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PopeWatch: Contradiction

 

 

The former head of the Vatican Bank,  Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, lets Pope Francis have it in an essay in La Verita:

 

I see two implicit messages in the Pope’s failure to answer the dubia. The first implicit message is “I can contradict myself if I want to.” At the start of the Synod on the Family (October 2014), the Pope invited the cardinals to speak openly and frankly, without fear of embarrassing the Pope (the famous parresia). And yet for months the Pope has refused to respond privately or publicly to the dubia expressed by four cardinals who represent a large part of the faithful.

The second implicit message seems to be a declaration of the intent to impose a “New Catholic Morality.” This would be founded on the awkward circumstances of the new ethical demands (or requirements) of new situations created by the secularized world, not on the Commandments, the Catechism and the Magisterium invoked by the “obsolete” Veritatis Splendor.   

In the past, the Church’s concern was to keep the faithful “strong in the Truth” in order to conserve the faith. She therefore discouraged a disposition to interpret doctrine and the magisterium in a subjective and dangerously misleading manner. Indeed, back then the task of pastors was to confirm the certainties of faith by “teaching,” not just by “listening.”

Today, it could be said that you should have subjective and unresolved doubts to demonstrate that you have an “authentic faith.” You must not try to resolve them or seek answers to questions on points of ambiguous interpretation because that would be insolent and arrogant. Doubts are necessary because it seems that we don’t want to affirm a single, absolute and objective truth. A pluralist and dialectical truth has taken its place because this latter truth, a truth based on the conclusions of a “self-taught” individual conscience, has replaced doctrine as the judge of actions (praxis).  

One might say that traditional morality has been overridden by circumstances (and not the ideal), and since we should not longer judge (that is, objectively evaluate circumstances), the Church seems to want to renounce the possession of the truth and its teaching (unless it concerns the environment, poverty and immigration). Thus, a failure to respond to the dubia confirms that doctrine is abstract and that it is of no use to salvation because truth is transitory, subjective and open to differing interpretations. It is better to dialogue, then, than to teach something that is no longer eternal.

 

Go here to read the rest.  Whatever the Pope is preaching, it has little resemblance to traditional Catholicism.

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Donald R. McClarey

Cradle Catholic. Active in the pro-life movement since 1973. Father of three and happily married for 35 years. Small town lawyer and amateur historian. Former president of the board of directors of the local crisis pregnancy center for a decade.

19 Comments

  1. Fr. Bill Casey C.P.M. said it years ago at conferences around the country; “We as a church, have adopted today the mentality of The Church Nice.” “The Church Mush.”
    A church that stands for nothing.

    Pope Francis is helping this virus spread.

  2. The former head of the Vatican Bank? Where are the bishops? With few exceptions, they are AWOL in defending the faith and the faithful.

  3. When clergy will not defend the Faith, the laity must.

    There is a beautiful scene in the movie Back to Bataan about the resistance to the Japanese invaders by the Philippine guerillas, where the John Wayne character says that now that the Armies have been defeated maybe the people will want to fight. This is the stage the Church is in during this pontificate.

  4. Jesus said it best; “You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt looses it’s savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and trodden underfoot by men.” Matthew 5:13 Douay-Rheams version.

    Jane’s Krazy Salt is not a proper substitute dear Holy Father.

  5. Nice try but your assertions do not line up with reality… the Church you seek where both leaders and laity ALL are in 100% agreement of every magisterial teaching has never existed and never will. That the Church purports this to be true is nothing short of a lie–the difference today being that the Church can no longer threaten or bully adherents into compliance. In other words, much to the chagrin of the radical-traditional set, the Roman church has been coerced into a more civil, charitable existence–a taste of their own medicine of sorts, after centuries of coercion from the heavy-handed hierarchs. Pope Francis is doing the only thing the RCC can do in order to remain culturally relevant and financially solvent… and the result is a subtle shift to the center, away from medieval magic, power and control. If that seems contradictory to some folks, well, sorry… just remember, church “teaching” is not limited to what is written on paper. By RC standards tradition is equally important and history is rife with less-than-consistent behavior from the leaders of RC… but here traditionalists will decry the human element of the church, elevating policies over people which has plagued the Church for centuries. Aggiornamento is happening under this pope’s watch, which is nothing new…. those who know church history know that the Church is “Siempre Reformanda,” 100% necessary in order to bring Jesus’s message to the modern world.

  6. Paul, your being a fan of this pontificate, coming as you do from a very negative view of the Church, symbolizes everything for a believing Catholic that is wrong with it. However, dud Popes are nothing new in the history of the Church. Faithful Catholics will outlast him, just as we outlast all our foes, human and inhuman.

  7. What if… all these things, and more, had a common root cause?
    – Widespread fornication, sex without babies.
    – Abortion, unwanted babies from sex without babies..
    – Widespread divorce, couples not truly giving themselves to each other.
    – Homosexual agenda, well if sex is not about procreation, not about babies, then.
    – Pornography, objectification of the other.
    – Church of Dissent; OK to pick and choose Teachings.
    – Church of Nice, afraid to speak the truth.

    Anyone with half a brain can see, it’s obvious the common root cause is widespread CONTRACEPTION, ACTS AGAINST THE BEGINNING OF LIFE THAT SEPARATE LIFE AND LOVE, that has in turn enabled the sexual De-evolution.

  8. Pope Francis is doing the only thing the RCC can do in order to remain culturally relevant and financially solvent

    Culture relevance. Yeah, that’s what the Roman Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ, is supposed to be pushing. Not truth. Not the Real Presence. Not the pathway to salvation. Cultural relevance.

    That someone could write the above sentence fragment and think it an argument for Bergolio’s pontificate is really just proving the point of the pope’s critics.

  9. Well, Paul, come on. Jesus said Christians who follow Him would be super-popular and loved by the world, and that’s certainly the case with the pontiff.

    QED and checkmate, you radical traditional bully.

  10. McMasters: “the Church you seek where both leaders and laity ALL are in 100% agreement of every magisterial teaching has never existed and never will.”

    Matthew 13: 24 Another parable he put before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. 27 And the servants of the householder came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then has it weeds?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Then do you want us to go and gather them?’ 29 But he said, ‘No; lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.’”

    McMasters; “In other words, much to the chagrin of the radical-traditional set, the Roman church has been coerced into a more civil, charitable existence.”

    1st Timothy 3: 15 If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the PILLAR and FOUNDATION of the TRUTH

    Matthew 16: 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    McMasters: ” Pope Francis is doing the only thing the RCC can do in order to remain culturally relevant…”

    2nd Timothy 4: 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

    1st John 2: 18 Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, that it might be plain that they all are not of us. 20 But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all know. 21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also.

    McMasters: “100% necessary in order to bring Jesus’s message to the modern world.”

    Luke 13: 1 There were some present at that very time who told him of the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And he answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered thus? 3 I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen upon whom the tower in Silo′am fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

    McMasters: It’s ok to sin because God is charitable and He will never let you go to hell.

    Jesus message: REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND.

    Buckle up, McMasters. The time for God’s judgment on liberalism and progressiveness and feminism is at hand, the eradication of all three of which is demanded by perfect Charity.

  11. Pope Francis is doing the only thing the RCC can do in order to remain culturally relevant and financially solvent…

    We kinda figured it’s a business with you guys.

  12. The Pope’s infallibility comes when the Pope teaches faith and morals “ex-cathedra” in union with the Magisterium, all the bishops of the world. Pope Francis seems to be emulating Obama abandoning his constituents and using his phone and his pen to rule

  13. Several things are clear from the above.
    —Pope Francis has adopted the Islam practice of tawriya, a doctrine that allows lying in virtually all circumstances.
    —Pope Francis has had a devastating effect on the faithful by warping their minds to no longer recognize the truth, e.g., Paul McMaster.
    —Most of the clergy are faithless and cowardly for not speaking truth to power. Note: There is a really possibility that many of them no longer know the truth.
    —We need to be thankful to Donald McClarey for bringing the truth about the Pope to our attention.
    —The Church badly needs a Council of Trent II in order to re-establish and re-emphsize the truths of the Catholic Church.

  14. Mary De Voe wrote, “The Pope’s infallibility comes when the Pope teaches faith and morals “ex-cathedra” in union with the Magisterium, all the bishops of the world”
    No, that is Gallicanism. Pastpr Æternus says, “definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church [ex sese, non autem ex consensu ecclesiae].”
    His definitions require the consent of no one. As Pastor Æternus also says, “all the venerable Fathers have embraced, and the holy orthodox Doctors have venerated and followed, their Apostolic doctrine; knowing most fully that this See of holy Peter remains ever free from all blemish of error, according to the Divine promise that the Lord our Saviour made to the Prince of His disciples: “But I have prayed for you, so that your faith may not fail, and so that you, once converted, may confirm your brothers.” (Lk 22:32).

    This gift, then, of truth and never-failing faith was conferred by heaven upon Peter and his successors in this Chair, that they might perform their high office for the salvation of all; that the whole flock of Christ, kept away from the poisonous food of error by them, might be nourished with the pasture of heavenly doctrine; that the occasion of schism being removed, the whole Church might be kept one, and, resting on its foundation, might stand firm against the gates of Hell.”
    Thus, St Augustine, the Doctor of Grace, says, “Will you dare to say that even when Christ prayed that Peter’s faith might not fail, it would still have failed if Peter had willed it to fail; that is, if he had been unwilling that it should continue even to the end? As if Peter could in any measure will otherwise than Christ had asked for him that he might will. For who does not know that Peter’s faith would then have perished if that will by which he was faithful should fail, and that it would have continued if that same will should abide? But because “the will is prepared by the Lord,” (Proverbs 8:35) therefore Christ’s petition on his behalf could not be a vain petition. When, then, He prayed that Peter’s faith should not fail, what was it that He asked for, but that in his faith Peter should have a most free, strong, invincible, persevering will! Behold to what an extent the freedom of the will is defended in accordance with the grace of God, not in opposition to it; because the human will does not attain grace by freedom, but rather attains freedom by grace, and a delightful constancy, and an insuperable fortitude that it may persevere.” (De Correptione et Gratia c 17 (VIII))

  15. The infallibility of the Pope rests on ex-cathedra and the Magisterium. When any Pope rejects church doctrine and the prayer of Jesus Christ for His church, the Pope fails. not the Church.
    Infallibility rest in the church. Any Pope who rejects the church has no infallibility.

  16. This particularly, regarding Bergoglio as pope, is a key point: “I can contradict myself if I want to.”

    It is also highly irresponsible for those who act in good faith trying to understand and respect his authority. It is also its own peculiar form of insolence—“Just go deal with it, I said what I said, and I don’t have to be consistent or concerned about its effects.

    We have,a real ,winner’ in this man as pope.

  17. Only God cannot and will not contradict Himself, because God is perfect. Man suffers imperfection. The Catholic church in its doctrines about Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary does not contradict herself, because FAITH is a gift from God. Faith as a gift from God must be acknowledged by every state and defended in FREEDOM.

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