I hope for the same announcement. It’s too much to hope for: “Joe Biden excommunicated.” But that’s what St. Paul did to Hymenaeus and Alexander in 1st Timothy 1:19-20. And even worse happened to Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11, and that was for just lying, not baby murdering.

So the fate of Ananias and Sapphira applies?

I’m bad – I admit it!

Ok, technically… what is it called when you “raise funds” (from unwilling participants) and pay other people to murder for you?

Calling Joe Biden, or any so called Catholic who supports the murder of innocent children a liar is far too kind, and borders ( I am sure unintentionally) on obfuscating the truth.

Pope Benedict should personally excommunicate both Biden and Pelosi. The Pope has let it be known that Catholic politicians across the world “risked excommunication from the Church and should not receive communion if they support abortion.”

Another thing that riles me: Recently, we read with horror the acts of violence, including gruesome torture, against children in the Mideast, and the United Nations has called on the government to thoroughly investigate and ensure that perpetrators of such horrific acts are identified and brought to justice. Such duplicity. Where is the concern over the unborn child and, in the most gruesome act of abortion, the one who is stabbed in the back of the neck while her head remains inside her mother? Where is the concern over that child’s pain, torture and death? To Biden’s dubious credit, he did support the partial birth abortion ban, but not Pelosi.

As a faithful Catholic I will try to accept that the Pope knows what he’s doing. But I can’t understand it. There are too many detrimental effects to Vatican silence on the matter. Despite whatever the Pope may have told him, Joe Biden seems to think that he can continue to support abortion and continue to receive communion in good conscience. It seems to me that that imperils his immortal soul. Other abortion proponents within and without the Church will look at the Biden/Pelosi example and say “see, the Church does permit Catholics to support abortion and remain Catholics in good standing”. Other Catholics who don’t know what else to make of it will be hard put to refute that argument, and may be led astray. Those of us who support the Church, the Pope, the Magisterium, etc. are left vulnerable in attempting to support Church teaching against abortion, when it appears that the highest authorities of the Church won’t support that teaching by enforcing their own rules. Taking all these detrimental effects into account, it appears that the damage done by the the silence and inaction is far greater than any repercussions that might result from any excommunications. As a faithful Catholic I can only try to accept that the Pope knows what he’s doing. But I can’t understand it.

And the punishment for lying is pretty harsh. Just ask Ananias and Sapphira. (Acts 5:1-11)

I am not sure where the lying part comes in. Biden (and Pelousy for that matter) certainly doesn’t hide his support for abortion. Neither do they lie about their ostensible religious affiliation. I suppose the lying may come in with their claim that they truly believe one can be personally opposed to abortion, politically supportive of it, and still remain a Catholic in good standing. But even then, I fear they are not lying – I think they really believe that is true. Many Catholic pols before them have held that position without repercussion.