I’m saying that both police brutality and torture are wrong.

I’m not going to comment on ‘maltreatment’ because that can be stretched out to encompass anything, in cheap attempt at moral trickery. Some people think that even being told they are doing something wrong is ‘maltreatment’.

I am instead going to look at each policy and do my best to decide whether or not it respects, or flagrantly violates, the inherent dignity of human beings, even guilty ones, even bad ones. Torture does that.

I’m speculating about the answer because you keep dodging it. I asked the question twice and you dodged. If you weren’t going to answer the question why would you even bother to respond to the post?

One more time, here it is:
Are you saying that any ‘maltreatment’ is torture or “police brutality”?

I’m not going to let you slander me.

When you can engage the arguments without making suggestions about who I really love and don’t love, they’ll be allowed to stand.

In your mad rush to jump to conclusions about me, you decided that. I never made any such claim.

The cops on Law and Order routinely do things that violate the human and civil rights of suspects. I’m not arguing that I always find it completely unjustifiable and reprehensible – most of the time I do – but even if I were to understand and even sympathize with the reason, that wouldn’t make it GOOD or RIGHT.

If you don’t like that even suspects, even convicted criminals, even people captured in war retain civil and/or human rights, then move to North Korea.

Why ask a question if you’re going to provide an answer to it in the same post?

Kindly explain to me then how you would actually have terrorists escape even the kind of interrogation typically featured in a Law & Order episode?