So I Am Voting for Kodos After All

Jeff Goldstein left this comment on his own blog.

The wife and I reversed course and did in fact pull the trigger for Romney. But only as a stop gap to get Obama out.

Having voted for him, I now own part of him, should he win. And I’m going to be a very very very strict owner.

Beyond that, though, I think whatever the outcome of this election, the GOP establishment and the conservative / classical liberal / TEA Party base are going to engage in a huge existential battle. And I think the GOP is either going to have to get in line with us or head over to the Democrat side. Which won’t be terrible, because it’ll dilute the hard left with a lot of moderate mushiness and move it more toward the Democratic party of, say, JFK.

I agree with those of you who say enough is enough, and no more lesser of two evils. And I don’t begrudge you voting libertarian or writing someone else in. I really don’t. I just feel like we can not afford 4 more years of this guy without bringing the whole thing crashing down. And with two small kids, that literally terrifies me. In my state, every vote counts.

But it will be moot if we don’t also take the Senate and the House, and not with establicans, either. Any GOP office holder who has pimped for a Democrat instead of a TEA Party challenger should be primaried and cast out, whatever his or her voting record. There cannot be a permanent ruling class. And it’s time these entitled suited monkeys learned that.

We also need to change leadership — at least in the House. I think McConnell will, confronted with the reality of a bunch of new conservative / TEA Party Senators (should we get them; the GOP isn’t too terribly concerned with helping most of the serious ones, many of whom are in tight races), act in the interests of that particular trend. Boehner, on the other hand, needs to go. As does Cantor. Period. Full stop.

To me, it’s completely unacceptable that the GOP is allowing the Dems to beat up on Bachmann, King, and West — along with a number of very good constitutional conservative Senate candidates.

And that needs to be made clear as well, forcefully, once this election is over.


As I type this I am watching the third party debate on CSPAN. Yes, I am watching more of this than I did the debate that took place between Obama and Romney last night. Here’s the thing. While it’s nice to say that you are going to vote third party in protest, the people who are actually running for president on third party tickets are, shall we say, less than serious. Jay Anderson’s friend Virgil Goode seems like a decent man and the one third party candidate who is tethered to reality. On the other hand, the rest of the people on the stage seem more interested in vital issues like ending drug prohibition and combating climate change. Gary Johnson is under the impression that when he’s inaugurated he will wipe out the income tax and balance the budget, evidently as unicorns and mermaids dance around the maypole. The candidate of the Justice Party, Rocky Anderson, seems like he has gotten a head start on the end of prohibition. And then there’s Jill Stein of the Green Party, who makes one long for the seriousness of the Nader campaign.

All of the candidates for president – those polling in the 40s and those polling in the .40s alike – are simply not attractive. As is almost always the case we have to choose the least bad candidate. The least bad candidate of this election cycle happens to be Mitt Romney. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but when the available protest candidates are even more revolting than the primary candidates (and my only options in this state are Johnson and Stein), then there is little choice.

That being said, I think that Goldstein’s points are going to be worth keeping in mind. Assuming that Mitt Romney is elected as the next president of the United States – and I believe he will be – that is but the first stage in what is going to be a long battle not just between Republicans and Democrats, but between Republicans and Republicans as well. (And presumably there will be the same serious soul searching internally for the Democrats.)  But that’s a post for another time.

As for now, I’m going to watch Larry King do a better job moderating the clown debate than anyone who moderated the “real” debates.

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  1. I’m in total agreement with Jeff. We have to get Obama and his Administration out of here, and Reed out of Leader of the Senate. Having done that, we have to get real leadership in the House. That done, then we can go to town and really turn our country into the greatness we inherited from our founding fathers.

  2. Mr Zummo says ” [Romney’s election] is but the first stage in what is going to be a long battle not just between Republicans and Democrats, but between Republicans and Republicans as well.” If the word “long” is capitalized I agree entirely. We need to think in terms of several decades. But I see no hope in soul searching by Leftists who think the soul is a gift from the government.

    However, I’m afraid Mr Goldstein’s statements strike me as bravado. Unless he can show that the people currently running (and likely to win) form a conservative majority in both the House and Senate caucus I fail to see how his statements about leadership differ from bluster. The election of Romney, which I also support for the sake of the country, would make changes at the Congressional level Less likely though. He did not win the nomination beholden to the Tea Party which foolishly did not coalesce around a single candidate. Similarly the time to “primary” RINO Repubs was in 2010 and 2012 unless again Romney loses. A Repub WH can throttle most “insurgencies” and with Obama and Obamacare gone there would be less energy behind the Tea party movement. Just being realistic. Mr Goldstein sort of realizes that his scenario can evaporate because Repubs are willing to jeopardize their majorities by providing little to no support for more conservative candidates. The fewer that win the more secure the leadership. (They would rather have a one vote majority or even a close minority than be tossed out with a six vote majority.) The airy confidence that RINOs would somehow join the Dems but serve as a diluting agent also defies current reality. So Mike Castle and Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and Jon Huntsman etc forced to join the Dems are going to dilute Leftist programs like Obamacare and cap and trade? If the Left wins a few more elections they won’t need such “help”. The only real force that conservatives have in the near to medium term is the negative one of withdrawing electoral support to the Repubs. Unfortunately this strategy has only limited utility at the national level given the menacing nature of the current Dem party.

  3. aside from the main point, but Gary Johnson is basically exactly the reason why I’m not a libertarian. I’ve read libertarians referred to as “Communists turned inside out” and that pretty much nails it for me. Liberals exalt Equality as the end-all-be-all, libertarians exalt Personal Liberty, both are wrong.

    actually when you think about it modern libertarians share much more philosophically in common with liberals. sure, they’re “anti-government,” but more core to their ideology is that everything is about the self. Liberals think in these terms too, they just differ in the means, i.e. it’s the state’s job to liberate people (however defined)

  4. also i didn’t watch the debate last night either, mostly cuz it sounded like a big agreeing-fest

    Unless the GOP critiques the “democracy is always good in the Middle East” mentality there doesn’t seem to be a massive difference on foreign policy, except that Romney will hopefully be less deferential and favor-currying with the M.E. than Obama has, culminating in his apparent misplaced confidence in Libya

  5. I had assumed that I will spend the next four years rousing opposition to what Romney will be attempting to do. Now I am not so sure. Some conservatives have been elected and then are revealed to be RINOs. Now I am beginning to wonder if Romney has been a conservative pretending to be a RINO in Massachusetts? We will all find out soon enough.

  6. I don’t know if it is bravado so much as a rallying cry, Rozin. Jeff realizes that whatever happens on November 6 is just the beginning of what will be a very long political battle.

    actually when you think about it modern libertarians share much more philosophically in common with liberals. sure, they’re “anti-government,” but more core to their ideology is that everything is about the self.

    I largely agree, though libertarian ends are generally more palatable than leftist ends.

    I had assumed that I will spend the next four years rousing opposition to what Romney will be attempting to do. Now I am not so sure.

    Yes, his behavior during the campaign has given me slight hope. I had assumed he would have moved right to the middle after securing the nomination, but that hasn’t exactly been the case. His selection of Ryan as a running mate gives me some hope that he is serious about fiscal reform.

  7. Additionally I was struck by the rumors about Gloria Allred and her “October Surpise” with some postulating that the big scandal is that Romney as a Mormon leader counseled individual women against having abortions, including helping one woman pay her bills.

  8. that is but the first stage in what is going to be a long battle…between Republicans and Republicans

    More like the 117th stage. I made the comment on an earlier thread that if there are two competing gas stations being built on a length of road, it makes sense to put them as close to the middle as possible, with enough room between them so that people will be able to distinguish which one’s closer. A guy who lives on mile 1 of a four-mile stretch of road wants a gas station to be put up on mile 1, but it’s better for the gas station to go up at mile marker 1.95, ensuring it’ll get all the business from the first two miles of road. If you put up a gas station at marker 1 and the other one’s at marker 2, you lose half the people between the two stations to your opponent. So each party’s going to be neutral-to-exteme (on one side or another) on abortion, taxes, defense, whatever, because that ensures they get the most of the wishy-washy and all of the passionate.

  9. Pinky,

    If the two parties are merely fighting over how to spend a balanced budget (ie setting priorities) and operating within the Constitution then there is life after losing and your analogy holds. I also assume that the judiciary is operating within its Constitutional charter. The problem is that the modern Democrats know no such boundaries and will happily wreck the entire country if they think they can be around to run the pieces. If this sounds extreme, look at Europe. Despite the PIGS/F economic catastrophes the same political parties seem to survive. The only difference is that the public riots in favor of more debt and benefits. Why would the Dems be afraid to wreck the country seeing that? It’s obvious that even Establishment Repubs aren’t duly worried.

    Mr Zummo,

    I understand Mr Goldstein was trying to set a marker down. My problem is that the situation needs to be defined accurately before a strategy to win can be devised. I don’t think Mr Goldstein made any effort to think through the statements he was making. He should have just said what you said in that case.

  10. DMcC says “Now I am beginning to wonder if Romney has been a conservative pretending to be a RINO in Massachusetts?”

    I visited relatives in Mass for many years and saw every Gov from King to Romney in action so to speak. Romney was the least popular of the 4 Repub Governors starting with Weld. Perhaps part of that was due to Bush43’s unpopularity in the state. He did not strike me as a conservative masked as a RINO. The one area he was consistently conservative on was the budget. As President I would see him acting fairly strictly on spending. On other things he is more Big government oriented or center left than not. He was no fan of Reagan. Without a fairly conservative Congress, I would not expect too much except for budget and debt restraint. He is only going to repeal Obamacare because he and the other Establishment Repubs know it would be political suicide if they didn’t.

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