Comments on: Chris Matthews Talks Down A Bishop http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Greta http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29574 Greta Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:14:26 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29574 Mathews point was that JFK made a statement which he seems to think is equal to canon law or the non negotiable teaching of the Catholic Church. JFK was first of all president back at a time before Roe and there is no proof he would have been a pro abortion president. He was also a well known to be bringing women into the white house, had negotiated with the mob to kill Castro and had approved the murder of the President of South Vietnam. He was also a known liar on his support of civil rights and tried everything possible to stay out of the civil rights issue even faced with the lynching of blacks. His state was about as racist as Mississippi as witnessed when they were forced to bus white and black kids and almost had riots. But Mathews is quoting JFK like this is the position of the Catholic Church in how it should teach the responsibility of Catholic politicians to follow Church teaching. This alone shows how warped Mathews understanding of his faith is and how lost his soul must be at this point. We need to pray for Mathews and support a bishop who tries to save the soul of Patrick Kennedy. His harping on what the bishop would write into law could have been answered if Mathews had given any chance for the bishop to respond. As to what criminal penalties should be, the bishop was right that this was not his job, but he could have responded by asking Mathews what a thug who kills a black child in a Chicago ghetto should receive for both are killing children. Does he think the thug should be told it is legal and OK and that the federal government should fund the thugs cost with a large profit with Mathews tax money? What about a white lynch mob who kills a black child by horrible means such as pulling their arms and legs off and ripping off the childs head? What should this lynch mob get? that it is legal and should have federal protection and funding? What about a person who takes a child in as a slave today? Should slavery be legal and funded? Why does Mathews think it is OK to kill an innocent child with abortion and that no one should face punishment over this crime? Mathews point was that JFK made a statement which he seems to think is equal to canon law or the non negotiable teaching of the Catholic Church. JFK was first of all president back at a time before Roe and there is no proof he would have been a pro abortion president. He was also a well known to be bringing women into the white house, had negotiated with the mob to kill Castro and had approved the murder of the President of South Vietnam. He was also a known liar on his support of civil rights and tried everything possible to stay out of the civil rights issue even faced with the lynching of blacks. His state was about as racist as Mississippi as witnessed when they were forced to bus white and black kids and almost had riots. But Mathews is quoting JFK like this is the position of the Catholic Church in how it should teach the responsibility of Catholic politicians to follow Church teaching. This alone shows how warped Mathews understanding of his faith is and how lost his soul must be at this point. We need to pray for Mathews and support a bishop who tries to save the soul of Patrick Kennedy.
His harping on what the bishop would write into law could have been answered if Mathews had given any chance for the bishop to respond. As to what criminal penalties should be, the bishop was right that this was not his job, but he could have responded by asking Mathews what a thug who kills a black child in a Chicago ghetto should receive for both are killing children. Does he think the thug should be told it is legal and OK and that the federal government should fund the thugs cost with a large profit with Mathews tax money? What about a white lynch mob who kills a black child by horrible means such as pulling their arms and legs off and ripping off the childs head? What should this lynch mob get? that it is legal and should have federal protection and funding? What about a person who takes a child in as a slave today? Should slavery be legal and funded? Why does Mathews think it is OK to kill an innocent child with abortion and that no one should face punishment over this crime?

]]> By: Dale Price http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29573 Dale Price Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:54:53 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29573 Couldn't care less, Todd. Really couldn't. "Arguments" like Paula's presume Tobin and the Borg collective "the Bishops" are acting in bad faith. She came, she saw, she pontificated. Mission accomplished. Couldn’t care less, Todd. Really couldn’t.

“Arguments” like Paula’s presume Tobin and the Borg collective “the Bishops” are acting in bad faith.

She came, she saw, she pontificated. Mission accomplished.

]]> By: Joe Hargrave http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29572 Joe Hargrave Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29572 Todd, What exactly do you think you're going to accomplish here? Have you ever changed a mind? Todd,

What exactly do you think you’re going to accomplish here? Have you ever changed a mind?

]]> By: Donald R. McClarey http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29571 Donald R. McClarey Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:55:53 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29571 "I’m not impressed." Somehow we'll have to soldier on Todd. “I’m not impressed.”

Somehow we’ll have to soldier on Todd.

]]> By: Todd http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29570 Todd Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:52:05 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29570 You seem to think this is about Paula. It's not. It's about your commentariat: "Fixed it for you, Paula ... Does your middle name begin with K ... Is Paula Al Gore? ... " Like it or not, the world is a tough place. You can try to insulate yourselves on the internet in safe little groups. I'm not impressed. Nor is the pc-speak "troll" very persuasive. All the term means is a commenter who speaks outside the echo chamber. Catholics can and should take the higher ground. You had a better way to deal with her and her argument. Bishop Tobin had better options, too. Mr Matthews wasn't as hard on him as he could have been. Last word, guys: it's all yours. You seem to think this is about Paula. It’s not. It’s about your commentariat: “Fixed it for you, Paula … Does your middle name begin with K … Is Paula Al Gore? … ”

Like it or not, the world is a tough place. You can try to insulate yourselves on the internet in safe little groups. I’m not impressed.

Nor is the pc-speak “troll” very persuasive. All the term means is a commenter who speaks outside the echo chamber. Catholics can and should take the higher ground. You had a better way to deal with her and her argument. Bishop Tobin had better options, too. Mr Matthews wasn’t as hard on him as he could have been.

Last word, guys: it’s all yours.

]]> By: Tito Edwards http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/24/chris-matthews-talks-down-a-bishop/#comment-29569 Tito Edwards Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:18:24 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=15162#comment-29569 Todd, Did you vote for President Obama in the last election? Todd,

Did you vote for President Obama in the last election?

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