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From the only reliable source of Catholic news on the net, Eye of the Tiber:

 

Responding to Cardinal Robert Sarah’s suggestion that priests celebrate Mass ad orientem, or facing east, Pope Francis today praised the idea, asking all priests to face Mecca while saying Mass.

Speaking to a large crowd at his weekly Wednesday Audience in St. Peter’s Square, the Pope said that facing Mecca during Mass could be the ecumenical boost the Church and the east need “in these dark times.”

“It is very important that we return as soon as possible to a common orientation, of priests and the faithful turned together in the same direction, toward Mecca, the holiest site in all of Islam. This will accomplish two things…first, it will be as a sign of unity between east and west. Second, when we kneel at Mass, we will not only be kneeling for Christ’s forgiveness, but kneeling to those we harmed during the Crusades, which was our fault. They will, thereby, act in pseudo persona Christi as we humbly ask for God’s forgiveness.”

Francis went on to ask all priests to “implement this practice wherever possible, unless of course you’re already located somewhere in the east, in which case, ad populum will be permissible.”

After close to a ten second paused, Francis smiled, saying “Man…Sarah’s so smart, right? How does he come up with this stuff? He’d make such a great pope. He’s nothing like the Burke idiot I got rid of.”

PopeWatch attempted to contact the Pope for a comment, but was advised that he was on a pilgrimage. Or a hegira.  Something like that.

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TomD
TomD
Saturday, July 16, AD 2016 7:47am

This one is not funny, EOTT. Islamic supremacists will believe every word of it, and will keep it alive on the ‘net to further justify their actions. Sheesh…

Brian
Brian
Saturday, July 16, AD 2016 9:04am

Eye of the Tiber is becoming less a source of satire and more a source of breaking news ….. Perhaps a few months in advance.

Sadly, it’s not out of the realm of reason to imagine this as an actual news flash.

For a pure dose of Catholic Truth, check out this bold proclamation on behalf of our Saviour Jesus Christ:

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/07/statement-of-sspx-superior-general-bp.html

bill bannon
bill bannon
Saturday, July 16, AD 2016 9:17am

. Seriously, this Pope takes great pride in dialoguing with the perhaps most influential Sunni University, al-Azhar and its Grand Iman leader, Ahmad el-Tayeb to whom he gave copies of Laudato Si and a peace medallion in May after which el-Tayeb went to Paris to attend an ecumenical meeting sponsored by the Catholic Sant Egidio community and al-Azhar. It sounds nice except that the University and annexed Mosque are never going to renounce jihad as a Muslim obligation in the long run of history ( the four major Sunni schools of jurisprudence believe in it) and in 1991 the University certified an English translation of a 14th century book, Umdat as-Salik, as ” conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community”. That book spends eleven pages on the obligation of jihad and states: ” The caliph … makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians … provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax.[21]. The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim … because they are not a people with a book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax.[22]
Very simple solution. Let the Pope simply ask the Grand Iman if Sunni Islam can ever nullify permanently the obligation of jihad? Let the Pope talk simply and straight instead of holding an annual meeting in Paris that beats around the bush with Catholic attendees thinking to themselves that they can talk Islam out of the obligation of jihad.
Meanwhile is the University going through the motions for convert purposes worldwide…portraying themselves as peaceful and distinct from ISIS which they are because they believe in long term violence if necessary and ISIS believes in short term murder in addition to traditional violent jihad.
Secondly….what in the world is the Pope thinkng in terms of ISIS? Does he think the Grand Imam of the preeminent less insane Sunni University has any authority with them? The Pope should read Dabiq, ISIS’s magazine,
….they regard the Muslim Brotherhood and anyone not with them as Kafr….the equivalent in faith of Charlie Sheen or Miley Cyrus. That doesn’t bode well for their thoughts on the Grand Imam.

bill bannon
bill bannon
Saturday, July 16, AD 2016 12:22pm

In 2015 December, the Grand Iman …el-Tayeb, who received the peace medallion from Pope Francis this May and meets ecumenically with us, refused to denounce ISIS as non Islamic:

http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/12/alazhar-isis

bill bannon
bill bannon
Saturday, July 16, AD 2016 12:42pm

And the Islamic University that Catholicism is dialoguing with yearly in Paris has a free booklet on Christianity being a failed religion ( see second to last par. at link) and here an Islamic scholar speaks against them…who studied there and disapprovingly sees them as quite enabling of ISIS intellectually….though not physically.
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/11/18/al-azhar-and-isis-cause-and-effect/

I suspect Pope Francis is researching his Islamic friends about as much as he researched murder rates in the two largest Catholic and non death penalty populations…Brazil and Mexico…murder central.

Philip
Philip
Sunday, July 17, AD 2016 5:21am

@bill bannon

Good links from your last two posts.

When the Muslim pretending to be Christian, leaves office come January, one of my hopes is that the new commander and chief is male and will remove the Islamic brotherhood participants from posts within our administration. Not politically correct?
Oh well….sue me.

What of a female in office?

She’ll sell our national security off in a heartbeat, if she didn’t already accomplish that.

Sharia law must NOT gain a foothold in these United States. That includes any neighborhood designated as a Muslim community… Dearborn Michigan for example.

The threat is real.

bill bannon
bill bannon
Sunday, July 17, AD 2016 7:28am

Philip,
The good thing is that we live during a time when Islam is so much weaker than the major countries like the US and China and Russia and Japan (if she rearms as it looks like she might)….that jihad is a pipedream. The bad thing is moments like Nice. The other bad thing is that the Church leaders and Popes plural have become primarily feminine…empty hellers. If they were masculine, Popes would warn terrorists monthly through major media that their fate after death is great torment and that the Popes would retain their sins on earth and thus God would retain them in Heaven unless they stopped the murders of civilians. I don’t believe the last three Popes think anyone is in hell despite millions dying throughout history during a mortal sin like shooting at policemen as their last act….Pablo Escobar type endings. That mindset is a type of feminization of males. Feminie women are great…feminine men…not so much.

Philip
Philip
Sunday, July 17, AD 2016 7:57am

bill bannon.

How true…your comments on Papal justice speak… where is it?
The feminine male is striped of his true identity. Now he is a mush of indecisive clumsiness that is propagated by the anti-family Hollywood elites. New family! The old family with it’s values is being ground to dust, and replaced by so-called same sex married couples and prideful little boys who are glorified by their peers and parents when Jr. comes out of the closet. This anti biblical approach is the old lie being told to a new crowd and they are buying it hook line and sinker.

When the erosion of the foundations reaches it peak watch them scramble to blame everyone else. “How could this happen?” will be their mantra as San Francisco California becomes inhabitable. “It must be those conservative nut jobs. Bible loving gun carrying racist.”

Oh yeah. We will be blamed when the curtain falls on the 3rd Act. Good news. Some will repent. Some will enter in to God’s grace and forgiveness. Some will continue to despise His laws and those who propagate it.

Such is life.
We pray for all.

Kmbold
Kmbold
Sunday, July 17, AD 2016 1:14pm

May we say ad “orientem”? Mustn’t it be ad “Asiam”? ?

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