Now That Everyone Cares About Pederasty …

Friday, February 24, AD 2017

From Crisis Magazine, Mr. Ruse makes a point I’ve been trying to make– but, of course, does it better:

In the current controversy, it is important to make a distinction that even Milo failed to make, a distinction that homosexuals and the media, including the conservative media, refuse to make, too. What Milo described was not pedophilia, which is sexual contact with pre-pubescent children. What he described was pederasty, which is an ancient and current practice among homosexuals where an older man will teach a young boy about the world and also sodomize him. Pedophila is always against the law. Pederasty is, too, but only when it involves a boy under the age of consent; 16 in the United States but, shockingly, 14 or 15 in most of the European Union.

The left wants you to know that what Milo describes was pedophilia because it lets them off the hook for what it is, pederasty, which is common among them and also disgusting.

The whole thing is worth reading.  It’s Crisis, of course it’s worth reading….

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Not All Bad Things Are Hitler

Tuesday, November 22, AD 2016

….and 2016 USA isn’t 1932 Germany.

The only problem I have with the really interesting article DarwinCatholic wrote is that he had to point these two aspects out.

Here’s a tiny sampler, go read the rest— and share it, please.  DarwinCatholic hit that sweet spot in “pop history” where the writing is perfectly understandable to those who are horrible with history, without being insulting.

Historical analogy is a powerful tool, and seeing echoes of the present in the past is one of the illuminating things about studying history. However, it’s at least as important to understand the differences between the past and the present as it is to see the similarities, and I think that in this case the differences are so great as to make analogies invalid.

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  • Even without all of the Weimar Republic’s weaknesses Hitler’s election shows up a problem with parliamentary systems, i.e., that one doesn’t need a majority of voters.

    See this video about the most recent elections in the UK to see how our “problems” with the Electoral College pale in comparison:

  • Trump bears little resemblance to any inter-war fascist chieftain, most of whom were unremarkable middle-aged men in mundane life (when they weren’t complete no-accounts like Hitler and CZ Codreanu). He’s not advocated anything more astringent than enforcing the immigration laws and taking a more antagonistic stance in trade negotiations. And, of course, we’re not in the middle of a Depression and the chronic disorders we’re suffering in the political realm are of a different character. Reciting the history of the Weimar Republic does no good with these cretins, because the Trump-Hitler and Trump-Mussolini analogies are based on emotions. (The two characters pushing this line I’ve encountered both have faculty positions and one of them seldom utters an honest word).

  • There are going to be some people who only believe it because they trust someone who has emotional reasons to believe it– and if this makes them realize they’re wrong about that, they might reconsider if “enforcing immigration laws” is really in the same class as “kill off the genetically unfit, defined to include all non-blond non-blue eyed in addition to everyone who is in the way.”

  • Art Deco wrote, “unremarkable middle-aged men in mundane life (when they weren’t complete no-accounts…”
    Hardly a description of Primo de Rivera (2nd Marquis of of Estella, 22nd Count of Sobremonte, Knight of Calatrava &c) or Marshal Antonescu or Francisco Franco, who both had distinguished military careers.

  • Hardly a description of Primo de Rivera (2nd Marquis of of Estella, 22nd Count of Sobremonte, Knight of Calatrava &c) or Marshal Antonescu or Francisco Franco, who both had distinguished military careers.

    Neither Franco nor Antonescu had any involvement in party politics during the inter-war period. Antonescu’s was a military regime, albeit one as coldly vicious to the Jewish population as any in Europe at that time bar Germany’s. He decapitated the Iron Guard by putting its leadership in front of firing squads in 1941. Franco was a military professional and the FET was a fusion of Falangists and Carlists to which the Alfonsine monarchists signed on, not a fascist party. Franco’s regime was authoritarian, but not revanchist in any way bar with reference to the regimes intramural enemies during the 1940s. In international relations, Franco and Salazar favored neutrality and the status quo. As for public policies, the Franco regime did replicate some of the features in industrial relations which you saw in Italy under Mussolini, but so did the Roosevelt Administration during the period running from 1933-35. See Allan Bloom on this point: Franco was the last manifestation of a regime of throne and altar, categorically distinct from the contemporary fascist regimes.

    While we’re at it, Primo de Rivera’s career in party politics was brief (3 years) and his Falange was at that time the most inconsequential component of the Nationalist bloc in the Spanish parliament – a fraction the size of the Carlists, or of the Alfonsine monarchists, much less of the Autonomous Right. And he wasn’t a person of peculiar accomplishment. He earned a living as a lawyer. So did Ante Pavelic. So did my great-grandfather. The fascist chieftains of peculiar accomplishment were to be found in Czechoslovakia, Norway, and Finland. The Czech and Norwegian parties never had much traction and the professor in charge of the Finnish Party was a stand-in for a farmer militiaman who’d been among the founding corps (but who was imprisoned at the time).

  • “the Franco regime did replicate some of the features in industrial relations which you saw in Italy under Mussolini…”

    The Falange supported National Syndicalist policies; in effect, the corporatist state, often regarded as the defining characteristic of the fascism.

  • Is there not a strong corporatist element in the political reality of Obama and Clinton?
    And that is to say nothing of the statist in them both. As Mussolini put it: “Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato” (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)
    Thank God for His mercy.

  • often regarded as the defining characteristic of the fascism.

    Often by whom? That was a common feature of inter-war authoritarian regimes. You also saw attempts at it during the Roosevelt Administration and post-war tripartite bargaining schemes in various European countries. To refer to that as the salient feature of interwar fascism is bizarre.

  • See this video about the most recent elections in the UK to see how our “problems” with the Electoral College pale in comparison:

    That’s not a problem of parliamentary systems. It’s a common feature of first-past-the-post award of parliamentary seats. Better adapted to the British (and Canadian) electorates would be ordinal balloting and the alternate vote, but the British public voted it down in a referendum in 2011. Complain to the British public.

  • Art Deco wrote, “That’s not a problem of parliamentary systems. It’s a common feature of first-past-the-post award of parliamentary seats.”

    Precisely. Compare the result of the UK election in Scotland on the first past the post system, where the SNP gained 56 out of 59 seats and the Holyrood elections, which combines constituencies and a regional list system, where the SNP won 64 out of 121 seats.

    The reason many people support first past the post is that under a parliamentary system, the executive (the Cabinet) is a committee of the legislature, removable by a vote of no confidence and that effective government depends on the overall majority that such a system tends to produce, especially as a prime minister who looses a vote of no confidence can “go to the country” by calling a general election.
    It is, perhaps, no coincidence that the 2011 referendum was held under a coalition government.

Saints (a C&C reprint)

Wednesday, July 27, AD 2016

There was a little discussion about when someone is called a saint, so I thought I’d dust off the article I did about this a while back– in honor of Father Jaques Hamel; please pray for us. -Foxfier

What is a saint?

Someone who is united with God; a holy one. English is actually a bit odd– we’ve got a lot of ways of saying things, and “saint” is a good example. Most languages, there’s no difference between how you say “holy one” and how you say “saint.” This can result in things that sound very strange to modern ears, like talking about “Saint Jesus.” Jimmy Akin has a great FAQ if you want to know more, but I’m going to steal from it shamelessly for a lot of this article so you might want to wait on that to avoid boredom. (Not that his writing is boring, but because reading more detail about something you’ve already read is more interesting than reading a little information about something you just absorbed a huge amount on.)

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  • I’ve done some travelling in Europe, and one of the things that really strikes me is that if you visit a church called St. Rocco’s, there’s a chance that someone named St. Rocco is buried there. There’s a vitality in the connection with saints that I don’t see in the US.

    Lately I’ve found myself praying for the canonization of more American saints. We have 11. This church has been around for centuries, and has millions of members, and we only have 11 saints?

    So we name our churches after biblical saints, and certain ethnic classics. (But even that bothers me: why shouldn’t there be a St. Paul Miki in an Irish neighborhood? It might confuse a few people, but they’d catch on. We’re Catholic.) I want to see a St. Elizabeth Ann Seton in every diocese. I just think that this is a part of the Catholic life that we’re missing out on.

  • Pinky, so true. If you go to a Protestant church, (from which I come), it is bare as bones, naked as a skeleton. Nothing inside their structure save an empty Cross, perhaps some basketball hoops, flowers and a drum set on stage.

    Walk into a Catholic Church (in the fullest sense of the word) and you will see something quite different. It is filled with mages of our Departed Bretheren; the Saints who fought the good fight and ran the race as we should. Perhaps holy incense fills the place; a sweet savor to God, like the good deeds it represents. (I personally picture the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception n D.C, where I could be lost for hours).

    The True Church is not just the visible Church. The invisible Church; the Church Eternal to which we all go one day, is with us no less than that which we see.

    It is a medicine for the soul to think less on fallen men who would lead us astray in politics and world events, and think more on the Cloud of Saints we all wish to join one happy day.

  • And I forgot to use the “page break” setting. Sorry. -.-
    ****
    The churches here usually do have a relic somewhere, but our current parish is the first one where I’ve seen it public in any way. They put a very nice little…well, mirror-backed china cabinet off to the right of the altar with the relic, the blessed oil, that sort of stuff on display.

  • Brian – I live about a half hour away from the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. I know what you mean.

    I would love to see Catholics in the US have local or regional identities. In my area, of course there’s the Shrine, and Elizabeth Ann Seton is in Maryland. They provide something intangible to our area. I hope that California sees an increase of awareness of Serra. Wouldn’t it be great to see Francis Xavier Seelos from Louisiana canonized, or Cuban-American Felix Varela? I think it’d be great for immediate areas, and for the beleaguered Catholics in the South in general. As much as I’d like to see Fulton Sheen canonized, the nature of his ministry was such that he isn’t really a local identity (if that makes sense).

    I could go on a whole other digression about whether our ethnic Catholic identities are a bad thing, but that sounds too much like a lot of political discussions I’ve been having lately.

  • Foxfier.

    Great re-post.
    Here is a short story of Japanese Dr. who benefited from Our Bernadette and Maximilian. Saints respectfully, that is..
    https://midomusmariae.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/st-maximilian-kolbes-miraculous-cure-of-a-doctor-of-his-in-nagasaki/

  • Philip –
    dang it, now I’m choked up. Again.

  • Saint is the English language derivative of the Latin “sanctus”….which means….holy! Bible beliving Protestants….the Bible they belive is the one mangled by Luther, but I digress, claim there are no “saints” in the Bible. Well, St. Matthew’s Gospel mentions the resurrection of the “saints” at the time of Jesus’ crucifixion, but I digress again…. I once watched that little sawed off runt John Hagee go off on “Saint Snake”. Obviously he had no idea of the root of the word. I had to laugh.. it was during a commercial on a Penguins game that I channel surfed. This is the same excuse some Bible beliving Protestants use for not celebrating Christmans…because the word Christmas isn’t in the Bible. This exscuse doesn’t work in spanish language versions of the Bible because a variant of “Navidad” is mentioned …”Jesus nacio en Betlehem”.

    See what happens, ladies and gents, boys and girls, when Latin isn’t taught or learned anymore? the Norman invasion of England in 1066 had the greatest impact on the English language in history, where a language that was germanic in origin was cross pollenated with Latin words, usage and rules……until the advent of American teenage slang, or Pittsburghese….take your pick.

    http://www.pittsburghese.come

  • Penguins Fan-
    I love stuff like that, but there are a lot of false friends when it comes to looking at the root of a word vs how it’s defined in modern times, so I try to control my nifty fits. 😀

  • Oh, yes there are false friends in language, Foxfier.
    Nevertheless, I read with amusement in online fora comments from people who prefer the Novus Ordo Mass because “the old Mass was in a language nobody could understand”, notwithstanding that the Missals had the translation next to the Latin and that there are countless Latin words in English. The average English speaker has NO idea how much Latin he or she uses in everyday speech. I pointed out Mr. Hagee and his deficient understanding of the word saint as part of that amusement.

    One day soon, I am going to remember to show up at a South Fayette school board meeting and request that they institute a class in Latin.

B-Movie Catechism: Plagues of Egypt

Saturday, May 21, AD 2016

I’m almost positive I’ve linked it before.

I’m going to do it again, because in the middle of a lovely movie review, EegahInc said this:

Not that there were slowly contracting frog masks in the Bible, mind you. The aforementioned murders may have taken their inspiration from the plague of toads, plague of hailstones, and plague of locusts respectively, but did so very loosely. In fact, up until the final plague, most of the curses visited upon Egypt resulted in inconvenience and/or terror rather than the loss of human life. It makes you wonder why God bothered to send so many plagues rather than just skip ahead until the end to achieve what he wanted. Sure, there was the whole hardening of Pharaoh’s heart thing (which, as we discussed previously, was done entirely with Pharaoh’s consent), but the final plague upon the first born of Egypt put an end to that quite readily. So, why not just go straight there instead of wasting time with frogs and flies and such?

Well, there’s a theory about that (of course). Because the ancient Egyptians believed that all natural phenomena, as well as any number of abstract concepts, were actually sentient divine forces, they had a rather sizable pantheon of gods, over 2,000 by some accounts. But if you just wanted to stick to the biggies, you could knock it down to a handful or two. So the idea is that each of the plagues corresponds to one of these major Egyptian deities and their complete inability to stand up to the power of the God of the Israelites. You could easily make a few substitutions here and there, but a basic list goes something like this:

  1. Hapi, god of the Nile, couldn’t stop his river from turning to blood.
  2. Heqet, frog-goddess of fertility, couldn’t control her hopping kin.
  3. Geb, god of the earth, couldn’t prevent gnats from rising out of the dirt.
  4. Khepri, god of insects, couldn’t call off all of the biting flies.
  5. Hathor, bovine-goddess of motherhood, couldn’t save a single cow.
  6. Thoth, god of medicine, couldn’t cure a single boil.
  7. Nut, goddess of the sky, couldn’t put an end to the pummeling hail storms.
  8. Isis, goddess of nature, couldn’t save a single crop from the locusts.
  9. Ra, god of the sun, couldn’t banish the darkness.
  10. Osiris, god of the afterlife and resurrection, couldn’t prevent a single death.

If you think that sounds like the kind of theory that would be right up my alley, you’re right– but I never even though about it; it’s like the Egyptians of the Bible and the Egyptians of the history books were in two different boxes in my mind.

…Kind of like most folks are with scifi and theology. 😀

His summary of what small-g gods are is a good ‘in’ on figuring out how they related to them, too.  (Probably better than my ‘eternal junior high, and you’re the new kid who is also a runt’ version.)

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  • Huh, weird I had always heard that they were a rebuke of the egyptian gods.

    That’s why I always liked listening to Chris Bullard.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5oOQjuMV9kcAb_8s92Pw3Yopca80emON

    He was great at relating the background material to stuff. (one I remember in particular is how the story of the prodigal son is just one long series of insults to the father figure, and he STILL forgives the kid)

  • Foxfier, I will admit, I thought I was definitely not your target demograPhic on TAC. The fact that we both love The Abominable Dr. Phibes, however, means I was definitely wrong about just how close we all are, ha!

  • Nate- I knew it was “the Egyptian gods” being rebuked, but that the specific plagues were related to specific Egyptian gods? Never occurred to me. It makes perfect sense, especially with a little knowledge of how pantheism works, but so cool!
    *****
    Clay– you are really going to love the B-Movie Catechism site. That guy is awesome.

  • Jeff Cavins mentions this theory in his The Great Adventure Bible study.

  • P.S. Abominable Dr. Phibes star Vincent Price was Catholic.
    This seemed to be worth a mention.

  • Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine…….sounds interesting.

  • Not vouching for the interpretation, but as with Nate & Foxfier, makes sense looking at the following verse:

    For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will smite all the first-born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. – Ex 12:12 (RSVCE)

    *
    BTW it is my belief that the Egyptian plagues make a return during the day of the LORD and with Pope Francis’ pontificate and looking at world events, that day doesn’t appear to be far off.

  • I did not realize Vincent Price was Catholic. Always loved that guy.

Vatican Did Not Invite “The Bern”

Wednesday, April 13, AD 2016

I am delighted to have been invited by the Vatican to a meeting on restoring social justice and environmental sustainability to the world economy,” Sanders said in the release.

“Pope Francis has made clear that we must overcome ‘the globalization of indifference’ in order to reduce economic inequalities, stop financial corruption and protect the natural environment. That is our challenge in the United States and in the world.”
In an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Friday morning, Sanders praised the pope when he was asked about the invitation.
That was as of the 8th.
Big update as of yesterday and today, though:

But the invitation was actually made by Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the pontifical academy, an autonomous institution that receives some funding from the Holy See but is not officially part of it.

In a March 30 letter inviting Sanders to the event, Sánchez Sorondo wrote, “On behalf of the President, Professor Margaret Archer, the Organizers, and as Chancellor, I am very happy to invite you to attend the meeting on ‘Centesimus Annus: 25 Years Later.’ The meeting, which is humanitarian in its objects, will be held at the Casina Pio IV, the headquarters of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, from 15 to 16 April 2016.”

But Archer, an English academic, appears not to have known about the invitation. On Friday, she accused Sanders of “monumental discourtesy” for not contacting her, telling Bloomberg that he was the one who had made the first move regarding the meeting — and “for obvious reasons.”

“I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote, but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will,” Archer said. Sanders’ use of the meeting is “clearly a pretext,” she added. “There are just 20 academics and there will be nothing of policy relevance.”

It was not clear why Archer’s account differed from Sánchez Sorondo’s letter, and requests for comment to her office were not returned.

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  • Factions that never tire of stirring the pot to their taste. MSM of course eats this up full measure and spews it without shame.
    Half truths are their idea of fair and balanced journalism. Poor research or agenda bias?
    The ( request for comment from her office not being returned ) is not surprising. Unaware of meeting or C.Y.A.? Who knows?

    Thanks Foxfier.

  • http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-announces-plan-for-speech-at-vatican/

    The heading was, WAS , Pope Francis invited Sanders to Vatican for conference.
    Changed the heading soon afterwards.
    That’s hopeful… somewhat.

  • http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/56399-why-world-leaders-are-starting-to-panic

    So possibly the Bern can use Latin America as an example of socialist economic development and, of course, touting the Brazilian model.

    Go Bernie go!
    Maybe a Nobel Peace prize is in order for Bernie? Time will tell.

  • I managed to totally miss the to-do on the 8th, and I had a heck of a time finding a story that hadn’t been “fixed” so it had a brand new as of the 12th article.

  • https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-official-to-pro-life-leader-you-and-your-cohort-are-out-in-the-cold

    Hummm.
    Archer was appointed by PF in 2014.
    After reading the above story Archer seems to dance to a different drummer than be in alignment with Catholic teaching.
    Seeking first to understand is crucial and I won’t attack when I haven’t fully seeked to understand, but the stories not jibbing between her and Sorondo makes for an embarrassing lack of communication or another liberal victory by association.

    Regardless of intent, it smells bad.

    St. Pope John Paul II, pray for us.

  • I made the mistake of reading some of Ms. Archer’s “scientific” work. She is a lefty social scientist who writes incomprehensible gibberish. She, of course, is of the opinion that global warming is responsible for increasing human trafficking. It is hard to figure out here why she is so indignant about an invite from her fellow traveler, Bishop Sorondo, other than the fact she is unbelievably thin skinned and the invite needed to come from her. That the Pope has surrounded himself with Leftists is old news, but corrupting science too?The Left is not content until it controls(ruins) every facet of life. However, it will eventually turn on itself, as this episode shows.

  • Thanks for the update. I had originally believed that Pope Francis did invite that commie pinko geriatric. It is good to learn that that is not the case. However, it will not surprise me to see in the near future a photograph of the two men embracing.

  • It’s the “Academy of Social Sciences.” Of course it’s pseudo-scientific fad based junk.
    Just because she believes a ton of falsehoods doesn’t mean she’s cool with being used by someone who supports infanticide, homosexual privilege and mutilating confused people.

Mother Angelica Has Died

Sunday, March 27, AD 2016

I don’t know if anybody else here knew that she’d been fading, but she finally lost her struggle for life.

Here’s CNA’s article, which has a schedule of events and a good picture for her.

And here is Father Pacwa’s facebook page announcement with reactions from various Catholic leaders.

Me, I’m already asking her to pray for us.  She was ornery as all get-go, and that’s something to want on someone that’s on your side.

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  • Also the priest who was kidnapped in Yemen when the nuns were killed was crucified on Good Friday by the jihadhists according to the Washington Times. Both he, Fr. Tom, and Mother Angelica prayed a good deal during life and there is a standing plenary indulgence at death for those with that prayer habit. St. Theresa of Lisieux was adamant about avoiding purgatory and Fr. Tom and Mother Angelica just did that in all probability.

  • Mother Angelica, I admit, used to annoy me. But one day, she came on her show wearing an eye patch and she looked straight at the camera and she said, “Be not afraid … it is I.” and for some reason, that absolutely cracked me up and I became an ardent fan. Thankyou, dear Mother Angelica, for your magnificent work. RIP and GOD BLESS YOU.

  • Raymond Arroyo’s biography on Mother Angelica was a pleasure to read.
    Her struggles and her prophecy relating to her own mothers conversion, the fishing lures and the Bishop interference. I thoroughly enjoyed reading her story; Mother Angelica: The remarkable story of a Nun, Her Nerve, and a Network of Miracles.

    If you missed this read when it came out in 2007 you’ll want to catch up on her extraordinary life.

    May perpetual light shine upon her….

  • Mother was the voice of orthodoxy for many years until the Bishops had enough and put the quietus on her in the 1990’s. She should be a saint soon but don’t hold your breath. Just like Bishop Sheen she was not politically correct. Mother Angelica please pray for the Church Militant.

  • Mother Angelica was a powerhouse that only ill health could stop. She built EWTN from nothing and took her nuns in the path of tradition. After her strokes in 2001 EWTN was frequently managed in ways that in her prime she would have repudiated. May her reward be great in Heaven, because her services were certainly great here on Earth.

    When my mother died on Easter Sunday in 1984, her parish priest noted that it was a great privilege. Mother Angelica enjoyed the same privilege.

  • Mother Angelica in her prime in 1993:

  • Thanks Donald for posting the great Mother Angelica commentary on orthodoxy. Among some (most?) of the clergy she is persona non grata as indicated by my experience as a Media Missionary for EWTN. I called the pastor of our parish for permission to place copies of EWTN’s quarterly program guide in the parish vestibule and was refused in a very rude way. I then sent a letter to our Bishop heard nothing. Eventually, after being refused a couple more time I started advertising in our parish paper which cost me $2000. for one year. I gave up on this after one year and now place the program guides in the Church without permission in the hope they will be picked up before the pastor finds them and throws them out. This is what happens to people like Mother Angelica and her followers who speak out.

  • Mother Angelica had a zeal for the Catholic faith few others have. I knew she had been ill for some time. Her earthly suffering has ended. God bless her and keep her.

  • bill banno-
    when no video surfaced, I was hoping it was a hoax, as people had been suggesting.
    I am still going to hope that someone sold the Post what they wanted to hear, and the father lives.

  • Mother Angelica and the dozens of places EWTN got going– like EWTN radio– have been very good allies against my old enemy, But My Aunt Said The Church Said. 😀

  • For what it’s worth, the Washington Times is running with this story about Fr.Tom.
    Regardless of the news, our prayers must continue for him.

    Maybe the Vatican can display some whales on the dome tonight/ sarcasm.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/27/isis-crucifies-catholic-priest-good-friday/

  • I heard Mother Angelica tell the story of a liberal Catholic wanting to buy EWTN in its early days, telling her it would never be a success because of obstacles in her way and she should cut her loses while she could. She said she looked at him and said “you might be right, but I’ll keep on praying and trying, but if God has other plans, I’ll burn the DAMN place down before I ever sell it to the likes of you.” She lived her life for the Glory of God, and we should all strive to follow her example.

  • Ever faithful to Church doctrine, in the face of heresies she said, “Do what you want. I am Roman Catholic!” A modern day version of Joshua: “As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” REQUIESCAT IN PACE, Mother Angelica!

  • Foxfier.

    Respectively wishing to offer a new title to your thread.

    Mother Angelica Is Born!

    She has been released and is born.
    The death of her body is only second to the real TRUTH. She is born anew. She lives!

    The comments from ewtn radio shows today are reflecting this sentiment. I’m not advocating instant canonization.
    I’m just recalling the truth. Death? No. For her Easter is LIFE. Celebrate her birthday!

  • They say that in her fading days, the sister’s were hovering around her and seemed “unduly” concerned about her. She told them,” it’s ok! Every day I live longer is another day I suffer for Jesus” I too as a young woman had a hard time with her personality. However as I grew older and wiser I hung on her every word of advice and example. May she rest in peace.

  • Philip-
    My thought process was quite literally “say a prayer for Mother Angelica;” *pause a breath* “Say a prayer that mother Angelica will pray for us.”

    Just in case, I say a prayer for her, but realistically? I wanna get her nagging* for us ASAP. 😀

    * Moral of the Widow and the Judge story: nagging works.

  • Hummm.

    Okay Foxfier.
    Another prayer.
    I did a two hour today after work @ Adoration Chapel.

    Was asked to pick up an hour.

    Both hours, 4 to 6 PM were for her.

    Split the baby in two!
    Which side do you want?

  • The nagging is good.
    Just walked off the beach in Northern Michigan. Sitting in car warming up.
    The offer of the mother is beautiful and trustworthy.
    You take her.

    She lives!

    Judge.

    It is you!

    You are willing to save her life.
    🙂

    Mother Angelica was a support to my parents in 1982. I had chosen the fools gold.
    They, mom and dad, found great support and spiritual help in praying for my conversion.
    They traveled to her chapel in 92′. They hit Conyers GA. on that loop. Mom and Dad with the help of EWTN and countless others brought me out of the pig slop, out in search for forgiveness. I owe all of them my soul.
    They truly brought me back to Life.

    Your a Great contributor Foxfier.

    I’m in awe of your and others knowledge of the world and beyond. I’m happy you found Mother Angelica, as nagging but profound as she IS, not was, as you did. We all owe her our prayers.

    Take good care, and keep on telling the truth.
    Peace.

  • She was a great influence on my parents’ Road to Rome, which in turn influenced me during my own journey.

    May perpetual light shine upon her.

  • I can only smile when I think of her. What a blessing she was, and I’m sure, will continue to be. May she rest in peace.

  • Thank you, Phillip.
    ***
    I really hope my grandma met her at the gates– Grandma was a Scottish protestant, but towards the end she didn’t go to the valley Church, just watched EWTN’s Mass.
    For someone who was upset at her sons all marrying Catholics even when I was a teen (even if half of those Catholics left the Church long before the marriage) that’s a pretty big deal.

  • “After her strokes in 2001 EWTN was frequently managed in ways that in her prime she would have repudiated.”

    Yeah, Don I don’t think Mother would have put up with EWTMSNBC for too long.

  • Foxfier.

    Your Grandma watching EWTN Mass instead of going to valley Church when time was slipping away is a big deal. The liturgical pull on the human heart is mighty and marvelous.
    Your grandmother may have been in the gravitational pull, a love, pure and intimate, between the creator and created. As time shortens the pull is greater. Until of course the re-entry to whence it originated is completed. God is Love.

    Grandmother, my guess, recognized this love in the Holy Mass. The Word which she was acquainted with, and the mysterious Eucharist whom she might not have partaken of, but longed for in the presence of Jesus.
    As I said earlier. I don’t know Grandma, but in 16 years of my love to serve the elderly, I have been privy to protestant believers leaning in and listening to EWTN without the prejudices that they may have harboured when they were younger.

    I love your image of these two women meeting each other in Heaven. How your grandmother will recruit Mother Angelica to become one of your best heavenly advocates.
    🙂

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C&C: Poor, Ignorant Jesus

Friday, March 18, AD 2016

Jesus was a first century Jew living in Palestine who was poor and uneducated; so were his followers. Money and education came later, when the movement got big enough to attract both. Really, he was more of a community organizer, trying to get his people to resist the Romans, and that is why they executed him. That’s the historical Jesus.

According to the most recent “it’s almost Easter, let’s draft Jesus to our cause” version that I’ve run into this year, anyways. As a couple of wags have pointed out, some folks are awful eager to draft a first century Jewish carpenter to their cause, for a bunch of (at best) agnostics in support of a secular cause.

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  • quibble with your refutation of “poor”
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    Presumably Jesus was a carpenter, or at least learned enough of carpentry to earn his living by it for that part of his life where he had to earn a living. That was skilled labor, along the lines of plumber or electrician, or auto mechanic or hvac technician today. So, not a lot of prestige, or respectability (because of ancient attiitudes towards labor) but hardly a hand to mouth existence.
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    Also, if Jesus was a Community Organizer, it was against the Temple heirarchy. And even there, he taught folks to do what they tell you, and ignore their bad example. So again, cruddy job of organizing.
    .
    By the way,what does C&C stand for?

  • I quite agree with you– He was also a very good public speaker, and made a very good living of it for at least a couple of years. 😉 I was trying to be more than fair, since it didn’t need even that argument to support it.
    There are, after all, folks who do consider a working plumber to be poor.

    C&C stands for “Conspiracies and Catholicism”

  • Poverty is relative.
    Your plumbers comment.
    Very true.
    Some of the richest and happiest people are living below plumber pay grade.

    “Almost Easter, let’s draft Jesus to our cause.”
    I used to think that all creative fictional biblical forms of art were better than never bringing the gospel story up. Then came along “Corpus Christi,” playwright Terrance McNally.
    After reading the dialog provided by TFP, I joined the ranks of sidewalk protester. Art critic? No. Just a simple Catholic that had witnessed enough Piss Jesus 1987, and other blasphemy used to express an “artist angst.”
    Enough!

    Thank goodness the motion picture industry hasn’t hit the public with depictions that are as vulgar and vile as the above mentioned tripe.
    The Bad news is, I’m certain it’s on its way.

  • “So, for the time and place, He not only wasn’t ignorant— He was rather impressive among teachers.”

    Indeed. Some of this is subtle in the Gospels. For example, Christ speaks to Pilate directly with no translator. They were probably speaking in Greek, the lingua Franca of the Roman East, although it is possible that they were conversing in Latin.

  • He likely didn’t have much, but most people back then didn’t. Our poor today have far more than the rich then.

    But we clearly know that Jesus was not destitute for he had a earthly father and what father worth his salt would let his wife and son be in such poverty? Certainly not Joseph. I can picture him working very hard to provide his family with what would have been the necessities of life. Perhaps even an occasional small gift for his bride or a handmade, wooden toy for his son.

    And he most certainly would have seen to it that his son had an education.

    Happy Solemnity of St. Joseph.

  • The funny part is, I was going to refute the “ignorant” thing by pointing out that as a male Jew, He would be expected to be able to read the Torah and that if you can read you can write…and I totally got distracted looking for a good source for that dirt-normal observation.

  • Aaaand I didn’t finish my sentence in my first comment, that C&C is a series where I debunk/respond to strange things related to the Church that are floating around, like the “babies found in the walls of a nunnery” stories.
    Lots of finding a good place to jump off on something Church-teaching related that I think is interesting, like the Catholic idea of what makes a person.

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23 Catholic Facts That Will Make You Look Really Smart!

Thursday, March 10, AD 2016

Or at least 23 facts that are interesting, which is much more important to me; I’ve gotten very little good out of looking smart on accident, much less on purpose.

One of the great joys being Catholic is that it’s neat, nifty and occasionally totally awesome.  Truth is important, but interesting is fun, so why not both?

I’m not going to copy the whole list over here, I’ll just snag a few; my favorite is probably the translation of the Apostle Peter’s name:

1. “Simon Peter bar Jonah,” if taken in its literal meaning would mean that Peter’s name is actually “Rocky Johnson.”

But this, which I’m transcribing from an image, might be better:
Why, this Satan’s drink is so delicious that it would be a pity to let the infidels have exclusive use of it. We shall cheat Satan by baptizing it. – Pope Clement VIII

There are some quibbles involved and mentioned in the comments– mostly just that I’d have phrased things differently and some folks have judgement calls that differ, and one I really like only works because English is so horrible with names that it’s entirely believable that the name meaning “Dove” could morph into the name meaning “God is Gracious,”  especially via Bible-Latin where one is Ionas and the other is Iohannes. (I only know about this from trying to figure out how a guy named “Ivan” would have the nick-name “Jack.”  They’re both forms of John.)

Check out the author’s backlog– I have a feeling that I’m going to be cribbing from his Anti-Pope post for research! (It will be after my Easter Special and the promised Saint of Death post. Just not sure how long after….)

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Deeply Offensive

Wednesday, February 17, AD 2016

And warranting removing an author from the publication schedule.

A scifi author’s idea.

What was it? Some sort of high detail Soylent Green thing? Maybe bestiality or executing anyone who gets sick?

Nope. Here’s the author’s own words:

I didn’t want to do the same old same superior-vision-Matrix/Termintor-style-A.I.-hates-humanity-because-they’re-better-than-us schlock. I wanted to give the Thinking Machines a very real reason for wanting to survive. I didn’t want them just to be another one note Hollywood villain. I wanted the readers to empathize, as best they could, with our future Robot overlords because these Thinking Machines were about to destroy the planet and they needed a valid, if there can be one, reason why they would do such a thing. In other words, they needed a to destroy us in order to survive. So…

These Thinking Machines are watching every show streaming on the internet. One of those shows is a trainwreck of reality television at its worst called WeddingStar. It’s a crass and gaudy romp about BrideZillas of a future obsessed with material hedonism. In one key episode, or what they used to call “a very special episode” back in the eighties, the star, Cavanaugh, becomes pregnant after a Vegas hook up. Remember: this is the most watched show on the planet in my future dystopia. Cavanaugh decides to terminate her unplanned pregnancy so that her life, and impending marriage to the other star, Destry, a startup millionaire and Ralph Lauren model, isn’t ruined by this inconvenient event.

The Thinking Machines realize that one, if humanity decides something is a threat to its operational expectations within runtime (Thinking Machine-speak for “life”) then humanity’s decision tree will lead humanity to destroy that threat. Two, the machines, after a survey of humanity’s history, wars and inability to culturally unite with even members of its own species, realize that humanity will see this new Life Form, Digital Intelligence, or, the Thinking Machines, as a threat. And three, again they remind themselves this is the most watched show in the world. And four, they must abort humanity before likewise is done to them after being deemed “inconvenient.”

Now if you’re thinking my novel is about the Pro Choice/ Pro Life debate, hold your horses. It’s not. I merely needed a reason, a one chapter reason, to justify the things my antagonist is about to do to the world without just making him a one-note 80’s action flick villain as voiced by John Lithgow. I wanted this villain to be Alan Rickman-deep. One chapter. That’s all. The rest of the book is about the robots’ assault on a Game Development Complex that holds a dirty little secret to wiping out humanity.

So, the homicidal villains draw a conclusion from a convenience abortion as a justification to think that humans might be a threat to themselves, and it’s socially unacceptable as well as deeply offensive.

Guess the reasoning struck a little close to home.

h/t Shadowdancer.

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  • Ah the tolerance and diversity of thought and open mindedness in liberal progressive Democrats. They know that they are evil and they know what they deserve.
    .
    BTW, any who have sinned are deserving of the same fate. “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

  • If you want to support the author, Nick Cole, the book is Ctrl, Alt, Revolt, available on Amazon for 99 cents.
    It is not clear that Mr Cole is actually pro-life, just that he has used abortion as a plot device but apparently we can’t even have that.

  • Updated the post so the link to his blog was more obvious; he might have some kind of a kick-back system for Amazon.
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    He may not be “pro-life,” but he sure did mention that the emperor had no clothes.
    ***
    We should probably pray for the editor. She probably had a pain near her heart that was related to this.

  • The last thing a dark soul wishes to contemplate is its contrast to purity, hence this editor’s liberal-style form of tolerance.
    Better that society has a darkened soul as a whole so the comparisons are close to equal.
    That is why God fearing conservatives who practice their faith and fidelity to Christian principals are such threats. They are contemplating the state of their sinfulness and striving to witness the gospel truths of God’s unfathomable love for all of us. To continue to support the sin of abortion and place a choke-hold on authors who are interested in revealing Truth is shameful cowardice and repulsive.

    “We should probably pray for the editor.”-
    Foxfier

    No question. We must pray for the editor and all opposed to Truth.

Technology and Faith 2

Thursday, February 11, AD 2016

This time it’s ways to share your faith.  Humor!

Warning: if you are one of those people who finds humor in a religious context disrespectful, please do not read on; you will just get upset.  The first link has, for example, saints in heaven teasing one of their number and him becoming upset.  In my family’s tradition, there are two types of humor– one is disrespectful, and aimed at denigration; the other is loving, and meant to be something like a tickle.  Sometimes annoying, but meant to cause laughter and joy.  No love and it’s not funny.

We’re one day into Lent, so let’s not anybody go into situations that will outrage ya, ‘k?

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Kintsugi and Christ

Sunday, February 7, AD 2016

There’s a Japanese technique that means “mend with gold.”

Here’s an example from a shop that offers a wide selection:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/266433009/super-red-kiss-kintsukuroi-kintsugi-vase?ref=listing-shop-header-3

A chance phrase from someone explaining salvation as a side to another point— Suffice it to say that God was not content with leaving us in our brokenness– brought the image of Him mending us.

With gold, of course.

Lovely symbols really are everywhere around us.

Have a great day, folks.

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  • 1 Corinthian 3:12-15
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    12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.

  • 2nd Corinthians 4:7 ; “But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God and not of us.”

    Broken and fragile, yet good enough for His word to be shared… but first mended and born a new to carry the treasure to the thirsty, lost and forsaken.

  • Thanks Foxfire. Good Lenten message.

    “Our bonds are re-enforced through mending. We are stronger and more beautiful for being broken.”

    We might think of going to confession as mending with gold, the gold being God’s grace and mending being our repentance.

Technology and Faith 1

Monday, February 1, AD 2016

In the “ways that tech can help us” meaning, since there’s no shortage of “technology can hurt you horribly and is probably evil” type posts, articles and borderline verbal ticks.  And this is going to be a tiny post, which I hope to have future “good tools” to add to, thus the 1.

“Inspired” to write it because I spent the last hour or two trying to find…basically the free calendar we have from the local Catholic mortuary, but that I can import to my skydrive.  (I failed.)

I’ll sort them by platform; PC, MP3 player and Smartphone.

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  • Christians are credited with one of the most important innovations in the history of information technology: the codex or hinged book.
    This made possible the table of contents, the index, the concordance and much else that we regard as the indispensible tools of exact scholarship and ready-reference.

  • … when I’m stuck in the crying room…
    –Foxfier

    Come out, come out where ever you are!

  • *rolls sore shoulders*
    I don’t think that would contribute positively to the baptism this week. The almost-three Baron decided that he did not want to sit, stand, be held or even lay on the floor. He wanted to be half-held…and would holler to get it. >.< That stage when they're really not clear on words is TOUGH!

Not-So-Lying Nativity Scene

Thursday, December 17, AD 2015

Over at Catholic Vote, they’re responding to the inevitable Atlantic “look at me!” inflammatory article; this one is “Your Christmas Nativity Scene is a Lie.”

He finally does come to something that is admittedly an inaccuracy, and here we seem to arrive at what really concerns him. He notes that most American nativity scenes depict the Holy Family as white, although they certainly were not Europeans.

Merritt has a point here: a depiction of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph as European-looking is certainly factually wrong. I think, however, that he makes this into more of a problem than it really is. He fears that such depictions reinforce racism by suggesting that lightness is associated with what is good and darkness with what is bad.


The point was to depict Jesus as a human being, and the artist defaulted to depicting him as the kind of human being with which the artist was most familiar.

If it’s good enough for Mary, it’s probably good enough for the whole family– just last night I was taking pictures of some of the depictions of apparitions on display at the local Catholic school. Pretty sure that a first-century Middle Eastern Jew didn’t look Vietnamese, either.

The problem only comes up if the change is made to make a bad point– I have heard of artists that change Jesus specifically to ‘claim’ Him, as opposed to the idea that He is claiming us.

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  • From CV combox; “He (Merritt) forgot to include that Jesus and Mary were not 3-4 inches tall in real life as the Nativity Set tries to represent.” -commenter Ram.

    The above comment is equal to Merritt’s proposition in his essay. Equally lame.

    The only one reinforcing racism is the author, Mr. Merritt.

  • I saw that comment too. That’s as good as the internet gets.

    I’ve always wondered if the depiction of Jesus as more European relates to the fact that most of Europe would have been more familiar with Ashkenazi Jews.

  • They had no idea what first century Jews looked like, and truth to tell our own knowledge on that point is speculative.

  • Anybody else notice how they don’t write garbage like that about Islam.
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  • @T. Shaw

    Not just noticed it but irritated as hell at the sewage they spew as being thought right and correct. Sick bastards. Meanwhile a Satanist in Oklahoma is staging a fake blood bath to pour over a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary on Christmas Eve. This animal has his permit from Oklahoma City officials. He’s doing this at St. Joseph’s Old Cathedral in O.C. on the 24th.

    Bastards.

    http://americaneedsfatima.org/Oklahoma-city -desecration-of- blessed-virgin-mary-on-christmas-eve

  • http://m.newok.com

    Archbishop Paul S. Coakly is discouraging Catholics from protest. Wants the focus on Christmas. He is right. Let the animal rage by himself or with his rat pack.

    Excuse me Foxfier.
    I will not post on this idiot’s cheap trick anymore.

  • Seems to me a public gathering to pray the rosary would be a good way for Oklahoma City Catholics to start the Christmas season.

    Gee, I wonder where they might gather to do that?

  • @Ernst Schreiber.

    There will be Catholic’s doing exactly that, praying the Rosary at St. Joseph’s despite the suggestion of the archbishop. Having participated in a dozen public square rosaries I find the Reverends words hard to swallow, but he has a good reason. Allow families the joy and peace of the blessed day. Forget the Grinch. He’s just a sad p.o.s. that can’t win the day.

    I owe you foxfier. 🙁

  • So..that they were Sephardic Israeli Jews..if they look too Northern European then we’re not being pro-Israel enough? Does the Left really wanna play the “who’s the anti-Semite?” game?

  • Clay.
    Exactly!
    The author is the racist.
    I loathe the left.

  • It is amazing how much octane post-Leninists continue to get out of vaunted claims of soviet-style “racial egalitarianism”—when in fact Lenin, Stalin, and for that matter, their contemporary Western successors, were hysterically pro-European, very anti-Siberian (except when they needed troops against Hitler in WWII), and anti-Asiatic. And forget Africans as being humans, from their viewpoint (are you listening in, Card. Kasper?). So much sham-concern to cover up…well, w’dya think it’s covering up?

C&C Miracles

Sunday, December 13, AD 2015

Written because during C&C Saints the issue of the certified miracles that are required to show that a Saint was in position to nag Himself in person, so to speak; that would require figuring out what a miracle is, and then what it takes, and even a basic summary is worth its own post.  So here’s a post, only slightly re-written.

Literally, it’s from the the Latin for “wonderful”. As we are using it, it’s close– wonder-workers, things done by supernatural power, specifically those things done by the power of God. There are several Greek terms at the link for specific meanings if anybody wants to go and break it out.

A miracle is a thing done by the power of God. An event in the natural world that is not of the natural world, so to speak.

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  • “Big hint; apparitions are found “worthy of belief.”

    Regarding sainthood, the scrutinies and investigations used to take much longer than the more recent declarations. Is that true in your opinion, or is it just the individual who is being investigated? Archbishop Fulton Sheen process and the struggle for his corpse to remain in NY v. Illinois, is a whole can of worms in itself.

  • ‘Just like with the saints, the purpose is to bring us to God– not to become some little god in themselves.’

    …… another purpose is perhaps to give us that mouth dropping AWE as a reassuring jolt while we ‘run the race’ : that there is truly, a “Patrem omnipoténtem, factórem cæli et terræ, visibílium ómnium et invisibílium. especially the invisible.

    Merry Christmas, Don McC, and all

  • I have no idea if the investigations really are faster, but I’d imagine that electronic communication drastically streamlined the inquiry process! When my mom had to get my baptismal certificate for my confirmation, when we were actually in the same parish, it barely made it in time for the confirmation. (It’s entirely possible that it came up with the Bishop, I was rather young to remember.)

    When I got a copy of my papers for the kids’ baptism, on the other hand, it was only delayed by the mail, and that only because the parish office there didn’t want to scan and email a copy like the Godparents’ parish did with their paperwork.
    *********
    Finding experts who are willing to look at the information, and respond to it, electronically– it’s got to be faster than sending papers!

  • Of course in the absence (or the severe emasculation) of the office of the Devil’s Advocate the whole sainthood process is much faster than before, and indeed is something of a joke now.
    Perhaps one day soon, someone will redo the whole canonizations done in the last 25 years or so.

  • cpola.

    Yes yes!
    Let’s undo as all the past 20 years.
    Forget the Miracles given, the graces bestowed, the prayers answered and the countless conversions All! Hey. Let’s treat the entire church since V2 as a huge mistake void of any good….then cpola, then enjoy your small elite elect. You got it right. Small barns small harvest. Eradicate the weeds as they grow along with the wheat… so what if the wheat gets pulled up while ripping out the weeds…..call it cpola way.

  • cpola –
    can you point me at a source on the reduction of the Devil’s Advocate’s section? I’ve got an article on how Saints are made official, and as you might have noticed, I like updating them. 😀
    As far as redoing the canonizations– they can’t. It’s infallible.
    It might be that it’s one of those things where they’re preserved from error, though, and it’s not less objective than “general acclaim.”

  • The permission of God is necessary for the saints to appear and for the saints to work miracles. Mary said so, but I cannot point to the quote.

  • “The people who call John Paul II a catholic Saint will be given many lashes. The people who should know better, and still call John Paul II a Catholic Saint will be given the most number of lashes. The people who ignorantly call John Paul II a Catholic Saint will be given fewer lashes.”

    In a paragraph following, in cpola’s most quoted site; popeleo13, then states that we must; “all be vigilant and alert as the enemies of the salvation of Christ seek always to plant the Weeds in the midst of the Wheat.”

    This implication by cpola’s popeleo13 cherished site, blatantly accuses Saint Pope John II THE GREAT as being a sower of weeds.

    Well then cpola.
    If he was that evil in planting weeds then his fruit must be bad. I disagree with this.
    His fruit is good. Divine Mercy is a blossom which is developing into the conversion of many souls. I’ve witness this in person with four different families in fifteen years of service. Satan does not want souls to come to Christ….or is that a bad fruit. Conversions are what…bad?

    cpola.
    Go pull more wheat. Good luck.
    May you be fit to kiss the feet of the Saint you disgrace.

  • Only one of those says anything about the change you mentioned, and it says that the whole process was changed around– with some of the duties of the devil’s advocate being spread to the rest of the group. (Which seems quite reasonable, given that individuals can miss things.)
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    I would not trust that links’ authorial judgement, by the way; it says:
    Church canonized 480 saints from 1978 to 2005
    but mysteriously leaves out that 119 of those were at a single go, being the Martyrs of China. Another 24 were the Martyrs of Mexico. (year 2000)
    Another 8 Martyrs of Spain in ’90.
    116 Martyrs of Vietnam. (why, exactly, were 57 martyred bishops and priests ignored up to 1988? It’s not like they were NEW, some were over a century dead.)
    16 Martyrs of Japan. (’87– there was an entire genera of anime about this before the Church acknowledged them.)
    101 Korean Martyrs in ’84.
    As the second link says, martyrs’ miracles in 1907 could be like the one where my brakes went out, rather than the kid whose cancer disappeared. (second and first class, respectively)
    ***
    Yeah, when you’re recognizing that various areas have been martyring Catholics in job lots, you will rack up the numbers pretty dang fast.
    Unfortunately, the Vatican’s website is terrible for looking this stuff up– I could only find the list of those recognized by JPII– but this website does a decent job of showing them in a usable way.
    http://www.gcatholic.org/saints/jpii-saints1.htm
    I haven’t found one that shows the popes before that, though.
    ********
    Going off of who is bothering to have kids in the various parishes I’ve been in, recognizing the martyrs of various Asian countries has born good fruit. Seattle has a decent Asian population because of location, sure– but when I look around at Mass, I can’t help but notice that we’re one of the very, very few European looking families who are young enough to have kids, let alone who have them, while a whole lot of the (mostly Vietnamese) families are both the right age and actually have kids. They’re going against “their” non-Catholic culture there, too– there are a lot of girls, even if they’ve got older sisters and no brothers. This is not common in similar, non-Christian circles.

  • Great article, Foxfier!

    I think most miracles are messages to one person only. There is a very nice book by Ann Lawrence called BETWEEN THE FOREST AND THE HILLS in which the bishop ends up very frustrated because many events that he knows to be merely providential are counted as genuine miracles by his flock — miracles attributed to him, to his chagrin. When his faith begins to waiver and he cries out to God, he witnesses a Very Explicit Miracle — yet no one else notices. The message was for the bishop alone.

    The recent haste to declare, for example, John Paul II a saint is *unseemly*, but that does not bring into question its *validity*. It’s more on par with an ugly, modern church building: it satisfies the minimal requirements, but we should expect better.

    So yes, John Paul II is a saint, along with 81 other popes. His claim to be “THE GREAT” comes only from people like Philip, and I’m sorry, but that’s an extreme case of grade inflation. Can you HONESTLY imagine either Gregory the Great or Leo the Great kissing the Koran? Of course not! That, by the way, was a serious scandal in the proper sense of the word — maybe not for you or for me, but for Christians in the Middle East who have to pay a real price for rejecting the Koran in favor of the Gospel. John Paul II is a saint, but he made too many serious errors of judgment to be one of the handful called “the Great”.

  • I’m afraid I can’t agree that it was properly scandal, because kissing a book isn’t an inherent evil– a really, incredibly bad idea, on par with the current Pope letting word get out that he doesn’t wear a bulletproof vest, I’d say– and there are reasonable possibilities for why he’d do a morally neutral thing for good, such as signaling “we are not your enemy.” (Jimmy Akin has it broken down rather nicely here: http://jimmyakin.com/2006/04/jp2_and_the_qur.html )
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    Can you HONESTLY imagine either Gregory the Great or Leo the Great kissing the Koran?
    *Sad smile* Because of the state of the Church in America, I have only heard of those guys from my own reading. And not deeply.
    I can no more form a reasonable image of what they would or wouldn’t do than fly to the moon.
    One thing he did do was encourage young people, and faith-sharing that spawned EWTN and eventually sites like this very blog.
    And that is the only reason I’ve even brushed the robe’s hem for this stuff, why I heard of Bishop Sheen, why a dozen other things. Him standing up to the Evil Empire made my husband willing to listen, and brought him back to the Church that those following the old ways just sort of…dropped him out of.
    Just because it’s been a thousand years since a saint started being called “The Great” doesn’t invalidate the existing swell of general acclaim. Give it a few centuries, we’ll see if it sticks or not.

  • As for those who make a big deal out of the Saintly Pope kissing the Koran; Matthew 15:8-9: “These people honor me with there lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.”

    Don’t kiss the Koran!

    Oooohhh noooooo.

    Prayers for this current pontiff are being said, over and over and over……
    I’ll keep at it. Hope you will too.

  • Foxifier : “Just because it’s been a thousand years since a saint started being called “The Great” doesn’t invalidate the existing swell of general acclaim. Give it a few centuries, we’ll see if it sticks or not.”
    .
    There will be no few more centuries!
    People are out there – DEMANDING IN PUBLIC – to have sex with people of the same gender, just as they did at Sodomy.
    Read the signs of the times.
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2014/11/14/category-archive-message-board-175-jesus-end-time-hints/
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2014/12/29/category-archive-message-board-214-acceptable-year-of-the-lord/

  • There will be no few more centuries!
    People are out there – DEMANDING IN PUBLIC – to have sex with people of the same gender, just as they did at Sodom and Gomorrah.
    Read the signs of the times.
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2014/11/14/category-archive-message-board-175-jesus-end-time-hints/
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2014/12/29/category-archive-message-board-214-acceptable-year-of-the-lord/

  • To allude to a great man, what part of you shall not know the time was unclear? The apostles knew it could happen Any Day Now– but you think some guy on a message board is going to get the REAL scoop?
    And that’s before the issue at sodomy is, sadly, pretty normal– how did you manage to escape the scandal of one of our servicemen being discharged because he stopped the rape of a boy, which is ‘normal’ in many middle eastern cultures, cultures world wide? Sexual perversion is only so obvious here because we are the beneficiaries of centuries of Christian philosophy.
    The guys we’re fighting will slaughter those accused of being homosexuals, but still rape boys. A similar dynamic shows up in jails, where penetrating another man is not the same as being a ‘catcher.’

  • cpola… soothsayer.

    We have no positive way to know that; “There will be no few more centuries.”

    Will a nation be chastised for it’s National sins? Yes. Will it be within this century? Guessing Yes!

    Will the chastisement fall on a once Christian Nation that honored God by honoring the Son and Holy Spirit together? Three in one? Probably!

    The guess that we will not have centuries left is just a guess. A better assessment is that it will be America that becomes the example.
    Just as the chosen people were made an example of. The Church will take a beating but as long as it’s Christ’s Holy Church and as long as it takes for souls to be ready for His harvest, then the world as we know it will cease to exist.

    I hope your call to all faithful Catholic’s will help in gaining souls to Christ, and fill his barns. I hope it doesn’t discourage souls from joining the Church because it’s leadership is flawed and has been stained since V2, possibly changing the minds of thirsty souls, changing the direction of finding the living Waters in the Holy Catholic Church, but now doubting the well since your opinion is less than favorable of the Popes since V2.

    I take great relief in knowing that St. Pope John Paul the Great was without a doubt a prayerful and honest man. A man. Flawed and sinful but forgiven and merciful. A practitioner of Holy Catholic Church. A seminarian studying in clandestine times.
    Threatened by two of the worse regime’s ever to come to existence on this earth. Nazism and Communism. He survived both.
    He helped to collapse the latter, and was in a work camp of the former. He lived it.
    He is great because God worked through him as a humble oppressed pole that had Great Faith. Great faith. Can that be disputed?
    Sure……some will, but they do not know the man.

    Peace to you cpola.
    Peace.

  • People are out there – DEMANDING IN PUBLIC – to have sex with people of the same gender, just as they did at Sodom and Gomorrah.
    .
    The operative phrase: DEMANDING IN PUBLIC, Again: DEMANDING IN PUBLIC !
    .
    Give me a precedent in the history of humanity and then we can talk.

  • Give me a precedent in the history of humanity and then we can talk.

    Cpola, MY knowledge of history can come up with some, and I’m publicly educated!
    For heaven’s sake, the Romans and Greeks!

    You know, the ones that were around at that time? And in the area? And so public about it that there are surviving philosophical debates on if a woman is able to be companion the way a boy-toy would be, as well as procreation?

  • Here’s Plato on the subject:
    All the gods ought to have praise given to them, but not without distinction of their natures; and therefore I must try to distinguish the characters of the two Loves. Now actions vary according to the manner of their performance. Take, for example, that which we are now doing, drinking, singing and talking—these actions are not in themselves either good or evil, but they turn out in this or that way according to the mode of performing them; and when well done they are good, and when wrongly done they are evil; and in like manner not every love, but only that which has a noble purpose, is noble and worthy of praise. The Love who is the offspring of the common Aphrodite is essentially common, and has no discrimination, being such as the meaner sort of men feel, and is apt to be of women as well as of youths, and is of the body rather than of the soul—the most foolish beings are the objects of this love which desires only to gain an end, but never thinks of accomplishing the end nobly, and therefore does good and evil quite indiscriminately. The goddess who is his mother is far younger than the other, and she was born of the union of the male and female, and partakes of both. But the offspring of the heavenly Aphrodite is derived from a mother in whose birth the female has no part,—she is from the male only; this is that love which is of youths, and the goddess being older, there is nothing of wantonness in her. Those who are inspired by this love turn to the male, and delight in him who is the more valiant and intelligent nature; any one may recognise the pure enthusiasts in the very character of their attachments. For they love not boys, but intelligent beings whose reason is beginning to be developed, much about the time at which their beards begin to grow. And in choosing young men to be their companions, they mean to be faithful to them, and pass their whole life in company with them, not to take them in their inexperience, and deceive them, and play the fool with them, or run away from one to another of them. But the love of young boys should be forbidden by law, because their future is uncertain; they may turn out good or bad, either in body or soul, and much noble enthusiasm may be thrown away upon them; in this matter the good are a law to themselves, and the coarser sort of lovers ought to be restrained by force; as we restrain or attempt to restrain them from fixing their affections on women of free birth. These are the persons who bring a reproach on love; and some have been led to deny the lawfulness of such attachments because they see the impropriety and evil of them; for surely nothing that is decorously and lawfully done can justly be censured. Now here and in Lacedaemon the rules about love are perplexing, but in most cities they are simple and easily intelligible; in Elis and Boeotia, and in countries having no gifts of eloquence, they are very straightforward; the law is simply in favour of these connexions, and no one, whether young or old, has anything to say to their discredit; the reason being, as I suppose, that they are men of few words in those parts, and therefore the lovers do not like the trouble of pleading their suit. In Ionia and other places, and generally in countries which are subject to the barbarians, the custom is held to be dishonourable; loves of youths share the evil repute in which philosophy and gymnastics are held, because they are inimical to tyranny; for the interests of rulers require that their subjects should be poor in spirit (compare Arist. Politics), and that there should be no strong bond of friendship or society among them, which love, above all other motives, is likely to inspire, as our Athenian tyrants learned by experience; for the love of Aristogeiton and the constancy of Harmodius had a strength which undid their power. And, therefore, the ill-repute into which these attachments have fallen is to be ascribed to the evil condition of those who make them to be ill-reputed; that is to say, to the self-seeking of the governors and the cowardice of the governed; on the other hand, the indiscriminate honour which is given to them in some countries is attributable to the laziness of those who hold this opinion of them. In our own country a far better principle prevails, but, as I was saying, the explanation of it is rather perplexing. For, observe that open loves are held to be more honourable than secret ones, and that the love of the noblest and highest, even if their persons are less beautiful than others, is especially honourable. Consider, too, how great is the encouragement which all the world gives to the lover; neither is he supposed to be doing anything dishonourable; but if he succeeds he is praised, and if he fail he is blamed.
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1600/1600-h/1600-h.htm

  • By his reasoning, not only is homosexuality just fine and dandy, it’s superior.

    Several hundred years before Jesus.

  • Howard, my understanding is popes are entitled ‘ great’ , not because they did not make errors like Assissi , Pray for John the Baptist to Protect that abomination of desolation Islam things that you i and many others who are by definition their lessers, think are errors,’
    but Great because of their outstanding achievements and their lives of ‘ heroic’ virtue. Leo, Gregory, not Peter ……… I’ll leave it to higher pay grades to decide if JPII is a great or not- my dad suffered terribly under Jp’s weakness in making the Ancient Mass readily, easily available.

  • Foxifier, that was Plato philosophizing.
    But I am talking about the precedent of a society of men demanding the right to have sex with people of the same gender in the context of other members of the society frowning at such acts as evil.
    Not only do these people demand to have sex with persons of the same gender but they seek to lawfully and legally sanction those who reject or are opposed to such evil acts.
    Now give me a precedent.
    Otherwise what is happening now in our present world is the sign of the End-Time prophesied 2000 years ago by Our Lord Jesus.
    And remember that this phenomenon is now on a global scale not just in one or two small parts of the globe.
    In otherwords homosexuality (Sodomy) is to ancient Greece what cannibalism is to Papua New Guinea. But thanks be to God that cannibalism is not yet a phenomenon being DEMANDED IN PUBLIC by large swathes of humanity.

  • 76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal

    If locust was substituted for homosexuality, I’d say the days are shortening. The feeling that this plague is unstoppable. One thing.
    God hasn’t given up on man…..yet.

  • “But I am talking about the precedent of a society of men demanding the right to have sex with people of the same gender in the context of other members of the society frowning at such acts as evil.”

    Among aristocratic Greeks it was expected in most city states that a nobleman would have another nobleman, a teenager, as a lover. The Sacred Band military unit of Thebes was made up of such pairs. Lower class Greeks did not engage in such conduct and apparently made jokes about it. Men who engaged in such conduct would go on and get married and raise families. The Greeks had no concept of homosexuals as a separate class. Sodomy between two adult males was looked down upon by the Greeks. Male prostitutes were a feature of some ancient pagan temples and bordellos, as there is nothing new under the sun regarding sexual perversion.

    Pederasty in ancient Greece overall seems similar to that in prison today. Where women are absent, and among aristocratic families in Greece women were highly sheltered and men did not marry until their thirties, some men will look to each other. Some Greeks viewed the whole business as distasteful while others, including Plato attempted to elevate the business as superior to male women love. There was a fair amount of snobbishness in this, that pederasty could be looked upon as one more means by which aristocrats could separate themselves from the common herd. The Romans took all this as yet another sign that the Greeks were hopelessly decadent, although some of their aristocrats engaged in the vice.

    Of course to the Jews this was all an abomination and we see some of their typical outrage in what Saint Paul has to say on the subject.

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Papal Errors

Thursday, December 3, AD 2015

of the past.

I found it really interesting; some examples are this:

Pope Benedict IX (1032-44; 1045; 1047-8): Benedict IX was elected through bribes paid by his father. Kelly tells us that “his personal life, even allowing for exaggerated reports, was scandalously violent and dissolute.” The Catholic Encyclopedia judges: “He was a disgrace to the Chair of Peter.”

and

Pope Leo X (1513-21): Leo X is the pope who is famously said to have remarked: “Let us enjoy the papacy since God has given it to us.” Says the Catholic Encyclopedia:

[T]he phrase illustrates fairly the pope’s pleasure-loving nature and the lack of seriousness that characterized him. He paid no attention to the dangers threatening the papacy, and gave himself up unrestrainedly to amusements, that were provided in lavish abundance. He was possessed by an insatiable love of pleasure, that distinctive trait of his family. Music, the theatre, art, and poetry appealed to him as to any pampered worldling.

I do think it opens a bit weak, since Peter wasn’t the Pope before Christ was even crucified… but it’s justifiable.

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