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PopeWatch: The Devil

When it comes to the Devil, who he mentions frequently, the Pope has been preaching the truth since the beginning of his pontificate:

The Devil is more intelligent than mere mortals and should never be argued with, Pope Francis has warned.

Satan is not a metaphor or a nebulous concept but a real person armed with dark powers, the Pope said in forthright remarks made during a television interview.

“He is evil, he’s not like mist. He’s not a diffuse thing, he is a person. I’m convinced that one must never converse with Satan – if you do that, you’ll be lost,” he told TV2000, a Catholic channel, gesticulating with his hands to emphasise his point.

Go here to read the rest.  Saint Thomas More in his Dialogue of Comfort Against Tribulation, which he wrote while imprisoned, has quite a bit to say about Satan including this passage which strikes PopeWatch as quite wise:

Some folk have been clearly rid of such pestilent fancies with
very full contempt of them, making a cross upon their hearts and
bidding the devil avaunt. And sometimes they laugh him to scorn
too, and then turn their mind unto some other matter. And when the
devil hath seen that they have set so little by him, after certain
essays, made in such times as he thought most fitting, he hath
given that temptation quite over. And this he doth not only
because the proud spirit cannot endure to be mocked, but also
lest, with much tempting the man to the sin to which he could not
in conclusion bring him, he should much increase his merit.
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Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 5:00am

……and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 7:40am

Well, he can’t be too evil or convincing. According to PF there is only one person condemned to hell. https://www.google.com/amp/s/aleteia.org/2017/12/11/pope-francis-are-you-full-of-anger-discover-why-its-hard-for-you-to-let-go/amp/

Mary De Voe
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 10:27am

“Well, he can’t be too evil or convincing. According to PF there is only one person condemned to hell. ”
The person condemned to hell is Lucifer. The others in hell have chosen to be there. Our Lady said that souls are falling into hell like snow because there is no one to pray for them.
Oh, Mary conceived without sin pray for us.

Lionel Andrades
Lionel Andrades
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 10:48am

DECEMBER 14, 2017
No contradiction or correction from Roberto dei Mattei

There is no contradiction or correction from Roberto dei Mattei.I e-mailed him at Correspondenza Romano with this blog post. 1
I have said that Mattei will not support Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).It is confirmed that he will not.
He may say that the Church has rejected Feeneyite EENS and so he must not support it but then the Church has also accepted Vatican Councl II(Cushingite) and he criticizes Vatican Council II.
When he refers to outside the Church there is no salvation he is referring to Cushingite EENS,in which invisible for him baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions in the present times to traditional EENS.
This is the error of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre which is not denied by the SSPX.
I informed him that I affirm EENS and Vatican Council II Feeneyite, and he has nothing to say.He does not think that I am in heresy? Am I orthodox for him?
He knows if he affirms Feeneyite Vatican Council II(LG 16-refers to hypothetical cases only) and Feeneyite EENS( BOD, BOB and I.I are not visible and known people) then he would be saying in public that all Jews and Muslims need to enter the Church with no known exceptions in 2017 to avoid Hell.
Vatican Council II would not be a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Church.
But he supports the FSSP and other priests when they offer the Tridentine Rite Mass with the new ecclesiology based on visible for them BOD, BOB and I.I.For them there are known people saved outside the Church.Since there are known people saved outside the Church, who are practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS, the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church is rejected.
He rejects the ecclesiology of St.Robert Bellarmine who did not state that there were personally known or physically visible cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I.Yet this is the inference of Roberto dei Mattei and he does not deny this.
His interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingite theology results in heresy which he shares with the two popes.
I have been saying this for the last few years and he does not comment on this issue which is uncomfortable for him.
Just as believes that what is known only to God can be known also to man(BOD is visible), Pope Francis,Pope Benedict and Cardinal Muller believe that they can judge Catholics as not being in mortal sin in spite of the objective evidence to the contrary.
Cardinal Kasper has said that the controversy over Amoris Laetitia is over.A few years back he said that if every one can accept the new ecclesiology why cannot they also accept the Eucharist being given to the divorced and remarried.
Roberto dei Mattei could make a difference if announces that there are no physically visible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I in 2017 and he cannot judge and conclude that someone outside the Church, whom he knows, will be saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.Neither can he conclude that there can be known people, saved outside the Church and they are in Heaven but visible on earth to be exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.-Lionel Andrades

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DECEMBER 12, 2017

Neither is Roberto dei Mattei nor Maike Hickson willing to affirm the old ecclesiology of the Church with Feeneyite EENS and with such a big doctrinal and theological divide among us they are talking about the pope being in heresy
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/neither-is-roberto-dei-mattei-not-maike.html

John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 12:19pm

Mary, I don’t agree that all in Hell chose to be there. Here is a result of a quick search of those gathered and TAKEN or thrown there or refused entry to Heaven.

Matthew 13:30 “Let them grow together until harvest; then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, “First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

Matthew 13:41-42 “The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.”

Matthew 13:49-50 “Thus it will be at the end of the age. The angels will go out and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.”

Matthew 25:10-12 “While they went off to buy it, the bridegroom came and those who were ready went into the wedding feast with him. Then the door was locked. Afterwards the other virgins came and said, ‘Lord, Lord, open the door for us!’ But he said in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, I do not know you.’

Matthew 25:41-46 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’ He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’ And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Philip Nachazel
Philip Nachazel
Thursday, December 14, AD 2017 3:58pm

@JFK.

The actions or lack thereof are defining goats, weeds, weasels, turtle blood parasites and the like. Call it what you will, but people make choices. People choose hell.
God is not a traffic cop.
He is the grantor of free will and by our free will we choose heaven or we choose hell. We serve or refuse to serve.
We grow together and with God’s grace weeds can be transformed into wheat. Goats can be converted into sheep.
The unwise virgins choice was not to be prepared. Because of God’s mercy I’m confident HE gave the unwise virgins multiple times to prepare, however the choice was theirs.

“The others in hell have chosen to be there.”
-Mary De Voe.

Yes. The sin against the Holy Spirit merits hell.
That’s why we are our brothers keeper.
We must help our unwise neighbors to find the oil reserves and pray they want to have enough on hand for the coming of the bridegroom.
God places no one there!
So choose wisely!

Michael Dowd
Michael Dowd
Friday, December 15, AD 2017 3:55am

Many are now saying that Pope Francis himself is doing the work of the devil.

Lionel Andrades
Lionel Andrades
Friday, December 15, AD 2017 5:11am

Traditionalists are not affirming the Catholic Faith. Mattei will not affirm Feeneyite EENS.Since then Vatican Council II will not be a rupture with Tradition as he has been saying all these years.And then he will be accused of being Anti-Semitic. This is how the devil controls the Church.It is through our attachments and interests which we want to protect.

DECEMBER 15, 2017
The traditionalists in general have made an error.They have made a major error in theology and doctrine.

The traditionalists in general have made an error.They have made a major error in theology and doctrine.
For Roberto dei Mattei for example invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
So he will not affirm Feeneyite EENS.
So Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition for him.If he affirmed Feeneyite EENS Vatican Council II would not be a rupture with Tradition.
He would be saying Lumen Gentium 16(LG 16) etc are not physically visible cases.SO they do not contradict the old ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
Vatican Council II does not contradict Feeneyite EENS.
-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 14, 2017
No contradiction or correction from Roberto dei Mattei
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/no-contradiction-or-correction-from.html

Mary De Voe
Friday, December 15, AD 2017 7:15pm

Not unlike general absolution, visible and invisible, Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire are emergency cases of imminent death which, when possible, must be regularized. The person must ask for grace. If the person is prevented by circumstances beyond his control, Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire are the only recourse available to him. It cannot be claimed that persons divorced and remarried who are not in danger of imminent death and who refuse to seek the truth have good will to receive the Holy Eucharist. Invincible ignorance and the Holy Spirit cannot co-exist.

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