Too Bad It Can’t Fit on a Bumper Sticker

68 Responses to Too Bad It Can’t Fit on a Bumper Sticker

  • Suggestion: make paper copies and put them on the windshields of parked cars which sport the COEXIST number sticker. That’ll get the point across.

    Liberal. Progressive. Democrat! That’s what this “COEXIST” is all about.

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour says:

    Christians “pose no threat to the others” – Unless one happens to be a Muslim in the Balkans or the Caucuses, a Jew or Gay, pretty well anywhere East of the Vistula or anyone at all who encounters the Lord’s Resistance Army – Unless one subscribes to the “No true Scotsman” fallacy.

  • “Unless one happens to be a Muslim in the Balkans or the Caucuses, a Jew or Gay, pretty well anywhere East of the Vistula or anyone at all who encounters the Lord’s Resistance Army – Unless one subscribes to the “No true Scotsman” fallacy.”

    I believe MPS the reference was to the United States where these bumper stickers are not infrequently found on cars of the self-annointed enlightened. As for the remainder of the globe, Islam has the distiction in the modern world of managing to producing a civilization that almost always has unfriendly relations with any unIslamic culture that it encounters, a fact that people who slap coexist bumper stickers on their vehicles tend to studiously ignore.

  • Chris Pennington says:

    <Unless one happens to be a Muslim in the Balkans or the Caucuses

    Muslim persecution in the Balkans????

    Orthodox Christian Serbs in Kosovo are being terribly persecuted. Also to a lesser extent Catholic Croats in Bosnia and it’s not “sectarian”. Its religious based jihad. Muslims enjoy broad power throughout Bosnia and rule with an iron fist in Kosovo.

    In Bosnia the Muslim population is actively trying to force out Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats.

    The relatively new country of Macedonia is dealing with a militant Albanian Muslim population because they want another pure Muslim country.

    a Jew or Gay, pretty well anywhere East of the Vistula

    Ow yes, because Jewish and gay people are so well tolerated in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Sudan and other Islamic countries…..

  • Art Deco says:

    Unless one happens to be a Muslim in the Balkans or the Caucuses, a Jew or Gay, pretty well anywhere East of the Vistula or anyone at all who encounters the Lord’s Resistance Army – Unless one subscribes to the “No true Scotsman” fallacy.

    It is not a fallacy, Michael. The “Lord’s Resistance Army” is a bizarre heretical sect that has no analogue anywhere else but the small swatches of Uganda and adjacent areas where it has operated.

    There are only about 200,000 Jews currently resident east of the Vistula and it is doubtful that the 6% or so of Russia’s population who are religiously observant constitute much of a threat to them. Of course, there used to be many more, but these cleared out of Soviet Russia or were massacred by Nazi Germany and allies.

  • Bonchamps says:

    It’s a fallacy to use the “no true scotsman” fallacy to describe the exclusion of the LRA from the Christian category.

    People can call themselves whatever they like. If there’s no objective, minimum criteria by which to determine who belongs in what category, then we may as well stop using words to describe things altogether.

  • Joe Green says:

    It’s come down to his: That all the wisdom of the world be placed on a bumper sticker. It took Thomas Aquinas three huge volumes in Summa Theologica (and he never finished it) to sort out the mysteries of life. Now we can have it all summed up in a few sentences. Wonderful. Next up: The 66 books of the Bible condensed on the back of a cereal box.

  • Art Deco says:

    Unless one happens to be a Muslim in the Balkans or the Caucuses, a Jew or Gay,

    The Balkans and the Caucasus (like Ulster) are places where confessional distinctions also demarcate ethnic and national loyalties.

    I think the experience of the Occidental world in the last forty-odd years suggests that if homosexuality is not kept in check by social custom and public policy (which may or may not include provisions in the penal code) it turns metastatic.

  • “The 66 books of the Bible condensed on the back of a cereal box.”

    Actually, the Protestant Bible has 66. Martin Luther ejected 7 from the Bible: Wisdom, Sirach, Tobit, Judith, Baruch, and 1st and 2nd Maccabees. So the Bible has 73 books (and includes the Greek portions of Daniel and Esther that Martin Luther also rejected).

  • Foxfier says:

    Lord’s Resistance Army

    Including that as a knock against Christianity is a rather good sign that you’re reaching and/or blowing smoke. It’s about as Christian as voodoo- and for similar reasons, what with borrowing vocab and sometimes symbols to describe the existing religion.

    It’s like trying to shove the “no true scotsman” thing to include a local basketball team whose mascot wears a kilt. “But they’re called the Scots! If you deny that THEY are true Scotsmen, then you’re just accepting the No True Scotsman fallacy!”

    Joe Green -
    I believe it has been condensed down to a single word:
    Love.

  • Even a cursory review of the Wikipedia entry on the LRA would have revealed to Michael Paterson-Seymour that there is little if anything Christian about it:

    “Ideologically, the group is a syncretic mix of African mysticism, Acholi nationalism, Islam, and Christian fundamentalism. It claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.”

    I suspect that like most anti-Christian people, Michael Paterson-Seymour is far more attached to liberal progressive atheistic ideology than to truth. Such anti-Christian ideologues – Robespierre, Calles, Stalin, Mao, etc. – have been guilty of the most heinous and murderous crimes against humanity. Whether Michael Paterson-Seymour’s ideology runs as deeply as Plutarco Calles’ or Josef Stalin’s remains to be seen.

  • Mary De Voe says:

    Joe Green -
    I believe it has been condensed down to a single word:
    Love.
    God is Love, without God there is no Love. Ask the devil to love you? Love God and your neighbor as yourself. God’s commands and the prophets’.

  • T. Shaw says:

    “You Can’t Coexist With A Rattlesnake” fits nicely on a bumper sticker.

    Here’s a bumper sticker I like, “Defend Freedom – Defeat Obama.”

  • Joe Green says:

    Some of my favorite bumper stickers:

    We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

    Pride is what we have. Vanity is what others have.

    The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour says:

    “Ow yes, because Jewish and gay people are so well tolerated in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Sudan and other Islamic countries…..”

    But they do not identify as Christians, whereas a remarkable number of Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and Baltic Slavs do. One rather suspects that, in not a few cases, their Orthodoxy is not unlike the Catholic Atheism of Charles Maurras and the more educated mambers of l’Action Française, but their views pn Jews and gays are traditional enough, Even among the highly cultured habitués of the Paris Exarchate [the Evlogy or Rue Daru Connection] many tend to depict the Russian Revolution as the work of “cosmopolitan, anti-Christian elements,” which one rather suspects is a periphrasis for “Jewish”

    As for the Balkans, in Bulgaria, it is the literature of the small religious parties (Orthodox) that has the engaging habit of referring to their Muslim fellow-citizens as “Turks” and that hint at some form of repatriation. It would be fanciful to suggest that such attitudes are uncommon in Serbia or Macedonia.

  • anzlyne says:

    LRA is a distraction from this discussion I think. LRA is not a major world religion or movement or philosophy that actually appeals to lots of people.
    The categories mentioned are not a Threat to others– except for Islam because of their imperative to convert or kill us.
    As I understand it, some of the other violence between religious groups and cultural groups is not explained as growing out of their religious beliefs strictly speaking, but arise because of cultural and economic factors; generational traditions even of hate and distrust– And sinfulness all the way around.
    But not religious doctrine…only Islam.

  • anzlyne says:

    The merit of the message “Coexist?”
    I read it again more carefully. Gosh sometimes I’m slow. So…the author is saying the symbol word Coexist blames intolerance on Christians and the author thinks Christian religion is falsely blamed here.
    and I think Michael thinks Christians are a threat to others. Maybe so, but not because of their religion, maybe because of economic or other issues.
    I agree there is no such thing as “gay rights”.
    Gay men and lesbians do have a right to life, and Islam would kill them as infidels along with Jews and Christians and all the other nom Islamists.
    Pacifists – whether Jewish, Christian, Gay, Pagan, Taoists are not tolerated by Islam because the all those categories are summed up as infidel.
    Islam can kill gays, Jews and Christians. I don’t understand why the author even mentions pacifists who support islam– sort of an oxymoron.

    It is an attention getting bumper sticker though

  • Chris Pennington says:

    But they do not identify as Christians

    No, they regard themselves as Muslims and speak out openly against Jews and gay people. Much more so than any Christians in Russia, Ukraine or Belarus do.

    As for the Balkans, in Bulgaria, it is the literature of the small religious parties (Orthodox) that has the engaging habit of referring to their Muslim fellow-citizens as “Turks”

    If Bulgarians use the term “Turk” as a derogatoy term I do not know, but I suspect in some cases it is so and unfortunate. It is an obvious reference to the occupation and brutality inflicted on Bulgaria by the Ottoman empire.

    The fact is in Bulgaria the forced conversion of Christians to Islam is still a deep wound. In addition many of the Muslims in Bulgaria (not all) feel a greater kinship to Turkey than Bulgaria.

    Bringing up the Balkans, Caucuses or Bulgaria as a “one liner” doesn’t do justice to the history and struggles of those people during the invasion and occupation by the Ottoman empire and it’s aftermath. Whether its Serbs, Bulgarians or other Christians in those areas history has been re-written and they have been defamed and painted the “bad-guys” in our western media.

  • Valentin says:

    The co-exist group is incredibly ignorant and disrespectful in the way that they can’t recognise the distinction between Pagans, Catholics, Dualists, Muslims, and Rabbinic Jews.

  • Valentin says:

    Michael considering what the Muslim Turks did in Europe for 300 hundred years I would not hesitate to call Muslims Turks. Muslims for 300 hundred years before the Crusades oppresed much of Europe as well as North Africa and Jerusalem. The Crusades were multiple attempts to keep Muslims from killing Catholic and Eastern Orthodox pilgrims which happened often.

  • Valentin says:

    Michael The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox get killed all over the place in the Orient and Central Asia There are tonnes of Church bombings in Iraq, Eastern Orthodox people in Russia get death threats from Muslims and Croats and Serbs have to deal with all sorts of crap from Bosnians who have this insatiable hate for Serbs.

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour says:

    Anzlyne wrote “As I understand it, some of the other violence between religious groups and cultural groups is not explained as growing out of their religious beliefs strictly speaking, but arise because of cultural and economic factors; generational traditions even of hate and distrust– And sinfulness all the way around.”

    That is certainly true. I was merely arguing that Christians are not exempt from this tendency, which appears to be a perennial temptation. I am often struck by a rather amusing example of the way in which old prejudices mutate to survive. In France, where I spend a lot of time, highly cultured young Catholics including priests and religious, can be found, vicariously repenting the perceived anti-semitism of their forebears, only to indulge in a revamped version of it themselves. For them, Evil is represented by the Unholy Trinity of the United States/Israel/the West, all Virtue being embodied in the “dominated and the oppressed,” of whom the Palestinians have become the emblem. Thus, the old stereotypes are recycled, such as the rich Jew and the dominating Jew, all under a varnish of progressivism. The Jew is once more the stand-in for capitalism, imperialism, cosmopolitanism, indeed the whole economic order they detest.

  • Art Deco says:

    In France, where I spend a lot of time, highly cultured young Catholics including priests and religious, can be found, vicariously repenting the perceived anti-semitism of their forebears, only to indulge in a revamped version of it themselves. For them, Evil is represented by the Unholy Trinity of the United States/Israel/the West, all Virtue being embodied in the “dominated and the oppressed

    France is France. Even so, I am skeptical. I think if you want to understand a similar phenomenon in this country you might read Thomas Sowell’s Vision of the Anointed or Paul Hollandar’s Political Pilgrims or some of Steven Sailer’s recent writings on “leapfrogging loyalties”. I think if you really got into the foetid space inside their heads, you would discover that Israel-bashers suffer not one whit from religious or cultural anti-Semitism, and that is as true among soi-disant Catholics as any other sort of Israel-basher. Their political commentary is an exercise in self-aggrandizement and their true targets are in their own vicinity, not in the Near East. (This is speculative, of course). It is amusing to watch these shnooks alternate between functional pacifism and advocacy on behalf of one of the more malicious and repulsive particularisms on this planet.

  • Scott W. says:

    Well, the message of the original sticker isn’t so much “Coexist” as it is, “Be indifferent”. In other words, it recalls John Lenon’s pile of excrement, “Imagine”.

  • T. Shaw says:

    Kudos to Scott W. My nominee for comment of the day!

    Whenever I see that BS (or its execrable cousin: “9/11 Was An Inside Job”), the following silent Tourrettes Syndrome outburst runs through what is left of my brain: “Lump of feces for brains!”

    Of course, my brain screams the Anglo-Saxon translation for “feces.”

  • Foxfier says:

    *snort* That ain’t the Church, dude, that’s France (and possibly “Europe”)– and pretty standard leftism.
    A good rule of thumb is that if the general population of a country does something, and the Catholic minority also does something, and it’s not part of Catholic doctrine, it’s probably cultural.

    I believe the popular working explanation for Europe’s (and our own left-elite) Israel-type-Jew hate is a nasty hangover from the world wars. Israel is pretty muscular, and it’s easier to blame strength for the nastiness than the philosophies that they’re still sympathetic to; thing is you’ve got to be openly muscular and fully first world to “count.”

  • Joe Green says:

    Scott, why is it a “pile of excrement” to seek world peace and share with those less fortunate? What’s wrong with this stanza?:

    “Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger a brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing for the world”

    It’s Lennon, by the way. 2 n’s.

  • Manure is sweet smelling by comparison to these stanzas:

    “Imagine there’s no heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people living for today

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace”

    John Lennon, most over rated man of the last century.

  • Joe Green says:

    Don, I’d give that title perhaps to Winston Churchill.

    If you’re into parody, Elton John, who apparently thought Lennon a hypocrite, wrote this:

    Imagine six apartments
    It isn’t hard to do
    One is full of fur coats
    The other’s full of shoes

  • “Imagine six apartments
    It isn’t hard to do
    One is full of fur coats
    The other’s full of shoes”

    John Lennon was a complete materialist. He wanted as much material items as he could before he died and he got his wish. Of course he got Yoko Ono also, so there is justice in this world after all!

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour says:

    Art Deco & Foxfier

    There is something in what you say. Alain Finkielkraut has argued that European unity is constructed around a series of ‘never agains.’ No more war, nor power, nor empire, nor nationalism. Progressive Europe has disavowed its embarrassing past. This makes it ill at ease with a state, Israel, that clings to its borders just as Europe renounces its own, that nurtures its army just as Europe demilitarizes, and that must combat implacable enemies just as Europe denies such things exist

    The reason I think there is more to it, where young Catholics are concerned is that, whilst the reasons change, the target is constant. At 67, I am old enough to remember Catholics arguing that the Revolution was a Jewish and Masonic conspiracy against Throne and Altar, that the Dreyfus affair was a plot to discredit the largely Catholic officer corps, that Philippe Pétain (whom they always referred to as “le Maréchal”) saved France from the Jewish-inspired Communists. Now, the politics are different, but the object is still the Jews

  • Joe Green says:

    “His blood be on us, and on our children” – Matthew 27:25, The blood libel was only the beginning.
    Here’s what Martin Luther had to say in “The Jews and Their Lies” in 1543:

    “What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? . . . . . . I shall give you my sincere advice: First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. . . . . . . Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. . . . . . . Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. . . . . . . . Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. ******** Fifth, I advise that safe ¬conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. ********* Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. **********Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Go-yim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.”

  • “I know you’re not a fan of Hitchens, who took him down a couple of pegs but still considered him a “great man.””

    Actually Joe I referred to Hitchens on one occasion as the man I most detested who I agreed with a fair amount of the time. As to his judgment on individuals, his loathsome attacks on Mother Teresa speak for themselves as to his lack of balance when it came to judging the merits and demerits of others. Churchill was far from flawless, but he met the great challenge of his time and gave his nation “their finest hour.”

  • Art Deco says:

    Now, the politics are different, but the object is still the Jews

    No, the object in the one case was the domestic Jewish bourgeoisie, who were something of a social and cultural challenge in certain countries (Poland, Hungary) or occupied neuralgic spots in the social economy (Roumania). The object today is Israel, the inhabitants of which are not peddling psychoanalysis in Budapest or consumer credit in Wilno or renting land outside Koloszvar. Israel is self-confident and butch, and that is an anathema to certain sorts.

  • Anzlyne says:

    Michael I hear you. I don’t know why they are the target, but it seems to always be so. Perhaps it is just that they are what they have always known themselves to be, a people set apart.
    And we, called to holiness, in Christ, are also called to be a people set apart….but lately we Christians are resisting distinction from the rest of the world.

    Defend borders (Israel). Blur borders (Europe). Progressive Europe becoming more and more borderless. As Scott says in his comment the COEXIST symbol word is about indifference. No distinction, nod definition, borderless. Progressive Europe is willing to be indiffernt to it’s Christian inheritance. (Indistinct from Turkey).
    Europe is disavowing it’s embarrassing past, not seeing the beauty and grace of it’s own growth– being perhaps a bit too much like Luther, losing hope, overwhelmed by depravity.
    I hate to hear the dismissive tone against France, the “eldest daughter” of the Church. Like my own prodigal son, she may have left the hearth, but, please God, not for ever. Christian hope does spring eternal in the Catholic breast.

    When I listened to John Lennon’s ‘Imagine” years ago I was a bit troubled by the lyrics, but I didn’t want to think about that. I wanted to go along with the wistful ‘can’t everybody just get along” idea behind it. In other Beatles songs, too, there seemed to be the hope that somehow everything would be all right for everybody. That’s why they had a bigger following than the Doors :)
    Convoluted to be sure, but it seemed there was a kind of Catholic influence on Liverpudlians John and Paul.
    They, like me, came out of childhood smack in the middle of the 2oth century, a century when the devil wreaked havoc with mixed messages, even from representatives of the Catholic Church.

  • Mary De Voe says:

    Paul W. Primavera says:
    Tuesday, June 19, 2012 A.D. at 6:21am
    Suggestion: make paper copies and put them on the windshields of parked cars which sport the COEXIST number sticker. That’ll get the point across.

    Liberal. Progressive. Democrat! That’s what this “COEXIST” is all about.

    Paul: I am going to do that. We have one of these whackos with her bumper sticker teaching at our Catholic School.

  • Mary De Voe says:

    “Now, the politics are different, but the object is still the Jews”

    The Jews carry the Book with the promise of a Savior and the Ten Commandments, therein. To tyrannize people, this Book, its promise, and the Ten Commandments must be obliterated.

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour says:

    Anzlyne

    “I hate to hear the dismissive tone against France, the “eldest daughter” of the Church…”

    Even over the past century, the contribution of France to the universal church has been simply enormous. It has produced philosophers like Blondel and Maritain and theologians like Maréchal and Bouyer, the Dominicans, Chenu and Congar and the Jesuits, Daniélou and de Lubac.

    Perhaps most typical of the French School of Spirituality was the great historian of the devotional life, Abbé Henri Brémond. His response to the secularism of his age is to be found in his essays, “Prière et Poésie” [Prayer and Poetry] and “Introduction a la Philosophie de la Prière” [Introduction to the Philosophy of Prayer]. His monumental work “Histoire litteraire du sentiment religieux en France depuis la fin des guerres de religion jusqu’a nos jours” [A Literary History of Religious Sentiment in France from the end of the Wars of Rekigion to our own day] published between 1913 and 1936 in 11 volumes, was based on his unrivalled knowledge of mystical writings and devotional works, many previously unpublished. It is a measure of his influence that his writings on poetry, symbolism and romanticism earned him election to the Académie française in 1923 and a eulogy from the Symbolist poet, Paul Valéry.

    I mention Brémond at length, because no area has been more neglected by English-speaking theologians than the interior life. We have Dom Cuthbert Butler’s “Western Mysticism,” Abbot Chapman and Thomas Merton and that is pretty well it. We are indebted to Anglican scholars for the rediscover of Walter Hilton, “The Cloud of Unknowing” and the Lady Julian of Norwich.

  • Valentin says:

    Michael Seymour there multiple reasons fro antisemitism which I have heard of one which does not limit itself to Jews anymore but used to is their disrespect for justice when it comes in conflict with family issues so if a Jew had a brother who stole from the butcher and the butcher called him out calling a petty thief the Jew would probably go up to the butcher punch him in the face and say “Don’t talk about my family like that” the other reason that there is antisemitism was because of Jewish disloyalty during the Crusades where the Jews would sell Christian slaves to the Muslims and Muslim slaves to the Christians.

  • Valentin says:

    Mary De Voe one of my favorite quotes from Winston Churchill is this “democracy is the worst form of government except all the others we have tried”.

  • The actual reason for anti-Semitism Valentin is rank stupidity, along with jealously of the success of Jews, coupled with the cruel joy of attacking defenseless people. During the Crusades some Crusaders disgraced themselves by pillaging and murdering Jews. They were condemned by the Popes and such great saints as Saint Bernard of Clairvaux. Anti-Semitism is the conspiracy theory of choice for morons. Avoid it like the plague.

  • Valentin says:

    I know most anti semitism is stupid but it is most certainly not true that the Jews never were cruel themselves GK Chesterton even commented on people calling him anti-semitic because he simply disagreed with their attitude towards justice which I mentioned beforehand, and it can’t be denied that many of the Jews were ruthless to the Apostles they of course were different Jews but it seems ridiculous to claim that all rabbinic Jews have never done anything wrong causing a general hatred for Jews. I watched a documentary on the terrible things in Auschwitz and one of the reasons a former Slovakian guard gave for sending Jews to Auschwitz was because they never integrated into society and lazed at home he than pointed out that many of the Jews he sent off were innocent children though.

  • Valentin says:

    I will point out that we are much closer to the Jews of the old Testament than Rabinnic Jews but Rabbinic Jews next to Eastern Orthodox peoples and African Jews are the closest brothers as far as religion is concerned.

  • G.K. Chesterton was rather crazy when it came to Jews. For example, he thought that Jews should be denied citizenship. To his credit he spoke out against Hitler, but Chesterton is no authority to cite on the Jews other than as an example of how a brilliant mind had some unsavory recesses. I am quite fond of Chesterton and most of his writings, but when it came to the Jews he was an idiot. The Apostles were Jews Valentin as was Christ. A good many Jews became Christians after the crucifixion, and some who did not, Gamaliel for example, spoke out against persecuting the Christians. The Slovakian guard was attempting to justify a crime that cries out to God for vengeance. He deserves only contempt.

  • Valentin says:

    I would like to point out Don that I don’t hate the Jews I just hate the way some of them have acted, some evidence is that the girl I dance with most often at school dances during the Virginia Reel is Jewish a very pretty and cheerful Jewish diplomate at that.

  • Valentin says:

    Good point Donald although I think it was either Peter or Paul who was a Roman who had killed many Jews and Catholics before he converted. Peter was also the the one who was beaten till he passed out in the sun for eating a pig his reasoning being that God made it holy for him to eat pork but the Jewish boy didn’t like that and so a crowd beat him up but he just walked it off which he was able to do as having been a Roman soldier before.

  • OzCatholic says:

    I love this picture!
    I am new to this site and as my handle suggests, I live in Australia.
    As an ex U2 fan (I was a fan for more than 25 years but Bono’s hypocrisy got too much along with how boring and less adventurous their music became) I always found the Coexist portrait he was fond of putting up at concerts quite incongrous. Did he have any idea of how impractical coexistence would be. I found it hard to articulate but the blog post has done it for me. Many thanks!
    PS: I came back to my Roman catholic faith after 20 years. I was born a Catholic.

  • Paul was a Jew of Tarsus and a Roman citizen. He took pride in being both as well as being a Christian after he converted. I do not recall Peter being beaten for eating a pig, you might be thinking of his vision of eating unclean food which convinced him that the dietary restrictions of Jews should not be imposed upon gentile converts. Peter had been a Galilean fisherman and was never enlisted in the Roman legions.

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