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Dave Griffey, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Shea

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Dave Griffey at his blog Daffy Thoughts wrote this about the recent comments by Rush Limbaugh regarding sexual morality:

 

What Rush Limbaugh said is here.  What Rush Limbaugh didn’t appear to say in the least was that rape is defensible.  I’m no fan of Rush, and you’ll notice I seldom reference him.  Not that he isn’t right sometimes.  Sure he is.  My favorite reference is the time he observed that the Baby Boomers are the first generation in history that didn’t have to grow up.  Good observation there.

Nonetheless, he’s problematic enough for me to look to other sources for opinion.  Still, with that said, he doesn’t deserve to be falsely accused of something as horrific as defending rape unless it can be demonstrated that he unequivocally said rape is defensible.  What he appears to be saying is what many have said over the years, and what we are witnessing today.

Assume, just for a minute, that Donald Trump is innocent of the accusations being made against him.  And assume, just for a minute, as opposed to what Major Garrett on CBS said yesterday morning, that he doesn’t have to provide evidence to show he is innocent, but that the accusers have to show evidence that he is guilty.  Assuming this basic ‘innocent until proven guilty’ standard that was so crucial in the late 90s, we can say that what Trump has said about and to women is vulgar, despicable, deplorable, wrong, bad, horrific, and anything else to drive home the point.  If, that is, we say there is such as thing as objective morality.

The problem Rush has is that those who are saying this are some of the same who stood idly by 4 years ago when similar things were said about Michelle Bachmann, 8 years ago when worse was said about Sarah Palin, her daughter, her children, and almost 20 years ago when more than one accuser of Bill Clinton was called a liar, a whore for the Republicans, and trailer park trash.  All while we were told that when it comes to sex, nobody cares, there are no real objective morals, it’s up in the air, it isn’t important, and it doesn’t even matter if we lie or commit perjury. As long as you have consent – and even that seemed to depend on who was saying there wasn’t consent involved – everything was fair game.

It’s a fair statement and a fair observation.  Perhaps he didn’t do the best job conveying that view.  But nothing in the complete statement suggests he was defending rape or in any way suggesting rape is not wrong or that there is a problem with being upset about rape.

Mark Shea showed up in the combox and, as usual, was the quiet voice of reason:

What he did was sneer that critics of non-consensual sex are “rape police”. Normal people just call them “police”. Because non-consensual sex is rape. And you defend it. Because you guys are twisting yourselves into pretzels defending the sex predator you have made your Dear Leader. Good job. Continue Reading

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Prepare to Be Assimilated

 

Dave Griffey at Daffy Thoughts views the Clinton campaign e-mails about the Church as not anti-Catholic, but rather a demonstration of the Borg quality of contemporary liberalism:

 

There’s quite a buzz about some of the emails dumped from Hillary’s camp.  Admittedly you have to sift through the news hours to find mention of these.  It isn’t necessarily 24/7 coverage.  Don’t know why, but except for FOX, nobody is really talking about this.  In any event, allow me to point out that these emails are not anti-Catholic.  They’re basic, modern progressive 101.   They’re not trashing Catholics or Catholicism.  They’re trashing that which isn’t liberal.  They’re not saying the Catholic Church sucks.  They’re saying the Catholic Church that doesn’t conform to liberalism sucks.  They’re not saying Catholics are stupid or wicked.  They’re saying Catholics who don’t convert to the liberal gospel are stupid and wicked.  There’s a difference.

The strength of liberalism is that it invites all people into its fold.  Everyone, from all walks of life, all beliefs, all backgrounds.  It merely insists that certain non-negotiables be accepted.   Do that, and you’re accepted.  Steven Colbert is a fine example.  No Catholic is more lauded in our popular culture for his Catholic faith than Colbert.  That’s because everyone assumes he is also quite liberal, and accepts liberalism on the key, important issues.

I realize the double standard.  I get that if this email said the same things about Muslims and was passed along between GOP workers, then this would be 24/7 outrage.  It would be the Fluke Revolution all over again.   I get that.  It is what it is.  If you don’t realize where most of the press is at this point, then there’s not much sense discussing anything else.  But keep the outrage in perspective and keep it accurate.  In the end, it’s all about that progressive model of reality.  These emails are not trashing Catholicism.  They are reminding us of the Romification of liberalism.  Just as Rome said all you needed to do was pay your taxes, keep the peace and bow to Caesar, and then you can keep what gods you want, so the modern Left says the same.  And based on the number of Christians beginning to see the progressive light, I’d say it’s turned out to be an effective bargain.

 

Go here to read the comments.  Perhaps the Borg is not the proper reference.  I am sure that Geek liberals think of themselves as building a benevolent, all encompassing Federation that will take all of humanity and place them at the service of noble leftist causes.  To them, my response will ever be that of Commander Eddington: