Sandro Magister at his blog Chiesa brings us the latest attempt by Pope Francis to transform Catholic doctrine:
ROME, July 1, 2016 – In his way, after encouraging communion for the divorced and remarried, in that it “is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak,” Pope Francis is now also encouraging Protestants and Catholics to receive communion together at their respective Masses.
He is doing so, as always, in a discursive, allusive way, not definitional, leaving the ultimate decision to the individual conscience.
Still emblematic is the answer he gave on November 15, 2015, on a visit to the Christuskirche, the church of the Lutherans in Rome (see photo), to a Protestant who asked him if she could receive communion together with her Catholic husband.
The answer from Francis was a stupefying pinwheel of yes, no, I don’t know, you figure it out. Which it is indispensable to reread in its entirety, in the official transcription:
“Thank you, Ma’am. Regarding the question on sharing the Lord’s Supper, it is not easy for me to answer you, especially in front of a theologian like Cardinal Kasper! I’m afraid! I think the Lord gave us [the answer] when he gave us this command: ‘Do this in memory of me’. And when we share in, remember and emulate the Lord’s Supper, we do the same thing that the Lord Jesus did. And the Lord’s Supper will be, the final banquet will there be in the New Jerusalem, but this will be the last. Instead on the journey, I wonder – and I don’t know how to answer, but I am making your question my own – I ask myself: “Is sharing the Lord’s Supper the end of a journey or is it the viaticum for walking together? I leave the question to the theologians, to those who understand. It is true that in a certain sense sharing is saying that there are no differences between us, that we have the same doctrine – I underline the word, a difficult word to understand – but I ask myself: don’t we have the same Baptism? And if we have the same Baptism, we have to walk together. You are a witness to an even profound journey because it is a conjugal journey, truly a family journey, of human love and of shared faith. We have the same Baptism. When you feel you are a sinner – I too feel I am quite a sinner – when your husband feels he is a sinner, you go before the Lord and ask forgiveness; your husband does the same and goes to the priest and requests absolution. They are ways of keeping Baptism alive. When you pray together, that Baptism grows, it becomes strong; when you teach your children who Jesus is, why Jesus came, what Jesus did, you do the same, whether in Lutheran or Catholic terms, but it is the same. The question: and the Supper? There are questions to which only if one is honest with oneself and with the few theological lights that I have, one must respond the same, you see. ‘This is my Body, this is my Blood’, said the Lord, ‘do this in memory of me’, and this is a viaticum which helps us to journey. I had a great friendship with an Episcopalian bishop, 48 years old, married with two children, and he had this concern: a Catholic wife, Catholic children, and he a bishop. He accompanied his wife and children to Mass on Sundays and then went to worship with his community. It was a step of participating in the Lord’s Supper. Then he passed on, the Lord called him, a just man. I respond to your question only with a question: how can I participate with my husband, so that the Lord’s Supper may accompany me on my path? It is a problem to which each person must respond. A pastor friend of mine said to me: ‘We believe that the Lord is present there. He is present. You believe that the Lord is present. So what is the difference?’ – ‘Well, there are explanations, interpretations…’. Life is greater than explanations and interpretations. Always refer to Baptism: “One faith, one baptism, one Lord”, as Paul tells us, and take the outcome from there. I would never dare give permission to do this because I do not have the authority. One Baptism, one Lord, one faith. Speak with the Lord and go forward. I do not dare say more.”
It is impossible to gather a clear indication from these words. Of course, however, by speaking in such a “liquid” form Pope Francis has brought everything into question again, concerning intercommunion between Catholics and Protestants. He has made any position thinkable, and therefore practicable.
In fact, in the Lutheran camp the pope’s words were immediately taken as a go-ahead for intercommunion.
But now in the Catholic camp as well an analogous position statement has come, which presents itself above all as the authentic interpretation of the words Francis said at the Lutheran church of Rome.
Acting as the pope’s authorized interpreter is the Jesuit Giancarlo Pani, in the latest issue of “La Civiltà Cattolica,” the magazine directed by Fr. Antonio Spadaro that has now become the official voice of Casa Santa Marta, meaning of Jorge Mario Bergoglio himself, who reviews and adjusts the articles that most interest him before their publication.
Taking his cue from a recent joint declaration of the Catholic episcopal conference of the United States and of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Fr. Pani dedicates the entire second part of his article to the exegesis of the words of Francis at the Christuskirche in Rome, carefully selected from among those most useful for the purpose.
And he draws the conclusion from them that they marked “a change” and “a progress in pastoral practice,” analogous to the one produced by “Amoris Laetitia” for the divorced and remarried.
They are only “small steps forward,” Pani writes in the final paragraph. But the direction is set.
And it is the same one in which Francis moves when he declares – as he did during the return flight from Armenia – that Luther “was a reformer” with good intentions and his reform was “medicine for the Church,” skipping over the essential dogmatic divergences between Protestants and Catholics concerning the sacrament of the Eucharist, because – in the words of Francis at the Christuskirche in Rome – “life is greater than explanations and interpretations.”
So here are the main passages of the article by Fr. Pani in “La Civiltà Cattolica.”
Go here to read the rest. Pope Francis seems to be attempting in his pontificate to convince Catholics that it doesn’t matter if they are Catholic or not. Some have begun calling the Pope an anti-Pope. PopeWatch doesn’t agree with them, but does believe that the Pope’s general approach to the Church makes one wonder what role there is for a Pope in the emerging Francis Church?

Have you ever noticed that for these liberals, whether Jorge Bergoglio or Hillary Clinton, there is no law? These people are all the same.
Pope Nebulous Maximus!
In union? Out of union? In agreement?
Not in agreement? Either you are in complete agreement with the doctrine and Faith of the Catholic Church or your not. If you are, you are in Communion… agreement and full acceptance of the Holy Catholic Church.
What is PF doing about his dementia?
If I received communion at a Lutheran Church am I not saying I’m in complete agreement with the Lutheran Church? Scandalous is this pontificate.
He is in need of professional help and care.
My prayers for him are directed to his mental health. Retirement home with a great memory care department is my hope for this ailing man.
God help him.
“I think the Lord gave us [the answer] when he gave us this command: ‘Do this in memory of me’. And when we share in, remember and emulate the Lord’s Supper, we do the same thing that the Lord Jesus did.”
I find this reasoning curious. “Do this in memory of Me” has usually been understood to mean, ‘In commemoration of my redemptive act.’ Christ’s redemptive act was his death and resurrection. The Institution Narrative shows how that act was and can be sacramentally realized. It is scarcely evident that a sacramental memorial of the redemptive act should memorialize the institution of that memorial.
When Christ told Peter, “Get behind me Satan”, he meant for Peter to fall in line with Christ’s teachings. Peter needed to accept what Christ actually taught. It would seem PF needs to hear the same.
Definitive is an adjective that lives outside the gates of Francis’ church.
Archbishop Chaput has removed his diocese out of Pope Francis’ shades of grey world…remarrieds must live sexless to receive….or move to a Pope Francis diocese:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/06/catholics-who-remarry-after-divorce-must-avoid-sex-to-receive-communion-philly-archbishop-says.html?intcmp=ob_article_footer_text&intcmp=obnetwork
Philip,
His illness is he wishes to fundamentally transform the Church. We do get to witness either the beauty of the Holy Spirit which has denied him the ability to infallibly proclaim any changes or the intellectual wimpiness of the pontiff in that all of these major changes are only hinted at or danced around with rambling, vacuous language. Cardinal Marx, God help his soul, says what he means in concise blunt terms-the pope lacks that courage.
Ken.
Unfortunately your probably correct in your diagnosis of the pontiff.
Sad times, but they are our times. Pray and fast. Hold on tight.
“Thank you, Ma’am. Regarding the question on sharing the Lord’s Supper, it is not easy for me to answer you, especially in front of a theologian like Cardinal Kasper! I’m afraid! I think the Lord gave us [the answer] when he gave us this command: ‘Do this in memory of me’. And when we share in, remember and emulate the Lord’s Supper, we do the same thing that the Lord Jesus did.
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What an almost comically tragic revelation of how garbled his teaching of “faith and morals” is for the patients at the Field Hospital.
Dr. Kasper administrates him, apparently.
At last, he has found a command that he can ‘use’ as a ‘command’.
And …
” Acting as the pope’s authorized interpreter is the Jesuit Giancarlo Pani, in the latest issue of “La Civiltà Cattolica,” the magazine directed by Fr. Antonio Spadaro that has now become the official voice of Casa Santa Marta, meaning of Jorge Mario Bergoglio himself, who reviews and adjusts the articles that most interest him before their publication.”
… there is a sorting sifter for this, the elected teacher of all but faith and morals.
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Three years have passed for the Vatican. Eight years have passed for the US. The degeneration of humanity and religion are changing the fiction category of ‘Vatican’ by Malachi Martin to non-fiction, history. Reread it. Seems there are some few who are using it as a plan and directive. Evil exists and good dwindles in fear of the world rather than fear of the Lord. Power is some choice between holy fear and the other rampant one.
It seems Francis is working hard to ensure his legacy:
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=28777
Agree LQC – only their poorly formed or unformed conscience is their guide
Good point MPS, but it seems typical for him to mush things together.
You are right bill bannon dioceses may be led by certain bishops, closer to Francis’ changes or not. I am afraid many bishops are not leading- “deer in the headlights” right now.
People can shop for their dioceses they way they have shopped for churches for the last fifty years! –
To me, we seem to be entering that time of chastisement
For the, what it’s worth, column.
Our sense of time is not beholden to the Lord’s timing, of course. Having said that it is interesting that a century was mentioned regarding the alleged Pope Leo XIII auditable conversation of Christ and Satan. A century was given up, according to the accounts I’ve read, where Satan takes his best shot at souls on earth.
What if Satan waited until the early part of the twentieth century to begin his onslaught?
The twentieth century was one of enormous bloodshed and deception. If Satan is running out of time, he very well could use the last card in his deck, relativism, and the leadership of the Catholic Church to sell this last card in a bid to garner souls.
As chastisement is not a far fetched idea,
this speculation is just sophomoric wonderings… however these times and the insanity being sold as lucid on a grand scale has my imagination in high gear.
Transgender bathrooms…
Presidential candidates…
Papal musings …on and on it goes.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…
Communion is for Catholics in a state of grace and no one else. If Pope Francis doesn’t want to accept that then he can resign and go join the Episcopal Church…and take Daneels, Schonborn, Kasper, Marx, Cupich, Lunch and Mahony with him, to name a few.
Pope Francis may not an anti-Pope but he is clearly anti-Catholic or Protestant, if you will. He is doing everything he can to undermine the historic teaching of the Church. And even worse, hardly anyone in the clergy is challenging him. Lay people appear to be the last bastion of hope for Catholic Church. I have to think we are approaching the end times or at least the end of an age. God help us all especially Pope Francis.
What a stunning blow to the Catholic belief of the Eucharist: the Real Presence, and the Sacrifice! Francis’ “Hail fellow, well met!” is a distinct temptation to abandon the faith. Come, Holy Spirit…..