Nidal Malik Hasan: What Did the Feds Know Prior to the Massacre?

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Lots of disturbing facts coming out as to information possessed by the Federal government about  the alleged shooter Nidal Malik Hasan prior to the Fort Hood Massacre.

1.    Internet postings:   At least six months ago Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement authorities regarding internet postings about suicide bombings. 

2.    Attempts to contact al-Qaeda:  US intelligence officials knew for months that Hasan was attempting to contact al-Qaeda operatives.  Apparently the Army was informed of these attempts by Hasan to contact al_Qaeda.  The inquiry was dropped last year because the feds decided that there was no indication he would become violent.  (I guess they were wrong about that.)

3.    Comments made to fellow officers:  Colonel Terry Lee who worked with Hasan makes clear in the above video that Hasan was not shy about making pro-jihadi comments to other officers.    At Walter Reed he gave a lecture to dozens of doctors in which he said that non-believers in Islam should be beheaded and boiling oil forced down their throats (presumably before the beheading), in addition to being condemned to Hell.  For good measure he also said that unbelievers should be set on fire, although after the the boiling oil and the beheading that strikes me as redundant.  I find it difficult to believe that Hasan’s superiors would not have been aware of this type of behavior by him.

4.    Attempts to proselytize: Hasan was disciplined at Walter Reed for attempting to proselytize his Muslim faith to patients and colleagues.

Taking all this together, all that was lacking was Hasan wearing a t-shirt saying “I Heart Jihad”.  Why in the world did the Army continue to have Hasan at a base where he had daily contact with troops coming to and from Iraq and Afghanistan?  Did the base commander at Fort Hood know any of this?  Had base security been briefed regarding Hasan?  Was Hasan under surveillance?  This affair requires a detailed investigation and heads should roll for anyone who did nothing after having the facts before him.  It is bad enough for this type of murderous rampage to occur, but to have clear warning signs and no action taken to prevent this tragedy is simply obscene.  We owe it to his victims, especially the men, women and unborn child Hasan is alleged to have murdered, to do everything in our power to prevent this from happening again.  Here is a list of the lives snuffed out:

Mr. Michael Cahill,62, of Cameron, Texas., a civilian employee at Fort Hood.

 Lt. Colonel Juanita Warman, 55, Harve De Grace, Md, assigned to the 1908th Medical Company, Independence, Mo.

Capt. John P. Gaffaney, 54, of San Diego, Calif., assigned to the 1908th Medical Company, Independence, Mo.

Major Libardo Eduardo Caraveo, 52, Tuscon, Ariz. assigned to the 467th Medical Detachment,  Madison, Wisconsin.

Capt. Russell Seager, 41, of Racine, Wis., assigned to the 467th Medical Company, Madison, Wis.

Staff Sgt. Justin Decrow, 32, of Plymouth, Ind., assigned to the 16th Signal Company, Fort Hood, Texas.

Sgt. Amy Krueger, 29, of Kiel, Wis., assigned to the 467th Medical Company, Madison, Wis.

Spc. Jason Hunt, 22, of Tillman, Okla., assigned to the 1st Brigade, Fort Hood, Texas.

Spc. Frederick Greene, 29, of Mountain City, Tenn., assigned to the 16th Signal Company, Fort Hood, Texas.

Pfc. Aaron Nemelka, 19, of West Jordan, Utah., assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas.

Pfc. Michael Pearson, 22, of Bolingbrook, Ill., assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas.

Spc. Kham Xiong, 23, of St. Paul, Minn., assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas.

Pvt. Francheska Velez, 21, of Chicago, Ill., assigned to the 15th Combat Support Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas.

The unborn child of Francheska Velez.

(Hattip to Lair of the Catholic Caveman for the list.)

Marine drill instructors have a motto:  “Let’s be damn sure that no man’s ghost will ever say, ‘If your training program had only done its job.”

Let’s make sure from this atrocity that no one will die in the future because some government employee, in or out of uniform, doesn’t do their job.

Update:  Hattip to Ed Morrissey at Hot Air.  The Feds are now claiming that in regard to the contacts with al Qaeda nothing was done because:  The FBI determined that the e-mails did not warrant an investigation, according to the law enforcement official. Investigators said Hasan’s e-mails were consistent with the topic of his academic research and involved some social chatter and religious discourse.  What’s going on now is a CYA operation of epic proportions to explain why Federal agencies and individuals did nothing in the face of clear evidence that Hasan was a potential threat.

20 Responses to Nidal Malik Hasan: What Did the Feds Know Prior to the Massacre?

  • American Knight says:

    This is just sick. Pure PC disregard for duty so as not to ‘offend’. How’s that workin’ for ya?

    One thing I will note is that he made a statement that he was Muslim first and American second. I have a problem with that and I am not a hypocrite for saying it. I am Catholic first and American second. However, the Catholic understanding of duty, loyalty, community and patriotism (the 4th degree of the Knights of Columbus BTW) is very different than that of Islam.

    A truly authentic, orthodox, faithful Catholic will be the best citizen of the USA. Our faith directs us to live and possibly die for others on our own initiative in imitation of Christ. That is true sacrificial love.

    The Muslim version of dying for others is skewed. First the reward is not union with the Blessed Trinity it is a Gnostic paradise of virgin wives and honey. It seems like the ultimate in excess rather than holiness. Additionally, although we may have to kill for God and country we do not SEEK to kill for God and country. Muslims are rewarded, according to the Qu’ran, for waging war against Dar al Harb, the House of War, which is everything outside of Islamic politico/religio-fascism. All infedels are to be killed. All ‘people of the book’ Jews and Christians are to be subdued to conversion or killed.

    That is one messed up ideology and we need to give strong consideration for preventing or severly monitoring Muslims that serve in government and military. I know it seems draconian but the threat is real and I am far more concerned about stealth jihad than terrorist acts. The former is wide reaching, the latter is containable.

    Does it make sense to be ‘tolerant’ of those who seek your destruction?

  • Elaine Krewer says:

    “We need to give strong consideration for preventing or severely monitoring Muslims that serve in government and military.”

    Total prevention may not be necessary at this point, but monitoring is certainly justified. I would think that a Muslim who sincerely wanted to prove his or her loyalty to our country would understand the reasons why and accept that as the price they have to pay for entering such sensitive professions.

  • Donald R. McClarey says:

    Discrimination against Muslims is neither permissible nor necessary. All we have to do is make certain that no one is given a pass on clearly suspicious, not to say in the case of Hasan obviously alarming, activity, because they are a Muslim, which I fear is precisely why no one took action in reference to Hasan in spite of giant red flags.

  • American Knight says:

    Donald,

    I wasn’t advocating discrimination in the conventional sense; I was simply recommending more monitoring and barring if needs be for those who choose to enter sensative government and/or military service. They are not conscripts so it is volunatry, if they don’t want to be scrutinzed then they can find another career. That is not across the board discrimination; however, what has been the common thread in 97% of terrorist activities against the USA in the last 30-40 years?

    Ignoring that is foolish.

  • American Knight says:

    The secular world government aka the UN seeks to destroy national sovreignty, hard money, freedom of religion especually for those pesky Cahtolics and their Pope, and human dignity.

    Do you wonder why we never passed the Bricker amendments? Some of those with evil designs in our government want us to cave-in to UN demands for a totalitarian world state – an athiestic, or worse, Satanic one.

    I think we have the resolve to stop them. Pandering to which ever pawn they want to use to achieve their ends is no way to win – in this case, they are using political correctness and Islam as a stick to beat the USA with.

  • e. says:

    A Wall Street Journal article rightly notes concerning the illustrious Democrats and their utter complacency in the War Against Terrorism:

    “Before the Democrats came to power in the 2008 elections, one issue they pushed hardest through the policy debate was their opposition to domestic electronic surveillance in pursuit of Islamic terror activities. If the Hasan investigation concludes that he arrived at his pre-spree cry of ‘God is great!’ after immersion in the world of violent Islamic Web sites and prior time spent at radical domestic U.S. mosques, then we would hope that the response of our lawmakers would be more than a shrug that these 13 dead are simply the price we have to pay for living in ‘our system.’”

    However sad to admit, but personally I felt safer under the Bush Administration.

  • awakaman says:

    American Knight/Donald:

    In 2007 the Posse Commitatus Act was amended (by President Bush and Senator Warner) allow the use of federal troops to “restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition… the President determines that… domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order… or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such… a condition… so hinders the execution of the laws… that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law… or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.” This amendment was subsequently revoked but the Posse Commitatus Act has been increasing disregarded by presidents both Republican and Democrats.

    Answer me this. What if after another attack on an abortion clinic or the assasination of another abortion provider President Obama ordered federal troops to protect abortion clinics and abortion providers or going one step further to round up members of anti-abortion groups as potential terrorists. Now I would not expect you to act the way the Major did, but what would you do if you were a Catholic in the armed forces and ordered to protect an abortion clinic or to round up pro-life group members?

  • American Knight says:

    The comparison between Catholics and Muslims is false. Protecting life is tantamount. It is the most basic human right. Pro-lifers protect life and therefore are right. Muslim jihadists take life and therfore they are in the wrong.

    Posse Commitatus is designed to prevent a police state, yet many illicit and probably illegal executive orders have undermined it. This is very dangerous. Domestic order should be maintaned by police forces and they should always be local, drawn from the population they are policing. It is very unwise to use military forces for police work. One of the purposes of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is live fire excercises in using our soldiers for police work. Of course that is a foreign country and they should never be used here. So what will they use: UN international forces that have no problem using guns on the American populace. Who will be rounded up first? Not the peaceful Muslims. The first target will be those homophobic, dogmatic, hateful, strict, anti-choice Catholics.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  • awakaman says:

    AK:

    OK, Protecting life is Tantamount and Pro-lifers protect life and therefore are right.

    But, answer the question. What if you are in the military and your Commander in Chief disagrees with this assessment and believes that a “woman’s right to choose” is tantamount. What do you do if ordered to protect an abortion clinic or to suppress pro-life groups? Should you as a soldier be regarded with suspicion as guilty of sedition if you try to preach the pro-life message to your fellow troops? What if you tell others that by protecting/promoting abortion their immortal souls are threatened with damnation and hell fire?

    Finally, you state that “Muslim Jihadists take life and therefore they are in the wrong”. Does this mean that all members of the military are in the wrong since their main purpose is to enforce the will of the United States Government by force and by killing if necessary?

    If

  • Donald R. McClarey says:

    “What if you are in the military and your Commander in Chief disagrees with this assessment and believes that a “woman’s right to choose” is tantamount.”

    You go to court awakaman, and the soldier would have plenty of volunteer attorneys like me to take his case.

    “What if after another attack on an abortion clinic or the assasination of another abortion provider President Obama ordered federal troops to protect abortion clinics and abortion providers or going one step further to round up members of anti-abortion groups as potential terrorists.”

    Oh, and we’d make unending political hay out of this and probably hasten considerably the ultimate victory of the pro-life cause by decades. I pray that the Obama administration would be so foolish!

  • American Knight says:

    awakaman,

    “What if you are in the military and your Commander in Chief disagrees with this assessment and believes that a “woman’s right to choose” is tantamount. What do you do if ordered to protect an abortion clinic or to suppress pro-life groups?”

    Pray for the commanding officer and tell him that he is wrong and that God will forgive him if he repents and then disobey an immoral order based on the oath of service taken. To defend the Constitution which calls for Justice and Liberty, which must by defenition begin with life. Then I would rely on the Grace of the Lord and attorneys like McClarey.

    “Does this mean that all members of the military are in the wrong since their main purpose is to enforce the will of the United States Government by force and by killing if necessary?”

    No. The difference is that we, the people and not necessarily our wayward government, engage in war with the ultimate end being peace and we try to engage only in just war. I am referring to the people’s intentions not the oligarchy. Soldiers come from the people not the oligarchs, unless it is to get some street cred for public office.

    Muslims are called to jihad, waging war for the destruction of all outside of Islam. Christians are called to love our enemies. Do all Christians love their enemies? No. Do all Muslims seek to wage jihad? No. But it is clear which outlook is true and good and which is a lie from the devil.

  • e. says:

    We “engage in war with the ultimate end being peace”?

    No wonder for years now, Sparta, not Athens and certainly not Jerusalem, has served as our civic model to no good end whatsoever!

    How many wars must be fought in order that peace be obtained? Or isn’t it the case that engaging in war actually goes against the goal of achieving peace?

    Just what kind of perverted universe do you live in that engaging in war is a necessary prerequisite for peace?

  • American Knight says:

    War is not going away. Ever. If you want peace you prepare for war. You fight the war that comes to you, becuase one will eventually, and you win it quickly to re-establish the temporary peace.

    We will never have perpetual peace until the final war is fought.

    I don’t like war. I am not a jingoist. I would love for us to never have to be in one again. But that is a fantasy. Since WWI most of the wars we have fought have been set up for evil purposes and I suspect that our government has engaged in this evil; however, the soldiers that fight in our wars, fight and die out of a sense of patriotism, duty and sacrifice – those are good things even if the government sends them to an unjust war – propaganda makses it hard to know for the average person.

    No nation will survive long in this world without the ability to wage war. If one engages in a war, then it is a duty to end it quickly to achieve peace.

    If I am not mistaken, Chesterton said something to this effect – but I am not a GK expert.

  • awakaman says:

    Donald:

    Instead of a hypothetical let’s look at an actual factual case the St. Patrick’s Battalions which I saw referenced on a different site earlier today:

    “When the US invaded Mexico (1846-48) to seize much of its territory, the US troops burned Catholic churches, raped Mexican women, and desecrated the Blessed Sacrament. They also taunted the small Catholic minority in the US army, most of whom were Irish and German immigrants, and who were horrified at what the US army was doing. In response, many of them left and joined the attacked side. The “San Patricios” were called traitors by the US, and many were executed after the US won the war. Of course, the Mexicans saw them in a different light.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick's_Battalion

    If you or AK were in the US Army at that time what would you have done. Joined the St. Patricos or stayed to fight the Mexicans, since while you may be personally opposed to anti-Catholicism you would not oppose the right of individuals and the US government to engage in it.

  • awakaman says:

    AK:

    While I like and admire Chesterton I think another author beter represents your line of thought the one who wrote: “War is Peace” and “Slavery is Freedom”

  • Donald R. McClarey says:

    The US government was not anti-Catholic awakaman. Troops who mistreated Mexican civilians were severely punished as the court martial records of the time demonstate. Both Scott and Taylor, the two chief American generals during the war, did everything in their power to maintain good relations with the Catholic Church throughout the conflict including setting an example for the troops by attending Mass. Scott with his general order number 20 specifically set up a framework, which was implemented, to punish Americans for crimes against the civilian population in Mexico. I would have remained loyal to my oath as an American soldier and I would have happily assisted in punishing the traitors in the San Patricio Battalion after their capture.

  • American Knight says:

    awakaman,

    You are confusing the actions of individuals with the overall purpose of the people of the USA and with our government. The culture of the people, the direction of the government and individual action are not always aligned.

    As for your Orwell reference, that too is mistaken.

    I never said War is Peace and I certainly never said Slavery is Freedom, at aleast not in the political order. Slavery to Jesus is authentic Freedom.

    My statement was the ENDS of a just war are peace. Unless you are engaged in conquest or plunder then you will engage a war for a higher moral purpose and the aim will be peace.

    Wars, especially in the last two centuries, are rarely fought for one purpose. Some are honorable, most are sinsiter. WWII may not have been necessary, it was set-up by the treaty of versailles and the League of Nations attempt in order to cause chaos and bring about a world government, the UN. Trans-national financiers made money on all sides. Operation Keelhaul sent many good people to Stalin’s death camps. The list of attrocities goes on. All that does not make it any less noble that Jews and Catholics persecuted and murderered by the Nazis were in fact liberated by the Allied troops.

    Just because the aim is peace doesn’t mean that war should be engaged without much consideration; however, not preparing for war is suicide.

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