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PopeWatch: Blame

Anyone doubt that the Pope said this?

 

Pope Francis’ reported comments to a gay man that “God made you like this” have been embraced by the LGBT community as another sign of Francis’ desire to make gay people feel welcomed and loved in the Catholic Church.

Juan Carlos Cruz, the main whistleblower in Chile’s clerical sex abuse and cover-up scandal, said Monday he spoke to Francis about his homosexuality during their recent meetings at the Vatican. The pope invited Cruz and other victims of a Chilean predator priest to discuss their cases last month.

Cruz said he told Francis how Chile’s bishops used his sexual orientation as a weapon to try to discredit him, and of the pain the personal attacks had caused him.

“He said, ‘Look Juan Carlos, the pope loves you this way. God made you like this and he loves you,'” Cruz told The Associated Press.

The Vatican declined to confirm or deny the remarks in keeping with its policy not to comment on the pope’s private conversations. The comments first were reported by Spain’s El Pais newspaper.

 

Go here to read the rest.  Note that these private comments, which the Vatican never confirms nor denies, always go one way:  against traditional teaching.  That such off the cuff remarks produce chaos within the Church is for this Pope a feature not a bug.  PopeWatch really does not blame the Pope anymore.  He is what he is.  PopeWatch does blame the clergy and the laity who sit idly by as Francis drives the Church off a cliff.

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Donald R. McClarey

Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three and happily married for 35 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.

11 Comments

  1. PopeWatch does blame the clergy and the laity who sit idly by as Francis drives the Church off a cliff.

    In the Novus Ordo parish I’ve been attending the last several years, the only sign the Pope exists is a picture on the wall and one pamphlet in the rack. I think the last time I heard him mentioned in a homily was about 4 yars ago. The Pope’s efforts have given his words the same status as those of the typical Anglican bishop: static.

  2. “…another sign of Francis’ desire to make gay people feel welcomed and loved in the Catholic Church.”

    LGBT community needs clear teaching from Francis on acts that are unnatural and unbecoming of the Body of Christ, His Church. Of course all are welcomed since He came for those in need of a physician. The LGBT community is ill. If anyone is in need of being welcomed into Christ’s Church it’s the sick first and foremost.

    As far as the alleged comment about God making that man gay…that sounds like a comment from a homosexual to a homosexual, imo.

  3. Deep down Pope Bozo is a coward. He is just like the typical parish priest who is uncomfortable proclaiming the truth out of fear of being disliked. Just like Cardinal Cookie, his sidekick, with his, “Bravo.”

  4. Cardinal Dolan just affirmed what the Pope “allegedly” said; he called his comments orthodox and fully supported by the Catechism. Nothing against sodomy and its perverse nature. Everything in support of sodomy as a normal human trait made by God.

    That is not even just standing idly by. That is actively pursuing acceptance of sodomy and perversion and giving it the Church’s Imprimature.

    It takes a great act of will to remain Catholic under these conditions. I do so, only because I keep my eyes firmly fixed on Jesus and His eternal Church that transcends this moment in time. As time goes by, these people become less and less relevant. Even the Pope is just a chattering mouth to me. Nothing they say is relevant to me any more. All of it is wrong, and as wrong as it can be.

  5. Aqua, I read Dolan’s quote. You fail to read the whole of His statement. He made it quit clear that Homosexual acts ie. sex was disordered and intrinsically wrong, and against the churches moral teaching. He further said that it is possible to live a chaste and celibate life as a gay person, the only option. He was affirming Gods love for all sinners. The same as for an recovering alcoholic.

  6. Whatever the Pope said, it certainly doesn’t help things that he makes these remarks to people with agendas in need of pushing

  7. It takes a great act of will to remain Catholic under these conditions.

    I hear you. I keep thinking of Peter’s words – to whom shall we go? And borrowing from GKC (or was it Churchill) – Catholicism is the worst religion on Earth except for all the rest.

  8. Homosexual acts ie. sex was disordered and intrinsically wrong, and against the churches moral teaching.

    Well that is good as far as it goes. Did he also say that homosexual attraction itself is disordered, much like alcoholism, even if it becomes sinful only when acted upon?

  9. Jim Aldendifer: I read this:

    “Asked about whether God wills someone to experience same sex attraction, Cardinal Dolan was circumspect, noting there is ongoing debate within professional circles.”

    “Is one born that way; is it nature or nurture? Dolan: I don’t think the Holy Father would feel competent to speak on that.”

    In reference to Pope Francis’ overall comments affirming Cruz’s homosexuality, Dolan: “His comments were beautiful, don’t you think?”

    I saw nothing to support your assertion. Cruz was affirmed in his sin. Dolan said the Pope’s alleged statement was “beautiful”.

  10. PopeWatch really does not blame the Pope anymore. He is what he is. PopeWatch does blame the clergy and the laity who sit idly by as Francis drives the Church off a cliff.
    AMEN!!! Thank you Don for this!

  11. “As far as the alleged comment about God making that man gay…”
    ”He created them male and female”. Homosexual attraction is an act or an accident of nature
    “It takes a great act of will to remain Catholic under these conditions…for all people”
    Violence must be done to our natural and unnatural desires to secure heaven.
    “Homosexual acts ie. sex was disordered and intrinsically wrong, and against the churches moral teaching.”
    “Well that is good as far as it goes. Did he also say that homosexual attraction itself is disordered, much like alcoholism, even if it becomes sinful only when acted upon?”
    Love is willing the good of the other. Therefore, looking at another with lust is already adultery or sodomy. Avoiding the near occasion of sin is absolutely necessary to maintain one’s innocence.
    “Asked about whether God wills someone to experience same sex attraction, Cardinal Dolan was circumspect, noting there is ongoing debate within professional circles.”
    Again, God created them male and female and instructed our first parents to increase and multiply. The only way a homosexual sodomite might increase and multiply is by violating an innocent person through sodomy, scandal and seduction…and swimming with the millstone.
    “Is one born that way; is it nature or nurture? Dolan: I don’t think the Holy Father would feel competent to speak on that.”
    It is both nature and nurture. Jesus Christ spoke on that: “test everything”; “take up thy cross and come follow me.”

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