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	<title>Comments on: Cult of Personality?  What Cult of Personality?</title>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/09/24/cult-of-personality-what-cult-of-personality/#comment-4537</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get my computer to run this.  Is this &quot;cult of personality?&quot;

http://www.breitbart.tv/shock-discovery-community-organizers-pray-to-president-elect-obama/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get my computer to run this.  Is this &#8220;cult of personality?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.tv/shock-discovery-community-organizers-pray-to-president-elect-obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.breitbart.tv/shock-discovery-community-organizers-pray-to-president-elect-obama/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/09/24/cult-of-personality-what-cult-of-personality/#comment-4536</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt-  are you comparing the public education system to a roach infestation? So is your solution is to fire all the teachers (cockroaches), seeing as the teacher (cockroach) who led the activity is supposedly a harbinger of all the other teachers (cockroaches) also leading similar activities? Maybe we need another analogy...

Is it obvious? I&#039;m not so sure it is. Is it a &quot;fact?&quot; A fact is something &quot;known to exist/have existed.&quot; Apparently we have a few videos that prove one thing- these classes sang songs about Obama. Are they tasteless? Yes. Are they totally out of place in an elementary school classroom? ABSOLUTELY. Are they evidence of a state-sponsored attempt to hijack the brains of today&#039;s children? Not sure about that...

Unless I see clear evidence 1) that students participate in repeated activities (aka, more than one) of this sort and 2) of a centralized mandate coming from Obama or Arnie Duncan or whoever that schools must comply with regarding COP activities, I will chalk this up to highly localized decisions on the part of individual teachers to be dealt with on a local level. How are we so sure that these activities aren&#039;t simply the products of poor lesson planning? Why pick a conspiracy of nefarious intent over simple incompetence?

It is also amazing that for conservatives (the ones typically leading the accusations of a COP) that government is so incompetent on EVERYTHING, but Obama can somehow successfully implement an initiative to program the youth in a little over 8 months of his term in Office. Why the sudden assumption of competence?

While the activities are poorly conceived, let&#039;s not go crazy about it. I am actually pretty critical of Obama, but I really feel this COP stuff is overstating the available evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt-  are you comparing the public education system to a roach infestation? So is your solution is to fire all the teachers (cockroaches), seeing as the teacher (cockroach) who led the activity is supposedly a harbinger of all the other teachers (cockroaches) also leading similar activities? Maybe we need another analogy&#8230;</p>
<p>Is it obvious? I&#8217;m not so sure it is. Is it a &#8220;fact?&#8221; A fact is something &#8220;known to exist/have existed.&#8221; Apparently we have a few videos that prove one thing- these classes sang songs about Obama. Are they tasteless? Yes. Are they totally out of place in an elementary school classroom? ABSOLUTELY. Are they evidence of a state-sponsored attempt to hijack the brains of today&#8217;s children? Not sure about that&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless I see clear evidence 1) that students participate in repeated activities (aka, more than one) of this sort and 2) of a centralized mandate coming from Obama or Arnie Duncan or whoever that schools must comply with regarding COP activities, I will chalk this up to highly localized decisions on the part of individual teachers to be dealt with on a local level. How are we so sure that these activities aren&#8217;t simply the products of poor lesson planning? Why pick a conspiracy of nefarious intent over simple incompetence?</p>
<p>It is also amazing that for conservatives (the ones typically leading the accusations of a COP) that government is so incompetent on EVERYTHING, but Obama can somehow successfully implement an initiative to program the youth in a little over 8 months of his term in Office. Why the sudden assumption of competence?</p>
<p>While the activities are poorly conceived, let&#8217;s not go crazy about it. I am actually pretty critical of Obama, but I really feel this COP stuff is overstating the available evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/09/24/cult-of-personality-what-cult-of-personality/#comment-4535</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

if you see 5 or 10 roaches in your kitchen, do you assume they are isolated roaches? The fact is that there are obviously far more incidents which have not been videoed at all, and many that never found their way to Youtube.

Nobody is claiming that the cult of personality is currently at the level you mention, but those cults I&#039;m sure started more isolated and progressed.  That&#039;s what we&#039;re trying to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>if you see 5 or 10 roaches in your kitchen, do you assume they are isolated roaches? The fact is that there are obviously far more incidents which have not been videoed at all, and many that never found their way to Youtube.</p>
<p>Nobody is claiming that the cult of personality is currently at the level you mention, but those cults I&#8217;m sure started more isolated and progressed.  That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trying to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I ask an rather obvious question? Is this a one-off activity? Or is there a clear and consistent pattern? Where is the actual evidence besides these seemingly isolated youtube videos?

It seems unless there is a clear established pattern of consistent activities like this within all schools that we are over-interpreting things. To claim this is the establishment of a &quot;cult of personality&quot; is to severely trivialize what a cult of personality actually is and what it actually looks like (sorry, the &quot;cult&quot; around Obama is nowhere even remotely close in scope to Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Hussein, Jong-Il, etc.)

It could just be a poorly conceived activity. Lord knows I had to go through a few of them in my schooling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask an rather obvious question? Is this a one-off activity? Or is there a clear and consistent pattern? Where is the actual evidence besides these seemingly isolated youtube videos?</p>
<p>It seems unless there is a clear established pattern of consistent activities like this within all schools that we are over-interpreting things. To claim this is the establishment of a &#8220;cult of personality&#8221; is to severely trivialize what a cult of personality actually is and what it actually looks like (sorry, the &#8220;cult&#8221; around Obama is nowhere even remotely close in scope to Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Hussein, Jong-Il, etc.)</p>
<p>It could just be a poorly conceived activity. Lord knows I had to go through a few of them in my schooling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cult of Personality-Take 2 &#171; The American Catholic</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/09/24/cult-of-personality-what-cult-of-personality/#comment-4533</link>
		<dc:creator>Cult of Personality-Take 2 &#171; The American Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A followup to my earlier post on school kids singing a hymn of praise to Obama.  Hattip to Gateway Pundit.  Apparently the video was posted on YouTube by the proud teacher behind this piece of agitprop. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A followup to my earlier post on school kids singing a hymn of praise to Obama.  Hattip to Gateway Pundit.  Apparently the video was posted on YouTube by the proud teacher behind this piece of agitprop. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the part were they do the little &quot;sieg heil&quot;, &quot;sieg heil&quot;, &quot;sieg heil&quot;,  with the nazi salute.  It looks a lot like this:

http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/hilter_youth_mind_contol.jpg

or this:

http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/YouthColor.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the part were they do the little &#8220;sieg heil&#8221;, &#8220;sieg heil&#8221;, &#8220;sieg heil&#8221;,  with the nazi salute.  It looks a lot like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/hilter_youth_mind_contol.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/hilter_youth_mind_contol.jpg</a></p>
<p>or this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/YouthColor.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.authordon.com/images/site_graphics/YouthColor.jpg</a></p>
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