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PopeWatch: Archbishop Gądecki

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If you are alarmed by the Relatio, the mid-term report from the Synod on the Family, go here to read about it, you are in good company as Rorate Caeli informs us:

 

 

In an interview with Vatican Radio, the President of the Polish Episcopal Conference did not hesitate to say that this document departs from the teaching of John Paul II, and even that in it can be noticed traces of the anti-marriage ideology. According to Archbishop Gądecki, this text also highlights the lack of a clear vision for the synodal assembly.

“Referring to the issues of marriage and family, certain criteria are being applied that raise doubt. For example, the criterion of gradualism. Can you really treat cohabitation as gradual, on the path to holiness? Today, the discussion also highlighted that the doctrine presented in the document is marked by the sin of omission. As if the world’s view prevailed and everything was imperfection which leads to perfection… Attention was paid not so much to what this document says, but to what it does not say. Speak about the practical exceptions, but we also need to present the truth. Also, the points that speak of children entrusted to same-sex couples are formulated somewhat as if this situation is being praised! This is also a defect of this text, which should be an incentive to fidelity, family values, but instead seems to accept everything as it is. It created an impression that the teaching of the Church has been merciless so far, as if the teaching of mercy were beginning only now.”

PopeWatch suspects that Pope Francis is attempting to ram this down the throats of many at the Synod who are quite unwilling to accept it.  Pope Francis has gifts, but PopeWatch doubts if prudence is among them.  Interesting times, interesting times.

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Paul W Primavera
Tuesday, October 14, AD 2014 7:00am

“PopeWatch suspects that Pope Francis is attempting to ram this down the throats of many at the Synod who are quite unwilling to accept it.”
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But they voted for him to be Pope just as we voted for Obama to be President.
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“..now appoint for us a king to govern us like all the nations.” 1st Samuel 8:5
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“For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” Hosea 8:7

father of seven
father of seven
Wednesday, October 15, AD 2014 5:22am

Mercy began with this pope. Just ask him.

Penguins Fan
Penguins Fan
Wednesday, October 15, AD 2014 4:04pm

Should the Holy Father attempt to ram some document which dumbs down Catholic teaching on marriage and homosexuality down the throats of the Catholic faithful then he has another thing coming. Other pontiffs have faced strong resistance to their actions before and that was a time before the rapid mass communication of today existed.

The Polish people have suffered terribly at the hands of oppressors. The faithful of Poland and elsewhere will not put up with this garbage.

Bergoglio needs to resign and return to his screwed up country – and take Kasper with him. They are the cause of this mess.

Anzlyne
Anzlyne
Wednesday, October 15, AD 2014 9:20pm

It appears there were enough people who think like this pope in the College that elected him.
He knows he has plenty of support. I understand he was considered as a possible pope before.
The people who voted for him knew him, even though the rest of the world didn’t.
He is not what he seems…just a simple humble bumble who just loves everybody and simply follows Jesus – as people seem to believe, better than B16 or JPII.
An authoritarian talking about collegiality; he just means collegiality with some. (not those Africans and people who take the Catechism to mean what it says) In his Argentinan interview he allowed that he could talk with conservatives as long as they were intellectually well -formed. Humbly arrogant thank you very much.
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this quote from the post shows the duplicity and arrogance.
“…. this text, which should be an incentive to fidelity, family values, but instead seems to accept everything as it is. It created an impression that the teaching of the Church has been merciless so far, as if the teaching of mercy were beginning only now.”

seems to accept everything– people already think our hero Francis has changed the rules (out of love for the masses I’m sure) …at the same time debunking the historical teachings and actions of the bad old Church… aggiormento.
“Gradualism” presented as a heartfelt meeting the sinner where he is, reflects the insidious, (seemingly harmless but with profound effect) way the humane broadminded and thoroughly modern spirit of Vatican II worked.
They keep saying teaching won’t be changed- VII taught us that most of the cultic and pastoral changes did not come from documents but flooded us all “pastorally” in practice.
Read “Gradualism” and the Inevitability of Doctrinal Change at Queering the Church
http://queeringthechurch.com/2014/10/15/gradualism-and-the-inevitability-of-doctrinal-change/

Edie Eason
Edie Eason
Friday, October 17, AD 2014 10:18am

“interesting times” – The Chinese have a curse – “May you be born in interesting times”.

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