Comments on: Fort Hood Massacre, President Obama, and George Tiller the Killer http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 24 May 2012 13:42:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tito Edwards http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33963 Tito Edwards Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:56:25 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33963 Donna V., Thanks for the link! Donna V.,

Thanks for the link!

]]> By: Donna V. http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33962 Donna V. Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:09:21 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33962 Sorry for not posting it earlier, Tito. In the updated version, Mansoor is referred to as a Christian: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us/09muslim.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&hp With this added at the end: <i>Earlier versions of this article misstated the religion and rank of Michael A. Monsoor and the act he performed that earned him the Medal of Honor.</i> Sorry for not posting it earlier, Tito. In the updated version, Mansoor is referred to as a Christian:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us/09muslim.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&hp

With this added at the end:

Earlier versions of this article misstated the religion and rank of Michael A. Monsoor and the act he performed that earned him the Medal of Honor.

]]> By: Andrew C. http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33961 Andrew C. Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:13:45 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33961 Highly theological, though. probably so much so as to render any treatment of it in this limited space more of a detriment to the understanding of it. Highly theological, though. probably so much so as to render any treatment of it in this limited space more of a detriment to the understanding of it.

]]> By: Andrew C. http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33960 Andrew C. Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:38:24 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33960 wow, I just read that Times article. That's a pretty douche-bag (pardon the language) move by the NYT. Really ticks me off that they were so desperate to find counter examples that they resorted (as usual, i guess) to outright falsehoods for which they will no doubt issue a correction that is hidden away among the folds of a later issue. Not to go off-topic, but I recently read a defense of Tiller's killer somewhere (http://www.takimag.com/site/article/righteous_zeal_and_the_murder_of_george_tiller/). I mean, what does one do when a state-sanctioned serial killer is loose in the world? Isn't there some context that allows for individual citizens to do something about those people? If there was a known serial killer in public and he had publicly stated his intentions to kill again, is there no recourse for the sane members of society? I think I might agree with Gottfried that Tiller's killing was not necessarily murder. However, his killing will undoubtedly result in harder times for the pro-life movement, but I'm not sure that is enough to make the actual act immoral. Tiller had killed some 60 thousand innocent people. I have a hard time believing that tiller's killer could be guilty of murder. wow, I just read that Times article. That’s a pretty douche-bag (pardon the language) move by the NYT. Really ticks me off that they were so desperate to find counter examples that they resorted (as usual, i guess) to outright falsehoods for which they will no doubt issue a correction that is hidden away among the folds of a later issue.

Not to go off-topic, but I recently read a defense of Tiller’s killer somewhere (http://www.takimag.com/site/article/righteous_zeal_and_the_murder_of_george_tiller/).

I mean, what does one do when a state-sanctioned serial killer is loose in the world? Isn’t there some context that allows for individual citizens to do something about those people? If there was a known serial killer in public and he had publicly stated his intentions to kill again, is there no recourse for the sane members of society?

I think I might agree with Gottfried that Tiller’s killing was not necessarily murder. However, his killing will undoubtedly result in harder times for the pro-life movement, but I’m not sure that is enough to make the actual act immoral.

Tiller had killed some 60 thousand innocent people. I have a hard time believing that tiller’s killer could be guilty of murder.

]]> By: Tito Edwards http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33959 Tito Edwards Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:40:14 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33959 Donna V., Could you send me the link? Thanks! Joe & Pinky, Thank you, it had to be pointed out. It was obvious to me. Eric, Absolutely agree. Arlen Spector, then a Republican, made the remark of how the Catholic Church was intolerant towards science and brought up the Galileo incident. Can't remember the context of which he spoke about this, so if anyone can remind me what it was it'll make for a good follow-up article in the future. Donna V.,

Could you send me the link? Thanks!

Joe & Pinky,

Thank you, it had to be pointed out. It was obvious to me.

Eric,

Absolutely agree.

Arlen Spector, then a Republican, made the remark of how the Catholic Church was intolerant towards science and brought up the Galileo incident. Can’t remember the context of which he spoke about this, so if anyone can remind me what it was it’ll make for a good follow-up article in the future.

]]> By: Donna V. http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/11/09/fort-hood-massacre-president-obama-and-george-tiller-the-killer/#comment-33958 Donna V. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:47:50 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=14593#comment-33958 From NRO: <i>In this New York Times story on Muslims serving in the U.S. military, the Times presents Navy SEAL Michael Monsoor, who earned the Congressional Medal of Honor for throwing himself on a grenade to save his team members in 2006, as a Muslim. It quotes a Muslim Army reservist who cites Monsoor as an example of a Muslim service member who gave his life for his country, and the Times lets the assertion stand. But Monsoor was a devout Catholic, as his Department of Defense official biography clearly states.</i> From NRO:

In this New York Times story on Muslims serving in the U.S. military, the Times presents Navy SEAL Michael Monsoor, who earned the Congressional Medal of Honor for throwing himself on a grenade to save his team members in 2006, as a Muslim. It quotes a Muslim Army reservist who cites Monsoor as an example of a Muslim service member who gave his life for his country, and the Times lets the assertion stand. But Monsoor was a devout Catholic, as his Department of Defense official biography clearly states.

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