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	<title>Comments on: Douthat Puts Kmiec in His Place</title>
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		<title>By: To The &#8220;Traitor,&#8221; Go The Spoils? Kmiec &#38; The Ambassadorship &#171; The American Catholic: Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/11/06/douthat-puts-kmiec-in-his-place/#comment-10621</link>
		<dc:creator>To The &#8220;Traitor,&#8221; Go The Spoils? Kmiec &#38; The Ambassadorship &#171; The American Catholic: Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Douglas Kmiec being appointed U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican. Many American Catholic contributors have expressed their opinions of Mr. Kmiec during the recent election. To be clear, the problem with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are Pro-Lifers Stuck With the Republican Party? &#171; The American Catholic: Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are Pro-Lifers Stuck With the Republican Party? &#171; The American Catholic: Politics and Culture from a Catholic perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] These articles vary widely in quality, and range from intelligent and provocative (if flawed) to embarrassing, but the most common feature is disenchantment with the current state of the Republican party. I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/11/06/douthat-puts-kmiec-in-his-place/#comment-10619</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m unimpressed with a strictly numbers approach to determining whether a group is of good will.&quot;

You are free to presume bad faith; good faith and bad faith are difficult to prove, and I will certainly not try to persuade you one way or the other about a group as diverse as 70-80 Americans. Only honest discussions with people who are pro-choice will do that. As I said, however, it would be disastrous for the pro-life movement as a whole to presume bad faith. People who are not of good will cannot be convinced to support abortion restrictions, which makes argument useless. Similarly people who are of good will do not like to be addressed as if they are not. We should nearly always presume good faith rather than bad when we are trying to extend legal protection to the unborn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m unimpressed with a strictly numbers approach to determining whether a group is of good will.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are free to presume bad faith; good faith and bad faith are difficult to prove, and I will certainly not try to persuade you one way or the other about a group as diverse as 70-80 Americans. Only honest discussions with people who are pro-choice will do that. As I said, however, it would be disastrous for the pro-life movement as a whole to presume bad faith. People who are not of good will cannot be convinced to support abortion restrictions, which makes argument useless. Similarly people who are of good will do not like to be addressed as if they are not. We should nearly always presume good faith rather than bad when we are trying to extend legal protection to the unborn.</p>
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		<title>By: TSO</title>
		<link>http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/11/06/douthat-puts-kmiec-in-his-place/#comment-10618</link>
		<dc:creator>TSO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m unimpressed with a strictly numbers approach to determining whether a group is of good will.  That&#039;s part of the reason we don&#039;t have a democracy but a representative form of gov&#039;t.  Should Germans during the Nazi regime be let off the hook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m unimpressed with a strictly numbers approach to determining whether a group is of good will.  That&#8217;s part of the reason we don&#8217;t have a democracy but a representative form of gov&#8217;t.  Should Germans during the Nazi regime be let off the hook?</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s a huge concession from Douthat isn’t it?&quot;

Not really, unless you think that 70%-80% of the country is not only wrong, but of bad will. Presuming bad faith on the part of anyone outside the pro-life movement is counter-productive to the goal of enacting abortion restrictions. If we are going to make progress, we have to recognize that many Americans are conflicted about abortion, and continue to work to persuade them about the importance of protecting human life in the womb.

Even limiting abortions to the first tri-mester (which would be supported by a majority of Americans) would reduce abortions by around 10% (saving roughly 100,000 lives a year). These types of modifications in the law are not the end goal, but they are worth aiming for - and in that process we need to presume good faith on the part of people in the mushy middle on abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s a huge concession from Douthat isn’t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really, unless you think that 70%-80% of the country is not only wrong, but of bad will. Presuming bad faith on the part of anyone outside the pro-life movement is counter-productive to the goal of enacting abortion restrictions. If we are going to make progress, we have to recognize that many Americans are conflicted about abortion, and continue to work to persuade them about the importance of protecting human life in the womb.</p>
<p>Even limiting abortions to the first tri-mester (which would be supported by a majority of Americans) would reduce abortions by around 10% (saving roughly 100,000 lives a year). These types of modifications in the law are not the end goal, but they are worth aiming for &#8211; and in that process we need to presume good faith on the part of people in the mushy middle on abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: TSO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TSO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see P. Diddy has beaten me to the punch here. The statement that leaps out is:

&lt;i&gt; &quot;I understand that the pro-life position on abortion does not command majority support in the United States and that people of good will can disagree on the subject.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a huge concession from Douthat isn&#039;t it? And yet we obviously look at Robert E. Lee and other southerners before the abolition of slavery as men of good will.  But right about now I don&#039;t think at pro-choicers that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see P. Diddy has beaten me to the punch here. The statement that leaps out is:</p>
<p><i> &#8220;I understand that the pro-life position on abortion does not command majority support in the United States and that people of good will can disagree on the subject.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a huge concession from Douthat isn&#8217;t it? And yet we obviously look at Robert E. Lee and other southerners before the abolition of slavery as men of good will.  But right about now I don&#8217;t think at pro-choicers that way.</p>
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