Benedict Meets Privately With Vice President Biden

Vice President Joe Biden
Vice President Joe Biden was in Rome today to mark the 150th anniversary of Italy’s unification. While there, he met privately with Pope Benedict XVI. Biden is a Mass-attending Catholic who supports “abortion rights”. Many of the Catholic faithful have called for his excommunication due to his support for abortion. No official announcement has been made, as of this writing, in regard to this visit.
In February, 2009, pro-abortion Congresswoman and then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met privately with Pope Benedict XVI. The Vatican issued a statement afterward that was widely considered to be a scolding.
“His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church’s consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in co-operation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development.”
Official announcements from the Vatican are available at the Vatican Information Service blog.
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I hope for the same announcement. It’s too much to hope for: “Joe Biden excommunicated.” But that’s what St. Paul did to Hymenaeus and Alexander in 1st Timothy 1:19-20. And even worse happened to Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11, and that was for just lying, not baby murdering.
Technically, he doesn’t directly murder children. Technically, it’s more akin to lying.
So the fate of Ananias and Sapphira applies?
I’m bad – I admit it!
I cringe every single time someone at the local parish mentions him and Pelosi as “good Catholics.”
Ok, technically… what is it called when you “raise funds” (from unwilling participants) and pay other people to murder for you?
Calling Joe Biden, or any so called Catholic who supports the murder of innocent children a liar is far too kind, and borders ( I am sure unintentionally) on obfuscating the truth.
I’d call it “formal cooperation” with evil that is “manifest” with the remedy of excommunication….same as then-Cardinal Ratzinger.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-07ratzingerommunion.htm
Pope Benedict should personally excommunicate both Biden and Pelosi. The Pope has let it be known that Catholic politicians across the world “risked excommunication from the Church and should not receive communion if they support abortion.”
Another thing that riles me: Recently, we read with horror the acts of violence, including gruesome torture, against children in the Mideast, and the United Nations has called on the government to thoroughly investigate and ensure that perpetrators of such horrific acts are identified and brought to justice. Such duplicity. Where is the concern over the unborn child and, in the most gruesome act of abortion, the one who is stabbed in the back of the neck while her head remains inside her mother? Where is the concern over that child’s pain, torture and death? To Biden’s dubious credit, he did support the partial birth abortion ban, but not Pelosi.
Perhaps the Pope should have refused to meet with either one of them, in his capacity of Pope, as opposed to Head of State? Seriously, while not perfect, I have a better “prolife record” than either Biden or Pelosi, and it isn’t too likely I’d get a chance to have a private confab with my own Bishop, much less the Pope.
I would think something like that might be a wake up call.
As a faithful Catholic I will try to accept that the Pope knows what he’s doing. But I can’t understand it. There are too many detrimental effects to Vatican silence on the matter. Despite whatever the Pope may have told him, Joe Biden seems to think that he can continue to support abortion and continue to receive communion in good conscience. It seems to me that that imperils his immortal soul. Other abortion proponents within and without the Church will look at the Biden/Pelosi example and say “see, the Church does permit Catholics to support abortion and remain Catholics in good standing”. Other Catholics who don’t know what else to make of it will be hard put to refute that argument, and may be led astray. Those of us who support the Church, the Pope, the Magisterium, etc. are left vulnerable in attempting to support Church teaching against abortion, when it appears that the highest authorities of the Church won’t support that teaching by enforcing their own rules. Taking all these detrimental effects into account, it appears that the damage done by the the silence and inaction is far greater than any repercussions that might result from any excommunications. As a faithful Catholic I can only try to accept that the Pope knows what he’s doing. But I can’t understand it.
Lisa, according to you, then, “Technically, Hitler did not murder Jews. Technically, it was more akin to lying…
And the punishment for lying is pretty harsh. Just ask Ananias and Sapphira. (Acts 5:1-11)
What ever it was the “Vicar of Christ” had to say to Biden or Pelosi it had to be more relevant and to the point than anything they ever heard from the bishops who are supposed to be leading, teaching, and cleaning up the dirt in their dioceses. Thank God the pope doesn’t have to wear or hide behind the ever so popular politically correct mask used by most of our bishops
I am not sure where the lying part comes in. Biden (and Pelousy for that matter) certainly doesn’t hide his support for abortion. Neither do they lie about their ostensible religious affiliation. I suppose the lying may come in with their claim that they truly believe one can be personally opposed to abortion, politically supportive of it, and still remain a Catholic in good standing. But even then, I fear they are not lying – I think they really believe that is true. Many Catholic pols before them have held that position without repercussion.
“Many Catholic pols before them have held that positioon without repercussion.”
Matthew 7:21-23:
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Biden by supporting abortion in his capacity as a legislator is every bit as much a baby murderer Judah’s King Manasseh before him. Waffling over whether he actually murdered any baby, or is lying, or whatever is simply obfuscation of his role as a leader. Wisdom 6:1-10 makes a leader (in our case, legislators, executives and judges) MORE responsible than those who commit the actual act. So unless Biden repents, he will burn with everlasting fire. That of course is true of any and all of us, but then again, I shouldn’t have to state the obvious just to appear non-judgmental. “By the their fruits ye shall know them” and Biden’s fruits are one million murdered babies per year.