Comments on: Lepanto http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:14:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dale Price http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4756 Dale Price Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:48:55 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4756 Tito: I'm not a huge fan of Triumph. It has its moments, but Crocker's handling of Byzantium suggested to me that a Greek guy had beaten his high school football team for the state championship and stolen his girlfriend afterwards. I don't have a problem with a historian displaying his sympathies and animosities, but I prefer it to be based on something other than sheer spite. Tito:

I’m not a huge fan of Triumph. It has its moments, but Crocker’s handling of Byzantium suggested to me that a Greek guy had beaten his high school football team for the state championship and stolen his girlfriend afterwards.

I don’t have a problem with a historian displaying his sympathies and animosities, but I prefer it to be based on something other than sheer spite.

]]> By: bearing http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4755 bearing Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:59:39 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4755 I first encountered this poem in the form of an excerpt -- the first four lines of the last stanza -- which appeared as part of the foreword in an edition of Don Quixote that I read at age 14. I didn't remember who wrote it, but it has always stuck in my heart and I was delighted years later to discover Chesterton was the author, and along with that, the rest of the poem. I first encountered this poem in the form of an excerpt — the first four lines of the last stanza — which appeared as part of the foreword in an edition of Don Quixote that I read at age 14. I didn’t remember who wrote it, but it has always stuck in my heart and I was delighted years later to discover Chesterton was the author, and along with that, the rest of the poem.

]]> By: American Knight http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4754 American Knight Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:42:01 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4754 God created time for us so we can journey back to Him through it. If we don't know where we came from, how we got here, what we did right and what we did wrong; how the heck are we supposed to know where we're going? The best way to demorilze a people, take away their pride (the good pride, not hubris), confuse their values and enslave them is to make them forgot their history, or better yet give them one more sympathetic to your cause. That's what we have today in this country, the Western world and in the Church. The Church built Western Civilization and preserved the wisdom of the pagan philosophers, the good things from the Roman Republic and transmits the most important historical event. As Don Kiwi said most people would laugh at this becuase they've been taught that Rome fell becuase of the Babrabrians (they have no idea what global cooling had to with it) and then kingdoms cropped up that forced the working-class to work for the feudal lords and then, in typical western warmonger fashion, invaded Muslim lands until the Enlightenment, when smarter, more rational and irreligious people saved human kind from the Dark Ages. Irrational, decietful and woefully borring. Hence why kids can't keep their pants up around their waist - they don't know the history of belts. God created time for us so we can journey back to Him through it. If we don’t know where we came from, how we got here, what we did right and what we did wrong; how the heck are we supposed to know where we’re going?

The best way to demorilze a people, take away their pride (the good pride, not hubris), confuse their values and enslave them is to make them forgot their history, or better yet give them one more sympathetic to your cause.

That’s what we have today in this country, the Western world and in the Church. The Church built Western Civilization and preserved the wisdom of the pagan philosophers, the good things from the Roman Republic and transmits the most important historical event.

As Don Kiwi said most people would laugh at this becuase they’ve been taught that Rome fell becuase of the Babrabrians (they have no idea what global cooling had to with it) and then kingdoms cropped up that forced the working-class to work for the feudal lords and then, in typical western warmonger fashion, invaded Muslim lands until the Enlightenment, when smarter, more rational and irreligious people saved human kind from the Dark Ages.

Irrational, decietful and woefully borring. Hence why kids can’t keep their pants up around their waist – they don’t know the history of belts.

]]> By: Donald R. McClarey http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4753 Donald R. McClarey Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:23:14 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4753 Unfortunately Don too many Catholics know as much about the history of their Church as a pig knows about penance. I am glad, but not surprised, that you are waging a one man campaign against this tide of ignorance! Unfortunately Don too many Catholics know as much about the history of their Church as a pig knows about penance. I am glad, but not surprised, that you are waging a one man campaign against this tide of ignorance!

]]> By: Don the Kiwi http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4752 Don the Kiwi Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:16:52 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4752 Great poem from Chesterton. Reminds me of my school days - good work Don. My RCIA night was Tuesday 6th. I told them all about the feast day - "The Holy Rosary" - previously "Our Lady of Victories." I gave them Crocker's article in Crisis Magazine a year or so ago. They were all astounded. So then I told them about 9/11 - 11th Sept 1683 - the Battle of Vienna where the Catholic army defeated the Muslim army and sent them packing back to the Balkans. When I explained the same history to my daughter she was quite overwhelmed - this stuff is not taught in schools anymore - not even Catholic schools. The salvation of Western civilisation is in debt to the Catholic church - no mistake. Tell that to your average Joe on the street - you'll be met with guffaws. Great poem from Chesterton.

Reminds me of my school days – good work Don.

My RCIA night was Tuesday 6th. I told them all about the feast day – “The Holy Rosary” – previously “Our Lady of Victories.”
I gave them Crocker’s article in Crisis Magazine a year or so ago. They were all astounded.
So then I told them about 9/11 – 11th Sept 1683 – the Battle of Vienna where the Catholic army defeated the Muslim army and sent them packing back to the Balkans.

When I explained the same history to my daughter she was quite overwhelmed – this stuff is not taught in schools anymore – not even Catholic schools.

The salvation of Western civilisation is in debt to the Catholic church – no mistake.

Tell that to your average Joe on the street – you’ll be met with guffaws.

]]> By: Tito Edwards http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/10/07/lepanto-2/#comment-4751 Tito Edwards Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:17:16 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=13362#comment-4751 Meltdown? I'm going to do some research and update my Amazon wish list again! No, don't sleep much, but I do like to sleep. Meltdown? I’m going to do some research and update my Amazon wish list again!

No, don’t sleep much, but I do like to sleep.

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