Comments on: Would a Catholic political party be a good thing? http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John J Curti http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25712 John J Curti Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:08:06 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25712 Morals need to be restored into the political system otherwise societal chaos will come. Religion and politics do not mix because One teaches the truth while the other is deceptive. I strongly believe that the forbidden fruit Adam & Eve partook was politics. The first part of the first death was their descention from paradise to this world. Life is wonded by original sin. This life is the consequence of this sin. God said, "evil is already destroyed now it is for all mankind to echo that expression. No. 1 lie: Conservatism & Liberalism are not inimical forces. They are as compatable as Mind & Will. Be conservative in thought & Liberal in action, not the other way around. No. 2 Lie: Seperation of Church & State, not so in the constitution. The seperate & equal powers of the legislature, Executive & the Judicial make up the government but what should as well be recognized is Religion Family & Government which make up a greater entity ie CIVILIZATION. It was through the civilized that these came to be. the American form of government is the oldest in the world. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is the greatest document divised by man. It has brought us the most powerful nation on earth. It recognizes God as the giver of our rights. once again America must rise up against the socialist who are trying to take over. If there is ever going to be a world government, America should be at the helm Morals need to be restored into the political system otherwise societal chaos will come. Religion and politics do not mix because One teaches the truth while the other is deceptive. I strongly believe that the forbidden fruit Adam & Eve partook was politics. The first part of the first death was their descention from paradise to this world. Life is wonded by original sin. This life is the consequence of this sin. God said, “evil is already destroyed now it is for all mankind to echo that expression. No. 1 lie: Conservatism & Liberalism are not inimical forces. They are as compatable as Mind & Will. Be conservative in thought & Liberal in action, not the other way around. No. 2 Lie: Seperation of Church & State, not so in the constitution. The seperate & equal powers of the legislature, Executive & the Judicial make up the government but what should as well be recognized is Religion Family & Government which make up a greater entity ie CIVILIZATION. It was through the civilized that these came to be. the American form of government is the oldest in the world. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is the greatest document divised by man. It has brought us the most powerful nation on earth. It recognizes God as the giver of our rights. once again America must rise up against the socialist who are trying to take over. If there is ever going to be a world government, America should be at the helm

]]> By: Here and There « the other side of silence http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25711 Here and There « the other side of silence Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:36:14 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25711 [...] Zach @ American Catholic asks: “Would a Catholic political party be a good thing?” [...] [...] Zach @ American Catholic asks: “Would a Catholic political party be a good thing?” [...]

]]> By: Ric Stoliker http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25710 Ric Stoliker Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:10:27 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25710 Of course there should be a Catholic Party!! Look around...before the end of this century...America will have a mostly Catholic Hispanic majority!! The Anglo-Saxon protestant dominated poltical concensus will soon be a memory...the election of Obama is a sign post of these changes. However the "Great Recession" and the continued decline of the capital driven economy is evidence that the transition may be rough and costly..especially for the poor and middle class. We live in an oligarchy...driven by profits and imperial power. To refuse to organize politicaly is to abandon the people of the Western Hemisphere to the greed and corruption of the Dems and Repubs...THAT would be a sin!! We need a faith based party...NOW more then ever!!! Of course there should be a Catholic Party!! Look around…before the end of this century…America will have a mostly Catholic Hispanic majority!! The Anglo-Saxon protestant dominated poltical concensus will soon be a memory…the election of Obama is a sign post of these changes. However the “Great Recession” and the continued decline of the capital driven economy is evidence that the transition may be rough and costly..especially for the poor and middle class. We live in an oligarchy…driven by profits and imperial power. To refuse to organize politicaly is to abandon the people of the Western Hemisphere to the greed and corruption of the Dems and Repubs…THAT would be a sin!! We need a faith based party…NOW more then ever!!!

]]> By: Zach http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25709 Zach Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:07:11 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25709 I may not have stated my contention clearly enough. I think that a Catholic political party would be a bad thing in any circumstance. I may not have stated my contention clearly enough. I think that a Catholic political party would be a bad thing in any circumstance.

]]> By: Phillip http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25708 Phillip Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:13:51 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25708 I think it would be problematic. There are Catholic moral principles and then there is concrete application to particular problems. I think even beyond the left/right divide this would result in division and further splitting. Not to mention the necessary compromise that politics requires that is not moral cooperation and would offend a number of faithful as not being sufficiently "Catholic." I think it would be problematic. There are Catholic moral principles and then there is concrete application to particular problems. I think even beyond the left/right divide this would result in division and further splitting. Not to mention the necessary compromise that politics requires that is not moral cooperation and would offend a number of faithful as not being sufficiently “Catholic.”

]]> By: Pinky http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25707 Pinky Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:01:25 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/22/would-a-catholic-political-party-be-a-good-thing/#comment-25707 At the risk of being flippant, we need <i>two</i> Catholic parties in the US, the Democratic and Republican. Eric is right that there's too great a difference between the orthodox Catholic right and orthodox Catholic left to fit into one party. That's fine; the Church is supposed to be so big that all the birds of the air can nest in its branches. And the Church is on shaky ground when it gets too overtly involved in politics (think Italian history). We individual Catholics need to make the organizations we belong to more Catholic. In the recent health care debate, some Catholic Democrats were being forthrightly pro-life. I've heard Catholic Republicans talking about how to best help the poor. These are promising signs. At the risk of being flippant, we need two Catholic parties in the US, the Democratic and Republican.

Eric is right that there’s too great a difference between the orthodox Catholic right and orthodox Catholic left to fit into one party. That’s fine; the Church is supposed to be so big that all the birds of the air can nest in its branches. And the Church is on shaky ground when it gets too overtly involved in politics (think Italian history).

We individual Catholics need to make the organizations we belong to more Catholic. In the recent health care debate, some Catholic Democrats were being forthrightly pro-life. I’ve heard Catholic Republicans talking about how to best help the poor. These are promising signs.

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