the editor some years ago advocating legalization of assisted suicide, and was de-hired (he was supposed to start working there shortly afterward, but never did) from a Catholic hospital medical group as a result. (He’s also, of course, pro-choice on abortion.) Our new district was also specifically gerrymandered to favor Democrats and I can think of no better rebuke to the Democratic powers that be in IL than to elect a Republican congressman in spite of it.

  • “Although I have been down with a stomach bug of some kind all day long, I’m going to get to the polls tomorrow even if I have to bring a barf bag along”

    That’s the spirit Elaine. I’d vote tomorrow if I had to be carried in on a stretcher!

  • If Minnesota votes in favor of the marriage amendment, how can it fall short of 50%? Is there another choice on the ballot besides “yes” and “no”, like “maybe” or “none of the above”?

Laughable Polls

Monday, November 5, AD 2012

CNN gave us a fine example of why the polls this year are largely worthless.  The poll shows a tied national race at 49-49.  This is a 3 point improvement for Romney over the last national poll they took.  Then you dig into the internals of the poll.  They sampled 41% Democrats and 30% Republicans.  Yep, in a year when almost all the evidence points to a parity in party turnout or a slight Republican advantage, the best they could manage after giving Obama an eleven point advantage was a tie for the Southside Messiah!

The Czar at Gormogons has a straight forward explanation as to why most of the polls this year are showing a huge oversampling of Dems:

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  • Interesting story from NPR (a tainted source, I know) claims that ALL polls are asking the wrong question & that “Who do you think will win?” is a far better predictor:
    http://www.npr.org/2012/11/03/164242319/for-whom-will-you-vote-may-be-wrong-question

  • President Carter would have found that methodolgy comforting in 1980. The question basically takes advantage of low information voters who parrot the slant the Mainstream Media has been peddling.

  • Or one can consult the Redskins.

    As I mentioned in another post, unlike inanimate objects, people will react differently once you tell them some factor, such as polls or some event, is a predictor of something important to them. The effect is amplified when there is a public or social presentation aspect to it. (People act differently if they feel they are being observed and evaluated.) And by people I don’t simply mean the ones being measured but also the ones doing the testing. Now that polling has attained such perceived importance we see on one side increased attempts to manipulate the results and on the other greater and greater selection effects.

    While such methods as (electoral) models are more immune to selection effects they are not immune to manipulation if the model is seen as an oracle. If say a measure of unemployment is a major factor in the model, then attempts will be made to manipulate the numbers to affect the result,

    All manner of manipulations generally require controlled information to conceal ithem. This is why the Leftist places such importance on establishing a government controlled media. Even a freely partisan press is better than that since opinion will be disseminated in approximately the proportion of its adherents and each side can present its “story”.

  • Thanks for the link! I should point out that most of the polling information isn’t even technically fighting the last war (although I wish I’d thought to use that phrase!)… they’re fighting 2008, not 2010! Appreciate your write up; you definitely have it!

  • …claims that ALL polls are asking the wrong question & that “Who do you think will win?” is a far better predictor

    *laughs* I bet they do… especially when there have been assaults on people who support conservative views too openly (such as “don’t steal my Romney/Ryan sign”) and conservatives are traditionally much quieter about what they believe.

  • This parade of worthless, skewed polls worries me– could it be that the
    president’s court eunuchs in the media are preparing cover for massive
    voter fraud? If the polls were anything like accurate, such fraud would be
    harder to explain away or ignore.

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  • Don

    Explaining my election rationale, I am too often accused of being the optimist, so thanks for this post and the supplied link. I have tried to talk a few friends off the ledge, and this post seems to have helped.

  • Dave, I do not think by the end of the evening tomorrow it will be any one on our side who needs to be talked off a ledge!

Pennsylvania Bishops Speak Out

Sunday, November 4, AD 2012

On All Saints Day, the bishops of Pennsylania released a statement on the upcoming elections.  Here is the text:

Each year on this day the Catholic Church celebrates “All Saints Day.”  This solemnity remembers those who have fulfilled their earthly vocation and now enjoy eternal happiness in the presence of God.  These saints may be unnamed, but they certainly are not unknown.  Their lives are characterized by steadfast faith and charitable works.  They exemplify what it means to love God and love one’s neighbor.

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  • Nice letter. The Bishops are to be commended. Now let them publicly excommunicate the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage politicians. And yes, with a few exceptions those politicians are Democrat. It is the Democratic Party which is threatening this “democracy” just as it did in the 19th century: today’s abortion is yesterday’s slavery.

  • Wow, really good. As I read this part (wholeheartedly agreeing), I couldn’t help but to think how far we have come. Can you imagine the USCCB/NCCB or any other other association of bishops in the US writing something so sound and so thoroughly Catholic and insightful thirty to forty years ago? We’ve some a long way thanks to the leadership of our last two popes. Deo Gratias.

    Today Catholics face a growing and deeply troubling effort that seeks to extend the reach of government into every aspect of social life. In turn, this generates a demand for exclusive allegiance of individuals and groups to the requirements of the State. This demand denies the primacy of associations that exist prior to the State, such as the family, church or synagogue, and even fraternal and charitable agencies. These groups enjoy a priority both chronologically, in terms of historical development, and practically, inasmuch as they engage the vast majority of activity in our everyday lives.

    As Christians we do owe an appropriate loyalty to the State. We strive to maintain good relations with civil authority. But our primary allegiance must always be to God and to God alone.

  • Good. (The ending could be larger font and bolded for greater impact on attention spans of the anxious.)
    In the Diocese of Springfield, MA, our Bishop wrote a letter to exhort a No vote on Question 2, which asks whether seconal assisted suicide would be something one with a ‘six months to live’ prognosis would find desirable.

    I hope such guiding help for all doesn’t end with the election.

  • Lots and lots and lots of prayers are needed for the next 48 hours and another 24 after that asking for God, Our Father, to sear the consciences of Catholics so that they vote to preserve our Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion in such numbers that the enemy of God can not cheat and steal our Constitutional Rights given to us by our Founding Fathers.

  • I believe it not an exaggeration to say that this battle of worldviews, ideals and beliefs is one of historic proportion. Cardinal Dolan said of the H.H.S. Mandate ; “We did not bring this fight however we will not run from it.”
    The Bishops letters being proclaimed around the parishes this day is a call to HEARTS.
    A formed conscience, that quiet voice inflaming our hearts is our strength and courage to stand fast and defend Liberty.
    Tuesday is landing day on the beachhead.
    Tuesday is our day to reclaim what was given away four years ago.
    Tuesday is our charge with millions of holy souls at our side. Our charge for freedom.

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  • Election results 2012. Catholic Church – 0. Democrat Party – 1.

Hell Freezes Over: Newsday Endorses Romney

Sunday, November 4, AD 2012

 

 

Few things shock me in the political realm, but this one did.  Quite a few newspapers that endorsed Obama in 2008 are backing Romney this year, but I never expected Newsday to be among them.  Newsday has always been the publication for those New Yorkers who find the New York Times to be too conservative.  Here is the beginning of the endorsement:

Had Barack Obama done the job of president with the same passion and vision he displayed in seeking it, he would likely deserve another term. He did not.

Against this we must weigh Mitt Romney, an imperfect candidate but one who has a special track record too. From his creation of a vast personal fortune to his successful stewardship of the threatened Salt Lake City Olympics to his governing of Massachusetts, Romney’s life is a tale of success after success, many of them achieved in difficult circumstances.

Romney’s potential to put America back to work earns him our endorsement.

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  • To the obamaites…..And the truth shall set you free.

    It’s about time. Wake up and smell direction.

  • Don, I live on Long Island, and believe me, this is BIG news! This paper is such a leftist, anti-catholic rag, and the only thing it’s good for is for fish wrap or when I re-pot my plants. Hopefully, this will make a difference on election day, but unfortunately, New York state has no chance of going to Romney, especially because of NYC. I just wish the states electoral votes could be divided up more evenly so the cities don’t dominate. I’m sure that if we cut off NYC, the rest of the state could turn red. Same, with Pennsylvania, Illinois, Nevada, etc. The democrats are given an unfair advantage right from the start because of the corrupt cities.

  • I am sure this will have significant influence with their 21 moderate subscribers.

  • It is more of a sign Karl of discontent on the Left with Obama, and a good harbinger for Tuesday.

  • The bad harbinger is Rasmussen who would have to be very wrong if Romney is to win comfortably. Also the Senate does not look particularly good. A Romney win with Harry as Majority Leader would be very bad news for the country and for Romney.

  • I don’t think that Rasmussen has been able to work the kinks out of his polling operations as a result of Sandy, and is being cautious. It will be interesting to see what his poll says tomorrow. All of the national polls seem to be hedging their bets and calling the race a tie.

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  • I believe the pollster from Battleground had a good explanation of the polls.

    They poll everyone, but are guessing who shows up. The toplines look good for Obama, but the internals point to a big Romney win. Basically, Republican turnout will be high, Democratic turnout may or may not be.

    This is why Gallup RV shows Obama leading, but Gallup LV points to a comfortable Romney win.

    His poll had Obama up 49-48, but he predicted a 53-47 Romney win.

  • Jim says “I believe the pollster from Battleground had a good explanation of the polls.”

    He doesn’t explain Rasmussen who uses Likely Voters. Also a Hurricane Sandy effect only depresses popular vote totals on the Obama side (but not electoral votes). That would seem to indicate Rasmussen would be slightly underpredicting Obama percentages unless he is making some statistical correction guess.

  • Holy Cow!

    I’ve lived (except military years) on LI since 1960. Newsday is a 100% liberal rag.

    A few years ago, I stopped telling myself, “Now, I’ve seen everything.”

    But, this comes really close.

    Anyhow, O will take NY easily. The liberals here are non compos mentis.

  • Thanks for reporting such hopeful news. I have been wondering how so many in our country could lose their minds and go blind at the same time. Perhaps the Newsday endorsement will help clear the vision of others too. I am so sick of the insanity, especially the War on Women rant, which I just posted on:

    http://www.pattimaguirearmstrong.com/2012/11/prisoners-of-war.html

Ten Reasons to Vote Against Obama

Sunday, November 4, AD 2012

 

 

Regular readers of TAC can probably recite most of the reasons, given in no particular order below, by heart, but I think this recapitulation prior to Tuesday is a useful exercise for casual or new readers of the blog:

1.  Most Pro-abortion President in our Nation’s History-Obama opposes any restriction on the sacred rite  right to abortion.  That alone is enough to make him unacceptable to anyone who cherishes the protection of innocent human life.

2.  Debt-Obama, in four short years, has run up almost a third of our national debt.  He is careening us to national bankruptcy.

3.  Lousy Economy-Obama has given us the worst economic recovery in the post World War history of America, a recovery where 23,000,000 Americans are unable to find work.

4.  Obamacare-The major initiative of the Obama administration, Obama has given us a national healthcare plan which will drive up costs, vastly increase the control of the government over our daily lives and add to the “entitlement” spending which is the main factor in our out of control Federal spending.

5.  HHS Mandate-For the crassest of short-term political gain, Obama decided to give “free” contraception to women, religious liberties of those who oppose it be damned.

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  • Many of these were true for years ago. The fact that some “Catholics” had a hand in God’s election is a sad commentary on the state of the Roman Catholic Church in America.

  • I agree Sister! I don’t know how Catholics could vote for a man who believed that babies who survived abortions should be left to die. People were blinded by the glitz and glamour of the Obama campaign in 2008. The media failed to do its job in vetting the man. They ignored his connections to radicals like Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright as well as to Communist Frank Marshall Davis.

    We’ve had four years of his failed presidency. I pray that Americans wake up to reality and vote him out before our country is transformed to something our Founding Fathers would decry.

  • Another reasons:

    1) Obama promissed to close Guatanamo. He did not close it and now he kills innocents with drones to avoid bring terrorists to Guatanamo.

    2) Obama did not miss an opportunity to glorify Islam;

    3) Fast and furious;

    4) Sandra Bluke;

    5) Defense of Planned Parenthood;

    6) Protection of Iran instead of Israel;

    7) Leading from behind (trust in the UN);

  • Reasons LIBERALS should vote against Pres Obama (or at least stay home):

    1.) Obamacare: he was ready to drop any health-care from his agenda until forced to by Pelosi et al., leaving them to do the heavy lifting.

    2.) the “most transparent administration in history” has set new records for denied FOIA requests and over-classifying documents.
    We’ll leave aside the Nixonian claim of executive privilege in the Holder case.

    3.) Special interests — lobbyists have easier access to the President than his cabinet, not to mention more influence.

    4.) He has FAR outdone Pres. Bush in shredding the ill of Rights in the name of the War on Terror.

    5.) Illeg — I mean undocumented workers. Deportations have soared under this administration.

    Your first (or 3rd, or 8th) time shouldn’t be with someone who won’t respect you in the morning.

  • 10. “Adoration is the daughter of ignorance.” Benjamin Franklin

    They proved they aren’t racists in 2008. They’re going to prove they have no functioning gray matter in 2012.

  • T. Shaw, I hope you and yours are all fine. I don’t know where you are in NY, but the pictures from Staten Island and lower Manhattan are terrible.

  • Many people who will continue to vote for Obama are those who attached their egos to this guy and are enslaved to their political ideology. Because of their pride, they won’t admit that they were taken it. Believe me, I work with people like this. Over-educated liberals with many degrees after their names who think they are the best and the brightest the world has to offer, and turn their noses down on conservatives who can’t possibly be right.

  • “Because of their pride, they won’t admit they were taken in.”

    Pride, lust, envy, anger, sloth, greed (for other people’s money) – the Dems have the 7 deadlies just about covered, don’t they?

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  • Speaking of reason #10:

  • As to Obama’s war with the Catholic Church, Obama is an Alinsyite par excellence. And the fact that Saul Alinsky’s influence on the Church in the U.S. is significant, albeit little known, makes Obama a much more dangerous enemy than many think.

  • Donna V., Thank you for your concern. Our friends in the Rockaways and Staten Island, and some other NYC areas are still in the cold and dark and cold.

    Our most excellent host, Mac also, from another comment, yesterday.

    “Thanks for the concern, Mac.

    “By the Grace of God and the constant intercessions of the Blessed Virgin Mary, our home was not materially damaged and the electricity was back by Thursday night.

    “Ma and Pa Shaw missed this one.

    “Our US Army son was TDY at Fort Leavenworth, KS for a week (!) from Japan. We needed to see him there, or wait another year-plus. We flew to KC, MO at 0600 hours on Sunday last. Blew back in last night with minimal adventure, except the NYC yellow taxi ride . . .

    “Our youngest son rode out the storm in the dark in the basement. We spoke to him Monday evening. He said it was gruesome.

    “Mama needed to see her boy.”

    We heard 7:30 AM Mass in Our Lady of Victory Church, with no heat or light.

    May the Divine Assistance be always with us.

  • I’ll say Amen to your prayer for us, T. Shaw. Was relieved that you sort of dodged another bullet. Hope the Thursday NorEaster storm finds people who are able to keep warm and dry with some food and water.

    Reason #~?: In addition to all of the above, the oppressive-ness of living through the four year insidious thing between the media and the administration blurring and twisting facts, figures, and events. Downfall of journalism and civility.

  • More:
    The Turtle and the Hare version of a cartoon at American Thinker, and some writing on the character of incumbent.

    One way or the other after tomorrow, I’ll visit the bookstore to find something for doing more than edit, copy and paste in comments starting with the below HTML’s.

  • Good Night …

    I’m from Brazil. I wrote in my blog a long two-part article on the American Elections. Here in Brazil, Obama is like a “fever” I made a translation into english. I hope you have been good …

    Link below:

    http://www.algosolido.wordpress.com

    hugs,
    Eduardo
    São Paulo – Brazil

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  • Saturday…..go back an hour…check!

    Tuesday…….go to polls, select new pres..check!

    F freedom of conscience
    O Obama failure
    R Romney is better choice for America
    W winner on Tuesday is Romney
    A A turn from disaster
    R rescind hhs mandate
    D democracy is not dead.

    In Obama land FORWARD is a major brand.
    His forward is off the cliff into the rocks.
    Following our Lord the maker of Life we move forward. The giver of life breathe new life into the oval office. Forward without cover-ups, lies, dark agendas and oppression.

  • Forgive me if you consider this inappropriate. If so, delete my request but I have no other way of communicating with you.

    Twenty-one years after filing her first annulment petition in 1991, my wife has filed her second petition claiming Total Simulation. I would ask you, if you are so inclined, to pray that God’s will be done.

    I have let the Church know that I will not participate in this case. I have had enough. Its been too long, people have died or gotten nearly senile….

    Thank you. God bless you and your family. Again, if this crosses the line, please forgive me.

  • Thank you. We all need them.

  • “Change you president on Tuesday”

    Yeah, yeah……………Rock ’em, Romney. 🙂

    Then we’ll see the real USA