Comments on: Pro-Life Movement: Democrats Need Not Apply http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim Shipe http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26842 Tim Shipe Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:20:46 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26842 Joe- thanks I did try to click on the contact web address and it went into something spam-like- oh well Joe- thanks I did try to click on the contact web address and it went into something spam-like- oh well

]]> By: Joe Hargrave http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26841 Joe Hargrave Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:11:40 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26841 Tim, I think that's spam that slipped through the net. Tim, I think that’s spam that slipped through the net.

]]> By: Tim Shipe http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26840 Tim Shipe Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:46:08 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26840 Gregory- of course you can review my blog piece- for good or ill I share my experience for public consumption! Gregory- of course you can review my blog piece- for good or ill I share my experience for public consumption!

]]> By: Gregory Despain http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26839 Gregory Despain Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:01:02 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26839 Hello you it´s just I absolutely enjoy your great blog, I would feel very special if you allow me to write a review about your amazing webblog on my small iPod Newssite <a href="http://www.concretecost.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.concretecost.org</a> would you say yes? Yours, Hello you it´s just I absolutely enjoy your great blog, I would feel very special if you allow me to write a review about your amazing webblog on my small iPod Newssite http://www.concretecost.org would you say yes? Yours,

]]> By: Jim Finfera (Grandfather) http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26838 Jim Finfera (Grandfather) Fri, 22 May 2009 11:06:16 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26838 RD, I could not agree with you more. Someday all of us are going to stand before our Maker and render an accounting on how we defended the unborn and the defenders of the unborn whom he gave as a gift to the pro-life cause, His cause. I know Tim personally and see his goodness 1st hand. He is as pure and principled centered as they come. I personally believe His vocation to defend the unborn and run for political office comes from our Creator and to Tim's credit he has responded admirably to that call even though that response meant significant suffering on his part and rejection from a large portion of the pro-life which should welcome him with open arms. Tim heroically answered God's call, but what about the rest of us. Are we really responding to God's call of defending His unborn in the best way possible. There will come a time where we must render an accounting for our actions in this most essential of causes. RD, I could not agree with you more. Someday all of us are going to stand before our Maker and render an accounting on how we defended the unborn and the defenders of the unborn whom he gave as a gift to the pro-life cause, His cause. I know Tim personally and see his goodness 1st hand. He is as pure and principled centered as they come. I personally believe His vocation to defend the unborn and run for political office comes from our Creator and to Tim’s credit he has responded admirably to that call even though that response meant significant suffering on his part and rejection from a large portion of the pro-life which should welcome him with open arms. Tim heroically answered God’s call, but what about the rest of us. Are we really responding to God’s call of defending His unborn in the best way possible. There will come a time where we must render an accounting for our actions in this most essential of causes.

]]> By: Mr.Z http://the-american-catholic.com/2009/05/11/pro-life-movement-democrats-need-not-apply/#comment-26837 Mr.Z Thu, 21 May 2009 01:37:56 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=8376#comment-26837 Tim interesting article and ongoing discussion. I remember when you ran. I thought a Pro-life Democrat?? Go Don Quixote, go. After the November election my family and I left OLOG and went to St. Joe. If you want a pro-life community, start go to St. Joe. Father L. and Father B. at OLOG believe pro-life means only anti-death penalty. How many times has Father L. gone on a death penalty protest? Answer, dozens of times. How many times has he gone on a anti-abortion protest? Answer, ZERO. OLOG was so far into the Obama camp OLOG was the newest member of the DNC. Being a member of KofC at OLOG I know many Knights who profess to be pro-life but voted for Obama. Any Catholic who voted for Obama is part of the problem and should be excommunicated. Abortion is an Intrinsically Evil Act. In the Orlando Diocese’s Faithful Citizenship Workshop, it clearly states, “As Catholics we are not single-issue voter. A candidate’s position on a single issue is not sufficient to guarantee a voter’s support. Yet a candidate’s position on a single issue that involves an Intrinsic evil, such as support for legal abortion or the promotion of racism, may legitimately lead a voter to disqualify a candidate from receiving support.” Listed as Intrinsically Evil Acts: 1. Abortion 2. Euthanasia 3. Human Cloning 4. Destructive Embryo Research 5. Genocide 6. Torture 7. Racism 8. Terrorism If I’m not mistaken, Obama supports 4 of the 8 listed Intrinsically Evil Acts (Abortion, Euthanasia, Human Cloning, and Destructive Embryo Research). The Faithful Citizenship workshop also states that “all issues do not carry the same moral weight and that the moral obligation to oppose intrinsically evil acts has a special claim on our consciences and our actions.” Notice that Death Penalty is not listed as an Intrinsically Evil Act. Personally I am Pro-Innocent Life. I have no problem with the death penalty. A court of law found these people to be guilty and passed a sentence of death. Anti-death penalty people want people to have "Life Sentences". One problem. Life sentences never are life sentences. Getting out after 20 years is not a life sentence. For a life sentence to be real the prisoner gets out only in a pine box. The unborn have no say. No voice. No court case. Hence Pro-Innocent Life. After reading your article I noticed you got no support from Pro-life groups. The reason the (D) at the end of your name. The reason for no support from OLOG was stated above. Run again, this times as a Republican you'll do better. Tim interesting article and ongoing discussion. I remember when you ran. I thought a Pro-life Democrat?? Go Don Quixote, go.
After the November election my family and I left OLOG and went to St. Joe. If you want a pro-life community, start go to St. Joe.
Father L. and Father B. at OLOG believe pro-life means only anti-death penalty. How many times has Father L. gone on a death penalty protest? Answer, dozens of times. How many times has he gone on a anti-abortion protest? Answer, ZERO.
OLOG was so far into the Obama camp OLOG was the newest member of the DNC.
Being a member of KofC at OLOG I know many Knights who profess to be pro-life but voted for Obama.
Any Catholic who voted for Obama is part of the problem and should be excommunicated.
Abortion is an Intrinsically Evil Act. In the Orlando Diocese’s Faithful Citizenship Workshop, it clearly states, “As Catholics we are not single-issue voter. A candidate’s position on a single issue is not sufficient to guarantee a voter’s support. Yet a candidate’s position on a single issue that involves an Intrinsic evil, such as support for legal abortion or the promotion of racism, may legitimately lead a voter to disqualify a candidate from receiving support.” Listed as Intrinsically Evil Acts:

1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Human Cloning
4. Destructive Embryo Research
5. Genocide
6. Torture
7. Racism
8. Terrorism

If I’m not mistaken, Obama supports 4 of the 8 listed Intrinsically Evil Acts (Abortion, Euthanasia, Human Cloning, and Destructive Embryo Research). The Faithful Citizenship workshop also states that “all issues do not carry the same moral weight and that the moral obligation to oppose intrinsically evil acts has a special claim on our consciences and our actions.”
Notice that Death Penalty is not listed as an Intrinsically Evil Act.
Personally I am Pro-Innocent Life. I have no problem with the death penalty. A court of law found these people to be guilty and passed a sentence of death.
Anti-death penalty people want people to have “Life Sentences”. One problem. Life sentences never are life sentences. Getting out after 20 years is not a life sentence. For a life sentence to be real the prisoner gets out only in a pine box. The unborn have no say. No voice. No court case. Hence Pro-Innocent Life.
After reading your article I noticed you got no support from Pro-life groups. The reason the (D) at the end of your name. The reason for no support from OLOG was stated above.
Run again, this times as a Republican you’ll do better.

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