At what point in your life did you become “self-actuallised”?

Fetuses on the other hand are not only *not* human beings with a right to self-actualization….

Does the *not* refer to the fetus not being a human being, or does it apply to the adjectival phrase as well?
If you believe the fetus is not a human being, at what stage does it change its “nature” to become a human being?

Humanity does not depend on “self-actualization”.

As Douglass points out, Lincoln was a politician and an elected official and he had to walk a fine line between determination to carry out his goals and the necessity of making sure enough of the public stayed on board to make that possible. This of necessity requires some degree of compromise.

I would seriously like to see some officeholder or politician take the same approach to abortion that Lincoln took toward slavery. Has anyone ever actually done or attempted this? It would be interesting to see what kind of reaction he or she would receive. More likely than not, pro-lifers would be upset with him or her because he/she was too soft, while the pro-abort crowd would label this person as radically “anti-choice” and paint them as someone willing to toss pregnant women in jail for having miscarriages, or some other ridiculous charge.

True Elaine, up until the Emancipation Proclamation. After that he indicated on several occasions that the two non-negotiables for him on ending the war were the restoration of the Union and the abolition of slavery. Frederick Douglass was correct in his comments about Lincoln on this point:

“His great mission was to accomplish two things: first, to save his country from dismemberment and ruin; and, second, to free his country from the great crime of slavery. To do one or the other, or both, he must have the earnest sympathy and the powerful cooperation of his loyal fellow-countrymen. Without this primary and essential condition to success his efforts must have been vain and utterly fruitless. Had he put the abolition of slavery before the salvation of the Union, he would have inevitably driven from him a powerful class of the American people and rendered resistance to rebellion impossible. Viewed from the genuine abolition ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull, and indifferent; but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined.”

Jillian, the problem isn’t self-actualization of unborn children but the self-rationalization that pro-aborts such as yourself engage in in order to blind yourselves to the taking of innocent human life. Thank you for providing an object lesson of the infinite capacity of human beings to justify evil for the sake of self-interest.

later this week Obama will meet the Pope may the Holy Father boldly teach the chosen one