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		<title>By: Top Ten Patriotic Movies for the Fourth &#171; The American Catholic</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/#comment-49894</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Ten Patriotic Movies for the Fourth &#171; The American Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ten Patriotic Movies for the&#160;Fourth  Last year I listed here my top ten picks for movies about the America Revolution for the Fourth.  This year here is my list [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elaine Krewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Krewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Jay&#039;s comment on &quot;Ride With The Devil&quot;: I am currently reading &quot;April 1865: The Month that Saved America&quot; by Jay Winik, and finding it very fascinating. 

Especially striking to me is the author&#039;s central thesis: that the United States could easily have descended into a spiral of never-ending bloodshed and guerilla warfare (a la Bosnia, Chechnya, Sudan, Northern Ireland, etc.) but for the restraint of Generals Lee and Grant and Lincoln&#039;s desire that the Confederate states be fully welcomed back into the Union. 

Winik believes that Lee and other Confederate generals could easily have chosen to continue fighting as guerillas, but chose not to because they were aware of the horrific consequences of the guerilla fighting that had taken place in Missouri and Kansas. Missouri in the 1860s sounds an awful lot like Vietnam in the 1960s -- little if any distinction between civilians and combatants, Union and Confederate guerillas impersonating each other, entire towns and counties destroyed in order to &quot;save&quot; them, people living in constant fear of betrayal by family, friends and neighbors. (Could this be the real reason Missouri became known as the &quot;Show Me State&quot; ? ) 

Had the Confederates gone guerrilla, had Grant been harsher toward the defeated Rebel soldiers and civilians, or had public sentiment after Lincoln&#039;s assassination turned more toward revenge against the South, things might be a lot different today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Jay&#8217;s comment on &#8220;Ride With The Devil&#8221;: I am currently reading &#8220;April 1865: The Month that Saved America&#8221; by Jay Winik, and finding it very fascinating. </p>
<p>Especially striking to me is the author&#8217;s central thesis: that the United States could easily have descended into a spiral of never-ending bloodshed and guerilla warfare (a la Bosnia, Chechnya, Sudan, Northern Ireland, etc.) but for the restraint of Generals Lee and Grant and Lincoln&#8217;s desire that the Confederate states be fully welcomed back into the Union. </p>
<p>Winik believes that Lee and other Confederate generals could easily have chosen to continue fighting as guerillas, but chose not to because they were aware of the horrific consequences of the guerilla fighting that had taken place in Missouri and Kansas. Missouri in the 1860s sounds an awful lot like Vietnam in the 1960s &#8212; little if any distinction between civilians and combatants, Union and Confederate guerillas impersonating each other, entire towns and counties destroyed in order to &#8220;save&#8221; them, people living in constant fear of betrayal by family, friends and neighbors. (Could this be the real reason Missouri became known as the &#8220;Show Me State&#8221; ? ) </p>
<p>Had the Confederates gone guerrilla, had Grant been harsher toward the defeated Rebel soldiers and civilians, or had public sentiment after Lincoln&#8217;s assassination turned more toward revenge against the South, things might be a lot different today.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald R. McClarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald R. McClarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and I both Anthony!</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/#comment-15472</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing John Adams I really wanted a Thomas Jefferson movie staring the same cast, just from Jefferson&#039;s POV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing John Adams I really wanted a Thomas Jefferson movie staring the same cast, just from Jefferson&#8217;s POV.</p>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/#comment-15470</link>
		<dc:creator>johnb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>april morning is available on dvd at movieshour.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>april morning is available on dvd at movieshour.com</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Anderson:  I and the other girls in my high school history class became enamored of Mr. Jefferson when our teacher showed us &quot;1776&quot; in class.  In fact, that&#039;s really the only thing I can recall about that film - that the actor who played Jefferson was a looker.

(Let us hope that historically ignorant schoolgirls today do not develop fond feelings toward Henry VIII just because Jonathan Rhys-Meyers looks quite dashing in period costume.  Any young woman who has the impression Henry looked like Rhys-Meyers is bound to be disappointed by Holbein&#039;s portrait.:-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Anderson:  I and the other girls in my high school history class became enamored of Mr. Jefferson when our teacher showed us &#8220;1776&#8243; in class.  In fact, that&#8217;s really the only thing I can recall about that film &#8211; that the actor who played Jefferson was a looker.</p>
<p>(Let us hope that historically ignorant schoolgirls today do not develop fond feelings toward Henry VIII just because Jonathan Rhys-Meyers looks quite dashing in period costume.  Any young woman who has the impression Henry looked like Rhys-Meyers is bound to be disappointed by Holbein&#8217;s portrait.:-))</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Denton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay:

You have depressed me. Now I will utterly unable to eat a hot dog on Saturday. Curse you! ;)

I am still young and idealistic, so it remains a favorite of mine. I will say though that juxtaposing Mr. Smith with Jimmy Stewart&#039;s later movie with John Wayne &quot;The man Who Shot Liberty Valance&quot; is fascinating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:</p>
<p>You have depressed me. Now I will utterly unable to eat a hot dog on Saturday. Curse you! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am still young and idealistic, so it remains a favorite of mine. I will say though that juxtaposing Mr. Smith with Jimmy Stewart&#8217;s later movie with John Wayne &#8220;The man Who Shot Liberty Valance&#8221; is fascinating</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Anderson</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/#comment-15394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I still like Mr. Smith, but it&#039;s just not one of my favorite movies of all time like it used to be back when I was young and idealistic. Just like I&#039;m less enamoured with Mr. Jefferson than I used to be (Paul Z. will be glad to hear that, I&#039;m sure).

;-)

By the way, here&#039;s how Mr. Smith would play out if it happened in real life:

http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/9298</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I still like Mr. Smith, but it&#8217;s just not one of my favorite movies of all time like it used to be back when I was young and idealistic. Just like I&#8217;m less enamoured with Mr. Jefferson than I used to be (Paul Z. will be glad to hear that, I&#8217;m sure).</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the way, here&#8217;s how Mr. Smith would play out if it happened in real life:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/9298" rel="nofollow">http://www.southernappeal.org/index.php/archives/9298</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Denton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Denton, what’s wrong with you? &lt;/i&gt;

Funny, my fiance asks that question too. With alarming frequency, actually ;)

I just could not stand it. Went too long, too absurd, hated the music, was over-dramatic, etc etc. 

I like Mr. Smith b/c it recognizes that politics are corrupt, but it offers a message of hope among the disillusion. I think it&#039;s the greatest movie ever made, but I&#039;m probably one of the few who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Denton, what’s wrong with you? </i></p>
<p>Funny, my fiance asks that question too. With alarming frequency, actually <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just could not stand it. Went too long, too absurd, hated the music, was over-dramatic, etc etc. </p>
<p>I like Mr. Smith b/c it recognizes that politics are corrupt, but it offers a message of hope among the disillusion. I think it&#8217;s the greatest movie ever made, but I&#8217;m probably one of the few who do.</p>
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		<title>By: e.</title>
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		<dc:creator>e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?

No honorable mention for Cagney&#039;s &quot;Yankee Doodle Dandy&quot;?

Sheesh..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?</p>
<p>No honorable mention for Cagney&#8217;s &#8220;Yankee Doodle Dandy&#8221;?</p>
<p>Sheesh..</p>
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		<title>By: Donald R. McClarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald R. McClarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I like Mr. Smith goes to Washington, although more for the performance of Claude Rains, always a favorite with me, than for any other reason.  Jimmy Stewart, usually a favorite of mine, gave what I thought was a fairly one note performance, although I understand that I am in a minority in regard to that opinion. 

In regard to 1776, tastes will vary.  I love it, and I will use this as an excuse to post another sequence from the film:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsXej9FloA&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3D1776%2520musical%26rlz%3D1W1ADSA%5Fen%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I like Mr. Smith goes to Washington, although more for the performance of Claude Rains, always a favorite with me, than for any other reason.  Jimmy Stewart, usually a favorite of mine, gave what I thought was a fairly one note performance, although I understand that I am in a minority in regard to that opinion. </p>
<p>In regard to 1776, tastes will vary.  I love it, and I will use this as an excuse to post another sequence from the film:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/lXsXej9FloA/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Anderson</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/07/02/top-ten-movies-for-the-fourth/#comment-15370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denton, what&#039;s wrong with you? 

1776 is a great movie. William Daniels (with that Boston Brahmin accent) will ALWAYS be John Adams to me (Giamatti&#039;s outstanding effort notwithstanding). Daniels even voiced the role in the A&amp;E/History Channel documentary I cite above.

And I must say that I&#039;m much less enamoured by Mr. Smith Goes to Washington than I once was. I suppose being involved in government/politics will do that to a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denton, what&#8217;s wrong with you? </p>
<p>1776 is a great movie. William Daniels (with that Boston Brahmin accent) will ALWAYS be John Adams to me (Giamatti&#8217;s outstanding effort notwithstanding). Daniels even voiced the role in the A&amp;E/History Channel documentary I cite above.</p>
<p>And I must say that I&#8217;m much less enamoured by Mr. Smith Goes to Washington than I once was. I suppose being involved in government/politics will do that to a person.</p>
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