Comments on: Junk Science Part II http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 24 May 2012 15:40:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Anthony http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5671 Anthony Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:54:56 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5671 Hopefully this will be one more step towards scuttling plans to hamper the private sector with ever-increasing regulation... could we see both cap-and-trade and ObamaCare die in the Senate? Hopefully this will be one more step towards scuttling plans to hamper the private sector with ever-increasing regulation… could we see both cap-and-trade and ObamaCare die in the Senate?

]]> By: MikeInOhio http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5670 MikeInOhio Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:04:10 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5670 > he claims NIWA has a good explanation for adjusting the temperature data upward. Wratt says NIWA is drafting a media response for release later this afternoon which will explain why they altered the raw data. In a reliable scientific study, such adjustments would be documented, explained, and justified as part of the methodology. It would be in the original publication. To say 'we have good reasons for this, which we did not disclose before, but don't worry, we will come up with an explanation' means one thing: they got caught. > he claims NIWA has a good explanation for adjusting the temperature data upward. Wratt says NIWA is drafting a media response for release later this afternoon which will explain why they altered the raw data.

In a reliable scientific study, such adjustments would be documented, explained, and justified as part of the methodology. It would be in the original publication.

To say ‘we have good reasons for this, which we did not disclose before, but don’t worry, we will come up with an explanation’ means one thing: they got caught.

]]> By: Don the Kiwi http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5669 Don the Kiwi Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:27:16 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5669 Thanks Rick. Actually we do get large iceburgs floating past the bottom of the South island fairly regularly, some come part way up the east coast of the South Island not far from Dunedin and Christchurch, and tourist operators offer helicopter flights to them - they land on those that are stable and flat enough. But we've had a pretty wet winter as well as a cold one - so the Aussies should send out a ship and lassoe this 'burg because they've has a fairly dry winter - they could do with the water. Both the NZ and the Oz governments have been focussing on pushing through Emission Trading Schemes over the past few days, in time for the Copenhagen conference - just so they can wave and say "look at me, look at me" for doing something about CC. What I want to know is, all the extra taxes (carbon) that are going to be levied, where does the money go? Our ex PM, Helen Clark, who is now in charge of the UN Development Fund is going to give all our hard earned dollors to "third worls countries" like China and India - that's where the money goes. Clark "bought" her job with the UN by donating millions to the UNDF while she was PM, thus giving her a shoe in for the job. Its all part of a Marxist plot (Helen was a Labour -read marxist/left wing politicion, and radical feminist to boot) - wait and see. Don't have time right now to expand - will later if I can. Thanks Rick.

Actually we do get large iceburgs floating past the bottom of the South island fairly regularly, some come part way up the east coast of the South Island not far from Dunedin and Christchurch, and tourist operators offer helicopter flights to them – they land on those that are stable and flat enough.
But we’ve had a pretty wet winter as well as a cold one – so the Aussies should send out a ship and lassoe this ‘burg because they’ve has a fairly dry winter – they could do with the water.
Both the NZ and the Oz governments have been focussing on pushing through Emission Trading Schemes over the past few days, in time for the Copenhagen conference – just so they can wave and say “look at me, look at me” for doing something about CC. What I want to know is, all the extra taxes (carbon) that are going to be levied, where does the money go? Our ex PM, Helen Clark, who is now in charge of the UN Development Fund is going to give all our hard earned dollors to “third worls countries” like China and India – that’s where the money goes. Clark “bought” her job with the UN by donating millions to the UNDF while she was PM, thus giving her a shoe in for the job.
Its all part of a Marxist plot (Helen was a Labour -read marxist/left wing politicion, and radical feminist to boot) – wait and see. Don’t have time right now to expand – will later if I can.

]]> By: Rick Lugari http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5668 Rick Lugari Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:10:22 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5668 No need to fear, Don the Kiwi. God will provide! http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Recommended-Photos/ss/1750/im:/091125/ids_photos_wl/r2027530650.jpg#photoViewer=/091123/photos_ts_wl_afp/f1193aae661e08270d52b3c10ef69c98 :) No need to fear, Don the Kiwi. God will provide!

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Recommended-Photos/ss/1750/im:/091125/ids_photos_wl/r2027530650.jpg#photoViewer=/091123/photos_ts_wl_afp/f1193aae661e08270d52b3c10ef69c98
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]]> By: Donald R. McClarey http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5667 Donald R. McClarey Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:55:56 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5667 I think around the world Don science bloggers are going to be checking data that has been amassed by global warming advocates. This whole thing is beginning to stink of group think and outright fraud. I think around the world Don science bloggers are going to be checking data that has been amassed by global warming advocates. This whole thing is beginning to stink of group think and outright fraud.

]]> By: Don the Kiwi http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/25/junk-science-part-ii/#comment-5666 Don the Kiwi Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:40:37 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15246#comment-5666 Jim Salinger was fired from NIWA earlier this year, but the reason never came out into the public domain. Now the reason is obvious. The revised data seems to show similar data to the graphs I have seen on OISM.org , in refutation of the AGW scenario. Locally, we have just had the coldest October since 1945. Winter last year was the coldest since 1973 - this winter just gone was colder - we had more snow on the Southern Alps than before - some say the most in living memory. The Cabbage trees are flowering about a month early - nature's indication of a warm dry summer. Is this a proof of AGW? Nope - I recall in my lifetime this happening fairly regularly. I think this summer will be cooler than those in the 60's when I was a callow youth - those lazy hazy days of summer were warmer then, and again warmer in the 90's. Recent summers are cooler than previous. Maybe our bro's across the Tasman in Australia would disagree - they are heading for one of the worst bush fire seasons in quite some time; will be interesting to see what the AGW pundits make of it. Jim Salinger was fired from NIWA earlier this year, but the reason never came out into the public domain. Now the reason is obvious.
The revised data seems to show similar data to the graphs I have seen on OISM.org , in refutation of the AGW scenario.
Locally, we have just had the coldest October since 1945. Winter last year was the coldest since 1973 – this winter just gone was colder – we had more snow on the Southern Alps than before – some say the most in living memory. The Cabbage trees are flowering about a month early – nature’s indication of a warm dry summer.
Is this a proof of AGW?
Nope – I recall in my lifetime this happening fairly regularly. I think this summer will be cooler than those in the 60′s when I was a callow youth – those lazy hazy days of summer were warmer then, and again warmer in the 90′s. Recent summers are cooler than previous.
Maybe our bro’s across the Tasman in Australia would disagree – they are heading for one of the worst bush fire seasons in quite some time; will be interesting to see what the AGW pundits make of it.

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