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How To Know & Deal With Heresy Today – Part II

Let him, the heretic,  be accursed.

St. Vincent of Lerins warns that the current heresy must not be  “blessed, praised and welcomed.” It is our duty, he says,“To anathematize those who preach anything other than what has once been received, always was a duty, always is a duty, always will be a duty.”

You would think St. Vincent of Lerins time travelled to the twenty first century:

“Nauseating the truth.”

“Garbage of heretical novelty.”

“He means, though Peter, though Andrew, though John, in a word, though the whole company of apostles, preach unto you other than we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”

 

Full text, excerpts From the Commintory of St. Vincent, 5th Century Anno Domini:

“Exposition of St. Paul’s Words, Gal. i. 8.

“[21.] When therefore certain of this sort wandering about provinces and cities, and carrying with them their venal errors, had found their way to Galatia, and when the Galatians, on hearing them, nauseating the truth, and vomiting up the manna of Apostolic and Catholic doctrine, were delighted with the garbage of heretical novelty, the apostle putting in exercise the authority of his office, delivered his sentence with the utmost severity, Though we, he says, or an angel from heaven, preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8

“[22.] Why does he say Though we? Why not rather though I? He means, though Peter, though Andrew, though John, in a word, though the whole company of apostles, preach unto you other than we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Tremendous severity! He spares neither himself nor his fellow apostles, so he may preserve unaltered the faith which was at first delivered. Nay, this is not all. He goes on Even though an angel from heaven preach unto you any other Gospel than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. It was not enough for the preservation of the faith once delivered to have referred to man; he must needs comprehend angels also. Though we, he says, or an angel from heaven. Not that the holy angels of heaven are now capable of sinning. But what he means is: Even if that were to happen which cannot happen—if any one, be he who he may, attempt to alter the faith once for all delivered, let him be accursed.

“[23.] But it may be, he spoke thus in the first instance inconsiderately, giving vent to human impetuosity rather than expressing himself under divine guidance. Far from it. He follows up what he had said, and urges it with intense reiterated earnestness, As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other Gospel to you than that you have received, let him be accursed. He does not say, If any man deliver to you another message than that you have received, let him be blessed, praised, welcomed,— no; but let him be accursed, [anathema] i.e., separated, segregated, excluded, lest the dire contagion of a single sheep contaminate the guiltless flock of Christ by his poisonous intermixture with them.

“His warning to the Galatians a warning to all.

“[25.] Or perhaps the anathema pronounced on any one who should preach another Gospel than that which had been preached was meant for those times, not for the present. Then, also, the exhortation, Walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh, Galatians 5:16 was meant for those times, not for the present. But if it be both impious and pernicious to believe this, then it follows necessarily, that as these injunctions are to be observed by all ages, so those warnings also which forbid alteration of the faith are warnings intended for all ages. To preach any doctrine therefore to Catholic Christians other than what they have received never was lawful, never is lawful, never will be lawful: and to anathematize those who preach anything other than what has once been received, always was a duty, always is a duty, always will be a duty.

“[26.] Which being the case, is there any one either so audacious as to preach any other doctrine than that which the Church preaches, or so inconstant as to receive any other doctrine than that which he has received from the Church? That elect vessel, that teacher of the Gentiles, that trumpet of the apostles, that preacher whose commission was to the whole earth, that man who was caught up to heaven, 2 Corinthians 12:2 cries and cries again in his Epistles to all, always, in all places, If any man preach any new doctrine, let him be accursed. On the other hand, an ephemeral, moribund set of frogs, fleas, and flies, such as the Pelagians, call out in opposition, and that to Catholics, Take our word, follow our lead, accept our exposition, condemn what you used to hold, hold what you used to condemn, cast aside the ancient faith, the institutes of your fathers, the trusts left for you by your ancestors and receive instead—what? I tremble to utter it: for it is so full of arrogance and self-conceit, that it seems to me that not only to affirm it, but even to refute it, cannot be done without guilt in some sort.”

More to come.

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  1. Charles Coulumbe, Brother Andre Marie MICM and Brother Thomas Augustine MICM have been discussing the baptism of desire with reference to justification and salvation when there are no physically visible cases.

    Charles Coulumbe, Brother Andre Marie MICM and Brother Thomas Augustine MICM have been discussing the baptism of desire with reference to justification and salvation when there are no physically visible cases.They do not state that the baptism of desire is not visible like the baptism of water and there are no known cases of the baptism of desire in our reality. So the baptism of desire is not relevant or an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
    Sedevacantists Peter Dimond1 and Steven Speray 2 have written books on the baptism of desire while not mentioning that there are no seen in the flesh cases of the baptism of desire.We cannot see or meet someone saved with the baptism of desire.
    There are also videos 3 discussing the baptism of desire and no one states that for the baptism of desire to be relevant or an exception to EENS as it was interpreted by the popes and saints there would have to be a known case.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire cannot be visible examples of salvation outside the Church.
    Similarly Charles Coulumbe discusses the baptism of desire on the video 4 and does not state that we do not know the name and surname of someone saved with the baptism of desire in the present times.Also no one could have seen someone in the past, in Heaven, saved with the baptism of desire,with or without the baptism of water.
    Such an important point is left out in these discussions, in which every one is going in circles.They do not realize that it is the magisterium which has made the mistake and are keeping quiet on this subject since it changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
    Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre mistook the baptism of desire as being a known exception to Feeneyite EENS and Cardinal Burke makes the same mistake today.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 with this error has been placed in the Denzinger.It is part of the ‘magisterial teachings’ I suppose just like the Buenos Aires Letter in the Acta Apostolica Sedis.In both cases we humans cannot know exceptions to the rule for faith (exclusive salvation) and morals(mortal sin).Theoretically we can postulate but in reality there are no known cases.
    Christine Niles made this mistake in a Mic’d up program a few years back on the subject of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. She also interviewed Charles Coulombe on that program.
    There are no baptism of desire cases in our reality and they are all discussing the baptism of desire with for and against positions.Theoretically they speculate and theologically they pro or contra.
    When I point out to the traditionalists and sedevacantists there are no baptism of desire cases they either ban me or block me on their forums and websites.
    Sedevacantists Bishop Donald Sanborn and Fr.Anthony Cekada have articles on line criticizing Feeneyite EENS and citing the baptism of desire as an exception. It is the same on the official website of the SSPX. The SSPX has been selling Fr. Francois Lasiney’s book, Is Feeneyism Catholic? in which he assumed there are physically known cases of the baptism of desire.Otherwise how could the baptism of desire be an exception to Feeneyite EENS for him?
    So it is no surprise that all of them reject Vatican Council II since Lumen Gentium 14( case of the catechumen) and Lumen Gentium 16( case of salvation in invincible ignorance) are not hypothetical cases for them as it is for me. LG 14 and LG 16 refer to known people, for them, saved outside the Church.
    It is the same for Pope Benedict and he expressed it last March 2016 in the interview in Avvenire.He said that since there is salvation outside the Church…..
    -Lionel Andrades
    1.
    http://www.mhfm1store.com/booucachthis.html
    2.
    https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/category/baptism-of-desire-and-blood/page/2/
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    4.
    DECEMBER 6, 2017
    Charles Coulombe discusses the baptism of desire as if there are known cases in our reality
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulombe-discusses-baptism-of.html
    DECEMBER 6, 2017
    Charles Coulombe could have said that there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulombe-could-have-said-that.html
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulumbe-brother-andre-marie.html

  2. “Theoretically we can postulate but in reality there are no known cases.” Baptism of desire is effective for salvation on the death bed. Otherwise, the individual must pursue the Sacrament of Baptism in the Catholic Church, in the same way that a dying man’s confession is accepted in a court of law without a second witness’ testimony to establish a judicial fact.

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