Is There Something in the Water in Argentina?

Thursday, October 2, AD 2014

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  • If there is something in the water in Argentina then we know J.Biden N.Pilosi and all of the main street media have been sipping from the same well.

  • Last night I was doing my internet work (an trying to get a non-profit up and running) and could hear a TV show from the kitchen that my wife was watching. The dialog showed a major plot element was a drug smuggling operation into the U.S. by the CIA. Not the first one, there been a lot of these lately. And then there are the other shows on occult powers. Irrationality is all over the place.

    “is there something in the water?” Don, I recall an old Star Trek episode about that very idea. The idea of polymerized water was briefly discussed in scientific circles in the mid-1960’s until research showed that it was just lab contaminants. Still, makes you wonder.

  • “Argentinian opposition politicians have accused the country’s president, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, of being “completely out of touch with reality” after she gave a rambling televised address in which she claimed the US may be behind a plot to overthrow her government and possibly even assassinate her.”
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    It comes with a complete lack of faith in Divine Providence.

  • TomD, 🙂

    “Could what happened down there, to those people, create any unusual danger to this vessel and crew?”

Down Argentine Way

Wednesday, December 4, AD 2013

Lovely.  As the video above indicates the ultimate expression of the pro-abort mentality is a complete hatred for Catholicism.  Ed Morrissey at Hot Air gives us the details:

After watching the video, one might guess that the police were intimidated by the sheer size of the protest.  Clearly, they didn’t want to intervene on behalf of some people who were turning themselves into passive human shields to protect their place of worship. It’s not as if they had been taken by surprise, though, because this happens every year in Argentina for its National Meeting of Women, and a trek to defile the local cathedral is always on the agenda.

It happened last year in October:

Around 500 abortion activists in Posadas hurled insults, spat and threw paint on young Catholics who prayed the Rosary outside the local cathedral and prevented the demonstrators from entering.

The activists convened in the city Oct. 7 for the 27th National Meeting of Women in Argentina.

According to local media, the group march through the city, painting homes and streets with slogans in support of abortion and homosexual marriage as well as anti-Catholic slurs.

Some activists reportedly stripped naked, while others made sexual gestures at the young people standing in prayer outside the Cathedral of Posadas.

CNA also reported on it in 2009, when the route did get detoured away from the local cathedral:

The self-titled “National Meeting of Women,” which recently took place in Tucuman, Argentina, was not the exclusive domain of pro-abortion propaganda as in recent years, but this year was attended by a well-prepared group of women who spoke up in defense of life and against abortion.

In a report issued by the Christian Family Movement, analyst Eduardo Zavalia said the feminists who organized this event were shocked, as they had been accustomed to “doing and saying whatever they wanted and telling others what to say.” This year, he recounted, they were met with a group of women “firm in their values and large enough in numbers to be a majority in most of the workshops.”

“In some workshops, overcome by mere reason, abortion activists resorted to physically removing those who defended life,” the report said.

Even the usual violent and anti-Catholic march organized by abortion supporters was detoured this year in order to avoid passing in front of the cathedral where they usually harassed the faithful.

They weren’t so lucky in 2008:

A video posted on YouTube.com put on full display the ferocity of abortion supporters who were participating in the National Meeting of Women in the Argentinean city of Neuquen last August. It shows them harassing and insulting a group of Catholic young people who were standing outside the Cathedral of Neuquen to keep the church safe from the protests.

The National Meeting of Women is a feminist event that takes place each year to pressure authorities to legalize abortion and to promote reproductive rights and gender ideology.

Financed by anti-life NGOs and supported by the government of Argentinean president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, the meeting brings together pro-abortion, feminist, homosexual and left-wing organizations.

The meeting usually ends with a protest through the streets of the host city, with organizers planning the route to include a stop at the local cathedral. This year, in order to keep protestors from trashing the cathedral grounds, a group of young people from Neuquen stood outside the cathedral to pray and form a barrier against the protestors.

That’s why the Catholics in the diocese were ready to protect their church.  It’s not much of a mystery why the police weren’t prepared to protect them from these attacks, though, as the Kirchner government supports the thugs rather than the peaceful people they attack.

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  • The only things lacking were brown shirts and arm bands.

    Liberalism is fascism with effective PR and 24/7 media lying/tongue baths.

    FYI items I do not lack: Rosary beads and bullets.

    Reportedly, in 19th century NYC, the 69th NY Militia formed at Old St. Partrick’s Cathedral to defend it from such Know-Nothings.

  • All I can think of is Matthew 5:10-12
    10Blessed are those who suffer persecution in the cause of right; the kingdom of heaven is theirs. 11 Blessed are you, when men revile you, and persecute you, and speak all manner of evil against you falsely, because of me. 12 Be glad and light-hearted, for a rich reward awaits you in heaven

  • A modern day Way of the Cross.

  • It’ll keep happening and get worse as long as we continue to be pacifists.

  • Is it a sin to want to punch somebody in the nose? Asking for a friend.

  • Living martyrs. God bless those brave Catholics!

  • Some of the YouTube videos I’ve seen of this have been taken from Argentine
    network news. Typically, the news reports will show long shots of marching
    pro-abortion LGBT crowds, but omit shots of what happens once they reach
    the cathedral. The announcer describes the events as “protesters clashing”…

    It reminds me of the coverage of mob violence against Coptic Christians in
    Egypt, where islamist mobs march into Christian neighborhoods, smashing and
    burning, and western news agencies blandly describe the violence as a “clash
    of protesters”.

  • Heroic. Incredible strength and restraint. If we could stand with them somehow. Put pressure on our media to cover this world wide war on Christians.

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  • I have a dumb question. Religion aside, were not these men being assaulted by these demented women? Where were the Police?! Can you begin to imagine if the situation was reversed??

A New Argentina

Saturday, June 1, AD 2013

Something for the weekend.  A New Argentina from Evita.  From his earliest boyhood the songs from Evita were always a favorite of my son Larry.  He inherited that liking from his parents, my bride and I both enjoying Evita and playing the songs frequently.

A lovely musical, although the reality of Juan and Eva Peron was a disaster for Argentina and continues to be due to their political successors some six decades since Eva Peron departed this vale of tears and almost four decades since Juan Peron joined her.  The Perons mixed populism, corruption, dictatorial methods and a fair amount of style into a heady brew that kept Peron in power from 1944-1955  until he picked a fight with the Catholic Church by attempting to legalize divorce and prostitution.    When he attempted to take over the Catholic schools Pius XII excommunicated him.  Peron was sent packing into exile by a military coup.  His ruinous economic policies had sent Argentina into an economic tailspin and at the time his removal was largely popular.

However, in his absence the style and glamor of his regime helped sustain the Peronist political movement in Argentina and led to his eventual recall and a second attempt to destroy Argentina with a Presidency from 1973-1974 ending with his death at 79.  His third wife, Isabel, 36 years his junior, a former cabaret dancer, succeeded him as President.  The Peronists attempted to bill her as a second Evita, but she lacked the essential ingredient of style, and she was toppled by a military coup in 1976.  Since that time the history of Argentina has been largely a tale of misrule by the military and by the Peronists, an amorphous political group usually, although not always, noted for their  unicorn and fairy dust make believe fiscal and economic policies that bear some resemblance to the policies of the current government in this country.

What John Randolph of Roanoke immortally said about Edward Livingston fits Juan and Eva Peron to a T:

He is a man of splendid abilities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight.

The video at the beginning of this post is from the current broadway revival.  Here is A New Argentina from the original London cast in 1978:

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  • One thing I do not understand about Argentina is that the country does not have a contextually large public sector deficit (see here)

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eclac.org%2Fpublicaciones%2Fxml%2F3%2F48593%2FArgentina.pdf&ei=FtGpUcH-L5Gx4AOg_4DABA&usg=AFQjCNHfEyKax1fnKQpFWXp54aFwf_K8iA&sig2=NeQYRTjrqYVJMjqBlTkw0g&bvm=bv.47244034,d.dmg

    and yet they are printing money like mad (and then falsifying price statistics).

  • A good overview of the mess that is Argentina:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentina-the-next-egypt_b_3087977.html

    The show Journalism For All has been getting sky high ratings exposing the corruption of the Evita Wannabe currently running the place:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/27/program-on-kirchnerite-corruption-exposure-beats-football-in-argentina

  • Argentina had the world’s seventh biggest economy in the year 1900. Not anymore.
    Argentina is populated, for the most part, by descendants of immigrants from Spain and Italy and being overwhelmingly (nominally) Catholic, and they approved gay marriage not long ago. Argentina should not be an economic basket case, but it usually is.

    When Pinochet took over Chile in 1973, ousting the socialist Allende, one of the things he did was to gather up the leftists and liquidate them. I make no excuses for this, but it is what Castro and Che did in Cuba to anyone who they thought opposed them. Pinochet did set Chile on a proper economic development path. I offer this as a reason why Chile is not bankrupt and has not enacted gay marriage (or legal abortion as far as I know).

  • Argentina is living proof of how foolish government policies can take a prosperous economy and drive it into the ditch.

  • When Pinochet took over Chile in 1973, ousting the socialist Allende, one of the things he did was to gather up the leftists and liquidate them.

    Salvador Allende one 1.076 million votes in 1970. Amnesty International has put the death toll attributable to the Chilean government during the Pinochet years at about 3,200 (and fairly minimal after 1977, IIRC).

  • Instapundit: “Socialism never works as a policy, but thanks to human traits of envy and gullibility, it’s often successful as a con.”

    Argentina is blessed with vast natural resources and an educated citizenry. My son went to engineering grad school in U Puerto Rico where there were numbers of foreign students from Central and South America. We had the honor of hosting two Argentine grad students when they visited NYC. One evening I asked why a country with obvious natural riches and blessed with an educated and energetic populace could be so economically backward. The answer was the government and corruption; whenever there was an election they could not know which way things would go.

    Walter Russell Mead cited at Instapundit:

    “Argentina and Venezuela may one day grow weary of being global laughingstocks and turn to sensible policies, but at least for now the socialist dream lives on.

    “The BBC reports that product scarcity has forced Venezuela’s ‘only wine maker’ to stop selling wine to the Catholic Church, which is already suffering from a shortage of consecrated bread as flour is increasingly hard to come by and wheat is only imported from abroad. Milk, sugar and cooking oil have also been affected by the country’s currency controls and centralized control of the economy or, as the government likes to call it, the “opposition-led conspiracy.” On the bright side, however, the country’s crippling toilet paper shortage is now (temporarily) under control.

    “Not to be outdone, Argentina is facing an economic collapse of its own in which inflation, import taxes, and import restrictions have made goods either impossibly overpriced or impossible to find. Worse, the Economist reports, restricted access to foreign currency has forced ordinary Argentines to buy dollars on the black market at nearly double the official rate.”

  • Don, I hope that your admiration for the songs from ‘Evita’ doesn’t extend to that dreadful parody of the Salve Regina …

  • Actually John I think that song underlines the danger of attempting to turn politicians into demi-gods which I believe is one of the points made by the musical.

  • The British Foreign Secretary, Sir Anthony Eden (as he then was) said of Peron that “his character was beneath his talents”

  • Venezuela and Argentina are examples of the miserable history of Latin America after that region won its independence from Spain.

    Blessed with a favorable climate (in most places) and vast natural resources, political corruption, violence and hostility to the Catholic Church and the United States on the part of the Leftist Elite has been the usual formula from the Rio Grande river to Tierra Del Fuego for nearly 200 years.

    I am a student (not an expert) on Latin American history, some of which has occurred within the borders of the USA. It is very complicated, but Latin America usually succeeds in shooting itself in the foot while Southeast Asia, with few natural resources, shows how well capitalism can work.

  • Venezuela and Argentina are examples of the miserable history of Latin America after that region won its independence from Spain.

    General levels of affluence in Latin America are about average in this world. They do tend to have malintegrated labor markets. Leaving aside some border skirmishes, there has been only one inter-state war since 1885, and that involved only two countries. There has been a great deal of intramural political violence (in Mexico, Colombia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Peru, and Nicaragua, especially). Street crime is a wretched menace bar in Chile. The place could be better and could be worse.

  • I recall a common, if rather cynical, saying in the City of London – “Brazil is the country of the future – and always will be”

15,000 Pro-Family and Pro-Marriage March in Argentina

Thursday, June 24, AD 2010

Police estimated 15,000 peaceful marchers came out in defense of the family and marriage against militant gay activists in Argentina on June 19, 2010 rallying Argentinians to vote “in favor of matrimony between one man and one woman.”

Archbishop José Maria Arancibi marched along these peaceful protesters in defense of children.

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Trust Your 401(k) to Uncle Sam?

Friday, October 24, AD 2008

The government of Argentina plans to nationalize, read steal, the private pensions of Argentinian citizens.  Good thing we’re Americans right?  That could never happen here, right?   Depending on how the election next month goes, maybe it could happen here?   Hmmm, that investment strategy of gold in coffee cans buried in the back yard is sounding better and better.

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