Lying Worst Governor in the Country

Imagine California without the sunshine, New York without the cultural elan, New Jersey without Chris Christie. That’s Illinois.

I have previously deemed the Governor of Illinois, Patrick Quinn (D.), the worst governor in the country.  Go here to read the post in which I bestowed the title.  After his meeting with the Illinois bishops on Friday December 16, 2011, I have attached “Lying” to his title.  The bishops asked for the meeting to protest the constant pro-abortion advocacy of Quinn.  After the meeting here is what Quinn said:

“A lot of the discussion was how we could work together to fight poverty, help the people who are less fortunate and need a helping hand,” Quinn told the Sun-Times as he left a Christmas toy give-away on the Far South Side. “Getting people jobs, helping people who don’t have enough food to eat — that’s what the church’s social mission is all about.”

This was too much for the bishops and they released the following statement:

We are grateful to have had the opportunity to meet with Governor Quinn. We share the Governor’s concern for the poor.  From our point of view, however, this was a meeting between pastors and a member of the Church to discuss the principles of faith, not the works of faith. On several occasions, the Governor has referred to his Catholic conscience and faith as the justification for certain political decisions.   As Catholic pastors, we wanted to remind the Governor that conscience, while always free, is properly formed in harmony with the tradition of the Church, as defined by Scripture and authentic teaching authority. A personal conscience that is not consistent with authentic Catholic teaching is not a Catholic conscience. The Catholic faith cannot be used to justify positions contrary to the faith itself. It is a matter of personal integrity for people who call themselves Catholic to act in a manner that is consistent with the teachings of the Catholic Church. In addition, since he holds a highly visible and influential position, the Governor’s statements about conscience or other matters of faith can affect many other people for whose spiritual care bishops are responsible.   This concern on our part, as pastors of the Church, was the fundamental and primary topic of our conversation with Governor Quinn.

I give a half-hearted bravo to the bishops.  I will give bravoes until the rafters quake if they finally decide to excommunicate Quinn.  However, I fear all we will get out of the bishops is endless words, and Quinn will go merrily on his way.

14 Responses to Lying Worst Governor in the Country

  • To our Bishops:

    “…When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. ” 1st Corinthians 5:4b-5.

    To the “peepul”:

    “When [the crowd of 5000 that had been fed the loaves and fishes] found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him, ‘Rabbi, when did you come here?’ Jesus answered them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, you seek me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of man will give to you; for on him has God the Father set his seal.'” John 6:25-27

    To Governors Quinn and Cuomo:

    “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.'” Matthew 7:21-23

    PS, Donald, remember that if Patrick Quinn is the worst, then Andy Cuomo is a close second.

  • In NY, even pro-lifers have to run as pro-choicers to win. 6 of the last 7 post-Roe governors were Catholic (Eliot Spizter is the exception). Only the first, Malcolm Wilson, was pro-life. Hugh Carey announced he was pro-life after leaving office. Mario Cuomo famously started the whole “personally pro-life but publicly pro-choice” charade. George Pataki says he was pro-choice but he had a consistent pro-life record. I don’t think David Paterson or Andrew Cuomo even attend Mass regularly. They both supported abortion, gay marriage, and defunding Catholic schools. Paterson’s chief-of-staff was an ex-Jesuit.

  • What on earth is getting into the Bishops these days?! They have our local nuns actually participating in specific parishes– they were doing a musical-chairs thing before, in some pattern I couldn’t catch– my mom’s parish has a priest that actually speaks English well enough to converse with his flock, our new Bishop is actually organizing regular big to-dos for reconciliation, and now these Bishops are actually responding to the “personal conscience” shtick?

    It’s enough to make you break out in hope.

  • Interestingly enough, Illinois political blogger Rich Miller, hardly a conservative by any definition, had this to say about the bishops’ flap:

    “This is far more about Quinn publicly saying that his Catholic faith is influencing his decisions than about the bishops whacking him over making decisions contrary to that faith.

    “As I’ve noted before, if Quinn accepted an endorsement from, say, the pro-choice Personal PAC and then used that endorsement to justify signing an anti-abortion bill into law, Personal PAC would be outraged and rightly so. This latest uproar isn’t much different.

    “And I say this, by the way, as someone who is not a Catholic and never was. Groups that politicians associate with have a right to defend themselves when politicians use them to justify a position that the groups oppose. It’s really as simple as that.”

    Actually, Paul, I would still rank Quinn a close second to Cuomo for the simple reason that Cuomo, in addition to being pro-abort and pro-gay marriage, ALSO flouts Church teaching on marriage by living openly with a woman to whom he is not married. I have yet to see any indication that Quinn (who has been divorced for over 20 years and has not remarried) is doing the same, other than his having brought a lady friend to his inaugural ball. He does a good job of keeping his private life private.

  • Donald, the Bishops need not even tell this man he is excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Anyone who calls himself a Catholic and supports, accepts or participates in passing Legislations which is anti-God and contrary to the Teaching Authority of the Church, AUTOMATICALLY excommunicates himself/herself from the Church. All these public characters who claim to be Catholic and are championing evil agendas such as abortion, same-sex cohabitations, euthanasia, destruction of the Institution of Matrimony and the latest madness from Planned Parenthood of introducing and encouraging self-abuse which is called mastrubation to our pre-puberty kids are already outside the Catholic Church. Their Bishops or even the Vatican does not have to climb onto the Pulpit to announce this. Every well-informed Catholic knows this quite well. So, Donald, do not berate your Bishops. I have no doubt they told that Governor EXACTLY and CLEARLY that he is outside the Catholic Church, his false claims that he is a Catholic notwithstanding.

  • And it matters not one whit to him Mary, and the bishops go along with the charade and treat him as a member of the flock. Only public excommunication will do for a public official who claims to be a Catholic while publicly defying the teaching of the Church on abortion. The scandal of course is that this problem is almost four decades old in this country and no elected official has been excommunicated for being a pro-abort. The bishops tell us that abortion is the most important moral issue confronting us today, and they are right to say so. However, their actions in this area argue otherwise.

  • I am sad, Donald, to hear that the American Bishops treat these fake Catholics as members of our Holy Catholic Church. They sure need prayers and be humble enough to take the cue from our own Bishops here in Africa. In this our beloved country, Kenya, when we were debating the proposed New Constitution last year, the Catholic Church fought gallantly to have the anti-God and anti-life Clauses which had been imported by your Planned Parenthood via our local American-funded Civil Societies removed from the Draft Constitution . And our Kenyan Bishops and the Catholic Faithful, had full support from the Association of the Members of the Episcopal Conference of Eastern and Central Africa and the Catholic Faithful in all these Countries. Though we lost the battle, thanks to the powerful monetary and logistical support your Government gave to protect those evil Clauses, to the extent that your Vice-President, Biden even came here to personally campaign against us and millions of American dollars were injected onto that effort, our Catholic Public Officials and politicians, including our own President, had the common decency not to defy the Church outright. They instead publicly and repeatedly promised that those Clauses which the Church was dead against, would be deleted once the Constitution was passed into law. Thus far, we are praying they will keep their promise and institute the process of expuging those unacceptable evil Clauses from our Supreme Law.

  • I weep for the involvement of representatives of my country in perpetrating such evil in yours Mary. The Obama administration is the most anti-Catholic administration in our nation’s history, and they are intent on spreading abortion throughout the world. I, and quite a few other Americans, will do our best to defeat him at the polls in November of next year. God willing, we will succeed.

  • Donald, you have no idea how we here in Kenya – the land of his Father – are praying that he losses heavily. Yet, from the start of his campaign, the Red Flags and the Warning Bells were waving and clanging furiously but no one took any notice to ask :::…..who is this man? where did he come from? what is his real Agenda for America and the rest of the World where America has vice-grip control?….. whose “Agent”is is he? The man took America and the world by storm and whipped us into a frenzy of euphoria never witnessed in many, many years since the Hitler dizzying election in Germany. And now, see where we are…. see where America is heading…..As we pray with you also pray for our bleeding Kenya where his Cousin – who forced himself onto us to become the Prime Minister by lying that his victory was stolen – is poised to become our next President next year. And he is a million times worse that your Obama. Over 1 million people died in the post-election violence which he engineered and up to this day, more than 600,000 families are living in tattered tents exposed to the vagaries of Nature, as Internally Displaced Persons, neglected and forgotten. They were chased from their legally owned lands and homes, all their properties burned down and their loved ones murdered viciously. And this very Instigator of these mass atrocities – again with the help of your President – got his name and those of his Collaborators purged from the Evidence submitted to the International Criminal Court and instead it is the Victims who are now facing trial at the Hague falsely labelled the Aggressors. That is yet more evil and misery Obama has brought to the land of his Father.

  • I will certainly pray for your beautiful country Mary. Corrupt and evil politicians are a bane the world over.

  • They may be corrupt and evil, but Kenya’s politicians have not perpetrated a Khmer Rouge-scale death happening. Mary is exaggerating 800-fold.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11996652

  • I am saddened by you comments, Art Deco. Ethnic Cleansing in my country started in 1992, was repeated in 1997 on a larger scale and part of 1998. We were lucky in Year 2002, or so we thought. After getting rid of the KANU Party which had turned murderous after the attempted Coup of 1982, which was organized by the man we now call our Prime Minister, we were soon disillusioned when the he and his followers in the Government, started causing instability in the Government, yet our new President had come into power a sick man after a miraculous escape from death in a stage-managed car accident in the Campaigns a few months before the December 2002 Elections. From 1995 Campaign of the new Constitution, the stage was set for a major destabilization of our country along tribal lines. When the 2007 Election campaigns started the entire Nation was polarized completely and the stage was set for the major Ethnic Cleansing after the December 2007 Elections.

    If you believe I am exaggerating, Art Deco, the whole world was witness to the worst murder, arson and displacements of more than 600,000 families. The entire International Media witnessed everything. So, Art Deco, you need not believe me. Believe what the International Media filmed and recorded live as the violence erupted all over the Capital City and other major Towns, especially in our largest Province – Rift Valley – which was the empicentre of the Ethnic Cleansing which had been started in 1992. Thank you, Donald for promising to pray for us. I have been well-informed about Kenya’s Politics since I first voted as a young married bride in 1957, and the political plecibite we are about to face again during next year’s Elections calls for a miracle to avert another catastrophe. Granted, we have never approached the murderous scale of the Khmer Rouge, Art Deco, but when over 3 million people are killed in a short period of 15 years in Ethnic Cleansing, we have genuine grounds to be worried and ask for Prayers from people of goodwill like Donald.

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