Comments on: Preach the Gospel; If Necessary, Use Words… http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/ Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:14:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tony http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30911 tony Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:48:05 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30911 Very sincere of Mr. Jillette with his feelings and certainty that there is NO God but, one can be sincerely "wrong" as well. Christians reading this, we need to pray for him and all that are unsaved. God bless! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures... Very sincere of Mr. Jillette with his feelings and certainty that there is NO God but, one can be sincerely “wrong” as well. Christians reading this, we need to pray for him and all that are unsaved.

God bless!

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you,
which also you received, in which also you stand,

2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you,
unless you believed in vain.

3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received,
that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures…

]]> By: Rick Lugari http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30910 Rick Lugari Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:41:56 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30910 I agree that part was impressive, and indeed might indicate an opening. But that gets back to the part of atheism/agnosticism that frustrates me. Penn kept repeating (and truly reflecting on it) the man was <em>good</em>. I don't get how people can give thought to God, gods, or the absence thereof, and come to the conclusion there is (are) none and proceed to think of things in terms of right and wrong, good, bad, or evil. Not that the absence of God in their mind should necessarily have to be tied to good and evil, right and wrong, but that if the absence of God means the construction of a worldview based on genuine mortality, that our being is just that, a temporary being - a mere part of a play of nature - then <em>good</em> should be of no concern to us. Indeed nothing could be good and nothing bad. We would owe nothing to our brother. By thinking in terms of right and wrong and an absence of something or Someone beyond yourself or mankind you betray your own doctrine. I think CS Lewis did a good job examining that and presenting it in a way that would seem quite agreeable to someone like Penn. Perhaps, the <em>good</em> man would be just the right person to put Mere Christianity in Penn's hands. I agree that part was impressive, and indeed might indicate an opening. But that gets back to the part of atheism/agnosticism that frustrates me. Penn kept repeating (and truly reflecting on it) the man was good. I don’t get how people can give thought to God, gods, or the absence thereof, and come to the conclusion there is (are) none and proceed to think of things in terms of right and wrong, good, bad, or evil. Not that the absence of God in their mind should necessarily have to be tied to good and evil, right and wrong, but that if the absence of God means the construction of a worldview based on genuine mortality, that our being is just that, a temporary being – a mere part of a play of nature – then good should be of no concern to us. Indeed nothing could be good and nothing bad. We would owe nothing to our brother. By thinking in terms of right and wrong and an absence of something or Someone beyond yourself or mankind you betray your own doctrine.

I think CS Lewis did a good job examining that and presenting it in a way that would seem quite agreeable to someone like Penn. Perhaps, the good man would be just the right person to put Mere Christianity in Penn’s hands.

]]> By: crankycon http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30909 crankycon Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:04:20 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30909 <i>And a self-professed atheist gives the strongest argument for spreading the gospel (”I don’t respect believers who don’t proselytize…how much do you have to HATE somebody NOT to tell them about eternal life?”) — imagine that.</i> That was indeed what struck me, and was pretty jarring, I must say. I have generally taken a live and let live attitude when it comes to dealing with non-believers, but that single line has absolutely got me re-thinking that approach. And now atheists can blame on of their own if they are now all inundated with obnoxious Christians trying to proselytize. :) And a self-professed atheist gives the strongest argument for spreading the gospel (”I don’t respect believers who don’t proselytize…how much do you have to HATE somebody NOT to tell them about eternal life?”) — imagine that.

That was indeed what struck me, and was pretty jarring, I must say. I have generally taken a live and let live attitude when it comes to dealing with non-believers, but that single line has absolutely got me re-thinking that approach.

And now atheists can blame on of their own if they are now all inundated with obnoxious Christians trying to proselytize. :)

]]> By: Christopher Blosser http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30908 Christopher Blosser Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:49:31 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30908 And a self-professed <i>atheist</i> gives the strongest argument for spreading the gospel ("I don't respect believers who <i>don't</i> proselytize...how much do you have to HATE somebody NOT to tell them about eternal life?") -- imagine that. And a self-professed atheist gives the strongest argument for spreading the gospel (“I don’t respect believers who don’t proselytize…how much do you have to HATE somebody NOT to tell them about eternal life?”) — imagine that.

]]> By: Tito Edwards http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30907 Tito Edwards Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:28:57 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30907 Likewise. It was moving to see Mr. Jillette reveal his thoughts in such an honest way. He does this a lot, but normally we Christians are taking it on the chin in his running commentary during his shows. But he is equally honest in this particular instance and it shows what a little honey can do instead of vinegar when bearing witness to our faith. Likewise. It was moving to see Mr. Jillette reveal his thoughts in such an honest way. He does this a lot, but normally we Christians are taking it on the chin in his running commentary during his shows. But he is equally honest in this particular instance and it shows what a little honey can do instead of vinegar when bearing witness to our faith.

]]> By: Dale Price http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/22/preach-the-gospel-if-necessary-use-words/#comment-30906 Dale Price Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:16:45 +0000 http://the-american-catholic.com/?p=3063#comment-30906 Very impressive and touching. Good to see Penn bare his heart like that, and his commentary has some startling insights. Very impressive and touching. Good to see Penn bare his heart like that, and his commentary has some startling insights.

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