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PopeWatch looks forward to the meeting between Pope Francis and President Obama in March.  If PopeWatch may be so bold, PopeWatch suggests abortion as a topic of conversation.  Yesterday the Pope tweeted:

I join the March for Life in Washington with my prayers. May God help us respect all life, especially the most vulnerable.

President Obama observed the forty-first anniversary of Roe somewhat differently:

Today, as we reflect on the 41st anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, we recommit ourselves to the decision’s guiding principle: that every woman should be able to make her own choices about her body and her health.  We reaffirm our steadfast commitment to protecting a woman’s access to safe, affordable health care and her constitutional right to privacy, including the right to reproductive freedom.  And we resolve to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and continue to build safe and healthy communities for all our children.  Because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams.

 

 

Carol Glatz at Catholic News Service gives us here the top 13 quotes of the Pope on the sanctity of human life.  Popes traditionally of course have addressed abortion with Presidents but often in fairly oblique terms.  With Pope Francis, who knows?  He can be fairly blunt at times.  We shall see.

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Spambot3049
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 7:00am

Just speaking for myself, I have no doubts about Pope Francis’s commitment to a full spectrum of pro-life issues. I do have serious doubts about how the media will portray those views, and there are several scenarios in which the pope’s views will be called into question.
In one scenario, the conversations with Obama are private, and selective leaks are publicized by someone looking to put the pope on the defensive.
In another scenario, the pope makes numerous unambiguous remarks affirming his pro-life stances, plus one highly-publicized, ambiguous remark that requires bloggers (once again) to explain away our doubts.
In another scenario, the pope publically condemns Obama’s record only to be portrayed as “undiplomatic”, “strident”, or even “gaffe-prone” by the international media.
The chance that the pope will express strong pro-life views and those views will be reported accurately and fairly by the media is pretty small, in my view (but I hope to be wrong).

Philip
Philip
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 9:03am

No grandchildren for Michelle or Barry!
Wishing to glorify themselves as elites the daughters of the impeachable (p)resident followed in the Lib way of life. Harvard pot and sex. After their abortions they found out that natural pregnancy was not possible. 🙁

Pope Francis could tell a fairytale.
Call it “In the wake of disaster.”

Mary De Voe
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 9:17am

Where is the father and the man’s responsibility in providing for the woman, his wife or the mother of his progeny, his child. Read Susan B. Anthony’s speeches on the absent and irresponsible father who gets a girl pregnant and then abandons her. Obama speech reinforces the criminality of such behavior not found anywhere else in nature. A nation of scalywags endorsed and encouraged by the devil himself. Well, what about the father, the begetter, the one with manhood?
Roe v. Wade 41 years ago disenfranchised the father of his offspring, his constitutional posterity, his future. and enabled the woman to destroy the male seed after it had begun life. Only half of the population are represented by our president. The great black father in Washington isn’t.

Paul W Primavera
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 9:32am

The Pope needs to tell Obama what happened to King Manasseh for murdering babies.

Philip
Philip
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 9:33am

“The great black father in Washington isn’t.”

Perfectly said!

Ez
Ez
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 1:37pm

“Continue to build safe and healthy communities for our children”- really?

“Because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfil their dreams”- except of course if you happen to fall in the category of an”unintended pregnancy”.

Half the time, I don’t think Obama realises the crap that comes out of his mouth. When you know his ideology, you realise how fickle his words are- so uninspiring, so depressing.

Pope Francis- I pray you hold nothing back.

tamsin
tamsin
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 3:21pm

Well, based on his prior chats, I bet Francis is going to try to land a punch. It’s interesting, though; Francis must know precisely that Obama defends abortion all the way up to birth. Obama must know precisely that Francis defends life all the way back to conception. Everybody’s on record, loud and clear. I doubt Obama fears losing any segment of the fear-based single female vote. So, what’s in it for either of them? I fear that Obama expects to get the better part of the deal: a photo opportunity that helps him sell his “decisions, programmes, mechanisms and processes specifically geared to a better distribution of income”. All for taking one punch. How will Francis use that opportunity? What words will he choose? Hmm. Time for Jesuits to put up or shut up.

Mary De Voe
Thursday, January 23, AD 2014 7:15pm

Half of the children aborted are daughters, daughters of half of the population, who are fathers of these daughters. Obama was elected to represent all of us, equal Justice under the law, as constituents to Obama’s presidency.
If one listens carefully to the plaints of the left, and the liberals, one hears the cry for equal Justice under the law. The gay unnatural marriage agenda is voicing a very real zeitgeist, the unlawful and unjust denial of the human soul, the real emasculation and sexual prejudice against the manhood of fathers, the obliterating of the sovereign personhood endowed by our Creator to the newly conceived human being of our species, and the preemption of all the innocence and justice brought into the family of man by their innocence and Justice. This is truly a cry for the emasculation of manhood to be eradicated, and the oppression of the feminist movement be aleviated. Equal Justice for all under the law would reinstate the proper authentic authority of the father over his children.
Equality must be equal Justice for all in a court of law.
Pope Francis must ask Obama:”Where is your brother?”

Mary De Voe
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 12:05am

Here is the question Pope Francis needs to ask of the elusive, transparent, non-existent great black father in Washington.
Those two girls who live with Barack, Roe v. Wade says that they are not his. The girls belong to Michelle and he has nothing further to say about them, the fruit of his loins. Pope Francis ought to ask Barack how he feels about that. Andrew Cuomo, too, does not own the fatherhood of his children. Any and all of these children escaped being aborted by their mother. These children are not survivors. They are the joyless, brainwashed refugees from a Moloch, Sodom and Lesbos gulag.

Ez
Ez
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 6:59am

I get the sense that Obama wouldn’t flinch at the thought of Michelle having “ownership” of their two girls. Because I think his views on pro-choice womens “rights” are actually his wife’s views.

I think this is true for most politicians.

If they say and do whatever it takes to win public approval, they will say and do anything their wives want them to…and only God know why these wives of pro-abortion politicians are so adamant about women’s access to abortion…if you get what I mean…

Besides, the Obamas seem so out of touch with the black community and the tragedy that plagues too many- absent fathers. From my point of view, not being an American, It appears as though he has done nothing to address the problems of the black community, absent fathers being just the tip of the iceberg.

All he does is nod his head to those that are willing to fill his pockets and those that will guarantee him power.

He has done more for the gay man, using the same race issues, as common cliches to advance the gay “rights” agenda.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 7:44am

Lies. Lies everywhere.

Everybody has the right to prvacy. If you leave no witness and no detectable evidence you may kill another person and live “happily” ever after.

However, you will answer for it to God Almighty. Your soul will be destroyed in the eternal fire of hell.

Fear not that which can only destroy your physical life but cannot kill the soul. Fear God who can destroy both body and soul in hell. See Matt. 10:28; Luke 12:2-7.

When was the last time you heard a sermon on the rewards of eternal life which Christ jesus has purchased for us with his life, death, and resurrection?

El
El
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 10:38am

T Shaw, my parish hears about the rewards heaven and the pains hell all the time; but then our pastor is Father Robert Sirico.

tamsin
tamsin
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 10:42am

Good suggestions, Mary! “So, Barack, why is the black abortion rate so high? Do you think that is a good thing or a bad thing?” Aren’t Jesuits supposed to be good at asking questions? “So, Barack, if we see the unborn child as Other…”
But as folks point out, Obama does not behave as though he has a conscience; it has been subsumed fully by class consciousness. I fully believe that he has a conscience… it’s just buried under so many layers (thank you, Stanley Ann!) it cannot be pricked.

T. Shaw
T. Shaw
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 10:51am

El: Alleluia!!!

Mary De Voe
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 1:44pm

El: Allelujia !!!
“All he does is nod his head to those that are willing to fill his pockets and those that (WHO) will guarantee him power.”
Obama is a fake Ken doll to go with Wendy Davis’ fake Barbie doll. Ambition, ambition, ambition.

Mary De Voe
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 1:49pm

tamsin, “But as folks point out, Obama does not behave as though he has a conscience; it has been subsumed fully by class consciousness.”
tamsin, you have just defined communism with “class consciousness”

Stilbelieve
Stilbelieve
Friday, January 24, AD 2014 2:34pm

“I join the March for Life in Washington with my prayers. May God help us respect all life, especially the most vulnerable. ”

Why do Church leaders draw attention away from the purpose of the “March for Life in Washington” by encompassing it with “all life?” 57,000,000 American babies have been murdered because of Roe v. Wade and the Democratic Party. This could not have happened without Catholic Democrats giving their party the electoral power to keep the murder of unborn babies legal. Catholics elected Obama President, twice, the first time with 54% of their vote; the second time with 50%. And Catholic Hispanic citizens gave him 75% of their vote. Catholics, you want to end legal abort? Remove your names from endorsing the pro-abortion party, and stop voting for all Democrats until that party changes its position.

anzlyne
anzlyne
Saturday, January 25, AD 2014 9:59pm

i looked back at images of the Obamas meeting with B16 in 2009, remembering that I had a yucky feeling watching the coverage on TV. Michelle looked beuatiful in her long mantilla.
Jay Carney: the president hopes to talk about poverty and income inequality — (Fox News)

Mary De Voe
Sunday, January 26, AD 2014 9:23pm

“I get the sense that Obama wouldn’t flinch at the thought of Michelle having “ownership” of their two girls. Because I think his views on pro-choice womens “rights” are actually his wife’s views.
I think this is true for most politicians”.
EZ: The fatherhood of the American male has been annihilated by the Supreme Court in Roe v.Wade. Roe legally castrated every American male of his manhood, his fatherhood, his offspring. “You don’t own that”, the pregnant woman and her doctor own that. Obama does not own the fatherhood of his children, Roe versus Wade does. Blackmun, Brennan, do not own the fatherhood of their children either. Sadly, our Constitution no longer owns the fatherhood of the American male either. The devil took it to progress to the abortion of the unborn soul.

Anzlyne
Anzlyne
Sunday, January 26, AD 2014 9:48pm

I agree Mary something has happened to fatherhood and to men. Virtuous and virile men are needed! Strong men who will protect and provide. People talk about the feminization of the church, even of the US military. That only happens because nature abhors a vacuum and fake Ken dolls.

Mary De Voe
Sunday, January 26, AD 2014 10:01pm

Anzlyne: Fatherhood must be restored to our culture. God bless.

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