Screen Pilates: Vincent Regan

Tuesday, April 11, AD 2017

 

 

Continuing our series on screen portrayals of Pilate that I began in 2011 during Holy Week.    The posts on portrayals of Pilate by Rod Steiger, Richard Boone, Barry Dennen, Hristov Shopov, Telly Savalas, Frank Thring, Stephen Russell, Greg Hicks, Cyril Richard, Stephen Moyer, Dennis King, Brian Mitchell, Leif Erickson, Peter Firth, David Bowie, Lowell Gilmore and Hurd Hatfield may be viewed  here, here, here, here  here , here, here, here, here , here , here, here, here , here , here , here and here.

A miniseries portrayal of Pilate by actor Vincent Regan, an Irish Catholic turned agnostic but who is a self-proclaimed “big fan” of both the Pope and Christ, in A.D. The Bible Continues, broadcast in 2016.   By the very nature of a miniseries Regan is given an opportunity for a fuller portrayal of Pilate by virtue of far more time on screen than the few minutes most actors portraying Pilate are allotted in a feature film.  I wish better use had been made of the time.

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Mirror, Mirror

Monday, April 10, AD 2017

 

The left in a nutshell:

 

Based on a brainchild of one its students, Laguna Hills High School officials had the mirrors taken out of the school’s girls’ bathrooms … and replaced with notes of “affirmation.”

The notes include little sayings such as “You are important” and “You are loved.”

Sabrina Astle, a member of the school “Kindness Club,” said she came up with the idea because she wanted to “make a difference.”

“[W]e had What if … Week,” Astle told ABC News. “Each day has a specific message. The message for Thursday, March 23, 2017, was ‘What if we showed more love?’

“The signs have helped people remember that everyone is beautiful, everyone is important, everyone is good enough and everyone should be treated equally. I did this because I am passionate about the fact that everyone is important and everyone needs to be cared for.”

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  • Quick! Ship The Bronze Girl (Facing-Down the Wall Street Bull) To Laguna High!

    FYI Three years later #BringBackOurGirls (hash-tag diplomacy!) has not saved any of 276 Nigerian girls kidnapped by Boko Haram.

    The left’s revised jihad prioritizes Muslims over women. Two-thirds of women have been harmed by feminism.

  • Great comment T.
    The left’s only source of power is that diabolical “party spirit” which they constantly feed and exercise. It is hard then to understand why they court Muslim believers- they can’t really hope that they will become party members in the same way they hope south and Central Americans will become Democrats. Or get them to join the Tolerant Nice and Kind to Everybody Club since they already show intolerance among and between themselves –
    As far as kindness goes, I just learned that S. Rice had some administrative duties concerning Africa during the Rwandan genocide, but was part of the team that chose Democratic politics over helping

  • T.Shaw, I cannot understand that statue at all. The Girl should be facing down the Bear. Facing down the Bull seems so anti-prosperity, as if she would rather welcome the Bear, and so it fits the mindset we have today.

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Just in Time for Easter

Monday, April 10, AD 2017

 

 

 

Like clockwork Copts are slaughtered by Jihadists as we approach Easter.  Dave Griffey at Daffey Thoughts prays for the victims:

 

As I’ve discovered, for some Christians in Islamic countries, Palm Sunday is the main celebration day.  That’s because of generations of regulations aimed at restricting their primary holy day of Easter.  I don’t know if that’s the case with Coptic Christians.  But it’s a reminder that as horrible as this is, it’s not unique, nor is it new.

I had the pleasure of speaking to several Syrian immigrants today.  Apparently they’ve not been able to tell their side of the story because they told it all to me.  Not sure what to do with their accounts, which included request for prayers for churches they attended that are gone, loved ones and friends who died horribly, or simply the ages and ages that their communities have lived under the specter of similar periods of oppression and persecution.

All I can say is that my thoughts and prayers go out to them.  In all due respect to Walt Disney, it’s actually a large world after all.  And nothing they told me today sounded at all like what I hear in our media or from our pols or designated ‘experts.’  I fear someday we Americans are going to be in for a rude awakening.    In the meantime, we can at least pray for and remember those whose celebrations were marred by death, and pray that today, those killed will be with Christ in paradise.

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  • But, but, but… It is a religion of peace! The Pope says so. Nothing to fear. Nothing to see.

    Really, sarcasm is inappropriate and the observations that “Muslim dominated” usually means “despised minority” for Christians, is spot on. It is just hard to take the new found adoration for Islam, by our Church, seriously. I am tired of hearing that Yahweh is just Allah by another name. Jehovah is God, Allah is, at best, a fiction.

    The ahoristicity of the claim that Islam is peaceful is really offensive. Without the sword, Islam would have been a bizarre footnote to history. 400 years of violence expanded the belief, NOT the rightness of its thinking. One might as well say that the Romans embraced the Visigoths… that would be about as right.

    I am sorry for the loss and fearful of the future and I have a hard time taking the claim that Islam is peaceful, seriously.

  • About the “Is Allah the same as God the Father question”
    from the First little letter of St John verse 23
    “No one who denies the Son has the Father; everyone who confesses the Son has the Father also.”

  • Islam is a seventh century heresy that may well have been relegated to the septic tank of history if not for Middle East oil.
    Who wants to move to an Islamic country? What can you do there to enjoy yourself? Those people are miserable and unproductive..

    Christianity in Europe successfully repelled Islam, only to embrace the lunatics of the Reformation and the DisEnlightenment.

  • About the “Is Allah the same as God the Father question”
    from the First little letter of St John verse 23
    “No one who denies the Son has the Father; everyone who confesses the Son has the Father also.”
    Allah has no son to love and no son to love him. Muslims are not the adopted children of Allah. Only the Blessed Trinity is a family of LOVE.

  • Thank you, Anzlyne. Islam is an evil, pagan cult. The Pope and much of the hierarchy are culpable for the lies they tell about it. Nothing will change until we speak the truth. The future does not belong to those fail to tell the truth about Islam.

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Screen Pilates: Hurd Hatfield

Monday, April 10, AD 2017

 

Continuing our series on screen portrayals of Pilate that I began in 2011 during Holy Week.    The posts on portrayals of Pilate by Rod Steiger, Richard Boone, Barry Dennen, Hristov Shopov, Telly Savalas, Frank Thring, Stephen Russell, Greg Hicks, Cyril Richard, Stephen Moyer, Dennis King, Brian Mitchell, Leif Erickson, Peter Firth, David Bowie and Lowell Gilmore may be viewed  here, here, here, here  here , here, here, here, here , here , here, here, here , here , here and here.

Of all the big budget Biblical epics of Hollywood, King of Kings (1961) gets the least respect and perhaps deservedly so.  The film is notable for being the first big budget Hollywood movie to depict Christ directly, with Jeffrey Hunter in the title role.  Although Hunter was the correct age, 33, he looked far younger and the film has sometimes been nicknamed “I Was A Teenage Christ”.

Veteran actor Hurd Hatfield portrayed Pilate.  It is an interesting portrayal with Pilate cool, haughty and officially correct in his examination of Christ and highly emotional behind the scenes.  Josephus depicts Pilate as being irascible and possessed of a violent temper and Hatfield gives us that dimension of Pilate.

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Screen Pilates: Richard Boone

Monday, April 10, AD 2017

Richard Boone

(I am republishing this from 2011.  When I first published it then the clip of Boone in the Robe as Pilate was not available on Youtube.  Besides, this has always been one of my favorite TAC posts.)

 

The second of our series on screen portrayals of Pontius Pilate is Richard Boone in the film The Robe (1953).  ( The portrayal of Pilate by Rod Steiger in Jesus of Nazareth (1977), the first in our series, is reviewed here.)  Descended from a younger brother of Daniel Boone, Boone, a Navy veteran of the Pacific during World War ii, studied acting on the GI bill.  Boone assayed the role of Pilate only three years into his career, but he already had the three traits that made him stand out as an actor:  a commanding presence, a deep gravelly voice and an ability to suggest that a character he is portraying is not as simple as we think at first glance.  Boone went on to be a western television star in the hit show Have Gun Will Travel (1957-1963) in which he played Paladin, a West Point graduate who fought for truth and justice in the old West, as long as his $1,000.00 fee was paid.  Boone portrayed Paladin as a well-educated man who would often draw upon his knowledge of history to win the day.  It was the favorite show of a very small Donald McClarey and no doubt helped inspire a love of history in me.  Here is the Paladin theme song which could be sung by almost all schoolboys in the early Sixties:

Alright, that is quite enough Memory Lane!  Back to the task at hand.   Below is  the video clip of Boone as Pilate.

We see Pilate washing his hands.  Tribune Gallio, portrayed by Richard Burton, has been ordered to report to Pilate.  Gallio is being summoned back to Rome.  However, Pilate has one task for him to perform before he leaves.  A routine assignment, the execution of three criminals.  One of them is a fanatic, who has a following and Gallio is told by Pilate to bring enough men to deal with trouble.  Pilate gives these orders in a clipped military style, wasting not a syllable.

Then, the unexpected happens.  Pilate confesses, almost talking to himself, that he had a miserable night, bedeviled by factions and no one agreeing with anyone, with even his wife having an opinion. (“Have nothing to do with that innocent man, because in a dream last night, I suffered much on account of him.”). Pilate then shakes off his reverie, and wishes Gallio good luck.  He then asks a slave to bring water to wash his hands, and is reminded that he has just washed his hands.

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  • Telly Sevalas also did a commendable performance in the role. From what we know of Romans and from Matthew’s account, I always thought his to be the most heartfelt though I think Boone’s better related to our present time.

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Triumph of the Cross

Sunday, April 9, AD 2017

In Hoc Signo Vinces

(This is my regular post for Palm Sunday which I repost each year.  Have a happy and blessed Palm Sunday and Holy Week.)

9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Sion, shout for joy, O daughter of Jerusalem: BEHOLD THY KING will come to thee, the just and saviour: he is poor, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. 10 And I will destroy the chariot out of Ephraim, and the horse out of Jerusalem, and the bow for war shall be broken: and he shall speak peace to the Gentiles, and his power shall be from sea to sea, and from the rivers even to the end of the earth.

Thus did the prophet Zechariah, writing half a millennium before, predict the entry of Christ into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday.  How many such glorious entrances into cities have there been over the ages?  Every civilization I am aware of has such ceremonies, either parades in peace time or entrances of conquest or liberation in war time.  The Romans turned this into an art form with their triumphs, with the reminder of the slave to the imperator of  fleeting human mortality: “Respice post te, hominem memento te”.

Few such triumphs have turned into utter disaster as quickly as that of Jesus:  Jerusalem at His feet on Sunday, and Christ dead on a Roman Cross before the sun had set on Friday.  Small wonder that no contemporary historian or chronicler at the time took note.  However some sort of official report probably was filed after the crucifixion.  Writing circa 116 AD, and relying heavily on official records for his history, in regard to the great fire at Rome under Emperor Nero Tacitus states:

“15.44.2. But, despite kindly influence, despite the leader’s generous handouts, despite appeasing the gods, the scandal did not subside, rather the blaze came to be believed to be an official act. So, in order to quash the rumour, Nero blamed it on, and applied the cruelest punishments to, those sinners, whom ordinary people call Christians, hating them for their shameful behaviour. 15.44.3. The originator of this name, Christ, was sentenced to torture by Procurator Pontius Pilate, during the reign of Tiberius, but although checked for a moment, the deadly cult erupted again, not just in Judaea, the source of its evil, but even in Rome, where all the sins and scandals of the world gather and are glorified.”

Tacitus, clearly hostile to the Christians, points his finger at one of the great mysteries of history.  In human terms the Jesus movement was nipped in the bud at its inception.  Yet in less than three centuries the Roman emperor bowed before the cross.  The triumph of Palm Sunday led only to disaster, and the humiliation and death of the cross led to triumph in eternity and here on Earth.

For we Catholics, and for all other Christians, no explanation of this paradoxical outcome is needed.  However there is much here to ponder for non-believers and non-Christians.  In purely human terms the followers of Christ had no chance to accomplish anything:  no powerful supporters, no homeland embracing their faith, cultures, both Jewish and Gentile, which were hostile to the preaching of the Gospels, other religions which were well-established, the list of disadvantages could go on at considerable length.  We take the victory of Christianity for granted because it happened.  We forget how very improbable such a victory was. Even more improbable is that what began on Palm Sunday, the triumph of Jesus, has continued till today in spite of all challenges that two thousand years of human folly could cast up.  How very peculiar in mortal terms!

Let us give the last word to the patron saint of paradox G. K. Chesterton:

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April 9, 1865: Palm Sunday at Appomatox

Sunday, April 9, AD 2017

It is poor business measuring the mouldered ramparts and counting the silent guns, marking the deserted battlefields and decorating the grassy graves, unless we can learn from it some nobler lesson than to destroy.  Men write of this, as of other wars, as if the only thing necessary to be impressed upon the rising generation were the virtue of physical courage and contempt of death.  It seems to me that is the last thing we need to teach;  for since the days of John Smith in Virginia and the men of the Mayflower in Massachusetts, no generation of Americans has shown any lack of it.  From Louisburg to Petersburg-a hundred and twenty years, the full span of four generations-they have stood to their guns and been shot down in greater comparative numbers than any other race on earth.  In the war of secession there was not a State, not a county, probably not a town, between the great lakes and the gulf, that was not represented on fields where all that men could do with powder and steel was done and valor exhibited at its highest pitch…There is not the slightest necessity for lauding American bravery or impressing it upon American youth.  But there is the gravest necessity for teaching them respect for law, and reverence for human life, and regard for the rights of their fellow country-men, and all that is significant in the history of our country…These are simple lessons, yet they are not taught in a day, and some who we call educated go through life without mastering them at all.

Rossiter Johnson, Campfire and Battlefield, 1884

I have always thought it appropriate that the national nightmare we call the Civil War ended during Holy Week 1865.  Two remarkably decent men, Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant, began the process of healing so desperately needed for America on Palm Sunday, April 9, 1865 at Appomattox.  We take their decency for granted, but it is the exception and not the rule for the aftermath of civil wars in history.  The usual course would have been unremitting vengeance by the victors, and sullen rage by the defeated, perhaps eventually breaking out in guerilla war.  The end of the Civil War could so very easily have been the beginning of a cycle of unending war between north and south.  Instead, both Grant and Lee acted to make certain as far as they could that the fratricidal war that had just concluded would not be repeated.  All Americans owe those two men a large debt for their actions at Appomattox.

Grant recalled the surrender:

APPOMATTOX C. H., VA.,
Ap l 19th, 1865.

GEN. R. E. LEE,
Comd’g C. S. A.
GEN: In accordance with the substance of my letter to you of the 8th inst., I propose to receive the surrender of the Army of N. Va. on the following terms, to wit: Rolls of all the officers and men to be made in duplicate. One copy to be given to an officer designated by me, the other to be retained by such officer or officers as you may designate. The officers to give their individual paroles not to take up arms against the Government of the United States until properly exchanged, and each company or regimental commander sign a like parole for the men of their commands. The arms, artillery and public property to be parked and stacked, and turned over to the officer appointed by me to receive them. This will not embrace the side-arms of the officers, nor their private horses or baggage. This done, each officer and man will be allowed to return to their homes, not to be disturbed by United States authority so long as they observe their paroles and the laws in force where they may reside.
Very respectfully,
U. S. GRANT,
Lt. Gen.

When I put my pen to the paper I did not know the first word that I should make use of in writing the terms. I only knew what was in my mind, and I wished to express it clearly, so that there could be no mistaking it. As I wrote on, the thought occurred to me that the officers had their own private horses and effects, which were important to them, but of no value to us; also that it would be an unnecessary humiliation to call upon them to deliver their side arms.

No conversation, not one word, passed between General Lee and myself, either about private property, side arms, or kindred subjects. He appeared to have no objections to the terms first proposed; or if he had a point to make against them he wished to wait until they were in writing to make it. When he read over that part of the terms about side arms, horses and private property of the officers, he remarked, with some feeling, I thought, that this would have a happy effect upon his army.

Then, after a little further conversation, General Lee remarked to me again that their army was organized a little differently from the army of the United States (still maintaining by implication that we were two countries); that in their army the cavalrymen and artillerists owned their own horses; and he asked if he was to understand that the men who so owned their horses were to be permitted to retain them. I told him that as the terms were written they would not; that only the officers were permitted to take their private property. He then, after reading over the terms a second time, remarked that that was clear.

I then said to him that I thought this would be about the last battle of the war—I sincerely hoped so; and I said further I took it that most of the men in the ranks were small farmers. The whole country had been so raided by the two armies that it was doubtful whether they would be able to put in a crop to carry themselves and their families through the next winter without the aid of the horses they were then riding. The United States did not want them and I would, therefore, instruct the officers I left behind to receive the paroles of his troops to let every man of the Confederate army who claimed to own a horse or mule take the animal to his home. Lee remarked again that this would have a happy effect.

He then sat down and wrote out the following letter:
HEADQUARTERS ARMY OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA,
April 9, 1865.

GENERAL:—I received your letter of this date containing the terms of the surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia as proposed by you. As they are substantially the same as those expressed in your letter of the 8th inst., they are accepted. I will proceed to designate the proper officers to carry the stipulations into effect.
R. E. LEE, General.

LIEUT.-GENERAL U. S. GRANT.

While duplicates of the two letters were being made, the Union generals present were severally present to General Lee.

The much talked of surrendering of Lee’s sword and my handing it back, this and much more that has been said about it is the purest romance. The word sword or side arms was not mentioned by either of us until I wrote it in the terms. There was no premeditation, and it did not occur to me until the moment I wrote it down. If I had happened to omit it, and General Lee had called my attention to it, I should have put it in the terms precisely as I acceded to the provision about the soldiers retaining their horses.

General Lee, after all was completed and before taking his leave, remarked that his army was in a very bad condition for want of food, and that they were without forage; that his men had been living for some days on parched corn exclusively, and that he would have to ask me for rations and forage. I told him “certainly,” and asked for how many men he wanted rations. His answer was “about twenty-five thousand;” and I authorized him to send his own commissary and quartermaster to Appomattox Station, two or three miles away, where he could have, out of the trains we had stopped, all the provisions wanted. As for forage, we had ourselves depended almost entirely upon the country for that.

 

Grant in his memoirs wrote, When Lee and I separated he went back to his lines and I returned to the house of Mr. McLean. Here the officers of both armies came in great numbers, and seemed to enjoy the meeting as much as though they had been friends separated for a long time while fighting battles under the same flag.”

Lee so appreciated the generosity of the terms of surrender given by Grant, that for the remainder of his life he would never allow a word of denigration about Grant to be spoken in his presence.

 

(Grant) rode on toward his headquarters tent, which had been found at last, along with his baggage, and pitched nearby. He had not gone far before someone asked if he did not consider the news of Lee’s surrender worth passing on to the War Department. Reining his horse in, he dismounted and sat on a large stone by the roadside to compose the telegram Lincoln would receive that night. By the time he remounted to ride on, salutes were beginning to roar from Union batteries roundabout, and he sent word to have them stopped, not only because he feared the warlike racket might cause trouble between the victors and the vanquished, both of them still with weapons in their hands, but also because he considered it unfitting. “The war is over,” he told his staff. “The rebels are our countrymen again.”

Shelby Foote, The Civil War:  A Narrative, volume III

 

 

 

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  • In World War 2, there was a General Simon Bolivar Buckner who was killed in the invasion of Okinawa. I believe he was the highest ranking officer killed in that war.

    Both Buckners were named for The Liberator, Simon Bolivar, who despite having little military experience, successfully led the war for Independence for Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador against the Spanish Empire. Bolivar was a far better military leader than he was a politician. Having said that, a statue of Bolivar, and San Martin as well, is prominently displayed in Washington, DC. There are assorted little towns and streets named for Bolivar through the US.

  • Correct about Simon Bolivar Buckner being the highest ranking officer killed in WW2. He was also the son of Gen. Buckner who was a pallbearer at Grant’s funeral in 1885.

Not My Paws Only But All of Me!

Saturday, April 8, AD 2017

 

 

Larry D at Acts of the Apostasy brings us this news:

 

ROME – Reports from the Vatican indicate that Pope Francis has scheduled a stop at a local animal shelter to wash the paws of 12 dogs on Holy Thursday, after washing inmates’ feet at an Italian prison.

Church officials told the AoftheA News Vatican Bureau that Pope Francis is excited to visit the dogs spending the Easter holiday at the shelter, and extend this act of mercy towards them. It’s unsure if he will wash all four paws, or just their front paws.

“His Holiness feels that dogs deserve to be treated this way, as it’s quite evident that Jesus had a soft spot in his heart for dogs,” one official said, speaking under condition of anonymity. “You see in scripture how dogs cared for Lazarus by licking his sores, showing that they lived their Christian faith better than others at that time. You see how the Canaanite woman changed Jesus’ mind when she said ‘even dogs eat scraps that fall from their master’s table’. Plus, it wasn’t that long ago that Pope Francis declared that dogs indeed go to heaven, so it’s entirely appropriate to being Christ, and bringing Christ, to them.”

Another official said the Holy Father believes Christ’s mercy is available to every living thing, including those with mange, hip dysplasia, or worms. “Jesus didn’t come for the healthy, but for the sick. His Holiness reminds us, though, to be wary of those ridden with fleas, for if you lie with them, you will certainly rise with them and be infested.”

Animal activists are pleased with the Holy Father’s plans, and that he will be raising animal rights awareness. Amanda Hugginkhyss, director of “Animals Are People Too”, said it’s a strong sign Pope Francis is making the Catholic Church a more inclusive place. “Is what he’s doing perfect? No, but it’s a start, and like all progressive initiatives, all we hope for is a crack through which we can infiltrate, and then start making our demands for animal rights in the church.”

When asked why cats housed at the shelter aren’t included, one official told AoftheA News: “Cats are evil, that’s why.”

He also confirmed that Pope Francis’ favorite movie is “All Dogs Go To Heaven”, but wasn’t all that impressed with the sequel.

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  • Please tell me this is a late April Fools joke. Or an Eye of the Tiber gotcha.

  • LarryD does humorous pieces Elizabeth. Doesn’t it speak volumes about this ponticate that one could imagine this as as being a straight news story?

  • Yes, it sure does. I woke up this morning and thought of my comment of yesterday and started feeling a bit foolish that I even considered that this was for real. Strange times indeed.
    Is that site, Acts of the Apostasy, kind of like The Onion or Eye of the Tiber then? I’ve heard of it but never looked at it.

  • Does that raccoon have any nukes? If so would that complicate the feet washing?

  • “Is that site, Acts of the Apostasy, kind of like The Onion or Eye of the Tiber then? I’ve heard of it but never looked at it.”

    LarryD is a faithful Catholic and a good writer, along with a delicious sense of humor.

  • Funny bit… the “Animals are people too,” is sadly a social justice mantra being absorbed by progressives who refuse to respect the unborn human life but gladly bemoan the abuses of dogs or cats that are “suffering.”
    I like pets however to give them a status above the sacredness of unborn human life is pathetic. A sure sign of a culture without a clue. A blackened and stained culture.

  • The Pope has decided to cancel the foot washing ceremony at the pound, citing fears of getting bit in the ass from a rabid dog-ma.

  • However, Pope Francis has agreed to administer last rites to a Self-Absorbed Promethean Neopelagian pooch that is scheduled to be put down that day.

  • Greg Mockeridge.

    The pooch in question was caught “breeding like rabbits,” and didn’t heed his Holiness command to “practice responsible parenthood.”

    Hence the decision to put the pooch down.

PopeWatch: Checkmate

Saturday, April 8, AD 2017

 

From the only reliable source of Catholic news on the net, Eye of the Tiber:

 

Society of St. Pius X chess grandmaster Larcel Mafebvre has turned four of his pieces into bishops without approval from the World Chess Federation, officials have confirmed.

“Mr. Mafebvre has, without approval from the Federation, created bishops out of pawn pieces,” said World Chess Federation head Antonio Salamanca. “After speaking with Mr. Mafebvre regarding abiding by the new chess rules, wherein players are given the freedom to concelebrate the match, and to say the words of ‘checkmate’ in the vernacular, he has sadly decided to ignore our requests.”

Salamanca went on to tell reporters that Mafebvre had automatically incurred excheckommunication because of his disobedience.

“I must do what is in my conscience to preserve the dignity of the game,”  Mafebvre told EOTT in an exclusive interview. “Therefore, I have decided to consecrate four of my pieces into bishops to help my depleted side, for, from some Fischer, the smoke of Satan has entered the chessboard of God.”

At press time, one time follower of Larcel Mafebvre’s, Bavid Dawden, told EOTT that he has decided to become head of the World Chess Federation, though he only has three pawns to play with.

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Over There

Saturday, April 8, AD 2017

 

Something for the weekend, Over There, the anthem of the American war effort in World War I.

My friend and co-blogger Darwin Catholic at The American Catholic put together the above video, which I believe is one of the best videos I have seen on World War I.  George M. Cohan of course wrote Over There, the song which became the battle hymn of the American war effort in World War I.  George M. Cohan was immortalized by James Cagney in the 1942 film biopic Yankee Doodle Dandy.  Dying on November 5, 1942 of stomach cancer, Cohan saw the film shortly before its release in a private screening.  I do not know if the ending of the film in the clip below brought tears to his eyes, but it always does mine:

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  • “And we won’t come back ’til it’s over over there.”

    General Pershing was finally able to “unify” the AEF under his command and led 1,200,000 Americans in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive (26 September to 11 November 1918) which beat up the Germans and helped seal the armistice. The objective was to cut the railways supplying the Hun at the front. Casualties were 120,000 KIA/WIA (10%). The actions were notable for dashing open-field tactics and liberal employment of the bayonet. Sergeant York made his name during this fight.

    Book recommendation: The Doughboys by Laurence Stallings. Pershing was highly aggressive and he demanded the same from his officers.

  • What brings tears to my eyes is the fact that US involvement in World War I insured the demise of what was left of Christian Europe. That involvement also led to a profound change for the Catholic Church in the USA as Cardinal Gibbons made a point to throw the support of the Church behind Wilson and his desire for war instead of supporting the peace efforts of the Pope as Christopher Manion and others have written about elsewhere. That lockstep of Church and State has continued to the present day when many people consider the Catholic Church the Democratic Party at Prayer.

  • “What brings tears to my eyes is the fact that US involvement in World War I insured the demise of what was left of Christian Europe.”
    How? The Bolsheviks would have come to power in any case in Russia. The German offensive in March 1918 prior to many US troops being on the ground in Europe failed, so the Central Powers were almost certainly going to lose even if the US had not intervened, although the War likely would have continued into either 1919 or 1920 with millions more dead. Viewing either Imperial Germany or Imperial Austria-Hungary as champions of Christendom in the nineteenth and twentieth century up to 1914 is simply mistaken. Both entities were fully affected by the forces that modernity was unleashing throughout Europe.

  • WW I was the most senseless, useless and in the long term, damaging war in European history. It is the root cause of everything that has gone wrong on that continent since. US involvement, while arguably necessary because of German predation on our shipping, could have been handled much differently and better. Does anyone seriously think that had Teddy Roosevelt won the election in 1912 that Germany would have dared to commit the acts of war against the US? And when we were finished joining in the destruction of Europe, we were cast aside like a used rag doll. Members of my family who stayed while the rest of the family emigrated to the US, fought on both sides of the conflict and were never heard from again. Having begun the insanity, Europe and the world would have been better served had all parties been allowed to collapse from sheer exhaustion and we could have avoided our share of responsibility for the debacle.

So Much For the Trump as Pawn of Putin Meme

Friday, April 7, AD 2017

 

  When Senator Hayne of South Carolina told Senator Benton of Missouri that he doubted if Jackson would really hang anyone, Benton, a good friend of Jackson and a man who had shot him in a brawl, one of many such affrays Jackson was involved in during his life, in 1813 before they became friends, told him that “When Jackson begins to talk about hanging, they can begin to look out for ropes”. 

Donald R. McClarey, The Devil and Andrew Jackson

 

Trump launching a Tomahawk strike on a Syrian airbase demonstrates the true idiocy of the idea that Trump is a pawn of Putin.  Trump is his own man as Putin now realizes.  Trump may well be a President who does what he says he will do.  Americans, and our enemies abroad, should take note.  Trump has placed a portrait of Andrew Jackson  in the Oval Office, and I don’t think it is mere decoration but a signal to our enemies and our friends.

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  • Hope and Change! Fundamentally Transformed!

    So much for red lines in the sand and Obamas’ Arab Spring. Reach out and touch someone.

    Noriega had his Reagan. Saddam had his both Bushes. Saddat has his Trump.

    “Even peace may be purchased at too high a price.” – Benjamin Franklin. At times killing people can help matters.

  • Without commenting on the morality of his choice, this certainly does two things; 1) it tells China, Iran, Russia and N. Korea, that there will be an immediate cost to pay if you continue thinking you can do your evil unopposed. 2) Conversely, we may find out that such an act has consequences that we aren’t prepared for.
    I’m glad I’m not the president who is forced to make these lose/lose decisions.
    If the left insists that Trump did this to prove he’s not in bed with Putin, then they can only blame themselves for starting the lie for political gain. Lying does have consequences.

  • Looks like the Neo-Cons are back in control. Graham and McCain are happy.
    Wars and rumors of wars!
    🙁

  • Actually, this is Trump doing what he said he would NOT do, intervene militarily in situations like this. This is the same Donald Trump who, during the GOP primaries no less, dutifully parroted the left’s slander of Bush lying about WMDs in Iraq. Oh, how quickly we forget!

    While we are on the subject of things disappearing down memory holes, this is the same President Trump who drew moral equivalence between us and Russia and Bush and Putin.

    If this is the first step in an effective effort to loosen Russia’s foothold in the Middle East, then yes we can say Trump’s infatuation is no more. But to say that this ALONE achieves that is nonsense.

  • A statement to the world, that Trump is not Obama. There is no question that the world lost respect for America under Obama with his multiple ‘lines in the sand’ moving ever backwards, and his weak foreign policy. This was certainly a measured response that makes a statement, and it is not anywhere near before time.
    America can start again to make claim to be the leader of the free world – because that was sadly lacking over the past 8 years.

  • Tovarich Greg, It’s going to be a hard eight years. “Associate Justice Gorsuch” sounds great, too.

    Trump isn’t Crooked Hillary. I’m still ecstatic.

    People’s expounding (beating a dead horse) utterly unfounded Russia/Trump nothings is more proof that the left has lost its collectivist mind.

  • I think I understand some of the reasons for the attack but I still think it ill-advised.

    Syria is a critical Russian client state. The RussIan navy needs it and Russia won’t let her Syrian ports go easily.

    Yes, Assad is a complete bastard and I do not doubt that he will leave this life unredeemed. (I pray I am wrong.) The thing is that some pieces of this planet cannot BE ruled with other than an iron fist. Since out regional interests are, to my mind, in stability, it seems better to let him remain as a Russian puppet and focus on ISIS/ISIL.

    There was an idiotic naiveté to the Obamazing foreign policy, such as it was. I want Trump to be as pragmatic in foreign policy as he is in his businesses. If this is a gesture, fine. No problem. Gestures have value in practical situation management. But, please let this not be Obama Foreign Policy Idiocy, Part II.

  • I agree with Dave Spaulding above. I add this quote:

    “Whenever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will be America’s heart, her benedictions and her prayers. But she does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the wellwisher to freedom and independence for all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She well knows that by once enlisting other banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extridition, in all wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom….She might become the dictress of the world but would no longer be ruler of her own spirit….Americans should not go abroad to slay dragons they do not understand in the name of spreading democracy.”
    __John Quincy Adams__ As Secretary of State

  • Ah, the dangers of taking isolated quotes as Gospel. Adams also authored the Monroe Doctrine which basically told the rest of the world that the Western Hemisphere was American turf.

    The simple truth is that American intervention overseas has always had two components: idealism and self interest. Where either element is lacking it is hard for American resolve to last in an overseas venture.

  • As much as I think Trump is lacking in impulse control, I don’t think even he would have ordered those strikes without solid evidence that it was in fact Assad who gassed that village.

  • Donald R McClarey wrote: “Ah, the dangers of taking isolated quotes as Gospel.”

    Damn! Beat me to the punch Maister McC! 🙂

  • Furthermore, the tag, “says U.N. Official” by itself ought to cast doubt on the credibility of the claim that preceded it.

  • First, I respect Trump and I understand his reasons for bombing Syria. He is a far better President than Obama was or Hillary would have been. I have nothing against Trump. But, this decision is still wrong.

    “Del Ponte has been singing that song since 2013. I would not trust her if she claimed that fire burns. She is a stooge for Russia…”

    I do not know anything about Del Ponte. I have simply been seeing many articles questioning why Assad would do something so foolish as to gas his own people at a time like this. And I have seen other articles where some Christians living in Syria maintain that the rebels did their own gassing. I suppose the retort will be these people making such assertions are stooges of the Russian Orthodox Church. Truly I do not know. But I still say that I agree with that isolated quote from John Quincy Adams. I see no good coming out of this ever brewing conflict.

    Now perhaps as other theorize Trump did this to send a strong message to Russia, China, Iran and N. Korea that weak kneed, yellow bellied, cowardly Obama is not in charge. Again, I do not know. But what happens when a secretive diesel electric submarine of an unknown foreign national running ultra quietly on its batteries lodges a torpedo in one of our aircraft carriers in the region. We’ll be crying what Augustus did so long ago, “Quintili Vare, legiones redde!” Except we may never know in such a case who “took the legions.” Iran, Russia, etc……..

    PS, I also see my other comment deleted. I understand. Comparing the different methods of infanticide that show many in our country are no better than many in the Syria is an unpopular and non-politically correct statement.

  • Trump has rocked people on their heels. Now we wait to see what comes next.

  • I’ve been pretty torn up over this situation, and I see both sides. Though I was on the “Trump Train” back in 2011 before there ever was a train, I don’t blindly go along with everything he says or does. I happen to be Catholic, and I am an ex journalist. Perhaps I should’ve given up news and politics for lent. It’s not necessarily a healthy addiction.

PopeWatch: Malta

Friday, April 7, AD 2017

Lifesite News is reporting that Pope Francis gave a pat on the back to the bishops of Malta:

 

According to a Maltese news outlet, Pope Francis thanked the Catholic bishops of Malta for their interpretation of Amoris Laetitia, which says active adulterers may receive Holy Communion if they feel “at peace with God.”

Newsbook reported that Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops, recently sent the Maltese bishops a letter on behalf of Pope Francis.

The Malta bishops’ guidelines opened the door to Communion for Catholics in adulterous unions, saying it might be “humanly impossible” to follow Church teaching and live chastely while civilly remarried. The guidelines also suggest that a couple in an invalid union might “give rise to greater harm” by not committing adultery.

The Catholic Church teaches that marriage is permanent and lifelong, making “remarriage” an impossibility unless the previous union is declared “null.” The Catholic Church also teaches that the Eucharist is the literal body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ, so only Catholics in a “state of grace” may receive it. Catholics are supposed to go to Confession before receiving Holy Communion if they have committed serious (mortal) sin. Those who are divorced and civilly remarried must live as “brother and sister” in order to receive the Sacraments.

Shortly after their release, the Vatican’s semi-official newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, published the Maltese bishops’ guidelines

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  • “The guidelines also suggest that a couple in an invalid union might “give rise to greater harm” by not committing adultery..” If there is threat of violence, then there is one criminal and one victim, and there is NO marriage. A person promises to love the spouse. With assault and battery, the batterer is a liar., and hell is full of liars.

  • So Henry VIII was correct after all and all those heroic men and women who died as martyrs defending the Church were wrong?

    I understand how people can get themselves into difficult situations. Example: A first wife abandons her husband (or vice versa), takes the kids with her and unilaterally destroys the marriage, co-habitating with a live-in partner. The man (or vice versa, woman) is devastated with grief, his life (or hers) wrecked and sadness at every turn. Then after years of loneliness he (or alternatively she) meets someone else who will love him (or her) and they get married. Yes, messed up, totally. But it happens. Yet the Church should not change rules just because people fail. Yes, that man and woman should live in abstinence from sexual activity, otherwise no Sacraments. And yes, we all understand the devastation that loneliness from a unilateral decision to divorce and destroy causes. But God cannot change the rules just because we get all screwed up over a circumstance.

    I really despise this Pope. Sorry. I cannot help it. He is a hypocrite. I live with regulations every day in my work life. The USNRC doesn’t change its regulatory guidance just because a Licensee may find a particular regulation onerous and burdensome. Why? Public health and safety, that’s why. So how is it that spiritual health and safety are not of equal value in the Pope’s eyes?

  • This has never been about divorce and “remarriage”. Rather it is an unconditional surrender to modernity. “humanly impossible” can and has been applied to contraception, abortion and any other of the numerous below the belt sins.

    Second, as many people who are much smarter than me have stated, this is about the destruction of the sacraments. No longer will one need a firm purpose of amendment for confession. No longer will a person have to be free from mortal sin to receive the Eucharist. No longer will marriage be a life long commitment.

    So, yes, this pope is a scoundrel who has inflicted grave damage to the Church, but it will survive.

  • Cardinal Napier spelled it out simply but unfortunately our Pope is “fashionable.”
    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2017/01/06/an-african-cardinal-asks-a-good-question-what-about-communion-for-polygamists/

    “The Church has no fashion’s. The Church is Always The Same.” – BVM (emphasis added.)
    http://www.dominicansavrille.us/those-who-serve-god-should-not-follow-the-fashions-part-2-of-2/

    Wake up dear Pope.
    Your becoming an example.

  • Most of the link speaks of attire, however it’s the last segment that speaks to my heart of unworthy fashions that includes disordered conduct. The Lord doesn’t change, neither should our Church.

  • God will not tempt you beyond your ability to obey his law.

  • Note to Pope: Since you are taking all the controversy (what Jesus taught) out of Catholicism I guess we are all Protestants now. Right?

  • Question. If a couple were married not in the Church, is that marriage considered one Jesus is referring to as well? Is such a couple brought together by God?

  • For a marriage of a Catholic to be recognized by the Church, generally the marriage must have been performed by a Catholic Church and whomever the a Catholic is marrying must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, & the Holy Ghost.

5 Responses to Requiescat In Pace: Don Rickles

  • RIP, funny man. I think about people who got a smile out of him, when things were pretty bleak. People who knew him said he was a nice man.

    Only thing, I doubt he would have roasted Chuck Norris.

  • Growing up and watching him slam his peers was gut splitting funny. Quick and to the core he had incredible timing and wit. Indeed, Rest in Peace Mr. Rickles.

  • Rickles was funny without being vulgar. Nobody roasts Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris does not roast Chuck Norris.

  • Pickles, like so many of the great comedians, had a sense of the absurd. We laughed because he told the truth about our common humanity with
    barbs that had no sting.

  • Here he is roasting then-Gov. Ronald Reagan. Rickles could target someone with insult humor without making them feel insulted.

    https://youtu.be/ZblPwNLH6hg

April 6, 1917: Congress Declares War on Germany

Thursday, April 6, AD 2017

WHEREAS, The Imperial German Government has committed repeated acts of war against the people of the United States of America; therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Imperial German Government, which has thus been thrust upon the United States, is hereby formally declared; and that the President be, and he is hereby, authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial German Government; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination all the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.

The Declaration of War against Imperial Germany in 1917 was highly popular among the American people in general, so it is not surprising that the votes in each chamber of Congress were lopsided.  In the Senate on April 4 the vote was 82-6 with eight senators not voting.  On April 6 the House passed the Declaration of War 373 to 50.

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  • Don

    My Grandmother, when she was a teenager, campaigned hard for Woodrow Wilson because he kept us out of war. A month and two days after the beginning of his sec0nd term we declared war.

    In all her 90 years she never voted for a democrat for President..

  • My early 1960’s, HS US history text says that April 6, 1917 was Good Friday. The war declaration and subsequent League of Nations (Gross Britanien also would have its five Dominions voting) boondoggles were unpopular with Irish- and German-Americans, plus the extant isolationist bent.

    In November 1916, it was “He kept us out of war.” Hey, it’s what politicians, especially progressive politicians, do. Similarly in the run-up to November 1932, FDR promised not to do anything with US gold. In April 1933, by executive order, FDR confiscated, er, forced the surrender of, all monetary gold (coins) in the US and it a crime to possess it. Later in 1933 or 4, FDR ordered removed from Federal Reserve Notes (what you believe is money, but is the World’s reserve currency) the promissory statement, “Will Pay to The Bearer ## Dollars.”

    Wilson! What would we do without the Federal income tax and the Federal Reserve? They were necessary for WWI and WWII.

  • Similarly in the run-up to November 1932, FDR promised not to do anything with US gold. In April 1933, by executive order, FDR confiscated, er, forced the surrender of, all monetary gold (coins) in the US and it a crime to possess it.

    There’s a reason you don’t announce a currency devaluation five months in advance. Even a rumor of one can induce a run, which is what the country was coping with for the four months prior to Roosevelt’s inauguration. A devaluation of the currency and expansion of the monetary base was very much in order in the Spring of 1933 and proved quite tonic. Britain devalued its currency in September 1931 and began it’s economic recovery right away. The U.S. economy careered downhill for another 18 months.

I Resemble That Remark

Thursday, April 6, AD 2017

 

 

From LarryD at Acts of the Apostasy:

 

Horace MacTaverson, long time parishioner at Our Lady of Special Occasions, told AoftheA News this morning that he’s mighty unhappy it’s likely he won’t get to park in his regular spot this Easter.

“First row, next to the last handicap space,” he growled. “8:30 Mass, every Sunday mornin’, for the past thirty-one years.” Horace stared off into the distance and noisily clicked his partial upper plate. “Except on Easter. And that one time it snowed so hard I couldn’t make it up the drive, but that don’t count none.”

He narrowed his eyes. “Those dang Chreasters, showin’ up two times a year, actin’ like they own the place, parkin’ wherever they dang well feel like it,” he grumbled. “No respect, I tell ya. No respect!”

Horace ran his weathered hand through his sparse hair. “This is gonna mess up my mornin’ schedule. Instead of arrivin’ at ten minutes past the hour like always, I hafta get here at ten minutes before the hour, and even that’s no guar-own-tee my spot won’t be taken!”

His jaw clenched. “Just thinkin’ about this is gettin’ my goat. My whole Sunday mornin’ routine is gonna get screwed up. I hope Father says sumthin’ about this in his sermon, give these Chreasters the ol’ what for. Downright rude, coming to Easter Mass and makin’ me park somewhere else. But he’ll prob’bly just talk about love, and peace, and other stuff like that.”

Horace wagged his index finger. “And don’t get me started about my seat being taken neither! Third row, on the aisle, behind the Pattersons.” His shoulders shook with a violent quiver. “God, Easter is the worst.”

 

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  • Even though a Protestant my father attended Mass on his own when he travelled in the Air Force; invited missionaries to our quarters when stationed overseas, in fact, had many priest friends; and insisted that my brother and I attend Catholic school. After every Sunday Mass at St. Thomas More we’d be sitting in traffic which would trigger his tangent about the “so-called Christians in the parking lot.” He couldn’t understand how Catholics could receive Christ at Mass and then afterwards be so rude exiting the parking lot. He always said it was a factor in delaying his conversion. He joined the church at age 55. Died at age 90. We all still miss him 13 years later.

  • This is why I almost always park on the street when I go to Mass.

  • Eye contact seems to be a big plus… or having small children that delay you half an hour getting out.

    Hey, I think I figured out why the “donuts after mass” thing started!
    (We always go on Saturday if possible, but the effect is the same.)

PopeWatch: Separated at Birth

Thursday, April 6, AD 2017

 

Carl Olsen at The Catholic World Report something that has frequently struck PopeWatch:  how similar Pope Francis and President Trump are:

 

As I’ve stated before, Francis often seems more comfortable being a politician than a pope. And, I would argue, he does indeed seek popularity; that is, I think, blatantly obvious. He follows a very simple and consistent course: he seeks to win over certain people or groups of people while lashing out at those he perceives as enemies, almost always resorting to a rather astounding list names and, yes, labels rather than any sort of arguments—that would be the “firm stance regarding critics.”

Giangravè concludes by asserting: “Populism is not so much a phenomenon as a utility belt, one that Pope Francis is well equipped to use. But when it comes to what to use it for, the pope chooses to focus on the root causes of the problem, such as poverty and inequality, rather than its symptoms.”

And how is this different, say, than what Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders did in the recent presidential election? Both of them continually, in their own ways, reached out to those on the margins, claimed to the champion of the poor and those barely making it, and campaigning for the votes and support of the blue collar workers ignored or scorned by the elites. Pope Francis presents himself as a champion of the poor and ignored; Trump and Sanders presented themselves as the champions of the poor, the blue collar, and the disenfranchised. There are some differences, of course, as Francis is not campaigning for votes. Yet he reaches out to the nameless, downtrodden masses—and often does in political, “us vs. them” terms. And, besides, does anyone doubt that Trump and Sanders (among others) don’t use such their populism in calculated, utilitarian ways? And didn’t both men, whatever their respective policy positions, address poverty and inequality in many different ways (answer: yes).

The spate of recent pieces about Francis as the “anti-Trump” fixated, naturally, on differences over immigration and economics, but ignored the striking similarities in both methodologies and personalities. Both men are scolding or even verbally abusive, emotive, crafty but not interested in nuance or careful distinctions, impatient with details, pragmatic in an often superficial fashion, confusing or ambiguous in language and action, temperamental, autocratic, and—I would suggest—rather incompetent. Such characteristics aren’t uncommon in populists, who use their appeals to certain groups to cover up serious deficiencies or contradictions.

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  • DaDonald and DaDon, the Caudillo Brothers.

  • Curious that while the Pope and Trump are supposedly so much the same, it is interesting to consider that those who generally support the Pope don’t support Trump and visa versa
    For orthodox Catholics the Pope is an embarrassment to himself and the Church; for conservative Republicans Trump is an embarrassment to himself and the Republican Party.

  • Sorry, I don’t see the comparison. Who our Pope does remind me of is Obama. This is why this Pope sent my radar to twitch from the start.

  • I’m not seeing the analogy, either. Trump is a vulgar and exhibitionistic man, unscrupulous in many of his dealings, but also oddly capable in some others. He’s off on some unfathomable lark going into politics, and I doubt will understand his administration until it’s long over. Francis is a common clerical type and he’s jonesing for the approval of the modal type of parish clergyman and the modal type of (occidental) parishioner. If the survey research I’ve seen referred to is not a false meme, about 2/3 of the people who show up for Mass are not shuffling into the confessional even once a year. A great many parish priests are perfectly happy with that (along with the issue of OcRaP Press).

  • The Holy Father comes from that cadre of Latin priests who rather scorned John Paul II as the Polish pope. Even Mexican priests with the example of the ‘20s seem to have sided with those in the Polish hierarchy who were willing to live with the scraps left by the politicians.

  • Maybe not separated at birth, but they use the same cologne.

    Eue d’ ¡Hagan Lio!

    I hear it smells like La Revolución

Of Kiwis and Chickens

Wednesday, April 5, AD 2017

 

Hattip to my bride.

This is not an April Fool’s story:

 

 

New Zealand Post has announced its couriers will home-deliver KFC fast food, in a trial that could provide a recipe for success as letter volumes continue to dwindle.

Under a pilot scheme that started this week in the North Island town of Tauranga, KFC customers can order online and have their food delivered by NZ Post drivers.

KFC operator Restaurant Brands NZ said that while it knew how to produce food, it had no experience in logistics, making the postal service a natural fit.

“NZ Post has an extensive delivery distribution network around New Zealand, and KFC is available in most towns nationwide,” chief executive Ian Letele said.

“With the support of NZ Post, we hope to service the home delivery needs of many more KFC customers throughout New Zealand.”

 

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  • I wonder if this would work here for pizza delivery? Chinese maybe?

  • Do kiwi taste good? I’m referring to the bird not the kiwifruit.

  • ??? KFC on demand? Or only when the NZ Post delivers the mail? Nothing quite like a cold box of fried batter to find a squab hiding in it.

    We haven’t had KFC in over twenty years.

    I hope it goes well.
    In NZ one might of considered Sonic Lamb Inc. to put a deal together, but then again chicken breast is the “other” white meat down under.

    (btw Sonic Lamb Inc. is sarcasm.)

    Eat well Don the Kiwi.
    Chicken factories are counting on you.

  • T Shaw.
    You’d have to ask the Maori people if their tupuna (ancestors) hhanded on a recipe – kiwis are a protected bird since the late 1800’s. With rats, stoats and weasels being introduced with the white man, these animals raid the nests – they are at ground level – and dogs kill and eat the mature birds. Until humans came to NZ – the first being the Maori in the late 1200’s – NZ birds, many flightless, had no natural predators, except for a giant eagle, whci hdied out before the Maori, and another flightless eagle, that became extinct in the 1600’s with the Maori predating all their natural prey. Up to 60% of NZ birdlife has been extincted in the past 500 or so years. NZ is now a world leader in eliminating threats to indigenous species and setting up sancturaries so the endangered specis can be reared in a protected environment, then released back into the wild to repopulate areas that have been denuded, Several species which were on the brink, or thought to be extinct, are now thriving and one can hear a great variety of birdsong when walking through the native bush. I have been back to an area recently where I used to hunt deer 50 years ago, and the change is amazing.

  • Philip .
    Like you, I haven’t had KFC in many years, but now that there’s a delivery in my home town, amybe I should try? 😉
    Actually we eat chicken a couple of time a week – my wife buys fresh chicken, and we generally barbecue it, or bake it. Yum. There are the big chicken outfits, Tegel and a couple of others who provide plenty of variety, and NZ lamb is dearer here in the shops than it is in the UK, and I believe in some parts of the US – and we export lamb and live sheep to the like of Iran and Saudi Arabia.

  • Thanks for that Don :mrgreen:

    New Zealand – WORLD LEADER IN LOGISITCS. 😆

  • Actually, Pizza Hut are doing a test run with drones to deliver pizzas – will be interesting to see how it goes, with kids getting their eye in using BB guns and shangeyes (catapults)

  • Thanks Don the Kiwi!
    Drones, BB guns, kids and pizza!
    That’s known as the Perfect Storm! 😎
    Thanks for the update and we too like our BBQ chicken…less the skin. 🙁

  • Just back from the country of Panama where KFC is king. However, with the traffic by the time you would get your food it would be ice cold.